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How To Eat To Live And The Politics of Food
HOW TO EAT TO LIVE AND THE POLITICS OF FOOD
By Fahim A. Knight-EL
This article had been in the back of my mind for sometime relative to food and health and the politics that surrounds food. Some years ago, I was invited to Muhammad's Temple Number 25 in Newark, New Jersey, this was in the 1970s where I heard Minister James Shabazz teach from a book written by the Honorable Elijah Muhammad (1897-1975) titled, "How to Eat to Live" first volume published in 1967; it eventually became a two volume book that laid out the Nation of Islam and Black Muslim dietary laws. I found Minister Shabazz message that day to be very intriguing and enlightened, thus I purchased the book "How to Eat to Live" in 1973 and began reading. I am now recommending that you read this eye awakened book and you will find out why it is dietary important to put down them yams and collard greens (these are vegetables that are prohibited). Messenger Muhammad wrote about Allah who came in the person of Master Fard Muhammad and the type of foods and diet that he prescribed and ordained for the Asiatic Black man.
The health of this nation or lack of has to be viewed, from the highest levels of government and we can somewhat, attributed our dismal health disposition to corporate greed and neglect by the United States Government in its failure to demonstrate a level of genuine sincerity towards the well being of the American people outside of corporate interest. America does not need a health care bill, and if we do get one, it would not be worth a damn because health is big business and any health care bill that is passed, it going to be in the interest of the powerful medical lobbies and medical associations that they represent (whether it is President Obama's Health Bill or a Republican sponsored bill).
It has been intentional neglect which has led to our entire food supply being placed in danger--from our agriculture crops to our poultry farms and cattle farms have all been compromised, therefore, because of this, the health of our entire nation has been compromised. The government sanctions the use of poison pesticides and fertilizers in the name of efficient productivity--growing bigger and harvesting more agriculture commodities in shorter planting time frames (they have truly disturbed the balance of nature and has disturbed the the most perfect system that has been in existence for perhaps trillions of years, which is the ecological system). Man is in deed at war with himself and the planet.
The Center For Disease Control (CDC), United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), as well as other regulatory agencies already know that these agriculture pesticides (subtle germ, chemical and biological warfare) will have short and long term adverse health ramifications on the American people and planet (but what they do not tell you is, that it has always been about profit over health). Our water supply have also been compromised by poisonous pesticides and fertilizers run-off into our rivers, lakes and oceans.This evidence is translated into seeing higher incidents of all types of various cancers and diseases that are plaguing our nation and if the truth be told, it can be traced back to our food sources. The chickens are being injected with various growth hormones and enzymes (which is dangerous to humans that eat this poisonous meat) in which these chickens are caged raise (confined to tiny square foot areas) they do not have free range ability to roam and interact in a more natural environment and is confined to filthy controlled assembly line like operations. (Reference: Karl Weber; "Food Inc.: A Participant Guide: How Industrial Food is Making Us Sicker, Fatter, and Poorer-And What You Can Do About It").
These chickens are being forced fed food with little to no nutritional value, the only objective is to fatten them up for the consumer market and also these same chickens (hens) are being artificially inseminated to create mass egg production in order to meet the food supply demands (the United States has 300 million people, but consumes a disproportional amount of the world's resources). The cattle (beef) ranches and farms are no different (cows on steroids). This also makes our dairy unsafe for human consumption. Thus, we are eating these hormonal injected birds and steroid beef (this includes Angus beef as well); and we wonder, why our little girls are having their menses at 6 and 7 years old and is growing breast at that same age, as well as developing physically like teenagers twice their age. Also, child obesity is running rampant throughout America.
Mad Cow disease, Bird Flu and the latest being Swine Flu (so-called H1N1) are clear examples, that our animal food supply is contaminated and the above animals have served as host to viruses that are making people sick and have even been responsible for killing thousands who have fell victims to coming in contact by consuming poisonous poultry and livestock. The media talking heads and the U.S. Government tried to quickly discredited the rumors and allegations that the Swine Flu virus could be transposed to humans by eating pork (swine meat) and although the CIA and CDC possessed medical evidence from Mexico that people had died from eating contaminated (H1N1) pig meat and others got sick from contracting this virus that United States Government calls H1N1 (Swine Flu). They have kept this information away from the public because of the interest of huge pork growers; they do not want to scare you away from continuing to buying swine, it is to lucrative of a business to be interrupted by human sicknesses and deaths.
Muhammad did not forbade the consumption of beef and/or chicken, but he said we would be better off by not consuming any animal flesh. Messenger Muhammad forbade certain seafoods such as crabs, shrimps, lobsters , scallops, etc., he referred to them as the scavengers or bugs of the sea and he prohibited the eating of fish that weighed of over ten pounds (this included large tuna). The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said, we could cure ourselves by what we eat or not eat and he recommended that we eat one meal per day. He also recommended that we should fast at least three days at the end of each month. Moreover, Mr. Muhammad even went a step further, he stated that we should practice eating every three days because our stomachs and digestive tracks were not designed to constantly work trying to digest three meals per day and health wise this practice would keep us away from the doctor's office. (Reference: Norman W. Walker; "Colon Health: The Key to a Vibrant Life").
