This Daryl persona is So clever that if i (or anyone else) points out his lies directly he just comes up with another line of crap to gloss over his lies.
I could feed you but tomorrow you will be just as hungry. Learn how to feed yourself this food and you will be able to share your help too.

I will not help them vet the parts of there show that they are trying to fix. if they (Daryl and Eric) cannot see there own lies and mistakes of spook craft i will not help him remove or cover them up. All you need to look at in regards to Daryl and Eric is to look VERY carefully at there DEEDS.

Anyone that sat through the early shows of his will see the real face of that man wherever he is. And if they grab his ass and Stand him up before the man
then i will come with my records on this person and his (as i know them to be) lies.

I know you all want me to burn him BUT you all need to see the things that evil man hides behind. I cannot lead you to your own enlightment i can only tell you i have seen it and you need to see his clever tricks with your own eyes and awareness because it's different for everyone to ever cross the IATW threshold. The MOST effective way to mis direct someone is to mix 2% propaganda with 98% truth. then the 2% gets a much better time doing it's work. Daryl is a user of this ratio i have seen it a lot in his works.

P.S. let me know if you want to hear any of the Early shows of his i have most all of them up to MAR 06'

And i am not even sort of fuzzy about the CIA pay cheques to DBS either.If there not paying him they have a mountain of dirt on him in lieu of the actual cash.
First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

Masher, you're gonna go blind young if you keep that up.

Why would a Zionist CIA plant expose the crimes of the Zionists and their puppets?

It makes no sense. If he is a plant he would hide their crimes and misdirect in that way.

I think there are lots of people who have exposed the Zionists and Daryl thinks he is 'the one of a few', which I think is pretentious...but it makes no sense to see him as a Zionist plant. Suspicions are normal and healthy...but so far there is little evidence...except for the fact that he is allowed to say what he does....I am surprised he has not been taken care of by the Assasins or an 'accident'.

Leftie, I don't know the details of the DBS-Piper falling out. I do trust Bollyn and Smith.

The reason to let truth leak out over time, is that most people aren't paying attention. The leaker establishes great credibility in the "conspiracy nut" circles which are contained and don't spill over into the mainstream. Then when another job comes along, the leaker is prepositioned to be the ultimate source of truth. Good old Gnome Chomsky is considered to be God by a shitload of pretty well informed people. If he says there's nothing to 911, most of them turn away.

I think Chomsky dare not say 9/11 was a Zionist false flag operation because he would lose his position as 'legitimate' dissident. The Zionists need the appearance of criticism to give the impression that 'freedom of expression' exists and it helps keep the critique within over group preset parameters. Chomsky may be their man.

In addition to the above it may be a intellectual refusal to be tainted and smeared as a 'Conspiracy Theorist', Chomsky prides himself on having a intellectual analytical explanation of the 'elite interests' and their behavior. He would find it repelant to subscribe to 'Conspiracy Theorists'.

Chomsky has been critical of Zionists though (probably within preset parameters).

See examples: http://www.understandingpower.com/

see chapter 6

First time I heard it in a movie years ago, but I am not sure who the original author is: "Devil's greatest accomplishment is that he made people believe he does not exist." From John Stuart to Noam Chomsky, who ever is making people believe devil does not exist, is contributing to his accomplishment, knowingly or unknowingly. Daryl and Eric are not among them.

... I didn't get the irony in your post, and thought you were sarcastically attacking DBS while sharing info from him.

I have to say, even though sometimes I get annoyed at DBS's abrasiveness, and have some criticisms on the way he handles some things, I have never seen any evidence of him being a disinfo agent, or a provocateur. Masher1, it's no good saying you have evidence against DBS, then saying we have to see it for ourselves and not share it with us for us to scrutinize. With that logic, you might as well stop posting anything on this site, and just let us get on with seeing it all for ourselves.

Last year DBS called on listeners of his show to start myspace profiles to promote the info and files he put out. Masher, I remember you were among the early ones that posted a lot of messages on his profile comments board, and I don't remember the details, but you had a falling out with DBS over something. Wanna fill us in on the details (if I'm correct), and could this have anything to do with why you don't like DBS yet offer no evidence to show that he is disinfo?

Also, while Curt Maynard seems sincere in his convictions (I don't think Maynard is a sneaky disinfo guy), and puts out good anti-Zionist info, he does it from a racist/racialist perspective of the world. I agree with DBS in the point that this doesn't help anti-Zionism and only taints resistance to Zionism.

What's the point of fighting Jewish Supremacism using White Supremacism? They're both just as bad and ignorant. Maynard is always attacking blacks, hispanics, etc (as the 'dumb' criminals) and attacking Jews (as the 'smart' criminals) and makes whites as the victims. Horsemanure. There are only humans, and among them criminals. Let's not bring skin color or our mothers into this.

QUOTE:

"The Zionists are still largely unseen by the masses but their asses are starting to hang out and they are clearly panicking as the Paula Zahn anti-Bollyn/DBS show proves."

If I may offer some advice:
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(1) Zionists and their agents are found and discovered by their actions, AND

(2) Look to the 'ultimate effect' of said actions and words.
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The fact that Noam Chomsky "glosses" over the OBVIOUS Zionist/KhaZar involvement (actually more than 'mere involvement, but orchestration) and the fact that he's "jewish" (i.e. a higher 'tendency to be biased') ---- puts him in the "ZIONIST DIS-INFORMATION SQUAD".

Just like his Zionist friend Amy Goodman, whom we've exposed.

Anyone who "overlooks" 'Jewish' orchestration of USS Liberty, JFK assassination, Pinochet, Killing Fields of Cambodia, 9/11 ---- is OBVIOUS ONE OF THEM!

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These are WELL DOCUMENTED AND SUPPORT FACTS. A "truth seeker" can't just "overlook" these obvious facts.

That is a major point.

For that reason, Noam Chompsky, Amy Goodman, and (potentially) Alex Jones ---- are Zionists.

However, with Alex Jones, I have some reservations.

Here's my line of thought. I've only observed in 3 instances whereby he 'points the finger' at the Jews --- yet, the most obvious FACTS he TOTALLY IGNORES (i.e. talks A LOT ABOUT 9/11, but conveniently "censors" links to MOSSAD/Israeli/Jews).

However, I can see several reasons for him to do so.

1) Firstly, he's a HUGE media figure head, and any mention of "jews" will land him in "Anti-Semitic-land" (a mis-construed false term, as you know).

2) Secondly, he's providing some very useful information to a large percentage of US population. An example is the 'large public open prisons' that are being constructed by the US government, FOR the American mass population.

That alone is unique, since other than WRH, most Truth Movements have small audiences.

3) He does talk about (to some degree) the "Vehicles" of the Askenazi Khazarian MONEY CHANGERS (an old term referenced often in old literature and political discussions in old Europe, to refer to "jewish" bankers).

Examples include:
- 9/11
- controlled demo
- Illuminati
- Secret prisons
- History of Communism (i.e. also a Jewish movement, used to create a "crisis")
- etc

===> BUT THE FACT THAT HE "GLOSSES" over the ACTUAL PERPETRATORS almost every time, is highly suspicious.

For now, it's best to keep an eye on him and people like him.

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Chomsky et al

I think Chomsky dare not say 9/11 was a Zionist false flag operation because he would lose his position as 'legitimate' dissident. The Zionists need the appearance of criticism to give the impression that 'freedom of expression' exists and it helps keep the critique within over group preset parameters. Chomsky may be their man.

In addition to the above it may be a intellectual refusal to be tainted and smeared as a 'Conspiracy Theorist', Chomsky prides himself on having a intellectual analytical explanation of the 'elite interests' and their behavior. He would find it repelant to subscribe to 'Conspiracy Theorists'.

Chomsky has been critical of Zionists though (probably within preset parameters).

See examples: http://www.understandingpower.com/

see chapter 6
leftfield | Fri, 2007-04-06 21:14

I guess most people on this sort of board ask themselves the questions like "where is the evidence" and "who benefits" when people make statements in the news and on the internet so if there is any evidence that Daryl Bradford Smith, Eric Hufschmid or Chris Bollyn are lying then let us hear it. I'm all for truth.

