Brits in the Gulf and a Doctored British Map? - UPDATED

03.28.2007 Barry Lando / Craig Murray

Former British Ambassador Craig Murray is now challenging the legitimacy of the map just published by the British government in the current dispute with Iran over those 15 captured British sailors and marines.

"Fake Maritime Boundaries

I have been unpopular before, but the level of threats since I started blogging on the captured marines has got a bit scary.

It is therefore with some trepidation that I feel obliged to point this out.

"The British Government has published a map showing the coordinates of the incident, well within an Iran/Iraq maritime border. The mainstream media and even the blogosphere has bought this hook, line and sinker.

"But there are two colossal problems.

"A) The Iran/Iraq maritime boundary shown on the British government map does not exist. It has been drawn up by the British Government. Only Iraq and Iran can agree their bilateral boundary, and they never have done this in the Gulf, only inside the Shatt because there it is the land border too. This published boundary is a fake with no legal force.

"B) Accepting the British coordinates for the position of both HMS Cornwall and the incident, both were closer to Iranian land than Iraqi land. Go on, print out the map and measure it. Which underlines the point that the British produced border is not a reliable one.

"None of which changes the fact that the Iranians, having made their point, should have handed back the captives immediately. I pray they do so before this thing spirals out of control. But by producing a fake map of the Iran/Iraq boundary, notably unfavourable to Iran, we can only harden the Iranian position."

When I spoke with the former Ambassador he told me how dumbfounded he is by the way in which the mainstream media continues to treat this dispute.

The BBC for instance has already interviewed a supposed expert regarding the map, who vouched for its authenticity. But the point is, as Craig Murray, points out, how can such a map exist if the subject of boundaries has never been settled between Iraq and Iran? Turns out the expert had been referred to the BBC by the British Ministry of Defense--who also turned out the plan.

Sounds like the rerun of a bad movie we've already seen.


Barry Lando is the author of WEB OF DECEIT: The History of Western Complicity in Iraq, From Churchill to Kennedy to George W. Bush, just published by Other Press. Born in Canada and educated at Harvard and Columbia, Lando was a correspondent for Time-Life before becoming a producer for 60 Minutes, where he worked for twenty five years. He has won several top journalism awards, including two Emmys, a Dupont and a George Polk. Aside from producing more than a hundred reports for 60 Minutes, he also reported and produced an hour long documentary in 2004 for France’s Canal+ on Saddam Hussein, a documentary which was then rebroadcast in several countries around the globe. He has written extensively for such publications as The Atlantic, The Los Angeles Times, The Christian Science Monitor, The International Herald Tribune, Le Monde, and Salon. He currently lives in Paris.

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March 28, 2007

Fake Maritime Boundaries

Craig Murray

The British Government has published a map showing the coordinates of the incident, well within an Iran/Iraq maritime border. The mainstream media and even the blogosphere has bought this hook, line and sinker.

But there are two colossal problems.

A) The Iran/Iraq maritime boundary shown on the British government map does not exist. It has been drawn up by the British Government. Only Iraq and Iran can agree their bilateral boundary, and they never have done this in the Gulf, only inside the Shatt because there it is the land border too. This published boundary is a fake with no legal force.

B) Accepting the British coordinates for the position of both HMS Cornwall and the incident, both were closer to Iranian land than Iraqi land. Go on, print out the map and measure it. Which underlines the point that the British produced border is not a reliable one.

None of which changes the fact that the Iranians, having made their point, should have handed back the captives immediately. I pray they do so before this thing spirals out of control. But by producing a fake map of the Iran/Iraq boundary, notably unfavourable to Iran, we can only harden the Iranian position.

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March 27, 2007

Captured Marines (Again)

Craig Murray

My two earlier posts have caused quite a stir, so here are some further observations.

Sadly, but perhaps predictably, both the British and Iranian governments are now acting like idiots.

Tony Blair has let it be known that he is "utterly confident" that the British personnel were in Iraqi waters. He has of course never been known for his expertise in the Law of the Sea. But let us contrast this political certainty with the actual knowledge of the Royal Navy Commander of the operation on which the captives were taken.

Before the spin doctors could get to him, Commodore Lambert said:

"There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that they were in Iraqi territorial waters. Equally, the Iranians may well claim that they were in their territorial waters. The extent and definition of territorial waters in this part of the world is very complicated".