Many African American healers and holistic healers that came after the Honorable Elijah Muhammad such as Queen Afua who authored the book titled, "Heal Thyself: For Health and Longevity" and fail to mention "How to Eat to Live" by Elijah Muhammad, the man who was talking about health in the black community when it wasn't popular. Queen Afua has written an excellent book that supports vegan and vegetarian dieting, but it is remissly not to mention Elijah Muhammad as a forerunner in this discussion of health. I witness Mr. Muhammad clean-up and heal black people who became Muslims and followed his dietary plan and restriction. Some of these individuals came to Mr. Muhammad obese and ailing and within six months after following the program and the life giving teachings they became healed, it was though they appeared 10 years younger after practicing the dietary and Restrictive Laws of Islam. He taught us, of the value of the navy bean and the various use of this bean (get the book and read it for yourself).
There is another great book written by Dr. Llaila O. Afrika titled, "African Holistic Health" but, how can you write such an enlightened book and not mention messenger Muhammad and many of these individuals were directly and/or indirectly touched by his mission and work? I am on record of admitting that it was Mr. Muhammad's teachings that woke me up as a lost-found member and it was his teachings that gave me the intellect and wisdom to further connect the dots. The brothers in the Temple would often state "Make it plain Brother Minister" and that is exactly what I have tried to do in the writings of all my blogs.
This writer lives in the south and there is a huge hog farm in Virginia named Smithfield Farms (I often see their tractor trailers advertised with Smithfield Farms on I-40 East and West as I travel throughout North Carolina) and some of my readers may not know this, the hog selling business is over a billion dollar industry and it is vital to the U.S. economy. This is what Wikipedia stated about Smithfield farms: "Smithfield Foods, Inc. is the world’s largest pork producer and processor. Its headquarters are in Smithfield, Virginia, with operations in 26 states and 9 countries. The company raises 14 million hogs a year and processes 27 million. The company produced 5.9 billion pounds of pork and 1.4 billion pounds of fresh beef in 2006. Its plant in La Gloria, Mexico is suspected to be the source of the 2009 swine flu outbreak." (Reference: Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia; topic Smithfield Farms).
The United States Government consistently lies to the America people and they create medical epidemics and in some cases pandemics while simultaneously using fear and panic to enrich the pharmaceutical companies and medical profession by selling vaccines as so-called protection against viruses like H1N1 (this is a CIA initiated medical hoax). So like fools we run and get vaccinated and allow our children to be inoculated with experimental chemicals and drugs; thus, trusting the damn government and thirty years from now, they will come out and admit, that they injected us with a cancer containment. Perhaps you have never heard of the Tuskegee Experiment it is well documented in a book written by Harriet A. Washington titled: "Medical Apartheid: The Dark History of Medical Experimentation on Black Americans From Colonial Times to the Present). All this is about making money and nothing else. (Reference: Curtis Cost; "Vaccines Are Dangerous: A Warning to the Black Community").
The air we breathe have been compromised due government failure to regulate and impose meaningful OSHA and EPA standards in which to govern all the toxic waste, hazardous gases and fumes that are being released into the environment and is poisoning the oxygen that we are taking in and is is destroying the Ozone Layer (perhaps global warming will be the vehicle that destroys a rebellious humanity). But corporate interest gets a free pass to assist in killing the American people because we are viewed as being expendable and money making has been placed as a higher priority over the health and well being of the American people. When will we wake up from our slumber? Or will it be to late. I am willing to bet you, that the United States Secretary of Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius will not give you this type of information.
This writer in the late 1980s met an interesting gentlemen named Michael Joseph, who stated his ethnicity and nationality as being Lebanese (he looked more Cauasian than an Arab Semite). Brother Joseph and I became friends, and every time that he would come town from Miami, he would always stop by my house and the black book store in Durham. He was a very intelligent man who probably at some point in his life had decided to quit corporate America and found peace with himself by coming in harmony with his spirit-self and the universe. He had chosen to live a meager and simple life and he use to self promote and distribute a book that he had written by given small talks at African Centered book stores throughout the southeast and appearing on black talk radio. I learned so much from him about Homeopathic medicine and holistic treatments, as well as nutrition (western medicine has become for the most part, a system of pawns for the powerful pharmaceutical companies; this is the master they serve and often will not entertain Eastern healing procedures). (Reference: Kahlil Gibran; "The Prophet").
Western doctors have invested hundreds of thousands of dollars in acquring a medical education and has put a lot of time into becoming practitioners of their vocation and this alone makes them arrogant and unwilling to submit that in some instances Homeopathic medicine may be superior to western base medical treatment (well to be quite honest many of them get financial incentives from pharmaceutical companies to become your personal dope pusher). Natural healers go to the earth and uses herbs and roots for medicinal treatment and I can remember when segregation existed and African Americans could not seek treatment in a conventional hospital or clinic. Grandmother who were not medically trained at Stanford, Duke John Hopkins, and Harvard, but she could walk in the woods and retrieve a plant and administer treatment for what was ailing us. (Reference: Kevin Trudeau; "Natural Cures: They Don't Want You To Know About).
Michael Joseph wrote and published a book titled, "Animals in Digestive System: How to Avoid Disease Nutritionally" stated: "I blame the medical establishment for not being more forceful in their nutritional advice . Too many physicians themselves are addicted to meat to be entirely neutral in their recommending nutritional therapies when confronted by ailing trusting population. Physicians are not chemists or physiologists, and too influenced by salesmen from drug corporations, and by the American Medical Association, which is itself guided by drug manufacturers. The war on drugs is being fought against the wrong people. Isn't it paradoxical, that a government can be responsible for the drug addiction of its own people, then use the very excuse of that drug abuse to imprison thousands. The news media are understandably addicted to their sources of funds, which are the chemical and food producers, the drug and tobacco industries. To be truthful with the American people about the poisons being added to our foods, would seemingly put many of these producers out of business, or at least inspire them to change. Anyone who knows how the media is financed can easily understand this fact. Therefore, the media has been compromising itself when sharing information on health and nutrition, seemingly in the interest of earning a profit, rather than their real purpose of disseminating the truth. (Reference: Michael Joseph; "Animals in Digestive System: How to Avoid Disease Nutritionally"; pp. 120-121).