There has recently been a reaction by Ryan Dawson (who I believe to be honest but of course could be mistaken) to Daryl Smith's post and audio file of 30th March in which he expressed great displeasure in what Smith said. Smith actually said very little about Dawson, merely that he did not go one level above the Zionist "criminals" like Feith, Perle, Silverstein et al and Dawson responded that he had written about the Rothschilds and others.

I think this is a case of two people having a great deal of common ground but subtle differences between them causing trouble. I could be wrong but that is just my impression. Eric winds people up because he is very hard on people who will not consider other deceptions (in his opinion) like the Holocaust and the Apollo moon landings. For what it is worth he has a good case in both instances in my opinion. I think Eric should give people a break as the material (particularly on the holocaust) is very time consuming and difficult to assimilate.

Daryl Bradford Smith should interview Ryan Dawson and I have mailed him to say so. Daryl Bradford Smith does also on occasion say things that are clearly false but probably just because of his enthusiasm. Once he said that everybody in the UK knows that 7/7 was a false flag operation. That is not true! The vast majority of the population here do not even know of the problems within the official account and although I do, I do not know what went on!

The one person in all of this who I have not seen any problems with is Bollyn. The material he brings to our attention is first rate, and he does not speculate if he can help it. He just presents evidence. We do not have the luxury of mathematical standards of proof within the "truth movement" (whatever that means) so we all just have to assess the evidence presented and draw our conclusions about the probability of each assertion being correct. I'm sorry if that sounds a bit woolly but it is a reasonable statement of our predicaments, in my humble opinion.

Chumpski is Jewish, he's overrated, and he's full of shit.

If the really want you to eat an important shit sandwich, they will first serve you some of the nicest sandwiches they can make from easily recognized and loved ingredients. They will continue until the critical serving, then carefully, ever so carefully, having established your confidence, serve the stool well hidden in fluff and sauce.

The zionists play by controlling both sides of an dispute. That is getting tougher all the time, especially with the internet. Used to be that freedom of the press belonged exclusivly to the man with the press, but today we all have a world-wide press.

In order to play their dialectical tactic - the only one they know - they now require deep, well established plants that will betray the truth at the critical moment.

And thus it is.

but not to the point of knocking down the few "good guys" out there.

I still believe DBS IS one of those good guys. I don't agree with his occasional caustic tactics towards others that might be on the level, like John Kaminski. Kaminski is rather vehiment towards his fellow Jewish brothers. Does that mean he has an agenda? I don't know. I listen to everyone then make my own decision as to "whom" I should trust, regardless of what Smith or others say.

For me, the clue that DBS is not a "zionist tool" is that he doesn't appear to have the monetary funds, to be. If you examine the broadcast archives you'll notice that he used to broadcast several times a week. Now, he only broadcasts once a week, if that many.

His website is totally free and he encourages the listeners to research then share the information provided. He's literally begging the listener to prove him wrong. That doesn't sound like propaganda from a zionist shill or tool, in my humble opinion.

I agree with whitewraithe.

I don't want to spend too much time on this subject as I consider it to be not terribly productive.

I just want to point out that this conversation and many others like it is proof-positive of how important TRUST is and, as such, how important it is that

(1) you tell the TRUTH always, and

(2) you don't disparage anyone's credibility unless you have concrete evidence that they're lying - not just mistaken.

we're all in this together.

that doesn't mean harmony at all costs.

But, it does mean that you should tread carefully, especially when it comes to discrediting others who are trying hard to spread what they believe, rightly or wrongly, to be the truth.

Non-truth is not always malicious.

It's sometimes based on ignorance or illogical reasoning.

In that case, the answer is not recrimination and isolation, but tolerance and guidance.

this applies to both sides of the fence.

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"Money" has no value - people do.

TRUST is NOT a commodity - because it CANNOT BE TRADED!

No one else can use it once you lose it!

HOLD ON TO IT FOR DEAR LIFE!

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"Money" has no value - people do.

I was thinking about this today and my own process of 'wakening up' to Zionist Control.

At first I was quite skeptical and felt only insane people would think Jews/Zionists are behind events. Chomsky was useful because he provided documented evidence for the 'elite'.

However as it became obvious with the emergence of mainly Jewish Neo-Conservatives in the US, 9/11 and my discussions with other crypto Zionists and open Zionists on line, I started to 'wake up'. I realized that these people (the Zionists) are not 'interested in truth'. Their avoidence of rational discussions and ad hominiem attacks and smears started to 'expose' their 'hollow and empty' words. They were promoting obvious lies with nothing to back it up, and when questioned they had no rational defense of their views....so they attack the person, befog, distract, misinform etc.

Now I believe I have fully woken up and learning more and more everyday about them.

The Protocols of Elders of Zion and The International Jew by Henry Ford and many other books and documents are true and exposes them.

I believe they will fail and their crimes are destined to fail....we should prepare for the war and know exactly what they are doing so that we can know how to deal with them when the time comes.

We must prepare alternative currency..so that when they destroy the value of paper money we will be able to transcend their plan.

Q, I posted this "not very productive" line as I thought it was important for people to consider the "charges" which people smear Daryl Bradford Smith with. Our very own Masher seems to have made a career out of "exposing" Smith and I thought it was time for him to produce the goods for the group to evaluate. No surprise, he didn't.

Despite his flaws, Smith's show and interview files are an outstanding resource for waking people up to the truth of who is behind 9/11, the Federal Reserve, the War System, etc, etc. It is ridiculous that his audience remains as small as it is. His files at www.iamthewitness.com/ByPerson.html are one of the best ways for people to educate themselves and others about the history and nature of Zionism. The shows with Rafiq, Bollyn, Pidcock, Turner, Dickie, and Condit are essential.

Lots of well informed people still think Alex Jones, Mike Piper, and others are genuine. Smith raises important questions about them which people need to consider. The people who spend great energy attacking Smith are likewise suspect. Peace.

PS - In the following show Eustace Mullins discusses how John Kaminski sent people to rob and deceive him (also the farce of American Free Press)
www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmithInterviews_Mullins3.html

John Kaminski is a great writer against the NWO, though he's not aware of the Khazar connection.
Quasimodo - I found it. LSD was used by the Israelis to stun the egyptian forces to the ground during the 1967 6-day 'Blitzkrieg'. The info came to me in the form of a leaflet sent by CPA Book Publisher. It was in their book catalogue when they delivered one of the books I ordered from them. So, if this CPA (Christian Patriot Association) is a separate, independent source from yours, then we have a crosscheck and we can start taking this matter seriously. Yours was, as I recollect, the 'Memorandum to the President' by Issah Nakhleh, from the IHR. Can we safely assume the CPA Book Publisher did not have IHR or the 'Memorandum' as its source?
Next, a gem about Gog&Magog. I found an author from Armenia (South Caucasus ...) by the name GOGBERASHVILI, 'son' of Gogbera. 'Gog', like in your Gog&Magog, and 'Bera' like in Lavrenty Berya!

Cheers, h_w

I didn't mean your post -

Clearly, it's important - lots of people want to chime in, and since it IS an issue, airing the arguments is productive.

What I meant was - accusing people of lying without giving concrete proof of lies is not productive.

I recommend that people think carefully before they disparage someone's veracity - that applies to both those who criticize DBS and those who DBS criticizes.

I can't say why DBS doesn't have "a lot" of readers - but everything is relative.

It seems to me that he is pretty well known, and I am not surprised since he offers very valuable information at his site.

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"Money" has no value - people do.

" LSD was used by the Israelis to stun the egyptian forces to the ground during the 1967 6-day 'Blitzkrieg'. The info came to me in the form of a leaflet sent by CPA Book Publisher."

H_W, are you sure about this? Can you expand?

Is it actually possible for me to say that the israelis won the 67 6-day "war" against Egypt because of LSD?

This is the first time I've heard about this.

