The Truth About The Talmud
THE TRUTH ABOUT THE TALMUD
Judaism's Holiest Book
by Michael A. Hoffman II and Alan R. Critchley
Introduction
The Talmud is Judaism's holiest book. Its authority takes precedence over the Old Testament in Judaism. Evidence of this may be found in the Talmud itself, Erubin 21b (Soncino edition): "My son, be more careful in the observance of the words of the Scribes than in the words of the Torah (Old Testament)."
The supremacy of the Talmud over the Bible in the Israeli state may also be seen in the case of the Black Ethiopian Jews. Ethiopians have more knowledge of the Old Testament than the Israelis.
However, their religion is so ancient it pre-dates the Scribes Talmud, of which they have no knowledge. According to the N.Y. Times of Sept. 29, 1992, p.4: "The problem is that Ethiopian Jewish tradition goes no further than the Bible or Torah; the later Talmud and other commentaries that form the basis of modern traditions never came their way." Because they don't traffic in Talmudic traditions, the Black Ethiopians are discriminated against and have been forbidden to perform marriages, funerals and other services in the Israeli state.
Rabbi Joseph D. Soloveitchik is regarded as one of the most influential rabbis of the 20th century, the "unchallenged leader" of Orthodox Judaism and the top international authority on halakha (Jewish religious law). Soloveitchik was responsible for instructing and ordaining more than 2,000 rabbis, "an entire generation" of Jewish leadership.
N.Y. Times religion reporter Ari Goldman described the basis of the rabbi's authority: "Soloveitchik came from a long line of distinguished Talmudic scholars...Until his early 20s, he devoted himself almost exclusively to the study of the Talmud...He came to Yeshiva University's Elchanan Theological Seminary where he remained the pre-eminent teacher in the Talmud...He held the title of Leib Merkin professor of Talmud...sitting with his feet crossed in front of a table bearing an open volume of the Talmud." (N.Y. Times, April 10, 1993, p. 38).
Nowhere does Goldman refer to Soloveitchik's knowledge of the Bible as the basis for being one of the top world authorities on Jewish law. The rabbi's credentials are predicated upon his mastery of the Talmud. All other studies are clearly secondary. Britain*s Jewish Chronicle of March 26, 1993 states that in religious school (yeshiva), Jews are "devoted to the Talmud to the exclusion of everything else."
The Scribes claim the Talmud is partly a collection of traditions Moses gave them in oral form. These had not yet been written down in Jesus' time. Christ condemned the traditions of the Mishnah (early Talmud) and those who taught it (Scribes and Pharisees), because it nullified Biblical teachings.
The famous warning of Jesus Christ about the tradition that voids Scripture (cf. Mark 7:13), which is regularly used against Catholicism by Protestants, is actually a direct reference to the Talmud or more properly, the forerunner of the first part of it, the Mishnah, which existed in oral form during Christ's lifetime, before being committed to writing. All of Mark chapter 7, from verse one through thirteen, represents Our Lord's pointed condemnation of the Mishnah.
Unfortunately, due to the abysmal ignorance of our day, the widespread Christian notion is that the Old Testament is the supreme book of Judaism. But this is not so. The Pharisees teach for doctrine the commandments of rabbis, not God; the Talmudic commentary on the Bible is their supreme law and not the Bible itself. That commentary does indeed, as Jesus said, void the laws of God, not uphold them. As readers of Talmud (in the rabbinically authorized Soncino version), we know this to be true.
There is a small Jewish sect which makes considerable effort to eschew Talmud and adhere to the Old Testament alone. These are the Karaites, a most hated and severely persecuted group within Judaism.
To the Mishnah the rabbis later added the Gemara (rabbinical commentaries). Together these comprise the Talmud. There are two versions, the Jerusalem Talmud and the Babylonian Talmud. The Babylonian Talmud is regarded as the authoritative version: "The authority of the Babylonian Talmud is also greater than that of the Jerusalem Talmud. In cases of doubt the former is decisive." (R.C. Musaph-Andriesse, From Torah to Kabbalah: A Basic Introduction to the Writings of Judaism, p. 40).
