Can You Say DE-FLATION?
I can! and so can the housing market!
Let me remind you WHY housing prices are so darn high to begin with!
REALITY can only be masked for so long before it sears through the ILLUSION.
I can! and so can the housing market!
I would choose a DRAFT.
STEP 1: CONTROL the money supply;
How much money is your time worth?
"The financial markets are humming and life is good."
STEP 1: wrest control of the money supply from the selfish greedy lunatics that are currently at the helm
STEP 2: establish a decentralized, interest-free, nonprofit banking system.
STEP 3: channel ALL our wealth into rebuilding our lives and communities, WITHOUT diverting massive amounts through interest to those not entitled to it.
Richard Sauder's reaction to the announcement of GM's layoffs is almost identical to my own. I have emphasized in bold italics the portions that are particularly important.
"The news of the 30,000 jobs that General Motors recently announced it plans to cut caught my attention like a searing brand plunged deep into my mind."
"[T}he United States ... is rapidly deindustrializing, in large degree as a consequence of ... so-called Free Trade agreements ... such as NAFTA, CAFTA and the WTO which have made capital and entire industries very portable internationally, to the considerable detriment of workers at home and abroad."
"[S]ociopaths are running most of the major governments of the world, and most of the major industries and financial institutions, and sociopaths are not much interested in mutual uplift and global benefit for the great bulk of the human race . . . [they] are primarily interested in war, plunder, destruction, cruel domination, violent subjugation, and ruthless social control."
"Essentially, the entire nation is in hock. We've been pawned."
"We are already exporting astronomical quantities of American currency, and millions of jobs to go with the big bucks. The printing presses are running madly 24/7 the year around. The American government, allied with the high finance sector of the economy, has conspired to sell us out to the highest bidders"
"[T]he United States is positively awash in a tsunami of imported merchandise...the captains of American industry destroy the country from within, ransacking the economy, plundering entire industries and communities as they loot the productive base of the country for their own personal enrichment, without the slightest thought for the well-being of anyone else at all. . . the psychopaths and sociopaths in the ... government and in high finance ... liquidate the country from under our feet..."
"Their behavior is like that of madmen ... who heat the house in the cruel depths of a bone-chilling ... winter by stripping the insulation out of the walls and using it to stoke the furnace! As the flames leap higher they strip the shingles and plywood off the roof and fling them into the furnace!! ... they fling back the blankets ... rip the paneling off of the walls, tear up the floor boards and take an axe to the furniture and feed it all to the devouring flames in the furnace."
They belittled [Ross Perot's] warning that the "sucking sound" they were about to hear would be the sound of ... capital and jobs [being] leached out of the American economy...but [they] didn't like him ... so they tossed him aside. So much to plunder; so much to loot -- and so little time!!
"The American economy, like Elvis, has left the building...the bleeding of jobs, money and industries just goes on and on. We are living in a country in steep and rapid decline.I rest my case. We can't both be wrong in our assessment of what's happening. But, I would argue that underneath the surface of those trade agreements fractional reserve financing at INTEREST is primarily to blame for the multi-national economic devastation that we are witnessing today, along with a number of corrupt greedy dictators willing to sell their people for a paltry price.
I am taking a brief hiatus to prepare for final exams. In all likelihood, I will not be posting new entries until the end of December (unless I positively can't resist).
In a democratic republic that proclaims that all men are created equal the monetary system must accord with this proclamation.
MONEY is a uniform standard of exchange that has value only insofar as it is accepted by enough people such that it can effectively serve its purpose--to facilitate exchange of people's labor and the fruits of people's labor.
No Thanks to Thanksgiving is an excellent article by Robert Jensen!
" A Revolution is coming- a revolution which will be peaceful if we are wise enough: compassionate if we care enough ; successful if we are fortunate enough- but a revolution is coming whether we will it or not. We can affect it's character, we cannot alter it's inevitability."--JFK 1963
then you're talking to the wrong people.
This is true, to a degree.
"Equality of talents, of education, or of wealth can not be produced by human institutions. In the full enjoyment of the gifts of Heaven and the fruits of superior industry, economy, and virtue, every man is equally entitled to protection by law;..."
"...but when the laws undertake to add to these natural and just advantages artificial distinctions, to grant titles, gratuities, and exclusive privileges, to make the rich richer and the potent more powerful, the humble members of society the farmers, mechanics, and laborers who have neither the time nor the means of securing like favors to themselves, have a right to complain of the injustice of their Government..."
"There are no necessary evils in government. Its evils exist only in its abuses. If it would confine itself to equal protection, and, as Heaven does its rains, shower its favors alike on the high and the low, the rich and the poor, it would be an unqualified blessing. In the act before me there seems to be a wide and unnecessary departure from these just principles.
It looks like its official. My comments have been BLOCKED from the Mises Economics Blog!
