Ahmadenijad the Great vs. Blair the Ingrate

Perhaps some peope won't agree that Ahmadinejad is 'Great' (though I think he is). But, throughout the latest incident he conducted himself both with integrity and grace. Meanwhile, Phony Tony has once again demonstrated to the world what a small-minded, back-stabbing, zionist boot-licker he is.

The 15 British marines and sailors held captive in Iran for nearly two weeks arrived back home today. But Britain’s relief at their safe return was tarnished by questions about how they behaved during their detention and why they had been captured in the first place.

At the same time, Prime Minister Tony Bair abandoned the careful, diplomatic language he used during the crisis. Today, when the captives were safely en route to Britain, his tone became tough, almost antagonistic, as he spoke of possible links between the Iranian government and terrorism in Iran.

In short, he's a two-faced ingrate.

The British captives’ homecoming was carefully choreographed.

On Wednesday, before their release in Tehran, they were shown on television wearing outfits issued by the Iranian government — ill-fitting suits for the men and a headscarf and trousers for the lone woman, Leading Seaman Faye Turney. But when they arrived at Heathrow Airport outside London today, the eight sailors and seven marines were dressed once more in military clothing that had been flown in from Britain.

How petty - the sailors are returned both happy and healthy and Brits are complaining that their suits don't 'fit.' At least they're not bright orange with matching potatoe sacks for their heads!

Also worth noting, Iranians sent the sailors back in casual dress to underline the civil relationship that was forged between them and the Iranian people and their government and in recognition of their existence as human beings apart from their roles in the British military.

In stark contrast, the British government couldn't wait to get them back into military jumpsuits, underscoring the expectation that their first allegiance must be to the BRITISH MILITARY, not to themselves and their families.

This is more apparent when you consider how they're being chastised by so-called right-wing 'experts' because they failed to sacrifice their lives for Britian's 'national honor.'

Seized while conducting a routine operation in the disputed Shatt al-Arab waterway, just north of the Persian Gulf, on March 23, the captives were repeatedly displayed on Iranian state television, sometimes looking relaxed and smiling. In several cases, they confessed to and apologized for having trespassed on Iranian territorial waters.

The images were jarring, verging on the bizarre. At one point they lined up for handshakes and chats with the Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. The latest television footage showed the detainees sipping cups of tea, accepting goody bags of gifts and answering questions from Iranian journalists about things like whether Iran reminded them of Wales. Several appeared to go out of their way to thank the Iranians for releasing them.

“The treatment has been great,” Leading Seaman Turney said. “Thank you for letting us go. We apologize for our actions.”

The British defense secretary, Des Browne, said the freed marines and sailors had behaved appropriately.

“You have seen for yourself these are very young people,” Mr. Browne told the BBC. “I think they have acted with immense courage and dignity during the time that they have been detained and indeed presented before the media of the world.”

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Throughout what became a diplomatic stalemate, Britain maintained that the sailors and marines were sailing in Iraqi water on United Nations-mandated business. Iran contended that they had been trespassing on Iranian waterways and demanded that Britain apologize and never do it again — an apology Britain does not appear to have made, at least publicly.

The focus is now on the detainees.

Just as Ahmadenijad predicted.

were they coerced into their confessions in Iran, or did they speak voluntarily?

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Christopher Dandeker, a professor of military sociology at University College London, said he agreed with Colonel Dewar’s assessment. He said, too, that the captives’ behavior raised worrying issues.

“I know many military people are concerned about the overly loquacious and positive statements made by the service personnel,” he said in an e-mail message. “But as yet we don’t know what kinds of coercion were present before the ‘hostages’ made their TV statements.”

Several members of the military said in interviews today that the captured Britons had probably had not received a great deal of training in how to behave if taken hostage.
“I’d be surprised if they’d had a lot of in-depth training,” said an officer in the British Army, speaking on condition that his name not be used because he had not cleared the interview with his commanding officer. Before he served in Iraq, the officer said in a telephone interview, “we had about half an hour briefing by some bored guy with slides, and he certainly wasn’t envisaging the type of situation that they got into.”

The officer said that the captives’ first priority was, undoubtedly, getting back home. “I’m sure there will be lots of old people back home who will criticize, but most currently serving soldiers would probably say, do what you need to get out.”

A spokesman for the Ministry of Defense said the military offered “basic captive training” but would not elaborate.

“We’re not releasing the details of the training any of the services go through under those conditions because if we do that than it would make it easier to interrogate them” should they be taken captive, the spokesman said, speaking on condition of anonymity in accordance with British government policy.

Writing in the British newspaper The Daily Mail, a popular right-leaning newspaper, a columnist, Steven Glover, compared the captives’ behavior unfavorably to that of their predecessors in earlier conflicts.