This alone makes the United States Government complicit by willfully and intentionally turning a blind eye while the health of the American people becomes compromised; this writer wonders if all of this is part of the grand conspiracy to commit control genocide with the objective of depopulating the earth. The Russian dissident Alexander Solzhenitsyn stated: "To do evil a human being must first of all believe that what he's doing is good. . .Ideology--that is what gives devildoing its long-sought justification and gives the evildoer the necessary steadfastness and determination. That is the social theory which helps to make his acts seem good instead of bad in his own and others' eyes, so that he won't hear reproaches and curses but will receive praise and honors." (Reference: Alexander Solzhenitsyn; quoted in the book "Emerging Viruses" by Leonard G. Horowitz).
Muhammad stated: "food keeps us here; it is essential that we eat food which gives and maintains life. That same food destroys life. Therefore, to keep this food from destroying our lives, we must protect our lives as well as we possibly can from the destruction of food. If we eat the proper food, and eat at the proper time, the food will keep us living a long, long time. Eating three and four times a day is to your stomach as dripping water is to a stone or iron. The dripping water will eventually wear the stone and iron away. But, just to look at the water, it does not appear powerful enough in its dripping to wear the stone and iron away. It is the same with food; we continuously put it into our stomachs to be digested and eventually it will destroy the stomach. If we let our stomachs rest a while and gain strength, they will last longer in doing a job of digesting food for us."
C. Leonard Vories in his pamphlet titled, "The Hog: Should It Be Used For Food" stated: "During recent years discoveries by the medical profession have brought to light why reasons why God, thousands of years ago, could have condemned the hog as unfit for food. The microscope has revealed that the flesh of hogs is often infested with trichina worms, which when taken into the human body multiply and begin to work their way through the entire system, even into the brain and heart. This condition is known as trichinosis. Thus, far there is no known cure for the disease, since nothing has been discovered which will the trichina without killing the person when once the worms have started working into the flesh." (Reference: C. Leonard Vories; "The Hog: Should It Be Used For Food" ; p. 15-16).
This writer has been in various food markets and there is nothing more disturbing than to see a senior citizen who looked to be in poor physical health and yet in their shopping cart, it is filled with food that has no nutritional value such as processed foods, swine (pork chops, pig knuckles, pig ears, fatback, etc.) and foods that are high in sodium (dead food with no life). Elijah Muhammad taught how during slavery the slave masters fed the blacks slaves the worst type of food. For example, pork-swine, but even the slave diet, they were giving the worst of the swine, the hog guts and intestines (chitterlings), fatback, salt pork, ham hocks, etc. Many poor people buy cheap processed foods because they see it as stretching the dollar and in their minds this is smart shopping because they have achieved their goal of quantity purchasing and at the same time, perhaps negated the most important aspect of food consumption, which is, what are the health and nutritional value of the food? (Reference: Dick Gregory's Natural Diet For Folks Who Eat: Cookin' With Mother Nature").
Often in poor and oppressed communities (which are ordinarily blacks and Latinos), it is difficult to find an abundance of fresh fruits and vegetables, the food vendors (and the alcohol beverage companies operate off this same premise) systematically supply these communities with the worst types of foods, which contributes to these communities having high incidents of Hypertension, Diabetes, Heart Disease, Colon Cancer, etc. It is a bit hypocritical for the United States Government to act like they are concern about the health and well being of our nation and yet the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) do very little to regulate the huge food conglomerates (they are off the chain). (Reference: Alfred Powell; "Message 'N' A Bottle").
Why don't U.S. Government take a proactive and preventive measures by outlawing foods that contributes to us having all types of chronic diseases? Not to consider doing this, will eventually further burden our health care system and cost the American taxpayers billions of dollars on the back-end (having to treat long term illnesses that with proper diet and nutrition could have been preventable). However, this writer is not oblivious to fact, that there is huge amounts of money to be made in dealing in death and destruction (sickness is a commodity)-- selling products that is sugar based (sugar is more addictive than cocaine and heroin); this keeps the dentist employed, and trans fats know wonder our children at five and six years of age are experiencing child obesity in which we are sentencing them to a life of potential heart disease and diabetes, as well as other health aliments. Just take a look around you in any urban cities across the United States and no doubt, you will see a number of fast food restaurants--McDonald's, Churches Chicken, Burger King, Wendys, Kentucky Fried Chicken, Bojangles, Chinese Restaurants, etc (they are dealing death over the lunch counters). Parents are serving their children fast foods two and three times per day and its these habits that are contributing to the poor health of our children. Their life expectancy will be even shorter than the prior five generations unless we change personal course and our government course.
My mother use to cook and I grew up eating home cook meals, but most younger mothers in America today do not know how to cook and rely on eating out and fail to realize all the negative benefits in putting your mouths in someone else kitchen. Autism, Down Syndrome and hyperactivity in children can be traced to diet and this is not meant to overlook some of the genetic factors. Fast foods factors into 90% of the health issues plaguing children. Think about this, just 35 years ago children under 10 having hypertension and Diabetes were unheard of and it is insane not look at what they are eating today in comparison to yesterday.