That is precisely right. The boundary between Iran and Iraq in the northern Persian Gulf has never been fixed. (Within the Shatt-al-Arab itself a line was fixed, but was to be updated every ten years because the waterway shifts, according to the treaty. As it has not been updated in over twenty years, whether it is still valid is a moot point. But it appears this incident occurred well south of the Shatt anyway.) This is a perfectly legitimate dispute. The existence of this dispute will clearly be indicated on HMS Cornwall's charts, which are in front of Commodore Lambert, but not of Mr Blair.

Until a boundary is agreed, you could only be certain that the personnel were in Iraqi territorial waters if they were within twelve miles of the coast and, at the same time, more than twelve miles from any island, spit, bar or sandbank claimed by Iran (or Kuwait).

That is very hard to judge as the British government refuse to give out the coordinates where the men were captured. If they really are utterly certain, I find that incomprehensible. Everyone knows the Gulf is teeming with British vessels and personnel, so the position of units a few days ago can hardly be valuable intelligence.

Until a boundary is set, it is not easy to posit where it should be. It has to be done by negotiation or arbitration. I have participated in these negotiations, for example on the boundary between the Channel Islands and France.

With a dead straight coastline with no islands, and a dead straight border between two countries hitting the coast at a right angle, you could have a straight maritime border between the two running out from the coast at a right angle. This never happens.

In practice, you agree a series of triangulation points on both coastlines and do a geometric triangulation exercise to find a line running out from the coast. Coasts of course can be very odd shapes. Draw an imaginary coast and border on a bit of paper and try it yourself. You will soon see why the rules permit you to take into account the general trend of the coastline, and even the angle of the land border. Those are not problems of geometry but old fashioned horse trading.

First, of course, both sides will argue about which triangulation points on the coast to accept. You are allowed, for example, to draw a line across a bay entrance and use that as the coast, but there is plenty of room for the other side to argue over where that line is drawn.

That is only the start. For territorial seas (but not the 200 mile exclusive economic zone) uninhabited rocks and sandbanks count. Again huge room for argument here - the ownership of a useless sandbank is not necessarily a settled thing. Sticking your triangulation point on a sandbank twelve miles out can make a huge difference.

Then it really gets complex. What if the sandbank only appears at low tide? What if it is dry all day, but only at certain times of the year? What if it is prone to move about a bit?

You haggle like mad over this. "You can't have that sandbank unless we have this one plus this spit." You also then get into weighting. "That bit of land is only around half the time, so we'll give it one third weighting" - in other words we will allow 33.3% more sea than you would get if it didn't exist and we just used a point on the coast.

Massive volumes have been written on the prinicples behind these negotiations, but they tend to ignore the fact that ultimately it has to come down to political negotiating skills between a vast range of justifiable possible agreements. That is why we just can't know where the boundary is between Iran and Iraq in this area, which has enough sandbanks to keep me happy thinking about it for centuries. If either side needs a negotiator...

Anyway, the UK was plainly wrong to be ultra provocative in disputed waters. They would be allowed to enter Iranian territorial seas in hot pursuit of terrorists, pirates or slavers, but not to carry out other military operations.

The Iranians had a right to detain the men if they were in seas legitimately claimed as territorial by Iran. Indeed, it is arguable that if a government makes a claim of sovereignty it rather has to enforce it, possession being nine parts of international law. But now the Iranian government is being very foolish, and itself acting illegally, by not releasing the men having made its point.

The story leaked by Russian intelligence claiming knowledge of US plans to attack Iran on 6 April has had great publicity in Iran, if very little here. Personally I doubt it is true. But it seems to me a definite risk that the Iranians will decide to keep the marines against that contingency.

That would be very unfortunate. The Iranian government, by continuing to hold the British personnel, are foolishly providing new impetus to Bush and Blair, whose attempts to bang the war drum against Iran have so far met profound public scepticism. We don't need any more oil wars.

If Blair actually sought the release of our people, rather than anti-Iranian propaganda, he would stop making stupid macho noises and give an assurance that we intend to resolve not only this problem but all disagreements with Iran by peaceful means, and give specific reassurance that no attack is imminent.

But if the Iranian government wait for Blair to behave well, the marines will rot for ever. They should let the men (and woman) go now, with lots of signs of friendship, thus further wrongfooting Bush and Blair.