This study is based on the Jewish-authorized, English translation of the Babylonian Talmud: the Soncino edition. Unless otherwise indicated, every selection we cite is documented from the text of the authoritative Soncino Talmud. We have published herein the authenticated sayings of the Jewish Talmud. Look them up for yourself. To verify the Talmud passages cited, refer to the Soncino edition Talmud, which may be found in large university and seminary libraries. The Soncino Talmud may also be purchased from book dealers.
Translations: The translators of the Talmud sometimes translate the Hebrew word goyim (Gentiles) under any number of terms such as heathen, Cuthean, Egyptian, idolater etc. But these are actually references to Gentiles (all non-Jews). See for example footnote 5 of the Soncino edition Talmud: >>Cuthean (Samaritan) was here substituted for the original goy...<< Christians are sometimes referred to by the code word Min or Minim.
It is the standard disinformation practice of the Pharisees to deny the existence of the following Talmudic scriptures and to claim they are the fabrications of "anti-Semites." This disinformation can only obtain cachet among those too lazy to go to the English-language books of the Talmud and look these passages up for themselves. Hebrew University Professor emeritus Israel Shahak in his monumental 1994 work, "Jewish History, Jewish Religion" (London: Pluto Press), has confirmed the malice and racism contained in Talmud.
We publish the following educational material in the hope of liberating people, both Jewish and non-Jewish, from the superstitions, hate-mongering and barbarities of Talmud. The implementation of Talmudic philosophy has caused untold suffering throughout history and now in occupied Palestine it is used as a justification for the mass murder of Palestinian civilians.
Some Teachings of the Talmud
Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.
Moed Kattan 17a . If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.
Non-Jews are Not Human
Baba Mezia 114a-114b. Only Jews are human ("Only ye are designated men"). Also see Kerithoth 6b under the sub-head, "Oil of Anointing" and Berakoth 58a in which Gentile women are designated animals ("she-asses").
Jews are Divine
Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (Gentile) hits a Jew, the Gentile must be killed. Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God.
O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a Gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.
Jews Have Superior Legal Status
Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."
Jews May Steal from Non-Jews
Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a Gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b).
Sanhedrin 76a . God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."
Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a Gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a Gentile he may keep.
Baba Kamma 37b. Gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."
Jews May Lie to Non-Jews
Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.
Non-Jewish Children Sub-Human
Yebamoth 98a. All Gentile children are animals.
Abodah Zarah 36b . Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.
Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.
Abodah Zarah 67b . "The vessels of Gentiles, do they not impart a worsened flavor to the food cooked in them?"
Insults Against Blessed Mary
Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.
Gloats over Christ Dying Young
A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus died: "Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?--He replied: It is not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-three or thirty-four years old."
Says Jesus was a Sorcerer
Sanhedrin 43a . Says Jesus ("Yeshu" and in footnote #6, Yeshu "the Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery.
Horrible Blasphemy of Our Lord
Gittin 57a . Says Jesus ( see footnote #4) is being boiled in "hot excrement."
Sanhedrin 43a . Jesus deserved execution: "On the eve of the Passover, Yeshu was hanged...Do you suppose that he was one for whom a defense could be made? Was he not a Mesith (enticer)?"
Attacks Christians and their Books
Rosh Hashanah 17a . Christians ("minim") and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations (see footnote #11 for the definition of minim).
Sanhedrin 90a.Those who read the New Testament ("uncanonical books," see footnote #9) will have no portion in the world to come.
Shabbath 116a (p. 569). Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament. See footnote #6.
Israel Shahak reports that the Zionists burned hundreds of New Testament books in Occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).
Sick and Insane Teachings
Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies within the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix it with honey and eat it.
Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a holy way is given.
Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.
Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.
Sanhedrin 55b . A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old).
Sanhedrin 54b . A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.
Kethuboth 11b . "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing."
Yebamoth 59b . A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.
Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a whore in the world that Rabbi Eleazar has not had sex with.
Hagigah 27a . States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.
Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the rabbi won the debate.
Gittin 70a . The Rabbis taught: "On coming from a privy (outdoor toilet) a man should not have sexual intercourse till he has waited long enough to walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy is with him for that time; if he does, his children will be epileptic."