Muhammad further stated: " IF THE MEDICAL DOCTORS and the theologian teachers and scientists of chemicals,are indulging and are not successful expanding their own lives in what they are offering to us to eat and drink, then why should we follow their way of life? The chemical doctors go to the earth to get chemicals to heal themselves and us. These chemicals soon will destroy both. And, their bodies were not made to be supported by chemicals for health and longevity. The fact is the body of man was not to be drugged." (Reference: Elijah Muhammad; "How To Eat To Live" Book # 2 Chapter 47 online PDF version).
I am going to digress a bit by sharing some of my personal experiences, which in my opinion, will prove to be relevant to the overall objective and intent of this article. This writer got one of his first real lessons in the politics of food over fifteen years ago; I was once an international trader who was involved in importing and exporting various trade commodities, which included food. The company was named Progressive International Trading Company, Inc. and it was headed by a dear friend and CEO Daniel Brown out of Baltimore, Maryland. But who taught us the business was two con men out of Budapest, Hungry who owned a trading company in Budapest named East-West Channel.
These Hungarians understood the European import and export markets better than anyone that we had ever done business with. The first thing you learn in the food commodity business, is how political and competitive the food industry is and you also learn, who controls the markets; we learned very quickly that there were powerful trading companies who functioned as sovereign corporate governments that controlled all levels of the import/export international networks from finance too distribution--Archer Daniels Midland (ADM), ConAgra, and Cargill (they have a monopoly on the food industry) controls huge international markets and they determine who eats globally. No, small trader can penetrate the global food markets without brokering deals with these large powerful trading companies. They set the United States international trade policy and dictate to the U.S. food regulatory agencies of how stiff or how lax government intervention is going to be relative to our food sources.
These companies have controlling interest in banks (they controlled the issuing of financial instruments such as Letters of Credit), farms including coops, freight forwarding companies, freight insurance companies and they control embassies and trade ambassadors, etc. They also control many smaller food subsidiaries in the United States and around the world in which they will not even entertain an international trade proposal of huge tonnage without blocking you until they are able to steal your potential customer. Perhaps one of the most value lessons that I learned came by way of a commodity deal that we were trying close with selling some corn to one of the Eastern European nations and their government had strict stipulations that no genetically modified or genetic alter food was allowable into their country because they were unsure of how this genetic modified foods would impact the future health of their nation. Just look at the United States and there is plenty of proof of how genetic modified food is contributing to us having a wide range of health issues that are plaguing this nation. We are what we eat, and we can not trust anything that comes out of the laboratory of the wickedly wise. You must become the scientist in your kitchen. Thank you Mr. Muhammad for taking my wife through the Muslim Girl Training and General Civilization Class (MGT--GCC).
Fahim A. Knight-EL Chief Researcher for KEEPING IT REAL THINK TANK located in Durham, NC; our mission is to inform African Americans and all people of goodwill, of the pending dangers that lie ahead; as well as decode the symbolism and reinterpreted the hidden meanings behind those who operate as invisible forces, but covertly rules the world. We are of the belief that an enlightened world will be better prepared to throw off the shackles of ignorance and not be willing participants for the slaughter. Our MOTTO is speaking truth to power.
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Kaafar Knight, you are not a Muslim
Kaafar Knight, you are not a Muslim, you have probably not even been raised up in any Masonic degrees, though you try to pass off this gobbledygook gibberish as some sort of "secret knowledge" that only "initiates" are aware of.
Fart was a fake, Easy-E was a dork, both are burning in Jahanam (translation for people like Kaffar Knight who do not understand Arabic at all: Hell), and so shall you for spreading this Nation of Kufr bullshit.
Fahim
What is this EL at the end of your name? You don't think you are some kind of deity, do you?
Ignorant Zealot
Joeblow, you sound like a crazy ignorant Zealot and is probably some cyberspace agent provocateur. I will always have much more respect for the work and legacy of the Honorable Elijah Muhammad than any other Islamic leader in history.
His mission was to redeemed Africans in the U.S. who were made blind, deaf ,and dumb to the knowledge of self by a system of white supremacy.
Many African Americans in the United States received Mr. Muhammad as a leader who fought to gain African Americans freedom, justice and equality.
I have nothing but love for the Islam that he taught, which exposed the Arab imposters who claimed to be the original people of the Arabian Peninsula.
The Islam that you follow, we will never follow the Shia or the Sunni sects because your belief and tenets have been co-opted by the un-Islamic Wahhabis; these filthy bastards are your leaders in which they are negatively guiding Islam on different levels and leading them more towards Satan's world.
Yet, many of them eat pork, gamble, drink alcohol, party and chase white women all around London, Paris, Rome, Cyprus, etc (indulging in all types of un-Islamic conduct and behavior).
Many of the top level Suad family are high degree Freemasons (some are honorary members in the Scottish Rite and York Rite Orders, but others traveled all way to the United Supreme Council and received their 33rd degree) themselves and are covert agents in the Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderberger and the Trilateral Commission (these groups represent the highest orders of what you deem as "secret societies").
Moreover, the Islamic hierarchy and Elitist even have membership in the Club of Rome and the House of Rothschild.