BTW H_W, I have mentioned Khazars to the israeli zionists-american zionists. One of two things always happen depending on the blogsite:

They ignore me
My posts get deleted

I'm sure I'm hitting a nerve, but I was actually expecting a "meatier" response.

I wonder how they will respond when I mention LSD....

But could you bring out more info on the subject?

Much appreciated.

I actually read the book by Michael Collins Piper, THE NEW JERUSALEM.

My uncle bought up several copies of this book and passed it around. I think I read it in the summer of 2004. I thought it was amazing. But I was still "asleep" back then. I believed what Piper was saying in the book, but it's message didn't quite knock me off my feet until I started looking into 9/11 conspiracies. I've read Henry Ford's INTERNATIONAL JEW, and that was a few years before reading Piper's book.

I am quite a "johnny come lately".

I have skimmed through many websites like, David Duke, National Vanguard, DBS, Save The Males, John Kaminski, Rense, Neturei Karta, Jews Against Zionism, Lawrence of Cyberia and so much more....

I've reached only one conclusion: I go with my gut instinct. No site can be perfect and hit every bulls eye, but I've learned a little from each. I just wish I had the time to read these sites and others more intensely. Sure some of them go over the top. Some articles are a bit too much. But I wouldn't condemn any of them because there really is a wealth of info worth keeping in your files that you will miss if you don't give the site a chance.

I'm aware that some people don't like the Neturei Karta. In my opinion, I think we need every bit of arsenal we can get to keep keenly aware and greatly informed of our zionist predators.

Besides, I think the Neturei Karta and others like them could be making a bigger difference against zionism that we might not realize.

I certainly don't want to burn any bridges unless I absolutely have to.

You might think I would have better things to do - very early on Easter Morning, like hiding Easter eggs, or pretending to be the Easter Bunny.

But heavy snow is actually falling outside and looks
a lot more like Christmas Eve than Easter Morning...

I still believe a hungry mind must be fed, no matter what odd season or holiday is upon us. So before I get back to History Worm on this subject, I'm sending you a rather exhaustive compendium of references to it, belonging to a thread started by qrswave, which has now so far picked up over 6,000 hits.

If you don't find plenty to chew on there, I'll be quite surprised, as it contains what is probably the most comprehensive discussion of this arcane subject of the "LSD War" that is available online, along with its' connection to the current
israeli / Egyptian flap over a recent television documentary.

I recommend that you review the whole thread, if possible.
You are certainly welcome to refer to it in any dispute which may arise with any or all of your nasty Zionist "predators".

So here's a little gift from the "Easter Bunny"...

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/814#comment-3835
Historical Review for History Worm

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/898#comment-4232
The 1967-60-Minute LSD WAR

Entire thread, with video, here:
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/898
Video: 1967 mass murder of unarmed Egyptians by israelis

This I gotta see......hehhehe.

Well I wish I could see!

Anyway, thanks for that great info. Actually, I should be working on a project that I hardly care about nor have the energy for and I will turn it in half-assed. Give me a bunny suit and eggs to hide anytime!

I'm glad for the snow. I hate hot humid summers.

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Well I will be ready on the cliff...waiting to pounce on the next idiot who brings up the '67 war.......

The response I get should be interesting.

Again...thanks.

The Easter Bunny forgot to leave you a very important
Easter Egg, which you will always be able to use for
ammo - to blow away anybody that tries to tell you
that it was the Arabs who started the '67 War...

This is a magical egg of wisdom which will always help you separate "myth" from "fact", as easy as you would separate an egg white from an egg yolk. And it's right out of a Zionists' own big mouth, so how can you ever go wrong, right ?
http://www.pmwatch.org/pmw/snakebite/Wars.html#_Toc521738399

("There goes Peter Cottontail -
Hoppin' down the Bunny Trail-
Hippity, Hoppity, Easter's on his way ...)

I have read this site many times before, due to it linking from other sites, but finally decided to make an acount and go from there. I have listened to Daryl and Michael Piper for over year now. I enjoy both of them although I feel i just hear complaining and whining from Daryl as of late and no decent guests on because he alienated them. Do not believe that ask Rev Ted Pike who Daryl tried to get to go after American Free Press, Eustace Mullins as well. Most of this started when Christopher Bollyn got hurt. Dary's brother is regular caller to RBN and Daryl himself used to call Piper's show. I think there are questions that arouse with all parties involved. Here they are.
For Daryl, why did you say on your last broadcast that you were in France because your wife had family when for well over a year you have said it is cause you do not want to be in the US cause of the danger it has. Why do you say one of the reasons David Duke is azionist is that he links to the site National Vangard, but yet you are heavily promoted on judicialinc which also links to them. Why do you say anyone who gets promoted on the news media is a zionist tool? But yet Christopher Bollyn appeared on there and you never mentioned him being an agent. You want us to go to the police and pass them 9/11 videos so we can be stalked by the police and followed by them, I mean honestly police are bad enough without them getting more reasons to follow you. Why do you suggest that paying taxes is a bad idea in Aaron Russo's movie, when you stop feeding the beast and they will not have money to do wars.
For Christopher Bollyn, who I met in Chicago and I believe is sincere, Why do you consistantly attack MCP when he wanted you too host his show? How come you never mention on air that you lived in Israel for sometime? How do you live in fancy area with very limited income?
For Michael Collins Piper, why do you side with Lisa and Victor Thorn when they clearly had motives to break people up and cause trouble. (I remember going to there site and seeing pycho sex Jack Blood headlines on it for several weeks, like that is going to get us traction) I believe Michael Collins Piper is a homosexual but what bearing does that have on us? I alos believe American Free Press is holding info back and hardly presents Israels involvement of 9/11. But I feel they may of been threatened when the spotlight went down. For all we know all three of these characters are working together. Or that Bollyn was threatened when he got beatup to take Piper and AFP down, Daryl may be filled with paranoi as his brother says he and he puts too much of his heart in it. Eric is the most suspicious of them all due to the fact we know nothing about the man, other than he was a computer programmer. I also feel Daryl is right on Alex Jones and many others but does it really take brains to figure out Jones is a fraud? I mean he makes how much per year and is on how many mainstream stations and everyone knows who he is. RBN is not perfect, but was recently taken down by GCN, because I believe RBN was getting to big and GCN could not have that. If you notice who left RBN, It was most of the zionist/ jewish deniers. Why dont we go with our gut and use our brains and trust no one until they give us outlining proof that we should trust them.

GREAT rant from Daryl Smith today
www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_8Apr2007.html!

Uncle Fester is now an internationally recognize force! More importantly is the info that DBS put out on Piper, Jones, and MASHER!

Take our world back is not Masher's site, but Poseidon's and Poseidon has never given me any reason to suspect that he's a "Crypto-Zionist."

In fact, Poseidon is one of the movement's most valuable members. His comments are always insightful and informative and THOROUGHLY supported by links and references to his sources.

I remain convinced that disparaging people who are working hard to increase awareness is not a good way to go about spreading the truth about zionism or any other diabolical conspiracy.

I agree that we should "Investigate everybody. No blind obedience. No exceptions."

But, accusations must not be thrown around without concrete evidence. Mere suspicion is not enough.

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Q, I concur with your opinion of Poseidon's work as far as it relates to 9/11 and the WTC takedown. I've not seen better. However, his charges against Smith, Bollyn and Hufschmidt at www.takeourworldback.com/short/hufschmid.htm are highly suspect.

He, like Maynard, seems to think that the "he said-she said" level questions about censorship at AFP are the issue that we should base our perceptions of people on. In my mind, it AIN'T a material LIE, but does smell of a pretty baseless campaign to discredit.

Poseidon says, "It turned out that none of Bollyn's work had been censored; only one article had failed to appear and that was because it missed a deadline." For the sake of argument, let's assume for a moment that this account is factual. Does Bollyn's claim that he was censored advance the Zionist agenda? Is that really the focus and sum total of Bollyn's work: AFP sucks? Is it not much more plausible that discrediting Bollyn will aid the Zionist criminals? Posiedon, also slams Hufschmidt for failing to admit that Bollyn is lying about this picayune point. Bollyn continues to assert that Piper is lying and that he was censored. I gotta ask WTF?

