Germans reconsider “special relationship” with israel
After reels of Hollywood films castigating Germans, generations of unqualified remorse, and decades of steady reparations, israelis figured they had a pretty solid grip on the German psyche, not to mention their bank accounts.
But, apparently, all good things come to an end - even for the Chosen Ones - as evidenced by the sincere questions raised by 25 German peace researchers in the wake of israel's recent conflict in Lebanon.
- Is it appropriate and meaningful – as the authors believe it is – to maintain these “friendly relations” and regard them as “special” in the sense indicated above?
- Is Germany really only obliged to Israel in the Near East?
- If these two questions are seriously raised, what does this mean for the inner German debate, and for relations between non-Jewish, Jewish and Muslim Germans?
It's worth reading in full to witness how Germans continue to struggle with their feelings towards israel after 60 years of psychological manipulation.
Indeed, israelis have so effectively burdened Germans with their collective guilt-trip, that (at least these) Germans are prepared to accept the blame for israel's holocaust against Arabs in order to justify extending a helping hand to Palestinians, who suffer so greatly under the Zionist yoke.
It appears to be a pre-emptive strategy designed to take the sting out of zionist accusations - sure to follow such aid - that Germans are repeating the sins of the past.
Until 1933 – 37 years after the publication of Theodor Herzl’s Der Judenstaat which grounded Zionism, and 16 years after the Balfour Declaration in which the mandatory power England promised the Zionists a “homeland” in Palestine – a maximum of 160,000 Jews had emigrated to Palestine. And many of them had taken this step believing that it would be possible to cultivate and develop the Holy Land together with the local Arabs. No one was to be expelled, as Martin Buber was still arguing in 1950.
And if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.
No wait - thanks to greedy bankers, that age old rhetoric has lost its original impact.
Only after the soon recognisable radical threat to the Jews in the sphere of influence of the National Socialists did mass immigration come about, and with it a threat to the demographic balance with the Arabs.
Not least under the shock of the Holocaust did the international community – against the wish of the Arab states – decide to accept the resolution of the United Nations on the foundation of the State of Israel, despite the initial strong reservations of the British and, for a long time, the US State Department.
In other words: It was the Holocaust that has permanently inflicted unbearable suffering on the (Muslim, Christian and Druse) Palestinians over the past six decades. That is not the same as if the Third Reich had committed genocide against the Palestinians. Yet in this case too, the result has been countless dead, the division of families, expulsion, or accommodation in emergency quarters to this very day.
Without the Holocaust against the Jews, Israel’s politicians would not feel justified or forced to so stubbornly ignore the human rights of the Palestinians and the inhabitants of Lebanon in order to secure the existence of Israel.
And without the Holocaust Israel would not receive the necessary material and political support from the USA in the form granted above all since the 1990s. (America’s financial aid to Israel is 3 thousand million [notice how the avoid the word BILLION] US dollars annually and thus corresponds to 20% of all the foreign financial aid given by the USA.)
The Near East Conflict, which has lasted for six decades and is becoming increasingly savage, undoubtedly has German and, to a degree, European origins; European to the extent that the German notion of a “final solution to the Jewish question” was spawned by European Anti-Semitism and Nationalism.
The Palestinian population had no part whatsoever in the “relocation” of part of Europe’s problems to the Near East.
No one - not even the brainwashed - can deny this fact.
So it is not only Israel that has a right to special attention, consideration and friendly criticism from Germany (and Europe). As Germans, Austrians and Europeans, we are not only co-responsible for the existence of Israel, which must be secured without reservations for the future now that history has taken this path, but also co-responsible for the living conditions of the Palestinian people and a self-determined future for them.
So, Germans dutifully carry the burden of the world on their shoulders thanks to a pack of deluded blood-thirsty Zionists, when what they should be doing is questioning the assumptions upon which this colossal crime is based.
The old holocaust movies don't work any more. This is a new generation of Germans and the last generation used up all the kleenex. It's about time that Israelis had to work for a living.
to be entered in defense of holocaust denial trials.
Bravo QRS! When the Germans stop flagellating tyhemselves for something which never happened maybe Zundel and Germar can go home to their families and then sue for some of the bullion which has been poured onto the goddamned Zionists for their lies!
The Germans, in WWI and WWII, were guilty of the same things that we are guity of here and now, i.e. severe apathy, but not the fake Jewish Holocaust.
There was a holocaust but it involved many ethnicities. Kind of like we did to 3,000,000 innocent Viet Namese etc.