Your slave masters out of Mecca and Medina have always demonstrated one of the biggest reactionary contradictions, which was their diplomatic relationship with whom Imam Ayatollah Khomeini called the "Great Satan" United States of America (the gatekeepers of the Zionist State of Israel).
Now, reason with me, America is the number one ally of the Zionist State of Israel and the seat of Islam is selling untold oil to the United States (it does not take rocket science to figure this out). But those who might not know, Saudi Arabia covertly sells oil directly to the Zionist State, but always give the dumbfound Muslim have-nots the impression that they have an adverse relations with the Zionist Israel. Really!!!
Yes, you are following some real hypocritical Kaafirs who calls themselves the gate keepers of the Kaaba.
No, Arab or foreign Muslim is in a moral position to judge the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. Just take a second and objectively use your critical thinking tools for a moment and analyze the state of Islam (non-emotionally).
There are internal religious wars and theological conflicts going on between Shia versus Sunni (where did these artificial labels come from?). Muslims killing Muslims, this should be your concern, finding ways to alleviate Muslim suffering at the hands of other Muslims.
Islam claims to be a religion peace and submission, but it is difficult to make that case when you observe the international affairs of Islam and Muslims.
They have truly deviated from the Qur'an and the Sunna. The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) led by example and he was given the attribute El-Amin (the trustworthy one). Muhammad(pbuh) warned us that three generations after him will no longer be of him.
Stay Awake Until We Meet Again,
Fahim A. Knight-EL
You are wasting your time, Larry
Your ethnocentric bullshit, masonic leanings and made-up think-tank won't fly here.
I'll ask you again as you seem to have avoided answering before. What is the EL at the end of your name?
Kaafar Knight writes so much, but says so little
Kaafar Knight writes so much, but says so little. Since you never answer any questions, then I shall take the opportunity to make fun of your zero hero Da Fartman:
1. He was a white dude (real name Wallace Dodd) and went to San Quentin Federal Penitentiary on a charge of peddling dope.
2. Fart forced all the losers around him to pay him money to learn about the idiotic Nation of Kufr nonsense.
3. Eazy-E killed Fart and later on molested tons of female fake Muslims around him and got them pregnant.
More From Ignorant Zealot Joeblow
Ignorant Zealot Joeblow. Yes, I wrote a lot and refuted and deconstructed every unintelligent comment you made relative the Honorable Elijah Muhammad and the Nation of Islam.
I gave you a brief examination of the state of international Islam in my original response, which demonstrates the hypocrisy.
Your above comments are nothing but recycled Zionist propaganda that were first published in U.S. newspapers in the 1950s relative to W.D. Fard Muhammad.
The Anti Defamation League has being using that tactic for over 40 years and it is laughable when I hear and read ignorant Zealots like yourself use that same argument.
You know nothing about the Black Muslim movement and their plight other than what you have read on Internet.
Thus, as I write this notation many are convened in Chicago at the United Center this weekend, which to celebrate 80 years of organizational existences (Nation of Islam in spite this type criticism is here to stay).
I have personally met Muslims who in the 1930s who had met W.D. Fard Muhammad and converted to Islam in Detroit under W.D. Fard Muhammad's leadership. I also met one of Elijah Muhammad's brothers named John Muhammad and too personally met Fard Muhammad.
Their personal testimonies were very different than what you and the Zionist would like for us to believe. I personally found their testimonies to be credible.
Where is the proof of the assertions that you make and please do not quote the Internet?
No, Sunni or Shia group saw fit to come to North America to bring Islam to the black man and black woman other than the Ahmadiyyas (followers of Gulam Ahmed).
The Ahmadiyyas out of Pakistan were the first foreign Muslim organization who came to America, perhaps in the late 1800s and early 1900s that tried to introduce Islam to the original people of the earth. We will always consider the Ahmadiyyas as friends to our plight in the United States.
Thus, after their failed mission; it was Prophet Noble Drew Ali in 1913 who established the Moorish Science Temple of American for the purpose of proselytizing Islam.
This organization actually became the first formalized Islamic organization in the United States, which predated the Nation of Islam.
Now, you better go ahead and keep following that ritualistic idolatry worship you practice--dying to kiss a black stone (idol worship) and circumambulation of the Kaaba (what does the ritual really mean?).
May be I will give you the origin of these PAGAN practices and where it all originated from.
You better stay in your league because you do not know enough to debate me on the Nation of Islam. You damn ignorant Zealot.
Stay Awake Until We Meet Again,
Fahim A. Knight-EL
Larry AKA Kaafar Knight
It does not matter whether or not they the Freemasonic Nation of Kufr considers themselves Muslims, because they (like you, Larry) openly break the fundemental principle of TAWHID. Since you are obviously not a Muslim, here is a simple definition, compare it to what Fart and Eazy-E used to spew:
http://www.muhajabah.com/tawhid.htm
An Introduction to Islamic Monotheism
There are two Arabic words that are important to know for a discussion of Islamic monotheism. These are tawhid and shirk. Tawhid means "declaring God one", while shirk means "associating partners with God". Thus tawhid is monotheism while shirk is polytheism or idolatry.
Zealot Joeblow and Fanaticism
Now, the ignorant Joeblow has given me a new name "Larry", where in the hell is this name coming from? (lol).
You as a Muslim, are wearing the Kaafir name of Joe blow. Thus, did not your God Allah and Prophet Muhammad Ibn Abdullah (pbuh) prescribed for you 99 holy names and attributes. You ignorant Zealot, are full of contradictions.