Poseidon runs out the "damning" fact that Daryl Smith is "hiding" his "real" name. Posiedon lays the stepdad's name side by side with his "fake name" (birthname - the one he now uses)? My old man reverted to his birth name and dropped Grannie's second husband's name. I rake him over the coals come the holidays. Again, WTF?

Similarly, and as pointed out by Smith, Po says, "It is always possible that Eric Hufschmid is correct and he is one of the few honest Zionist exposers, but his theory implies that the Zionists' criminal network includes so many people such as Germar Rudolf, Ernst Zundel, David Irving, David Duke, Michael Collins Piper, Victor Thorn, Lisa Guliani, James Fetzer, Mike Berger, Jim Hoffman, Gerard Holmgren, Wayne Madsen, Kurt Nimmo, Webster Tarpley, Frank Whalen, Willis Carto, Christopher Petherick, John Stadtmiller, Dylan Avery, Mike Rivero, Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, etc. On grounds of economy, it would seem more logical that most of these people are genuine." Does that last sentence ring true?

Po is an exhaustively detailed writer on the WTC, and yet says "Aw, shucks, they're probably all ok." Everything we know about the Zionist criminals says that they use DECEPTION, have plenty of money, MONOPOLIZE ALL MEDIA, HAVE PEOPLE AT GATEKEEPING POSITIONS, and plan LONG RANGE. Po, that's a real WTF number.

Why does' Posiedon pour forth such a sea of dubious accusations? It seems beneath him. This hit piece is in SUCH STARK CONTRAST to his other work that it leaves me quite unsettled. Maybe my bullshit detector is broken; maybe it ain't.

At his site DBS wonders if I, Fester, am genuine. I laughed out loud, but am honored. He can call me an asshole 7 days a week if he feels like. I won't let the petty bullshit sidetrack me.

I hope that that's the basis of Posieden's odd screed, but, again, his other work is so good, THE CONTRAST makes me stop.

MASHER poses good questions on the "what was burning for weeks' question, but is clearly a crap-flinging monkey as Smith suggests (Last time MASH, if you got FACTS lay em on the table and I WILL HUMBLY APOLOGIZE - although you are a schmuck for gumming up the investigation with your hard-to-get routine.)

Q, in closing, I COMPLETELY CONCUR with your opinion about Po's contributions to the site. Repeat, I concur 100%. But this other stuff has a very hollow ring, and do wonder. Peace. Fester

www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_8Apr2007.html

Surprise, Surprise, & Happy Easter Bunnie, Uncle Fester !
Small Woild, Ain't It ? And everbody always loves a good bedtime bunny story, especially on Easter, right ?

-Looks like you left a telltail trail of little brown jelly beanies
all around the bunnie yard of that rustic little farmhouse in France. Congratulations on your penetration of the goy pen.

You are now traveling in the fast company of three of the
most trustworthy and universally distrusted instigators of the dubious and indubitable "Troof" Movement. As a matter of FACT, I just had my daily Troof Movement an hour ago, so you'll know at least that I'm not completely fully of it.

You are, I take it, somewhat familiar with my aptitude for ferreting out da "Troof", so I thought you might appreciate
my latest "funky find".... ( talk about a ricochet effect )....
Who, in your edumacated opinion, do you think might conceivably be the illustrious progenitor of this following
kernel of "Troof" ?( cited on Smith's Page, of all places ?):
http://www.takeourworldback.com/short/hufschmid.htm

Maybe you ain't been around the stump quite as many times over here as I have, Uncle Fess, or you would've stepped on
a lot more little brown bunnie beanies, and you would know
just why I've chosen not to trample on any more of late:
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/586#comment-2854
( Gatekeepers and Judas Goats )
You will no doubt notice this next link posted in that particular dispatch, which more or less reveals our culprit:
http://www.takeourworldback.com/short/hufschmid.htm
Same as above, no ?

Here's some more, help yourself to the whole mess:
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/36
( 9/11 whitewash - a contest of wills )
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/586
A 9/11 Gov’t Conspiracy? ‘I Wouldn’t Be Surprised,’

Here's an old thread like the one you just landed on,
linked to by our surreptitious "suspect" on previous threads:
http://www.erichufschmid.net/InvestigateTheTruthSeekers.htm
("worthless" and "connected to the criminal network" )

If you, or Daryl Smith, or Eric Hufschmid, or Bollyn, or even the perpetrator here in question, for that matter, can weed your way through this mountain of bunnie beans,
MORE POWER TO YA, UNCLE FESTER !

BTW, Figure out who it is yet ?

Been There, Done Dat !......
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/586#comment-2918
Scapegoats or Judas Goats?
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/36#comment-210
OK, You, Wit da Trident, Already

WOULD I LIE TO YA BABY,
WOULD I LIE TO YA BABY ?

Quas, I confess to being a tad overwhemmed. I thought it was the Dago Red but I may have been eating too many of these bunny beans of which you speak. Either case, I found it hard to clearly follow and you waxed a little coy for your bald headed friend.

After I posted, I was aksing myself. If the criminals, and these evil roaches definitely plan their disinfo/stifle-ing campaigns in advance and with great thoroughness, wanted to control as site such as this, wouldn't they send it someone who is able to establish themselves as an "unimpeachable" source? I'm not there yet, but will chew that cud for a while. A MASHER-style poo-flinger wouldn't be able to do a big job if required, but beard, trident, and nymphs might command.

Help me if I've lost the thread. The red was a little raw and I had no help. Bastard!

Sorry Unk, I didn't know you and Q already dug up all that dirt - right before I dropped all my little bunnie beanies.

You pose some intriguing theories...My advice:
ease up a little on that Dago Red - and watch out
for that ponerologic Jadczyk reticulus -
http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/
Signs of the Times - Alternative news for Sun, 08 Apr 2007

-and keep an eye peeled for those -
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/36#comment-190
-Zionist agents !

excerpt from above -
[ A good thread with in-depth analysis of the Christopher Bollyn case can be found at the Signs of The Times forum:
http://signs-of-the-times.org/signs/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2887&p=1
This is quite essential reading for those trying to understand what has been happening with Bollyn.
For more background from another perspective, it is worth downloading some of Piper's shows here...]- end of excerpt

Troofully,
from Da 'Bunnie Man'

Quas, I'm reworking the Red recipe. It'll be a Dayglo Red from here out. A 50-50 antifreeze berry blend AFTER masceration.

That other jug has left me tottering and bedazzled. I got visions of the Masher shapeshifting, Poseidon booming and demons of the deep rising to consume me. If I lay into the Dayglo HARD, they may bite but spit me out. Shouldn'ta partied the liver away so young. Didn't know I was gonna need for battle.

Good stuff from Sign O' Der Times. Not a bad case for questioning Bollyn's legitermancy. I'd like to think I'd still be venomous enough to throw some verbal shit at the HSA occifers post-tasering. People said they thought that was suspect, but, Poseidon's beard, if they've already jumped on yer head and lit ya up wid der taser for fuck all, why not blaze away? I don't think calling the local cops was a mistake and like what Smith & Huffer say about trying to educate the cops. Firemen too.

Biking around Europe...? Kibbutz time...? Dishy wife #2...? My only reservation has always been how he gets such good stuff. A real question, but I still think the "charges" against Smith, Bollyn, and Huffer have a real slapped up feel. Plus ya good MASHER hooting from the cheap seats: not very convincing.

What nymph's spell old Po's under, I do not know. Too goddamn much beans, flatus, and gut work!

Poor Festerin' Fester - I hope you didn't miss my major pone ( as in corn- ) of contention, that the entity in question must indeed be "under the spell" of a certain ponerologic Jadczyk reticulus. Where did you ever think this Political Ponerology crawled out from to begin with ? thus, we have ---"Ponerosity"
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/1021#comment-4545

-and with that deeply disturbing thought in mind, it's time for a Day-glo nightcap. I would like to share with you a sea -going oracle of sorts, from an old 'Salty Dog', an infamous lost 3rd verse from the one about the "16 Vestal Virgins", remember ?