After the end of WW 2, terrible atrocities were committed against the Germans by the Jewish-led Bolsheviks. Large areas where Germans had lived since the begining of recorded history were given to Poland and Russia. All of Prussia was taken, and all German people were forced to leave. Women were raped and men were tortured to death. Millions of homeless Germans starved or froze to death.
In the west, millions of Germans were forced to sleep outdoors during the winter of 1945-46. Hundreds of thousands perished. Read the book "Other Losses"
Should there not be some reparations made for THESE crimes?
What about the 12 million Orthodox Christians, including over 7 million Ukrainians, who were directly or indirectly murdered by the Jewish-led Bolsheviks during the 1920's and 1930's? Israel should be paying reparations to Ukraine for THAT holocaust.
Jews say "only Jews have suffered". I think most of the human suffering during the 20th century was CAUSED by Jews.
Semitic Supremacists, for too long have been taking the affirmative action for Jews, granted as their inalienable right, along with their right to all manner of other claims, and assertions.
Apparently, Arabs have usurped the patrimony of these Chosen Ones, Germans have yet to pay for the perceived, and ubiquitously publicised wrongs that they are purported to have inflicted upon the Chosen Tribe, world ought to put up with the very evident psychosis of the Chose Ones State, whose spokespersons, are at pains to insult, harangue at, black mail us all to believing the 'righteous and just' mass murder in Palestine, and corruption of our public institutions, that has been under way for the last sixty years, and committed by the Chosen Ones armed thugs on a daily basis.
Settlers chanting; 'we killed Jesus, we will kill you too' (in Hebrew of course) while attacking nationals of various nations, and at times killing these never makes it to the media, after all the chants were made to humiliate and harass those rag tag bunch of disparate people, who travel from the four corners of the world to the occupied territories, in a failed attempt to try to shield the dispossessed and oppressed Palestinians from the daily attacks by these Settlers.
The realities surrounding the Semitic Supremacists and their heinous deeds, are then explained away by the evocation of Holocaust. This latter day secular dogma, is taken as given, and those so much as questioning it are then found to be heretics, whose insolences and disrespect to the dogma ought to be punished to full.
These all can happen while the tyranny of the affirmative action for Jews exists. End this tyranny, end the reign of terror, death, destruction of the Semitic Supremacists, Jews are equal to rest of us, and ought not be thought of as better than the rest of us, favoured more, or given allowances and advantages, stop the voluntary second class status that we all have come to subscribe to, in this global apartheid these Semitic Supremacists have forced upon us all, with the aid of Affirmative Action for Jews.
Goyim were created by God to be our servants. You goyim are not human - although you are in human form, you do not have souls. You are less intelligent, because God created you with different brains.
Cooperate and live in peace as our slaves. Be stubborn, and we will make you suffer. We Jews are your masters.
Germans do not have a monopoly on war crimes as history shows and the US,Britain, France.Russia and even Israel have no monopoly on being angels, as history shows too !Germans had enough propaganda for the last 61 years and are not willing to be on their knees forever.As much as Hitler was a logical result from the idiotic "Treaty"aka. Dictate of Versailles,future generations of Germans will not have forgotten the lies and zionist propaganda that kept their nation down.
Excellant post! It IS time that Germany
awoke and did away with that Zionist
parasite that has been sucking them dry
for all of these years.
I also agree with this comment:
Allow the truth
by oldranger
Bravo QRS! When the Germans stop flagellating tyhemselves for something which never happened maybe Zundel and Germar can go home to their families and then sue for some of the bullion which has been poured onto the goddamned Zionists for their lies!
Well said, and so true!
See:
THE HIGH CABAL'S AGENDAS:PART4
http://hometown.aol.com/phantomoflf/politics.html
&
THE HIGH CABAL'S AGENDAS:PART2
http://hometown.aol.com/phantomoflf/index.html
My heart goes out to the fine people of Germany and warmly support them oin their struggle against Semitic-supremacists' insatiable occupation of their consciousness. This openly gratuitous bilking of Germany has to stop. Good people can't merely stand by! Of course their struggle is the same struggle of many peoples: France, too, has found themselves under the thumb of these thugs and their cashlust: Who is safe from this unbelievably obnoxious scam? What next? Will one of our grandfathers, who served in WW2, be charged that he "could have done more" by firing 100 shots at any given combat theater, rather than 50? I have no doubt the "judicial system" would indeed find that those extra 50 shots "certainly could have saved the lifes of precious jews", somewhere. "Compensation" soon to follow. It's that bad. That absurd. That evil. This is a struggle for good ALL of us must fight....Good for you Germany: Don't let the thugs terrify you any more.