As glorious as a return to hard currency would be for libertarians, the costs of producing and handling that money would detract from its value to the economy as a whole as the energies and resources expended in maintaining the curreny might be better used elsewhere in the economy. That is one of the reasons it was abandoned, in the first place.
In contrast, in an interest-free economy, the barriers created by hard currency against the abuses of printing too much of it would not be as sorely needed as it is in today's interest-ridden economy. A uniform paper money could be printed as needed in each state at the local level, where abuses can be more easily contained, and money production in all the states can be coordinated and adjusted at the federal level to ensure balanced economic growth. Because money is interest-free, accounting and economic analysis is much simpler than if it was encumbered with interest.
Now, I'm not an economist. But, it seems to me that the wild fluctuations in the value of our money throughout our nation's history is not just the result of printing too much of it, but also the consequence of the unbridled use of interest at every turn.
You can't fight human nature. If you try, you're a fool.
You DO NOT give one entity control of the money supply;Selfish people do not control their own greed. It is either contained, OR it will consume all else.
allow it to corrupt that supply with an accounting fraud called interest; and
then expect it to control itself!
Everything is relative.
Who gives a hoot?!!
Below is an email correspondence between me and Bill Scheurer, who's running for Congress and who pledges to fight against debt.
To illustrate my point about interest with figures that are closer to home, this link shows state and city break downs of how your federal tax dollars are spent.
America's heartland is being abandoned.
These people are ruthless!
GM plans to announce sweeping job cuts and plant closures.
"GM's previously announced plan, to slash up to 25,000 jobs over three years, is likely to accelerate in talks with the United Auto Workers, analysts say, so GM can shutter plants before GM's national union contract expires in 2007."
"There is absolutely no plan, strategy or intention for GM to file for bankruptcy," Rick Wagoner, Chairman of GM.
"I did not have sexual relations with that woman." Bill Clinton, President of the United States.
Ford intends to cut 4000 white-collar jobs in 2006.
GM's at the brink;
Disney's consumer profits are sluggish;
the Tribune and others are looking to cut costs;
veterans can't find work;
Wallace & Gromit are just not performing stateside.
Heck, even the government has to cut costs!
...keep the change. :)
"Why don't you just come right out and say to which particular ideology you subscribe to... Socialist? Anarchy? Anarcho-Capitalist? Communist?"
Asking why would people lend their money if they could not charge interest is like looking at a defenseless, skinny donkey tied up to a rickety old wagon and asking why would his big fat nasty owner feed him if he doesn't pull the wagon!
Thanks goes to Bill whose comment to credit ratings evoked in me a new mental picture of interest.
"I simply don't follow the logic behind your argument...How would a non-interest based economy work? If the banks are unwilling to asses interest charges, then where is the incentive to lend the money - through equity participation?
How long do you think it would take for the money supply to dry up if each lender had to take an equity stake in your car or home, for example. Their capital would be indefinitely tied up.
Where does the new liquidity come from? Obviously not you or me as what incentive would we have to put money in the bank if they are not paying us interest to do so.
Where do the risk averse investors turn? What about the elderly and retirees who feel comfortable with CD, money market and Treasury returns? The democratic platform against private social security accounts runs contrary to your very argument as they claim that equity participation is much too risky..."
Thanks, Bill, for your thoughtful comment.
Your concerns are valid. Circulation is the whole point of introducing currency into an economy.
"Where is the incentive to lend the money?" The only wholesome place it can be, from the profits of equity investing.
"How long...would [it] take for the money supply to dry up if each lender had to take an equity stake in your car or home... Their capital would be indefinitely tied up." By definition, capital is invariably "tied up" once it’s invested in an asset like a home or a car. The only thing interest accomplishes is it transfers an excess portion of the borrower's earned income (which is not "tied up") to the lender, and so on and so forth, to infinity.
And, what do you think the lender does with all the interest that's collected? Most of it the lender can't even spend! It is just too much money!!! So, he lends it to others and others, etc., etc...
Where does the new liquidity come from? Where it’s supposed to come from when there is an increase in a nation's productive capacity--the government press! That's why it's created. The government need only make sure it does not print too much, which is easier to do when there’s no interest than when you have to keep track of principal AND interest.
Where do the risk averse investors turn? I know it is difficult to imagine now because we live in an interest laden society. But, risk averse lenders will invest their money in the ways that are available to them, just as they do now. Only interest bearing loans won't be one of them. Margrit Kennedy presents some creative suggestions to give people incentive to circulate their cash.
Finally, of course equity participation is very risky!!! That which is taken must come from somewhere.
Interest based lending has evolved into a little to NO RISK activity. Simply, it is unnatural.
Risk is inherent in life. You cannot eliminate risk, you can only transfer it--from lenders to equity investors!