Craig Murray
Writer and broadcaster
As Britain's outspoken Ambassador to the Central Asian Republic of Uzbekistan, Craig Murray helped expose vicious human rights abuses by the US-funded regime of Islam Karimov. He is now a prominent critic of Western policy in the region.

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Update:

Briton Admits to Trespass on Video Shown by Iran

Britain Must Admit Error, Iran Says

Royal Navy Team Seized in Persian Gulf Appears on Video Broadcast in Tehran

By Mary Jordan and Robin Wright
Washington Post Foreign Service
Thursday, March 29, 2007; A12...

Lies My Paper Told Me: Targeting Iran By Distortion

Lies My Paper Told Me
We can't just blame the media alone for not telling the truth -- we've got to face the fact that audiences are paying to hear those lies.

By Allan Uthman, Buffalo Beast
Posted on March 24, 2007

While I'm one of those big complainers about deception in the media, I have to admit I get a giddy thrill out of reading it. As with any addiction, I've developed an increasing tolerance and require an ever purer dosage of insidious lies and appeals to conformity to get my kicks. Now I have a special appreciation for the most extreme variety of corporate press dishonesty: articles written solely to insult reality....

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U.S. ready to strike Iran in early April - intelligence source -1 (30/ 03/ 2007)

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MOSCOW, March 30 (RIA Novosti) - Russian intelligence has information that the U.S. Armed Forces have nearly completed preparations for a possible military operation against Iran, and will be ready to strike in early April, a security official said....

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Friday, March 30, 2007

Both Sides Must Stop This Mad Confrontation, Now

Sensible Proposal to end the Iran-UK standoff

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March 29, 2007

Craig Murray

There is no agreed maritime boundary between Iraq and Iran in the Persian Gulf. Until the current mad propaganda exercise of the last week, nobody would have found that in the least a controversial statement....

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Sleepwalking to the End of the World

Almost nine months ago, on July 3, 2006, I published, "Our Date with Armageddon." In part, I wrote: The overall pattern at work here is exactly the same one utilized for Iraq: phony diplomacy, then U.N. action which will similarly make compliance by Iran impossible, then a few speeches accusing Iran of defying the will of the "civilized world" and of being too great a threat to be tolerated -- and then the bombing. And almost no one will be heard to say that the "crisis" was created out of thin air, and that in fact no crisis exists at all....
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War with Iran will destroy U.S. and the world

Peter Chamberlin - March 29, 2007

The neocon plan for world domination goes on. Even without former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and all the other key players, the violent plan to remake the Middle East in our image is now shifting into a higher gear. If you listen closely, you can hear the sound of a clock counting down. Bush is running out of time....

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Call that humiliation?

No hoods. No electric shocks. No beatings. These Iranians clearly are a very uncivilised bunch.

Terry Jones
Saturday March 31, 2007
The Guardian

I share the outrage expressed in the British press over the treatment of our naval personnel accused by Iran of illegally entering their waters. It is a disgrace. We would never dream of treating captives like this - allowing them to smoke cigarettes, for example, even though it has been proven that smoking kills. And as for compelling poor servicewoman Faye Turney to wear a black headscarf, and then allowing the picture to be posted around the world - have the Iranians no concept of civilised behaviour? For God's sake, what's wrong with putting a bag over her head? That's what we do with the Muslims we capture: we put bags over their heads, so it's hard to breathe. Then it's perfectly acceptable to take photographs of them and circulate them to the press because the captives can't be recognised and humiliated in the way these unfortunate British service people are....

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"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." – George W. Bush, September 2002

"This notion that the United States is getting ready to attack Iran is simply ridiculous... Having said that, all options are on the table." - George W. Bush, February 2005

The Bush administration continues moving closer to a nuclear attack on Iran, and we ignore the obvious buildup at our peril.

Russian media are sounding alarms....
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Iraq/Iran Maritime Boundaries; Iranian Diplomat: I Was Misquoted Over UK Sailors Trial

Iraq/Iran Maritime Boundaries
March 30, 2007

Craig Murray

Foreign Policy magazine has a blog which has just published an article calling me a "gadfly" and saying I am "missing the point". The point being a highly contentious statement by former Bahraini government legal adviser Kaiyan Kaikobad that the maritime boundary drawn by the UK MOD has become part of international law by usage....

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'Cruel, Callous, Inhumane, Unacceptable'

Felicity Arbuthnot March 30, 2007.

'Cruel, Callous, Inhumane and Unacceptable.' An Open Letter to the UK Chancellor of the Exchequer, Gordon Brown, M.P.