-I said "I'm home on shore leave"...
But in truth, we were both at sea...
So I took her by the looking glass,
And I forced her to agree... I said -
"Now you must be that mermaid,
Who took Old Neptune for a ride !"
But she smiled at me so sweetly, ( sweetly )...
You know my anger straightway died !

And so it was, that later...and later...
As the miller told his tale...
That her face, at first, just ghostly,
Turned a Whiter -Shade of Pale.

Evidently the lyrics are:

"But she smiled at me so sadly"

http://www.procolharum.com/w/w9901.htm

But sadly only played in concert or on a live DVD. I only have the studio version.

DBS / EH have dubbed me as a "Crypto-Zionist" who engages in "deception".

http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_8Apr2007.html

They are also suspicious of Fester for making a tongue-in-cheek comment. (DBS sometimes refers to James Fetzer as "Uncle Fester".)

Another poster concluded that I am one of Laura K.J.'s "inner circle" because I used the term "ponerology".

http://www.nolajbs.net/forum/index.php?topic=7946.0

(Apparently it is necessary to register to view that post.) I'm not part of anyone's circle; I just think there is some sense in the theory of a pathocracy in which psychopaths rise to positions of power. Note how DBS promotes the alternative view that Bush is an idiot.

According to a poster here

http://groups.google.com/group/swnet.politik/browse_thread/thread/abeda4fd38f78b36/4e25e5ef01a55685

... my site - and two others shown on CNN's Paula Zahn Now: Iamthewitness and JewsDidWTC - are all "run by Jews".

This youtube is a must see! It includes audio of Piper's recent accusations against Bollyn.

http://youtube.com/?v=8XImPMZ_KLc

Although Trond Halvorsen is mistaken on some points - he thinks my TOWB site is "run by Jews" and that Mike Piper is Jewish - a lot of his conclusions are correct. But he would be better off talking about "Zionists" or "Jewish extremists". The 3 URLs are shown at about 1:10 into the video. As for capitalising the leading letter in each word, that was a CNN / Time Warner creation.

I hadn't listened to Piper's show for some time, and was nearly ready to give Bollyn & Hufschmid the benefit of the doubt. But Piper's latest explosive charges against Bollyn opens up a whole new can of worms. Go to the above youtube URL, click on "more" to view trondh's description, and click on the link PlanetQuo Radio Interviews Piper Hit Piece on Bollyn to hear a longer version of Piper's charges against Bollyn, which he describes as "very disturbing" and "frightening" information. Or find it at the above Google groups link.

Piper says American Free Press had suspected Bollyn for a long time, and in fact MCP himself suspected Bollyn to be an intelligence operative soon after they met. In Piper's The Judas Goats (Chapter 10), he recounts how he correctly identified Roy Bullock as an ADL operative. It turned out that Willis Carto had already been independently informed, by Dr Edward R Fields of The Thunderbolt newspaper.

American Free Press hired a top private investigator, who was dispatched to investigate Christopher Bollyn. In the preliminary investigation they found that Bollyn was receiving money from overseas, and that he was being visited regularly by an individual or individuals bearing license plates that cannot be traced.

The PI went on to report, "This case contains many unanswered questions. ... As your investigator, I do not recommend you proceed further. I have discovered the distinct possibility of involvement by intelligence people of a higher order. Briefly stated, there are certain risks to be considered before proceeding. The target (Bollyn) is spending more money than he is capable of earning." Piper says that Bollyn is "being protected at the highest level."

Piper makes the point that Bollyn's second wife Helje Kaskel is apparently of Jewish origin; "Kaskel" is a Jewish name. His first wife was Israeli, and apparently Israeli intelligence to boot. Piper also claims to have information, from a "reliable source", that CB dosn't pay tax.

I was coming round to the view that the Piper / Bollyn split was due to something more trivial like personality differences, but there seems to be much more to it than that. It is possible that Piper, all the rest at AFP, David Duke, Germar Rudolf, Ernst Zundel, Mike Rivero, etc are all plants, and have somehow managed to do an excellent job posing as "anti-Zionists". And they were either ADL moles or CIA operatives long before 9/11, or the criminals somehow got to them and managed to recruit them all after they had been genuine truth-seekers and justice-seekers for years, without any of them falling out with Zionism and talking.

And if EH/CB/DBS are telling the truth, then Piper must have made up the story about the private investigator, Bollyn receiving money from overseas, the untraceable license plates, the material he writes in his books, etc. That still leaves all the many irregularities and anomalies concerning Bollyn and Hufschmid, their connections to Israel and Zionists, and history of deception, such as lies about "heavily-armed agents" wearing "body armor" who turned out to be regular traffic cops whose day-to-day activities generally consisted of nothing more than booking drunk drivers.

If Piper and Makufka are telling the truth, then Bollyn made up the story about Piper having a gay lover who is his ADL handler, and mixed good and bad information when he (or whoever it was) wrote his articles.

I think the simplest theory is the best. I am now more convinced than ever that Bollyn, Hufschmid and Smith are intelligence operatives. They've shot their bolt.

So Po, would you cast Eustace Mullins in the disinfo bin? He thinks AFP is a rats' nest?

I tend to think that the Zionist M.O. is to have lots of people in place to do their work (see US government). By having lots of shills in place early, they create the sense that they have numbers.

Thanks for the links. I'll run em down.

I don't know about Eustace. But I know when he was interviewed by DBS, people were accusing DBS of putting words in his mouth.

Po, I don't think any reasonable person could listen to the DBS-Eustace Mullin interviews and truthfully say that "Smith is putting words in Mullin's mouth." That doesn't happen and Mullins would stand for it or show up to do a total of SIX shows with Daryl. If it weren't for the specificity of the charge, it would be worthy of our valiant MASHER. I think this is the link to the show in question www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmithInterviews_Mullins16Dec2006.html. Po, people here respect your work, do you really stand by that claim?

I did the links you offered and the Piper report on Bollyn doesn't get me hot. Unnameable source says Bollyn's spending beyond his means...wife's name is a combo of Jewish parts...and other little splinters.

Can you or these people document a material lie (I say that thinking it somehow sounds like the proper legalese)?

Did Bollyn, Smith, or Hufschmid say X paid Y to do Z? Or did they say X was the cause of building falling down when you've got evidence that it is a knowing deception?

This other stuff is really just CAT PISS and, as I said to Q, is such a qualitative drop below your other work that it arouses curiosity.

My broken record still says that Smith, Bollyn, & Huf maintain a sharp and unwaverfing focus on the bad guys.

If previously dauntless foes of Zionism such as Piper are investing lots of time and energy trying to tear them down, then they are almost certainly bad guys. Mullins concurs with Smith. People should listen to what he says (AND how he says it) for themselves.

We all know that the Straussians/Machevilli types, the Corporate "need to fill the void in my heart with money" types, the "End Time"rs, the Zionists, etc. are destoying the world. What most people don't seem to realize is that GOOD PEOPLE TRYING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE are also destroying the world.

Instead of working together, we accuse either other of being a GateKeeper, CIA/Mossad agent, or just plain idiots.

DBS and people who hate DBS both fit into this category. DBS thinks he is a genius and knows everything, exactly how it happened, and anyone who can't see that is definitely a Zionist plant. And the "good people" who are against him accuse him of being a plant. See the viscious circle? Yes: he is a know-it-all-loves-the-smell-of-his-own-a$$ jerkoff, but he is OUR jerkoff. He is on our side, so is Alex Jones, all the bloggers here, Ryan Dawson, Nader, Kuchinich, etc.

Yes, every one of them is wrong about something or doesn't know the truth about something. Instead of shunning them, we need to share our resources and education and discuss.

Loose Change is almost the worst 9/11 (legitimate)documentary I've seen. But those kids aren't government plants, they were trying to help. (Although, I'm pretty sure the government has helped promote it...) If only they allowed input from other sources and collaberated more.