“I do not blame the hostages for their apparent willingness to confess and apologize,” Mr. Glover wrote. “But we had better be honest with ourselves. In no previous era — not during World War II or Korea or Suez or the Falklands — would British servicemen have behaved in such a manner.”

The difference which is lost on this right-wing warmonger is that the UK and Iran ARE NOT AT WAR and this was not a military incident but a legitimate police action incident to what Iranians perceived, fairly expectedly, as foreign trespass in their maritime waters.

Besides, he's just upset that these sailors demonstrated for the world that a little diplomacy and goodwill goes a long way in maintaining peace with Iranians.

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The UK has apparently appointed one of the freed marines as an official spokesperson and fed him a tale to tell.

ROYAL MARINE BASE CHIVENOR, England - British sailors and marines held for nearly two weeks in Iran were blindfolded, bound and threatened with prison if they did not say they had strayed into Iranian waters, a Royal Navy lieutenant who was among the capitives said Friday.

Lt. Felix Carman, safely home with his 14 colleagues, said the crew faced harsh interrogation by their Iranian captors and slept in stone cells on piles of blankets. Unable to see and kept isolated, they heard weapons cocking.

"We were blindfolded, our hands were bound and we were forced up against a wall. Throughout our ordeal we faced constant psychological pressure," Carman said. "All of us were kept in isolation. We were interrogated most nights and presented with two options. If we admitted that we'd strayed, we'd be on a plane to (Britain) pretty soon. If we didn't, we faced up to seven years in prison."

Within hours of the news conference, Iranian state television said the British military had "dictated" to its sailors what to say.

Royal Marine Capt. Chris Air said the crew of 15, which was out on a routine operation on March 23, was confronted by members of Iran's Revolutionary Guard.

"They rammed our boats, and trained their heavy machine guns, RPGs, and weapons on us. Another six boats were closing in on us," Air said. "We realized that had we resisted there would have been a major fight, one we could not have won, with consequences that would have major strategic impacts. We made a conscious decision not to engage the Iranians."

Iran insists the British strayed into its territory; the sailors and the British government deny the accusation and maintain they were in Iraqi waters.

Britain's top naval officer said boarding operations would be suspended while a review is conducted.

"Coalition operations continue under U.K. command," said Adm. Jonathon Band, head of the Royal Navy. "Currently, our (operations) have been suspended while we do that review."

The most visible of the seized sailors and marines was Leading Seaman Faye Turney, a 26-year-old mother of one. Her letters home received widespread publicity in Britain, particularly one in which she requested the British government withdraw from Iraq.

Air said she was singled out for propaganda purposes, held in solitary confinement and told the others had gone home.

"Being an Islamic country, Faye was subjected to different rules than we were. She was separated as soon as she arrived, and was told that her colleagues had been flown home," Air said. "She coped admirably and has maintained a lot of dignity."

While much of the country rallied behind the crew's return, others criticized them for offering apologies where none was required — namely for appearing in videos in which they admitted and offered regrets for entering Iranian waters.

The servicemen said they had tried to be vague about whether they had strayed into Iranian waters in statements they made during captivity.

"We were very careful about what we said and what we didn't say," Air told The Associated Press. He said the Iranian captors were humane, but said there were a "few incidents when our safety was at risk."

It's not possible to know everything the sailors and marines said to their captors but at least some statements avoided saying definitely they were in Iran's waters.

For example, in one of the letters made public from Turney, she said she had "apparently gone into Iranian waters." In a video clip from Iranian TV, Air said "we were seized apparently at this point here on their maps and on the GPS they've shown us, which is inside Iranian territorial waters."

Carman had been pictured on Iranian television saying he "understood" why Iran was angry the crew had strayed into their waters. At Friday's news conference, he said the crew was nearly two nautical miles from Iran's territory — and that they had never apologized.

"Let me make this clear — irrespective of what was said in the past — when we were detained by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard we were inside internationally recognized Iraqi territorial waters," he said. "At no time did we actually say were sorry for straying into Iranian waters."

In its news report on the sailors, Iranian state TV accusing Britain of dictating statements to the crew, saying "the British sailors only read from pages dictated to them."

Air and Carmen were among six of the crew members who chose to speak publicly Friday.

Band told British Broadcasting Corp. radio that the crew had "acted with considerable dignity and a lot of courage."

"They appear to have played it by the rules, they don't appear to have put themselves into danger, others into danger, they don't appear to have given anything away," he said. "I think, in the end, they were a credit to us."

Britain insisted the crew was on a routine operation when seized — but Sky News reported Thursday that Air said in an interview days before his capture that his crew was gathering intelligence on Iran during their patrols. Sky said it held the interview because it thought it could hamper the crew's release.