It's good to see Germany beginning to throw the Zionist Beast off their back. In 1933 Jews declared war on Germany and promised to do to Germany what they're just finished with in Bolshevik Russia i.e. the killing off of millions of largely Christians.
Always remember the Judaic agenda is to either genocide or enslave all non Jews. They've been working on this for millenium, and they whine and cry when there's a backlash to it.
Tis a shame they don't consider non Jews fullly human, they'd get along a lot better.
Congratulations Germany!! Now if America would be so smart!!
Reading Globe and mail editorial NOV 24/06 Same old UN fixation
Quote :...reconstitued UN council looks and acts suspiciously like the old body, with membership that includes such notorious rights abusers as Cuba, China,and Saudi Arabia and a singular obsession with the alleged misdeeds of one small country, namely Israel.
This is not a new phenomoenon. Israel has been a favourite whipping boy of the UN for years........
In Toronto we have 4 dailies,and all editors are Rabid Jews. Never aweek goes by without reminding us readers--the bad Germans and the poor hollocaust survivors and daily the bad Arabs or the Russians. Our national CBC is packed with them and recentily the Chairman had to be replaced because he said all Arabs prefer sexes with dogs. All our TV networks are Jewish controlled.
Canada and Germany are the only countries that--can arrest if anyone disputes the hollocaust or looks a jew the wrong way.
Our government funds Israel in the $millions--but is top secret.Poor little Israel
Besides this, I suggest all read up on Woodrow Wilson in 1915 and zionist blackmailing him--to Bribe the Russian$-not to sign a peace treaty with Germany. Also a homeland for the Jews.
An overlooked Nazie government was funded by USA and created by Jewish businesses and mostly Jews in control. Overlooked capper was that the German Jews gathered poor Jews and displaced ones from Russia/Poland ect--to send into Palestine.
Even the Germans had the same idea as USA/ UK.
Recall,the Movie EVODUS---the ship was meant to land in NY USA,but all the Jews in congress and Senate vote--againist landing. Sad part is--the USA jEws wanted Jews to over populate Palisine.
What scums and Hitler's men died for the same reasons the Americans got away with.
I agree with the previous comment, except for the word "nothing". Something CAN be done to stop the scumbag Zionists, but will require courage, the same courage the Hezbollah freedom fighters that stopped them last summer have.
. . . . . . . . . . .Thanks for: Canada and Germany are the only countries that--can arrest if anyone disputes the hollocaust or looks a jew the wrong way.
because:
`hollocaust` is a rendering i haven't seen and so compliments for that as it also gives me the idea to offer `hollercost`; you know, every time a jew hollers it costs us plenty.
No Semitic Supremacy exists, it is also a hoax because Israelis are majority Ashkenazie Jews who are actualy the Khazari TURKS of Asiatic origin, who only adopted the jewish faith.
Those Ashkenazies moved to Europe and further after the fall of their Khazari empire, which was defeated by the Russians in about 1200 AD.
The small number of the real Semitic Jews, who lived in Palestine are now second class citizen in Israel.
The Semites today are the ARABS and the anti-semitic mantra is just another hoax of the so called "Jews".
To Zionist Jew,
Read yout own history and try to learn from it, if is still some time left for you.
People are realizing what kind of lowest scum are you and what kind of crimes you did in the past and are doing in the present.
You were/are a cancer on the body of the world humanity and everybody knows what is the treatment for it.
For your information, because of your past and present crimes you are the ones who don't qualify for the status of the humans at all.
If you still believe the holocaust is a fact because it happened (or should I say, it happened because it's a fact), check out Dr. Art Butz' book, THE HAOX OF THE TWENTIETH CENTURY. It's still available. If you only get thru 25% of this book, you'll have a great insight into what a scam the holocaust really is.