Dear Mr. Brown,

Standing in Afghanistan, you called the Iranian holding of fifteen British sailors who it is likely strayed in to Iranian waters: 'Cruel, callous, inhumane and unacceptable.' Breathtaking. Compared to the behavior of the UK and US troops, their treatment in Iran is seemingly a health spa.

'Cruel, callous, inhumane and unacceptable', is the total destruction of the country you were standing in. The boiling to death of several thousand prisoners, held in metal trucks in the sweltering summer, under the watch and very possibly at the hands of our American allies (complex accounts differ.)

It is the bombing of village after village, of wedding parties and funerals, of goat herders, farmers, shepherds.

It is reducing the country to a radioactive nightmare...

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The American dimension: UK tells US to shut the neocons the f**k up

Leader
Saturday March 31, 2007
The Guardian

In one sense it is perhaps just as well that it was British, rather than American, sailors and marines who were taken prisoner. If they had been Americans, the rump of neoconservatives in the Bush administration, in particular Dick Cheney and Elliott Abrams, would have been saying: "We told you so." They have long argued that Iran is not susceptible to diplomatic pressure, that the European approach is doomed to failure and the only way to stop Iran acquiring a nuclear-weapons capability is a military strike on its nuclear facilities....

Even though the prisoners are British rather than Americans, neocons have been desperate to head for television studios. The only reason they have not done so yet is a request by the British government to the Bush administration to stay out of it. Word has also reached members of Congress. The British fear is that even a mild rebuke from President George Bush, or a neoconservative such as John Bolton, will be counterproductive, escalating the crisis and making it harder to get the 15 back....
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Iran: Regional War could lead to Global Market Crash

Blair needs to lean on his allies

01 April 2007

Tony Blair’s useless threats to the Iranians over the hostages could lead to a major regional war, should his hand be forced, writes Robert Fox.
Tony Blair’s useless threats to the Iranians over the hostages could lead to a major regional war, should his hand be forced, writes Robert Fox.

The row over the 15 British naval hostages and various representatives , elected and non-elected, of the Islamic Republic of Iran, started as a squall in a teacup in disputed waters in the Gulf, but now shows all the signs of becoming unmanageable and nasty....

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why can't we have people like him working in our government agencies?

Why must they all be power hungry madmen?

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qrswave | Thu, 2007-03-29 10:46

Well the accepted boundaries are printed on marine charts, there is some dispute on the ships position. The BBC overflew it and it was .44NM to the NE more towards Iran.
I do believe the British are telling the truth, though 1.5 NM in a ship travelling at 20knots is a tiny incursion and she was more or less on the marine boundaries. I feel the real issue is not whose waters she was in, but whether a greater margin for error should have been given as maritime boundaries are more imprecise and ship navigation is affected by winds and currents.

In Raymarine Raytech global map she was on the boundary, though this map is not very precise.

The merchant ship herself would have been transmitting and perhaps recording her position, using a AIS transponder to all around her. So if any party had a half decent maritime system, the boats course and position would have been tracked and recorded - why has this data not been provided?

Richbrain | Thu, 2007-03-29 12:31

A beach too far: British marines invade Spain by mistake

Independent, The (London), Feb 19, 2002 by Kim Sengupta

After its military successes in Kosovo, Sierra Leone and Afghanistan, Britain tried on Sunday to end the continuing row over Gibraltar by invading Spain.

That, at least, is what it may have looked like to the inhabitants of the Spanish town of La Linea de la Concepcion when they saw waves of Royal Marines hit the beach wielding mortar launchers and SA80 assault rifles. Sunbathers sat up startled, fishermen gawped and children ran to their mothers as the men of 45 Commando took up battle stations. It was then that they were approached by a policeman asking: "Excuse me, Inglese, but which country do you think you are in?"

Having realised they were not in Gibraltar, the marines packed up their weapons and climbed back into their landing craft, muttering apologies, to go further south.

The marines, based at Condor Barracks, near Arbroath in Scotland, were taking part in an exercise while sailing to the Gulf on the helicopter carrier, HMS Ocean. The wrong landing, a corporal pointed out, was due to "one of the most dangerous things in the world - an officer with a map".

And how convenient that the Independent interviewed the Woman Marine captured just hours before the incident. Jessica Lynch with a cockney touch. These idiots keep going to the same playbook, and the sad thing is that it works on the brain dead masses.