Defense ministry officials denied the sailors and marines had an intelligence role, but said they routinely spoke to commanders of vessels using the Persian Gulf and Shatt Al-Arab waterway to determine who was using shipping routes.

Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad announced Wednesday that the Britons would be released — a breakthrough in a crisis that had raised oil prices and escalated fears of military conflict in the volatile region. The move suggested Iran's hard-line leadership had decided it had shown its strength but did not want to push the standoff too far.

But Iran did not get the main thing it sought — a public apology for entering Iranian waters. Britain insists it never offered a deal, instead relying on quiet and sometimes silent diplomacy.

Of course, if they were blindfolded and kept under harsh conditions, like this guy alleges, the Iranians would have been less likely to let them go.

I call bullshit on the Brits.

It will be interesting to see whether the British government will allow the rest of the freed sailors to speak to the press.

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qrswave | Fri, 2007-04-06 22:47

Moscow to Get New Air Defense System in August

___________ IMPLICATION: Russia, and the rest of the world is 'ready' for a showdown, if the KhaZars want to 'play.'

Created: 06.04.2007 14:46 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 14:51 MSK, 9 hours 17 minutes ago

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According to a senior air defense commander Russia plans to put new air defense systems on combat duty around Moscow in the end of August.

___________ IMPLICATION: They are protecting their largest city from ANOTHER Ashkenazi GENOCIDE --- they will NOT allow another "Bolshelvik" to happen.

“We are expecting to receive S-400 systems to protect the airspace around the capital in July-August,” Colonel-General Yury Solovyov, commander of the Air Defense Forces Special Command, was quoted by RIA Novosti as saying.

_____________ IMPLICATION: These S-400 air DEFENSE systems are the state-of-the-art in the world, they are highly mobile - thus, making them more resilient to any Zionist Sabotage attempt.

The general said that the system could be also used for limited purposes in missile and space defense, but it is not intended to destroy intercontinental ballistic missiles.

_____________ IMPLICATION: Not "intended" to destroy intercontinental (US/UK) ballistic missiles, but very much capable of doing so.

The system is highly capable of destroying stealth aircraft, cruise missiles and ballistic missiles with an effective range of up to 3,500 km and a speed of up to 4.8 km per second, he said.

______________ IMPLICATIONS: Highly capable of destroying Stealth fighters (even the newly F-22), Cruise missiles (remember Gulf War?!!), and Ballistic missles. Range of 3,500 km is damn far --- FYI, it almost the WIDTH OF THE USA from Coast to Coast, or in other words ANYWHERE IN EUROPE, AUSTRALIA, CANADA, USA --- anywhere the KhaZars can hide.

______________ By the way, 4.8 kps is 14 TIMES THE SPEED OF SOUND (343 m/s in Air at 20C), which can EASILY catch up to a Stealth fighter which travels at 3 MACH max for short bursts at that. In other words, it'll take about 11 MINUTES to travel 3,500 KM ---- you can't stop something that travels THAT FRIGGIN' FAST!!!!

The Russian Air Defense Forces currently deploy more than 30 regiments equipped with S-300 missile complexes, which will be gradually replaced with S-400 systems.

________________ IMPLICATION: The Russians KNOW what the Ashkenazis are up to, they are "upgrading" for any future "confrontation".

The Great Revealer | Sat, 2007-04-07 02:13

Blair's attempt to claw back some of his PR losses involves promoting the theory that the roadside bomb that killed 4 UK troops was Iranian-made, with the implication being that Ahmadinejad is a hypocrite who poses as a 'friend' who wants peace as he kills Brits in Iraq. Blair's 'evidence' consists of a statement by a Basra police commander that the bomb may have been Iranian because it hadn't been seen in that area before, and, according to the US, matched a description of an Iranian-designed bomb.

In contrast, Bush, Blair and their agents are sometimes observed going to Israel, ostensibly for "peace talks". The reality is that they have to receive their orders behind closed doors, since phones can be tapped. At the same time, it is no secret that Israel is supplied with US-built weapons, shipped via Scotland or England, to be targeted on Lebanese and Palestinian people. It would be no surprise if Iranians felt threatened by British or US forces. But Lebanon or Gaza pose no threat to the British or US regimes.

Troops posted to Iraq now have additional incentive to 'accidentally' get captured by Iranian forces. If they go to Iraq, the locals try to blow them up. If they go to Iran, they get goody bags with CDs, candy, nuts, books and Iranian crafts, suits - albeit ill-fitting - to take away, they get to go home, and most importantly, they get to shake the hand of a world-class statesman who, unlike almost all the rest, is not a lying, cheating, fawning, double-dealing, parallel-fornicating, genocidal, treasonous, dangerous sociopath.

Poseidon | Sat, 2007-04-07 15:07

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