Anyways, I didn't mean to write a novel, just please people---leave the accusations in the back of your mind and try to work with people until you are totally sure they don't care about individual freedoms and the truth.

PEACE AND SOLIDARITY

Embracing substance in a soundbite era www.panaceamedia.org

Pan, I share your feeling but not all your positions or your conclusion.

We can go back to 1913 and the Federal Reserve Act and figure out who the bad guys are. Watch The Money Masters. We got Honest Abe, TJ, and several other Dead Presidents in our corner. FOLLOW THE MONEY, ya?

Henry Ford knew big bidness and big money and he, like the aforementioned Dead Presidents, tried to shake awake the dozing peeps. You got the Bankers dead nuts on the CREATION of the Commie Rev/Cold War. Hell, go read Smedley Butler. Time to kick them the hell out like Abe and the good guys tried.

Anyways, the warm fuzzy, lets love all of the troofers is the kind of open, trusting, suicidally uncritical approach that is guaranteed to keep us over the barrel and howling.

In January 2006, Eric Hufschmid said that "99% of truth seekers are somehow connected to the criminal network", and "are worthless".

http://www.erichufschmid.net/InvestigateTheTruthSeekers.htm

Within months of this, he was observed to have various lists of people who were allegedly part of the "criminal network" or were "Crypto-Zionists", including, but not necessarily limited to the following:

Germar Rudolf, Ernst Zundel, David Irving, David Duke, Michael Collins Piper, Victor Thorn, Lisa Guliani, James Fetzer, Mike Berger, Jim Hoffman, Gerard Holmgren, Wayne Madsen, Kurt Nimmo, Webster Tarpley, Frank Whalen, Willis Carto, Christopher Petherick, John Stadtmiller, Dylan Avery, Mike Rivero, Alex Jones, Jeff Rense.

In 2007, Hufschmid has a theory that anyone who questions the veracity of Bollyn, Smith or Hufschmid must be a "Crypto-Zionist". However, Hufschmid himself has already questioned the veracity of all the individuals listed above and 99% of truth seekers. He either has to make Bollyn, Smith and Hufschmid a special case, or, by his own logic, that would make him a Super-Crypto-Zionist!

In the summer of 2006, Eric Hufschmid and Christopher Bollyn were supposedly suckered by Sam Danner, a fantasist who wanted his bit of glory. Danner claimed to have seen an object resembling a Global Hawk hit the Pentagon. It seems that Danner was merely telling Hufschmid what Hufschmid wanted to hear. Long after most people - e.g. Russell Pickering, Mike Piper - had seen through the hoax, Hufschmid and Bollyn were trying to keep the story alive by concocting more evidence-free claims about Sam being intimidated by sunglass-wearing Feds in a large black government SUV who rammed Sam's car. Sam's son Matthew had the sad duty of setting the record straight by releasing voicemail audio that proved Sam was lying.

In August 2006, just as the Danner hoax was in its death throes, Bollyn came up with a new stunt to promote himself as a "hard-working, genuine anti-Zionist feared by the criminals". He would call the police out to his home under some pretext about a "suspicious car", and provoke them into arresting him. As evidence of this, his daughter warned that the police were going to arrest him.

He started out by claiming he was Tasered before being handcuffed; in later versions his story changed to "Tasered whilst restrained in 'cuffs". It's hardly the sort of detail one would forget.

Bollyn was caught in another lie: He claimed the three police officers who arrested him were "heavily-armed agents" from an "undercover tactical unit", "wearing body armor" ... a "covert gang-suppression unit". In fact, all three of them were regular traffic cops. Officer Tim Stoy had been given a DUI enforcement award for making 25 arrests, Officers Michael Barber and Darin Felgenhauer had received "Honorable Mention" awards relating to DUI, and Michael Barber had a Police Dept. Meritorious Police Duty Award relating to Hurricane Katrina. The Bollyn story takes a battering when he claims to have been put in an unmarked car by the 3 cops who arrested him, and then he suddenly ends up in a squad car. In subsequent revisions, Bollyn has a mysterious Jewish cop lurking unseen in the background. He says his brother bailed him out, but made him walk home. Somehow, Bollyn knows that the police are "ADL-trained".

These self-promotion stunts related to problems Bollyn was having with his credibility at American Free Press. The trouble was that he would mix some lies in with truthful information.

In Bollyn's article about the molten steel, he lied about "seismic spikes", and about Peter Tully or Mark Loizeaux saying where the molten steel was found. The Palisades seismographs have one version with a compressed x-axis and expanded y-axis version, and Bollyn tried to pretend the 50-second period of relatively low amplitude disturbances following the collapses was the 10-second collapse time, and the 10-second period of waves twenty times the amplitude was a sinister 2-second spike at the start of the collapse. The purpose of this was to discredit himself and cast doubt upon reports of molten steel.

Hufschmid was caught lying about AFP "censoring" Bollyn's articles. When confronted by Piper, Hufschmid admitted that he'd let his AFP subscription lapse. So how was he getting his information - from Bollyn? It looks like the "censor" claim was a stunt devised by the two of them.

The problem AFP had with Bollyn was that it would not be economical for someone to have to verify all of his claims. Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus. So he was sacked.

After falling out with Piper, Bollyn reported that Piper had a gay lover who was his ADL handler. Has he evidence for that, and can anything Bollyn says ever be taken seriously?

Daryl Smith slams John Kaminski for being a "racist" who is too obssessed with "Jews" and Talmudic supremacism. But Smith has been observed calling for Israel to be carpet-bombed until there is a crater so deep it would take an explorer team weeks to get to the bottom. Not just "wiped off the map", but wiped out!

Apart from their actions, there is all the circumstantial evidence: connections to Israel, top Zionist media moguls, and alphabet soup intel agencies. Individually, a snippet of information such as Bollyn appearing to be spending more than he could earn isn't very incriminating. Collectively, the data confirms the suspicions arising from their behavior. The Smith / Hufschmid / Bollyn setup is a modern-day Deguello operation, partly designed to discredit reports of incriminating evidence, and partly as a means of manipulating and dividing the truth movement, and obtaining information on individuals such as e-mail addresses.

If the only evidence the defense counsel can muster is a supposed statement made by a guest on Smith's show, I don't believe this can make a material difference to the outcome. The surprising thing is that some truthers seem to have the same sort of blind spot over the evidence against HufSmithBollyn Judas Goats, Inc, that Israel's supporters do over its crimes.

People, apologies for not having the technical formatting skills to make a proper response. This thing of Posiedon's is a real eye opener for me.

If you read Po's post, you should be able to see where I break it.

His first point is one of his standard mischaracterizations. These occur when he discusses Smith, Bollyn, and Hufschmid. Otherwise he's fine. He says that "Hufschmid has a theory that anyone who questions the veracity of Bollyn, Smith or Hufschmid must be a "Crypto-Zionist." What DBS et al do is criticize (harshly) those who ignore the Zionist element in 911. They also criticize those who promote nonsensical ideas. They do not claim to have the whole truth and admit to making mistakes. Po, you ought to capable of seeing this point and not making so much noise getting it wrong.

Regarding the Sam Danner story, I need to look into that. Does believing that something other than a 757 hit the Pentagon make me a Zionist tool too? You say Bollyn was desperate for a "new stunt to promote himself as a 'hard-working, genuine anti-Zionist feared by the criminals.'" What other 911 stories of Bollyn's have you exposed as fraudulent? The crowd here at WUFYS would be all over it if Bollyn's stories were falling apart. Please share. I love stunts.

Your third point is that Bollyn is lying about his arrest. You claim he's changed his story. I'll go back and listen for this sometime. I ask the audience: does referring to the car as a "squad car" and later calling it an "unmarked car" reveal him as an agent? Are the officers' "honorable mentions" and "DUI enforecment awards" supposed to sway opinion? Bollyn sounded shaken up when he spoke about the event and I encourage people to listen to him. Maybe he's not legit, he wouldn't be the first, yet you are famous for wanting to give everyone the benefit of the doubt.