Now I guess you are ready to imposed Sharia against me for disagreeing with you ignorant perspective against the Nation of Islam and the Honorable Elijah Muhammad.
I have disproved and discredited every point that you have made and now your last resort or defense is to quote Tawhid; you need to quote Tawhid to them damn hypocritical Wahhabis in Mecca whom you follow; they are ones who have deviated from Thawed.
I do not think the Shia and Sunni sects can agree on Tawhid. (here is clear point: associating God with inanimate object--willing to die just to kiss and touch a black stone in Kaaba). Some pushing the 12th Imam theory so-called associated with Ali Ibn Talib and others are pushing the Caliphate theory. This has led to religious wars. The Zionist do not have to fire one shot; you fools are killing each other in the name of who is practicing the correct version of Islam. Sheer foolishness.
I guess the next thing you would like to do is, perhaps strap yourself with some bombs and explosives because someone has dared to disagree with your shallow views of theocracy.
Perhaps you have not noticed, you are arguing religion and I am arguing the right to tolerance and the right to free thinking.
I think the world and our society is in the political and social condition because religious of fanaticism and fundamentalism; in particular that what is being evoke by Muslim fanatics.
I personally have no respect for the religion you follow, which is nothing, but a 1,400 year old cult and ordained magic.
Stay Awake Until We Meet Again,
Fahim A. Knight-EL
Your use of hackneyed stereotypes...
... is very telling indeed. As for your reference to "cult and ordained magic", I can't help but chuckle when I remember that you are a mason - believing not only in "cult and ordained magic" but also that that this "cult and ordained magic" has to be kept from non-initiates.
By the way, how come a learned gentleman like you has such consistently funky punctuation? You claim to be a professor but you write like an underachieving undergraduate. Didn't you attend Written English 101 at Lamar?
Eurocentrism and White Supremacy
Sullivan, perhaps you should give your English lesson to that ignorant zealot buddy of yours, Joeblow (perhaps you are overlooking his poor English language skills).
I told you two years ago, that we as a colonized and former enslaved people do not give a damn about the former slave master's language and tongue (this includes every aspect of his culture). Perhaps you have forgotten that discussion. Moreover, is that the best argument you can make relative to this thread.
I guess you perceive the English language as superior to other cultures and this is the type of Eurocentrism and ethnocentrism that is in conflict with the darker people of the planet.
But it takes a white supremacist, Irish man, as yourself to make those type of comments relative to us having to master the British language.
No, I am not feeding into stereotypes, but I am challenging religious fanaticism and fundamentalism. The ignorant Zealot Joeblow does not have the authority to determine who should be declared a Muslim or not.
I believe that Elijah Muhammad and the Nation of Islam possessed every right to practice Islam according to their interpretation.
I live in the United States where we enjoy First Amendment Rights (thank God for the U.S. Constitution because by now under Sharia Law they would have chopped my head off by now)--Freedom of speech and religion (although Church and State are separate).
It becomes dangerous when individuals and/or groups take upon themselves to determine what practices or religions are going to be acceptable--this will eventually compromise the basic rights of freedoms and will lead to a deterioration of those freedoms.
This is the type of reasoning, sentiments and backwards thinking that have partially brought us to this age of unwarranted fanaticism and unchecked fundamentalism.
I believe in tolerance and humanity having the right to disagree with the popular version of the truth. Christian, Jews and Muslims are all guilty throughout history of imposing their will on those who may have disagreed with their particular church doctrines.
The ignorant Zealot is arguing religious fundamentalism; I am arguing tolerance. I do think humanity can be better served by this position than by those advocating the tyrannical religious views as expressed by the Zealot Joeblow (this will lead to despotism).
I will debate that Zealot as long as he wants to debate. He does not know enough about Islam to even put forward a good argument.
The Zealot is definitely ignorant about the history and theology of the Nation of Islam.
Stay Awake Until We Meet Again,
Fahim A. Knight-EL
Why you bothered writing about...
Eurocentrism and White Supremacy is beyond me. No form of supremacist ideology is welcome on this site. As for the Eurocentrism, I personally have no time for any type of ethnic navel-gazing.
My comments regarding your standard of English have nothing to do with your "race" and everything to do with the fact that you claim to be a professor in a country where English is the major spoken language. Academics whose mother tongue is not English are expected to be able to read and write well in English as it is the de-facto common language for academics. In truth you are not an academic and your think tank is nothing but a fiction that exists in your own head. Joe Blow doesn't claim to be a professor, and resides in a country where English is not the primary language. Hopefully that distinction is not lost on you.
Your twisted message is not welcome here, Larry.
Kaafir Knight,your real name is Larry D Knight, grow up already.
Kaafir Knight, your real name is Larry D Knight, grow up already. I found your Satanic Voodoo house of worship Larry 'Fahim', Knight http://doriclodge28.org/membership.htm . if you keep denying it, LARRY, then I shall continue to post more information about you.
Look, you non-Muslim Freemason, nobody here believes you or your poor-written mishmashed scribblings, and frankly, they are extremely boring on top of being idiotic.
Leave WUFYS alone or I will hunt you down on the Internet and start harassing you in your favorite abodes!
stay awake until ......
the masonic adobe will drop on U!!
Igorant Zealot Joe Blow Job
Now, this ignorant fanatical Zealot could not defend his Islam; so now he has become an investigative CSI reporter. You are laughable.