Darkness is falling on the "master race"
http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/welcome.html
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/
http://www.jewishracism.com/
http://vialls.net/myahudi/fortress1.html
Here are some sites that tell the REAL story--not the propaganda that we've been forced to read and hear for so long. The Jews goaded Hitler into the draconian measures taken against them by boycotting all German goods and businesses at a time when Germany was desparately trying to recover from the death sentence pronounce by the Versailles Treaty. Jews also instigatied "Kristallnacht" in an effort to further cast the Germans in a bad light by blaming it on Hitler, while also generating sympathy for themselves. And I need not mention that a "good" Jew will not blink an eye while telling the worst of lies, as long as it's for the good of the "chosen people"...and as dictated by his Zionist masters. It's time for Germans to wake up to the massive lies told by the well-funded and greased Zionist machine.
A few problems with the Germany rationale, self-blaming for what the Jews are doing to the Arabs:
1. We "made" - make - them do it. They are so hurt (while picking our pockets for over 50 years) that they have turned on the Arabs and are doing the same thing to them. If it weren't for what we did to them (never mind what they did to us) they wouldn't be doing what they're doing. They're such wonderful people, you know.
BS. And self-important.
2. The Jews were Stalin's willing executioners, murdering millions of Russian peasants (Chrisian goyim - lower than human) BEFORE Hitler's pogram against the Jews in nazi Germany. The mass murder of the Russians was a hate crime, for which the Jews have never taken the least responsiblity - nor for their role in communism.
3. The Jews murdered many thousands of German POW's after WW II, even created camps for them where they were tortured and starved to death. Morganthau made sure many thousands of German civilians starved as well following the war.
4. The Jews brought their Babylonian Talmud with them to the West, a book full of anti-Christian hatred, anti-goyim hatred, in which practically any crime is permissible if it is committed against the goyim. When they were driven out of countries for corruption and attempting to tear down native institutions, they kept coming back - hardly what one would expect from mistreated people. Finally they have, through their intellectuals, and a calculated, united cold war, taken over the West. And Israel is using it to destroy those whose land it covets. And the Germans blame themselves for this criminal greed?
And the Germans are still blaming themselves for Jewish cruelty - legendary from long before Germany existed? Have none of them read the origins of the Khazar Jews?
Give us a break from this stupidity, and let's hope the Germans recover from their masochism.
Thank you for the excellent, and accurate, comments and details.
It is true that Germans have suffered greatly, and that the Jews were behind both World wars of the 20th century, as well as the current breakdown of western culture, just as they are behind the current confrontation between the West and Islam. They are insanely ethnocentric and maintain fever pitch dedication to domination with a victim mentality, anti-goyim hatred and a "it's you OR me" focus. They are masters at deception and propaganda ("By way of deception thou shalt do war" - Mossad). The Germans want to make reparations for wrong done real and imagined (unlike the Jews who think they can do no wrong to non-Jews no matter what they do) but have overpaid far too long. Cutting off the leeches won't be easy though -- they have very big teeth and very great greed.
A peeker, self-proclaimed Zionist Jew wrote above the last few comments:
Goyim were created by God to be our servants. You goyim are not human - although you are in human form, you do not have souls. You are less intelligent, because God created you with different brains.
Cooperate and live in peace as our slaves. Be stubborn, and we will make you suffer. We Jews are your masters.
The question is: was this just a provocation by some twit, or was it, is it, a serious encroachment? Zionist Jew, if you have guts (I do think the judaized Khazars have none) repeat and confirm the above - you will have proven to us we are totally on the right track here.
The next thing we'll do is to prove to you, you're just the greatest liers ever appeared in the whole history of mankind, and your 'greatness' ends there.
We Goyim will resist and be stubborn, and dissolve all of your steppen-born races into history just like your semitic co-religionists dissolved the Roman Empire 1700 years ago.
As for German suffering at the close of WW2 and up to 1950, here are the books to read:
1) James Bacque, 'Other Losses' and especially 'Crimes and Mercies';
2) Alfred-Maurice De Zayas, 'A Terrible Revenge';
3) John Sack, 'An Eye for an Eye'.
All available from on-line sellers.
In those books above, you will learn that some 9 millions (9.000.000) German civilians and POW were murdered by the combined efforts of the winners of WW2. Some retribution for what were, really, rightful complaints from the Germans after the shameful Versailles Treaty. Not only that, but (Bacque) you will learn that in order to force the Germans to accept the abominous Versailles Treaty the british (deliberate lower case 'b') enforced in 1919 (during peacetime, that is) a naval blockade of Germany that caused some 750.000 Germans to die of starvation.