Claymoremind | Thu, 2007-03-29 13:38

Briton Admits to Trespass on Video Shown by Iran

Britain Must Admit Error, Iran Says

Royal Navy Team Seized in Persian Gulf Appears on Video Broadcast in Tehran

By Mary Jordan and Robin Wright
Washington Post Foreign Service
Thursday, March 29, 2007; A12...

mparent7777 | Thu, 2007-03-29 17:51

Both Sides Must Stop This Mad Confrontation, Now

Sensible Proposal to end the Iran-UK standoff

March 29, 2007

Craig Murray

There is no agreed maritime boundary between Iraq and Iran in the Persian Gulf. Until the current mad propaganda exercise of the last week, nobody would have found that in the least a controversial statement....

mparent7777 | Fri, 2007-03-30 23:40

Sleepwalking to the End of the World

Almost nine months ago, on July 3, 2006, I published, "Our Date with Armageddon." In part, I wrote: The overall pattern at work here is exactly the same one utilized for Iraq: phony diplomacy, then U.N. action which will similarly make compliance by Iran impossible, then a few speeches accusing Iran of defying the will of the "civilized world" and of being too great a threat to be tolerated -- and then the bombing. And almost no one will be heard to say that the "crisis" was created out of thin air, and that in fact no crisis exists at all....

mparent7777 | Sat, 2007-03-31 02:16

Iraq/Iran Maritime Boundaries; Iranian Diplomat: I Was Misquoted Over UK Sailors Trial

Iraq/Iran Maritime Boundaries
March 30, 2007

Craig Murray

Foreign Policy magazine has a blog which has just published an article calling me a "gadfly" and saying I am "missing the point". The point being a highly contentious statement by former Bahraini government legal adviser Kaiyan Kaikobad that the maritime boundary drawn by the UK MOD has become part of international law by usage....

mparent7777 | Sat, 2007-03-31 20:49

This urgently needs a post all its own.

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qrswave | Sat, 2007-03-31 21:25

Truth Seeker--- He is the same person that exposed the CIA-- uzbek torture connection..he has the goods on them and needs to be all over the news telling the truth..

Truth Seeker07 | Sun, 2007-04-01 03:40

The American dimension: UK tells US to shut the neocons the f**k up

Leader
Saturday March 31, 2007
The Guardian

In one sense it is perhaps just as well that it was British, rather than American, sailors and marines who were taken prisoner. If they had been Americans, the rump of neoconservatives in the Bush administration, in particular Dick Cheney and Elliott Abrams, would have been saying: "We told you so." They have long argued that Iran is not susceptible to diplomatic pressure, that the European approach is doomed to failure and the only way to stop Iran acquiring a nuclear-weapons capability is a military strike on its nuclear facilities....

Even though the prisoners are British rather than Americans, neocons have been desperate to head for television studios. The only reason they have not done so yet is a request by the British government to the Bush administration to stay out of it. Word has also reached members of Congress. The British fear is that even a mild rebuke from President George Bush, or a neoconservative such as John Bolton, will be counterproductive, escalating the crisis and making it harder to get the 15 back....

mparent7777 | Mon, 2007-04-02 21:38

Iran: Regional War could lead to Global Market Crash

Blair needs to lean on his allies

01 April 2007

Tony Blair’s useless threats to the Iranians over the hostages could lead to a major regional war, should his hand be forced, writes Robert Fox.
Tony Blair’s useless threats to the Iranians over the hostages could lead to a major regional war, should his hand be forced, writes Robert Fox.

The row over the 15 British naval hostages and various representatives , elected and non-elected, of the Islamic Republic of Iran, started as a squall in a teacup in disputed waters in the Gulf, but now shows all the signs of becoming unmanageable and nasty....

mparent7777 | Tue, 2007-04-03 00:18

In the endgame," said one of the world's best-ever chess players, José Raúl Capablanca, "don't think in terms of moves but in terms of plans." The situation in Iraq is now unravelling into the bloodiest endgame imaginable. Both popular and official support for the war in those countries that ordered the invasion is already at a low and will only get lower. Whatever mandate the occupiers may have once had from their own electorates - in Britain it was none, in the US it was precarious - has now eroded. They can no longer conduct this war as they have been doing.
Collins, The Editor of the Journal 'Herbal Cialis'

Collins | Sun, 2007-06-03 14:22

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