I do like that picture, who in the hell is "Larry D. Knight" (lol)? You are really funny. Is that fat guy in the picture "Larry D. Knight". I showed that one to my daughter and we both bust out laughing. Thanks for the new name. Do me a favor just add "Dr. Larry D. Knight" (lol).
I am having fun with your ignorant Islamic Zealot behind. I guess since you can not argue Islam you are try your hand in Investigative reporting.
I do know Chris Hansen on MNBC Dateline, I think the network could appreciate your skills. You are nothing but an agent provocateur. Let's get back to debating Islam.
Okay Joeblow job. It is time for you go make Salat and pray to that mystery God that does not exist.
Hint, I do not believe in religious "spookism" and to be a Freemasonry you have to believe in a Supreme Being. I guess I would be disqualified from being in both of those organizations; that is your hint for the day.
Stay Awake Until We Meet Again,
Fahim A. Knight-EL
Come on Sullivan The Irish Jew
These above statement represents the epitome of white supremacy. You as an Irish Jew should no better. Thus, to hail the English language is to reaffirm the slaughter, thievery and desecration of the indigenous peoples cultures and traditions (you know that North America was stolen from the Native Americans who were here 16, 000 years before the Europeans arrived from the hills and caves side of Europe). For example, English became the state accepted language because it represents the massacring of the Native Americans and every place this devil has gone he has brought death and destruction. We can look at Papua New Guinea, Australia, and New Zealand (which were original people's lands) and you can see how devastating his history was to impose standard "English" as the so-called state language; whatever the hell standard "English" means.
Your statements covertly justifies the British criminal historical behavior and I guess you are saying, the white man had a divine right to impose his culture on other nations (in particular non-white people) and all those people and nations had an equally divine responsibility to have accepted and followed his onslaught. Your statement is Eurocentrism and white supremacy at its best and I caution you for displaying this type of pseudo intellectualism of having a reckless disregard for the historical damage these Robber Barons have caused on humanity. Now, I guess if someone disagrees and confront you religious zealots and white supremacist; they are no longer are welcomed on the forum. You sound like a little spoiled white child.
Stay Awake Until We Meet Again,
Fahim A. Knight-EL
Oh what a Knight!
"These above statement". Grade schoolers would conjure up better grammar than that, and you claim to be a professor? As for the "Irish Jew" bit, is that the best you can do? That's the way to go, Larry! Don't refute my calling you on your bullshit. Just call me names. How very "academic" of you.
I don't care who was where thousands of years before whom. It matters little to me. I also didn't establish English as the lingua-franca for the academic world, but I do know it is, and I know that your standard of English isn't at all reminiscent of someone from academia, as you claim to be. You can continue to blame me for all the ills (perceived and real) in your world, but that doesn't make me responsible for them. I, for instance, didn't make up the bullshit that you were posting while bringing a group of students around Ghana when in fact you were back in North Carolina. You did that all by your lonesome.
Show me where I said that! What I said is that you claim to be an academic, but you evidence a level of English (the standard language of academia) that tells another story entirely. I also think your posts here are long, turgid, poorly constructed and pompous, but that's just my opinion.
Not at all, Larry. My statement is the academic world as it is, and demonstrates how you, delusions and all, could not possibly be what you claim to be. And that bothers you, doesn't it? Your self-made illusions are being shattered!
Who the heck are you to caution me? To me, you are just another clueless moron who thinks that freemasonry is "just swell".
You are welcome to post here, Larry, but judging by your past performance, your posts will always be met with the ridicule they deserve.
Loser Larry Knight
Since you did not pay heed, now, I have to teach your stupid Satanic Freemasonic butt a lesson. Here is the first of the many places that I shall soon register at and start kicking your ass:
http://templedc.com/phpBB3/index.php
Joe Blow
There's no need for this. Fahim's nonsense can be easily countered without resorting to threats!
Come on Joe Blow Job
The religious zealot Joe Blow Job sounds really emotional and is even using profanity in violation of his Islamic religious principles of morality.
I can giving you 50 more blogs and Internet sites that I am affiliated, if you would like to have them Sunni Blow Joe Job. You are nothing but a cyberspace agent provocateur (might even be an invisible Zionist).
I know one thing for sure, your knowledge of Islam is weak and you better call your Wahhabi inspired Imam and let me debate him because your knowledge of religion is shallow at best. Now, it is time for the noon Salat in your part of the world; go pray and tell me what instructions that mystery god has given you. Okay Joe Blow Job.
Lastky, you can kiss where the sun doesn't shine and right a way, how much do you charge your clients for one of those famous Joe Blow Jobs (lol)?
Stay Awake Until We Meet Again,
Fahim A. Knight-EL
More Eurocentrism From The Irish Jew Sullivan
More from the Irish Jew Sullivan . No, you are wrong again Sullivan the Jew. You are a deceitful little Jew of Irish descent (you have deceived all this anti-Zionist on the Wakeupfromyourslumber site, but I know your history); what is the other part of your name Stein Berg Sullivan.
European Colonialism is something that did not happen thousands of years ago, as you maintained. How about around the middle 1400s in which your inference again tries to dismissed the white supremacist culprits who forced that slave making Christianity on the darker people of the plant and imposed their English language and culture on every society they came in contact with (perhaps this was approximately 600 to 700 years ago. I know you can count).
What part of that historical equation you do not understand. The Nubians of Kemet and Moors of North Africa introduced the white man to language and culture. Moreover, Stein Berg Sullivan, it was my ancient ancestors that brought the Caucasian out of the hills and cave sides west Asia (Europe) and taught him civilization.