Restore the balance and equity investing will no longer be as risky as it is now.
Thanks a lot, Bill! I didn't think about it this way until you asked me!
Thank God for the internet, and thank God for people like you who are ready to talk!
Nothing is free.
What's in it for me?
Moneylenders that take title to cash-strapped customers' cars for short-term loans charge up to 300% APR and take advantage of weak state laws and loopholes.These guys take NO RISK.
"Title lenders typically target 'captive' borrowers who cannot afford a house or qualify for credit cards, but suddenly confront a cash crisis."No creativity or productivity required; pure exploitation.
"That's what happened to Sharon Jones. [She] paid $1,365 toward her $500 title loan [that's some ROI, with no risk!!!] because her disability check only covers interest payments."This is standard operating procedure for moneylenders who profit by charging interest.
"But title-loan industry executives testified that tougher laws will put them out of business and deny cash-strapped Georgians like Jones access to their lender of last resort."Typical, the old "without us, how will these needy people survive?" I have a novel idea: how's about the government terminates bankers' monopoly on our money supply and lends interest-free money directly to citizens? Then no one will need their magnamious services!
"'The military's an especially ripe target' because of the rank-and-file's relative youth, lack of financial sophistication and concern that money problems could cost them advancement..."What they fail to admit is that anyone who is vulnerable is a target. And all of us are one step removed from vulnerability.
"Lending money at what amounts to [350% APR] or more should not be tolerated: If the payday and car-title loan industry wants to maintain that such exorbitant rates are necessary to do business, it is business that is not worth doing,"
While these types of loans are particularly egregious because of their extremely high interest rates, even the most modest amounts of interest can transform borrowers into slaves.
Take a look at NYC's MTA. All its bonds are issued at around 4-5%APR and they pay over $1.2BILLION annually in interest on their bonds! So, much of our tolls, fares and taxes go to paying interest on outstanding bonds while we wait in the street for broken down transit!
When will enough be ENOUGH to end this madness?
FIRST, they give moneylenders an exclusive license to CONTROL our money supply, and suck up our wealth through that fictional instrument called INTEREST (i.e., mortgages, car loans, credit cards, etc.).
That's life. Big fish eat little fish.
Emma Dixon writes about the role institutionalized racism played in the unnecessary losses suffered by African Americans both during and after hurricane Katrina and there's much truth to what she says.
Representative John Murtha of Pennsylvania made this speech on October 17 to the Democratic caucus.
This story is essential reading.
I am no tech guru. So, when I do things on my site, I don't always anticipate the technical conseqeunces.
Daysman said...
We both envision a banking system that is not allowed to charge interest determined by the market. Your voice is strong for a non-interest, not-for-profit money system; reminiscent of the Teutonic knights money structure. It is very rigid but it does retain value, I would even say that there would be no need for Congress to set the value of a dollar, money would not deviate in value. Wages would be king in such a system but bankruptcies could be brutal; there was no credit in the Teutonic knights' money system, credit came about with the advent of commerce and the industrial age.
We are in complete agreement that imparting a monopoly on the currency was a bad idea. For America to write a bond... in essence America takes out a loan, hence the bank is loaning "bank money" to America... instead of America issuing her own Constitutional money is bizarre and fantastically corrupt. Not only do we owe interest on those bonds, we owe the principal. When America issues her own money the nation is enriched. When America instead borrows money from the Federal Reserve the nation is indebted. The IRS then collects that debt from every American household and deposits it in the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve is a banking scam, pure and simple.
I think you tend to roll together fractional banking, currency speculation, bond money, compound interest loans; both corporate and mortgages, and simple interest (yes there still are simple interest loans; auto financing is simple interest) in your mind and label the whole evil beast as "interest". Nothing incorrect in your view, but understand that my view is that we need to stop everything except the simple interest loans. Banks can function as simple savings and loans to the benefit of free society.
Either one of our views would require the hand of God to execute... I personally hold fast to the hope that Jesus will return in the near future and clean the stinking planet up. I can't imagine a grass roots effort acquiring the momentum needed to overthrow the elite ruling class that has held the world in it's grip for centuries. In today's world, those rulers are bankers.
Thanks, Daysman.
I understand your point. Simple interest is far better than all this crap. But, it is nearly impossible to turn the current tide. If we're going to go through all that trouble we must not settle for anything less than equal access FOR ALL to the benefits of our monetary system. That is not possible with interest.
And to your last point, God works through people.
Let's pray and work hard. God will do the rest.
I've heard a lot of good things about Paul Krugman that appear to be true. This is the first time I've read his perspective.
Les Visible could not have been more correct; what you see is not what you get.
Disney's not performing so well these days.
"Parks and Resorts profit rose 10 percent to $309 million, while the consumer products division profit fell 10 percent to $132 million."Let's see. Generally, it