Regarding the molten steel and seismic spikes, you say he "lied" and the purpose was "to discredit himself and cast doubt upon reports of molten steel."
I would not be shocked to learn that he’s made mistakes in details regarding the WTC collapse, but you say “the purpose of this was to discredit himself and cast doubt upon reports of molten steel.” That's the single most idiotic statement I have encountered in the last 5 years. Do you really expect readers to believe that the effect of Bollyn's work and his appearances on www.iamthewitness.com radio show is do DISCREDIT the molten metal evidence?Who’s turned away from the 9/11 story because of Bollyn’s work? You're losing me here Fishman.

Next point is that "AFP censorship lie" tarbaby you can't shake. Hufscmid was NOT caught lying. You ASSERT that it was a lie. What he did was rely on Bollyn's version of events and then ADMIT that he had relied on Bollyn. But you get real fabulous and detect “a stunt devised by the two of them.” You seem to fixate on a whole lot of chickenshit and just keep chucking it hoping it'll stick or wear people out. The FACTS are that Bollyn hasn’t changed his story and he’s backed up by Eustace Mullins. Why don’t you come out and tell us that Eustace Mullins is full of shit. Then you can do Ezra Pound and Henry Ford.

I'm reluctant to continue because I think the you need to answer that last question for the WUFYS record. To go on and respond to your nonsense about Piper's gonadaltropism, the Kaminski thing, and your remarkably Zio-pundit-esque summation for the pleebs would, I now believe, only muddy things which is what I believe secretly desire.

Maybe I've had a long day and am off target bearded fishmonger. It's quite possible.

But, don't do the MASH on me: expose Eustace Mullins as a "zionist agent" for me and I'll buy your otherwise limp and sweaty assertions about Bollyn, DBS, and Hufschmid. You tried once before saying that DBS had "put words in Mullin's mouth." That one was HORSESHIT as will be confirmed by an indpendent listen to the file. I linked it earlier.

Tired. I really need to take a shower.

PS - DBS has an interview with the makers of The Money Masters at www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Money-Masters-10-Apr2007.html

Here is a quick but FACTUALLY CORRECT transcription of an interview with Eustace Mullins on DBS' 9/10/06 show (www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmithInterviews_Mullins3.html).

This begins at about the 10:20 mark:

DBS: What we’ve discovered, Eustace, is that many of the people supposedly exposing the truth are actually wolves in sheeps’ clothing.

Mullins: Absolutely. I learned that fifty years ago…

DBS: This recent thing with Mr. Piper. It looks like they’re setting him up to be in a leadership position.

Mullins: That’s what it looks like. They’re promoting him. He’s turning out about a book a year now.

DBS: A lot of it seems to be a rehash of your work.

Listen for a few minutes. See if Mullins is being used as Poseidon asserts. See how he agrees with Smith's claims about AFP, Piper, Kaminski et al.
The other interviews are at www.iamthewitness.com/ByPerson.html

PS - For the record, here's what I left off from the previous post. The "evidence" with a few quick comments:

Poseidon: The problem AFP had with Bollyn was that it would not be economical for someone to have to verify all of his claims. Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus. So he was sacked.

Fester: That’s the Piper/AFP version of this not very essential point. Mullins says AFP and Piper stink. So does Bollyn. What you got to show Mullins is no good. If it is nothing, then why such a fever to push this tiny ball of dung.

Poseidon: After falling out with Piper, Bollyn reported that Piper had a gay lover who was his ADL handler. Has he evidence for that, and can anything Bollyn says ever be taken seriously?

Fester: If you listen to the link you sent (http://youtube.com/?v=8XImPMZ_KLc) which you label “a MUST SEE,” people will hear Piper respond to that accusation by joking that it would be news to the guy he supposedly is in a relationship with. Piper’s response clearly suggests that he IS gay although he doesn’t admit to the relationship in question. Why would you tack on another “can we really take Bollyn’s word for anything” dig when the info you refer people to doesn’t make your case. You’re clever fellow Po and I guess you think the rest of us ain’t gonna bother to check it out. WTF?

Posiedon: Daryl Smith slams John Kaminski for being a "racist" who is too obssessed with "Jews" and Talmudic supremacism. But Smith has been observed calling for Israel to be carpet-bombed until there is a crater so deep it would take an explorer team weeks to get to the bottom. Not just "wiped off the map", but wiped out!

Fester: Wrong again. DBS slammed Kaminski because he thought he was trying to get him in trouble with the Hollercuss laws in France. He does the same thing in the Mullins interview. A legitimate fear. You entirely misrepresented this concern of Daryl’s in an earlier post. The youtube video you called "must see," is the Paula Zahn-shits-her-knickers-over-911 show. Piper's comments are tacked on at the end. The clip is titled “Jew Job!” which is the kind of rash, racist, inaccurate work that DBS, Bollyn, and Hufschmid consistently take pains to avoid AND condemn. WTF Posiedon? You aren’t making much sense for a guy who knows his shit. Why are you busting ass to present the “evidence” when a quick, impartial look at your sources undoes you. You tink veer all leedle sheep ofer eer in dis goypen?

Poseidon: Apart from their actions, there is all the circumstantial evidence: connections to Israel, top Zionist media moguls, and alphabet soup intel agencies. Individually, a snippet of information such as Bollyn appearing to be spending more than he could earn isn't very incriminating. Collectively, the data confirms the suspicions arising from their behavior. The Smith / Hufschmid / Bollyn setup is a modern-day Deguello operation, partly designed to discredit reports of incriminating evidence, and partly as a means of manipulating and dividing the truth movement, and obtaining information on individuals such as e-mail addresses.

Fester: “Collectively” my and your sorry ass! Piper saying the not-to-be-named private dick said, "risky" three, no wait FOUR, no, Oh my God, Five times doesn't mean a goddamn thing. Your “data” doesn’t prove jack shit and I no longer feel compelled to address you as a legitimate truthseeker.

Posiedon: If the only evidence the defense counsel can muster is a supposed statement made by a guest on Smith's show, I don't believe this can make a material difference to the outcome. The surprising thing is that some truthers seem to have the same sort of blind spot over the evidence against HufSmithBollyn Judas Goats, Inc, that Israel's supporters do over its crimes.

Fester: Po, what one “supposed statement” are you referring to? You’re counting on people who trust you to trust you when you go after Smith. Whence that fetid fecal fragrance of Ziopunditry as he sums up and ladles for the helpless goyim?

Great One, don't trouble yourself with this load of crap. Focus on Mullins. Expose him. Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus. Help us out here, duuuuuuuuuude!

I cannot seem to figure just why you don't seem to see the ors rowing Mr Smiths boat. Now Fester you seem to have a fairly good familiarity with the Mp3's of Mr Smith do you not? Well then how about telling us some of the odd aspects of his show. Forget the content and focus on the Engineering behind the show is there anything missing? Is there any not right things about the way the show is produced?? Have a look or a listen to a few see if you can guess what is NOT present and should be. Sorry on this cryptic path but this is one complicated lier we are talking about. So for now just try to figure out the missing element to Mr Smith's little podcast thing.

I See a man doing whatever he and his buddies can to discredit the 9/11 movement with whatever means they can afford. I cannot trust someone that is not man enough to stand up and be counted. If Daryl Smith ever hopes to do anything to help he is going to have to unmask. Now will Daryl ever do a video statement to at least confirm that he is not a spook? No probably not. Now i don't care if he can quote the whole Ziopedia and knows the whole story. If you cannot have the respect for your listeners to be up front about your identity then just WHO would be RETARDED enough to follow a ghost (and a confirmed lier if you care to look) into the worst mess of liers and cheats ever to be on this planet. Well as of March of 06' i am not even interested in stuff even REMOTELY connected to either DBS or Eric. Bollyn is after my time but he is just as connected to DBS and Eric.

Why folks continue to go to his URL after consuming even half of it is a mystery to me the info abounds elsewhere and in a much more helpful ways than the witness pages with all there useless rhetoric and general bad taste slogans so salted throughout.