How many here or out there know that? That was in 1919 and can you imagine the collective memory of that infamy, plus the disastrous terms of the Versailles Treaty, not entering in the equation that brought the world to WW2? Besides, britain and France caused that war, for not willing to accept the slightest of the revindications of Germany. Moreover, you all know how Poland was attacked jointly (at 1 month delay only) by Nazi Germany and then by Bolshevik USSR, yet britain and France declared war ONLY to Germany. What kind of loyalty towards the Poles is that? OK if Eastern Poland is swallowed by the Bolsheviks (with untold massacres, Katyn Forest and all that), but raise Hell if Germany swallows up a portion of Poland to recapture the vital Baltic Corridor. Here we have the typical double-standards of the opportunistic british race (deliberate lower case 'b') that was manifested already with the double promise of Palestine to the Arabs and to the Khazars, simultaneously.
Read the history of the kick off of WW2 from another prospect: the judaized Khazars lost their grip on Poland-Lithuania (the first New Khazaria they had, and held for a few centuries) in 1795 for good, with the Third Partition of Poland. Many of them fled to France, where they were in great numbers already and had fomented the French Revolution (a good thing after all), the First Partition of Poland (1772) being in fact prior to the taking of the Bastille (1789). Indeed Napoleon's Russian Campaign (1812) was nothing but the first attempt to regain Poland-Lithuania for the Khazars, their bankers instructing and financing Bonaparte. Indeed, Napoleon established the Dutchy of Warsaw during that ill-fated expedition, a polity that lasted only 6 months. That's why nobody notices and few understand the real motivations for Napoleon's disastrous Russian Campaign. OK, so the dream of recapturing Poland for themselves was finally achieved by the Khazars in 1915, when that state reappeared on the maps. But, damn it, the Polish aristocracy wanted now control of the land and, hell, why not ask the Khazar Bolsheviks to just stop that? Indeed it was done, few scholars know that in 1920 Lev Bronstein (Trotzky) set the Red Army against Poland and, due to the engagement in the horrendous Civil War in Russia erupted after the 1917 Bolshevik Restauration, the Poles very bravely halted the onslaught of the Reds. Without that brave resistence, Europe would have been all in the hands of the Khazars in the 1920s. So you now are at the conclusion of this re-reading of history: it was OK for the Bolsheviks to swallow up half of Poland in 1939, but oh no, not OK for the Nazi Germans to do that to the other half. So you have WW2, provoked by the british, the French and their Khazar bankers.
Some other time we shall elaborate on the Ukrainian Genocide (by the judaized Khazars) too, and on its implications during WW2.
Coming now to the current German guilt complex, it's just amazing what the Khazars have achieved in their 1945-1950 rape of Germany. Morgenthau wanted to transform Germany into an agricultural state in 1945, reducing the population to some 30 millions and razing all of its industry to the ground. Just read Bacque's Crimes and Mercies and see if that's not true. It did not happen, and I believe the Germans have the onset of the Cold War to thank for that. Germany now being the potential theatre of a nuclear confrontation between the West and the (re-russianised) Soviet Union, a purely agricultural Germany would have not served that purpose, so through the Mashall Plan Germany was allowed to rebuild its industry. At a cost: total submission to the winners, in particular the real winners of WW2 - the judaized Khazars. Their intellectuals are present in all spheres of modern Germany, they control everything important or attractive for modern society. Academia, politics, local government, finance, industry, the media, arts and crafts, ... you name it. It's all in their hands, so can you doubt that the subdued and indoctrinated Germans are totally brain-washed with their ridiculous, and historically false, sense of guilt towards 'den Juden'?
Finally, the Germans are amongst the people I know who less know about 'die Juden' being actually judaized Khazars. They firmly believe - including the present Chancellor who was/is married to a Jew (and may be 'jewish' herself, her maiden name is Kasner, Kas(t)ner) - that 'die Juden' are of Rhenanian origin and moved East from the Rhine Valley after the First Crusade's and the Black Death's persecutions. Nothing more ridiculous and historically false than that, but there you have it. There was one (excellent) book in German explaining that 'die Ostjuden' are actually Chasaren, Erwin Soratroi's 'Attilas Enkel aufs Davids Thron', a splendid title too, published by Grabert-Verlag in Tuebingen. Well, both Verlag and book were finally obliterated into a 'damnatio memoriae'. More to that, a recent counterinformative book on 'die Chasaren', by Matthias Roth (eh, eh, Roth) was published in 2006 to counter Soratroi's damage. However, Roth's book - to an expert - achieves just the opposite result, it gives further elements to prove the Khazar connection. Only, however, to an expert.