Yes, Mr.Stein Berg Sullivan you are welcomed to sit in, in one of my on line courses and I promise not to charge you (lol).
But once again your remarks are the epitome of Eurocentrism and White Supremacy Mr. Stein Berg Sullivan.
Now, for me and blog being met with opposition; guess what I am the right man to take on all opposition. I write to create opposition. Thus, send me your best devil minds; however, I must say you still possessed enough intestinal fortitude not to throw me off site because I disagreed with that Islamic fanatic and zealot Joe Blow Job and of course with you Stein Berg Sullivan.
Stay Awake Until We Meet Again,
Fahim A. Knight-EL
Bring on the Knight
You know my history... thanks for the laugh... you get better at the comedy every day! Seriously though, if it proves impossible for you to discuss without repeated name-calling then perhaps it is time for you to choose some other site to host your ethno-centric, masonic garbage.
I didn't make any such claim. Post a link to where I made this claim or retract this idiotic remark.
After several attempts, I have finally parsed the above sentence. Your notion that "whitey" is the perennial abuser and that your people are the eternal victim is both nonsense and intrinsically racist. I can't say for certain what happened way back then, nor do I hold any responsibility for it. What happened in the past isn't quite as monochrome as you seem to think.
Equation? History is not a science. It can not be the subject of equations. History is a subjective notion of the past and can't be neatly slotted into the variables of an equation.
According to your fundamentally racist Nation of Islam philosophy. The evidence of the real world suggests that culture evolved in a far more sporadic way. As for language, Sumerian and Sanskrit are generally considered to be the earliest known languages.
Thanks for giving me another belly laugh. This is yet more deluded and racist Nation of Islam output unsupported by real-world evidence.
Larry, you are not a teacher let alone a professor. Even if you were, I wouldn't take one of your courses if you paid me. I expect those who teach to be more capable of presenting their thoughts and engaging the thought processes of others. Anyway, the lie that you are a professor has already been well and truly put to bed. If you could at least be honest about that much....
Not at all, Larry. I don't like centrism, no matter what form it takes. I object to white supremacism. I find it utterly objectionable and won't tolerate it here. I also object to black supremacism. I find it equally objectionable and won't tolerate it here.
What a pity you can't learn to write in order to be understood.
You won't be thrown off this site unless you continue with your juvenile insults. Your objecting to or arguing against what others write is not an issue.
Okay Sullivan Lets Clear Some Things Up
Okay Sullivan, let's clear some matters up. Joeblow started calling me out of name and insulting with the name "Larry" which is not my name and I only asked him initially, where in the hell did he get that name from? Remember he initiated the insults and I was only responded to his insults. I can argue fair and I have always argued fair and I will stay within the rules of Wakeupfromyourslumber website. His last post was a soft threat, but nevertheless a threat and he was a bit emotional to say the least. I would not have started calling him and/or you out of your cyberspace handles, if you all were not insulting me. Yes, I passionately disagreed with Joeblow and his views of the Nation of Islam and Elijah Muhammad. I felt initially it was going to be a lively and spirited debate of Sunni Islam versus the Black Muslim version of Islam. I have had numerous debates with Sunni Muslims in cyberspace and in person and I intellectually enjoy taking them to task. I do think we could have a debate without the insults and name calling. I would love to continue the debate; without the threat of being barred for defending myself.
Stay Awake Until We Meet Again,
Fahim A. Knight-EL
Stay Awake Until We Meet Again,
Fahim A. Knight-EL
You have not ...
...been threatened with being barred for defending yourself. If you think that flinging about childish insults is defending yourself then think again. By the way, I've commented in public and in private on Joe Blow's last comment, so you needn't worry yourself about that.
Lying Loser Larry Knight
You are a fucking Masonic faggot who could not stop lying to save his own shitty life. You have been caught making shit for years, that is why no one belives a fucking word you say. I am being nice to you now, you will find out later at the other 50 sites you post at how mean I really am.
1. You real name is Larry D Knight and 49 years-old.
2. You moved from Newark, NJ to Durham, NC.
3. You a Freemason at this lodge. http://doriclodge28.org/membership.htm
4. You are not a Muslim, rather a sad, queer, pathetic, mentally-ill Satanic Voodoo Monkey dumbass.
Joe Blow...
...you are taking this way beyond the pale. Tone it down or take it elsewhere!
Exhale and Take Deep Breathe
I will not dignify most of Joeblow's comments. These comments are outside of the realm of debating Islam and it represents how far he has gotten away from the intent of thread. He has given me a new name (Muhammad Ali once beat the hell out Sonny Liston for calling him by the white man's name), (lol) and I guess as supposed to debating the thread he delved into a CSI reporting disposition, perhaps this represented his inability to put forth an empirical religious argument. If you would like to continue the debate with less profanity and vitriol language and emotion; I then remain open to further discussion. Although, the thread had less to do with religion (Islam) and had more to do with the politics of food. But I was open to a debate on Islam and quite honestly I have had a problem with organized religion for a very long time; thus mainly for the very reason seen in this discussion. I have been warned by one of the moderators and he has been warned by the moderator. So I will not say on this public forum what I really would like to say to him. Like Muhammad Ali, a left hook to the head and down go Listen. Ali the champ yelled out to the this Uncle Tom Negro, what's man name?
Stay Awake Until We Meet Again,
Fahim A. Knight-EL