Ask yourself this Fester Does DBS DO anything helpful? Does he give you any real help or is he a glorified baby sitter of his flock? Sowing just enough crap to discredit REAL 9/11 help from getting traction. A game i might add that Alex Jones is pretty good at.

How much time have you wasted on the skipping record that is DBS? A fair amount if you have the whole lot of his shows under your belt. Is this guy giving out any as he puts it "Ground shaking news"? News that others have not broken for him? i bet not. So just why is DBS still going after all the expense and trouble? Still racking up a monster phone bill to continue his game? A international Long distance bill of conference calls that he pays for HOW?

Where does Mr Smith and Hufschmid acquire the funding for there information sessions?

Oh and one more to ponder

Where did the Ben freedman MP3 come from? Does Daryl or Eric have the two vinyl records? Who did the encode on them? (all Q: Daryl will not answer)

First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

MASHER boy, I'll make it simple for you as you're a busy youngster with only one free hand:

When someone exposes DBS, Bollyn, or Hufschmid in a material lie, I will distrust them. If someone, not you of course, can show that they are shifting attention away from bad guys and onto innanities (see Masher/Poseidon), then I will distrust them. Or if someone can show that they are attacking good guys for bad reasons (see Masher/Poseidon), then I'll distrust them.

So far, nothing of the kind. Just a WHOLE lot of hot air and bullshit which always indicates a dung heap.

You should of taken your Uncle Fester's advice. Too late. You best get yourself some pencils and a tin cup.

Follow that CIA scum bag. I could care less. As to your defense of DBS Well i have said my piece about you. So Fume on Fester ol Boy because as long as you look to the shady Mr Smith for guidance you will just have to look stupid for i cannot stop this from going down. DBS is and will forever be a lier for saying the things he had said about me. And honestly if you cannot see the Evil in the man's ways then you are just going to have to learn the HARD way.

Because Masher1 is surely tired of talking about the Asshole Daryl B. Smith and his show shot full of lies. I will now end the DBS crap with this: I will never trust ANYTHING Smith or Hufschmid say. Nothing they say can be trusted. All of the info they use is easily obtained from MUCH more CREDIBLE sources than Smith or any of his gang. Look for the OTHER voices The PEACEFUL voices that will help you.

It's Your Brain. Are you going to let Daryl B. Smith spit all over it without defending yourself?

First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

I don't think it matters whether he and his friends are genuine truth seekers or not. By their fruits you shall know them. If someone points out Zionist crimes and criminality that is all that matters. Whether that someone is then also married to Rupert Murdock does not matter in the least because they have brought evidence and proved that the Zionists are criminals.

This does not mean we follow them in everything, we simply accept the truth based on its merit.

We reject untruths.

As far as building a coherent anti-Zionist movement is concerned, I think Islam is already there....the Zionist myths are simply exposed by Islam. All it takes is for Muslims to unite and to live by their deen (Islamic way of life), and by doing so they will destroy the power of the Zionists.

Being divided and deluded by Zionist fantasies only empowers the enemy. Unity can only be built on a unified goal/aim and a unified and broad methodology all of which already exist in Islam.

I have been reading recently about the history of Islam in Andalusia (the Iberian Peninsula), and the pattern is writ large for this century. Whenever Muslims were divided and immersed in the life of the world, drinking wine, building palaces, hugely taxing people, fighting with other Muslims (in short not following Islam), their enemies destroyed them and killed them. Whenever they lived by Islam they were given power. It really is that simple. Zionists represent a challenge from God, either Muslims abandon Islam and become enslaved, killed and controlled by Zionists, or they embrace Islam, live by it, love it and become a means of building a strong Muslim nation which destroys the Zionists. The choice is ours.

is my friend?

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My enemy's enemy

is my friend?
oldranger | Wed, 2007-04-11 19:20
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What if "My enemy's enemy is ALSO my enemy?"

For example there I have 3 enemies:

Enemy A
Enemy B
Enemy C

And Enemy B is the Enemy of Enemy A

From the statement "My enemy's enemy is my friend", would that mean Enemy B now becomes my friend?!!!

What about Enemy C, who is the sly observer, waiting for my enemies and myself to destroy each other?!!!!

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This is getting confusing!

Can't we all just get along?!

Can't we all just be friends?!

;-)

There might be a slight possibility that DBS suggested Eustace Mullins' mind in some way as to sway him into saying certain things he didn't believe, but Piper's claim that DBS "put words in his mouth" is simply false. Mullins is an old man, but there's no indication that he's not still in complete control of his senses. He knows what he says.

Just for the record, it seems Fester missed Piper's show on January 8:

Eustace Mullins on Mark Lane, Carto/AFP, Mike Piper
DarylBradfordSmith_Eustace-Mullins-16Dec2006.mp3 (16-18 min)

Mike Piper pissed off at TFC after Eustace Mullins interview
20061220_Wed_Piper.mp3 (16:08 - 27:00)

Eustace Mullins playing two sides - Piper, Carto, Lane no longer bad
20070108_Mon_Piper.mp3

Of course, we all missed what transpired behind the scenes between the last interview Mullins did with DBS on Dec 16 and the above interview with Piper on Jan 8.


There are certainly suspicious aspects to AFP. For example, AFP recently created blogs for some of their members:

Look at who Chris Petherick links to: Antiwar.com, which has some good information but totally ignores 9/11; Counterpunch.org, a website run by a Scientology-linked man which also ignores 9/11; ICH and LewRockwell, two websites that will rarely point the finger at Zionists; Truthout.org, which promotes articles by Juan Cole, George Monbiot, Amy Goodman, Noam Chomsky, and many other "left gatekeepers" who also promote the official story of 9/11.

The editor of an anti-Zionist publication links (ONLY) to websites that ignore 9/11 or blame everything on Bush & Cheney or nebulous groups like the "NWO" or the "Globalists"? That doesn't make much sense.


Michael Collins Piper often spews a lot of nonsense. Recently he has been "covering up" (in his own words) the demolition of WTC 7:

Caller shows Piper & Mark Glenn gatekeeping on WTC7
The_Piper_Report_(6pm_on_Mar_19th,_2007).mp3 (42:32 - 52:53)

Mike Piper totally gatekeeping on WTC7
Piper_032207_200000.MP3 (9:22 - 14:03)


And then you have Mark Glenn, who at this point in time is still talking about Israeli spies and their foreknowledge of 9/11, while failing to state what we all should know by now: that 9/11 was an Israeli false flag operation from beginning to end. Why does Glenn write only about the reports of "Israeli spying" but not about these reports? Sounds very much like gatekeeping to me.


It may be that they are just naive. But how is it possible that they are that naive after being involved in the "truth movement" for years? As Hufschmid says all the time, even if they genuinely are naive, why would we look up to them for anything? They should either wise up and demonstrate that they are honest workers for the truth, as DBS says, or they should be exposed as false opposition.

Folks, I appreciate the follow ups.

Leftie, I remember hearing the Muslims denouncing 911 as the work of Zionists and thought they were a pathetic and brainwashed/information starved bunch of folks. Course I was raised to think that about the milita movement and they knew more than I. Maybe it's time to rethink NASCAR too.

UAZ, thanks for the links. I listen when I get a minute. Could you indicate why I should listen. You said it's one I probably missed. What comes out in it relating to Posiedon and MASHER's baseless assertions? I've heard Mullins 6 times and he spends almost the whole time patiently listening to Daryl and saying, "that's what I found out 50 years ago." He is right with Daryl in identifying Piper as a plant.

Poseidon's claim that Mullins is a dupe is fuckin GARBAGE and I hope many people here have noticed. Maybe he'll produce something to support that assertion, but that is extremely unlikely given what he tried to sell last outing.

Bye MASHER. I'll miss your oh so regular movements. I did want to point out that your closing statement was EXACTLY what you began with...the one you DIDN'T BACK UP because YOU COULDN'T. Smith, Bollyn and Huf may be revealed as liars someday but not by the likes of you. You're function is inject yourself into discussions and bore people to tears. Glad you've shot your wad. See ya.