Toilet and excrement obsessions are laced throughout Talmud and were exhibited in Spielberg*s Schindler's List where the Hollywood director shows a Jewish child jumping through a toilet seat in an outhouse and falling into a pool of liquefied excrement. There the child meets two other Jewish children partially immersed who inform the interloper that this cesspool is their hiding spot exclusively and that he must find his own. These are the kind of disgusting and morbid, psychotic images which Jewish kids are exposed to constantly in the cinematic liturgy of Holocaustianity and for that matter, in the Talmud as well.
Gittin 69b (p. 329). To heal the disease of pleurisy ("catarrh") a Jew should >take the excrement of a white dog and knead it with balsam, but if he can possibly avoid it he should not eat the dog's excrement as it loosens the limbs.<
Pesahim 111a. It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to pass between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm trees. Special dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or sitting at a crossroads.
Menahoth 43b-44a . A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a Gentile, a woman or a slave.
Shabbath 86a-86b. Because Jews are holy they do not have sex during the day unless the house can be made dark. A Jewish scholar can have sex during the day if he uses his garment like a tent to make it dark.
Tall Tales of a Roman Holocaust
Here are two early "Holocaust" tales from the Talmud: Gittin 57b. Claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans. (Ancient demography indicates that there were not 16 million Jews in the entire world at that time, much less 16 million Jewish children or four billion Jews).
A Revealing Admission
Abodah Zarah 70a . The question was asked of the rabbi whether some wine stolen in Pumbeditha might be used or if it was defiled, due to the fact that the thieves might have been Gentiles (a Gentile touching wine would make the wine unclean). The rabbi says not to worry, that the wine is permissible for Jewish use because the majority of the thieves in Pumbeditha, the place where the wine was stolen, are Jews
Pharisaic Rituals
Erubin 21b (p. 150). >>Rabbi Akiba said to him, "Give me some water to wash my hands."
"It will not suffice for drinking," the other complained, "will it suffice for washing your hands?"
"What can I do?' the former replied, "when for neglecting the words of the Rabbis one deserves death? It is better that I myself should die than that I transgress against the opinion of my colleagues." [This is the ritual hand washing condemned by Jesus in Matthew 15: 1-9].
Great Rabbi Deceives A Woman
Kallah 51a (Soncino Minor Tractates). Teaches that God approves of rabbis who lie:
"The elders were once sitting in the gate when two young lads passed by; one covered his head and the other uncovered his head. Of him who uncovered his head Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a bastard. Rabbi Joshua remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a child conceived during a woman's menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he is both a bastard and a son of a niddah.
"They said, 'What induced you to contradict the opinion of your colleagues?' He replied, "I will prove it concerning him." He went to the lad's mother and found her sitting in the market selling beans.
"He said to her, 'My daughter, if you will answer the question I will put to you, I will bring you to the world to come.' (eternal life). She said to him, 'Swear it to me.' Rabbi Akiba, taking the oath with his lips but annulling it in his heart, said to her, 'What is the status of your son?' She replied, 'When I entered the bridal chamber I was niddah (menstruating) and my husband kept away from me; but my best man had intercourse with me and this son was born to me.' Consequently the child was both a bastard and the son of a niddah.
It was declared, '..Blessed be the God of Israel Who Revealed His Secret to Rabbi Akiba..."
In addition to the theme that God rewards clever liars the preceding discussion is actually about Christ (the lad who 'uncovered his head'). The reference to the lad's mother is of course to the mother of Jesus, Blessed Mary (called Miriam and sometimes, Miriam the hairdresser, in Talmud).
Genocide Advocated by Talmud
Minor Tractates. Soferim 15, Rule 10. This is the saying of Rabbi Simon ben Yohai: Tob shebe goyyim harog ("Even the best of the Gentiles should all be killed").
This passage is not from the Soncino edition but is from the original Hebrew of the Babylonian Talmud as quoted by the 1907 Jewish Encyclopedia, published by Funk and Wagnalls and compiled by Isidore Singer, under the entry, "Gentile," (p. 617).
This original Talmud passage has been concealed in translation. The Jewish Encyclopedia states that, "...in the various versions the reading has been altered, 'The best among the Egyptians' being generally substituted." In the Soncino version: "the best of the heathens" (Minor Tractates, Soferim 41a-b].
Israelis annually take part in a national pilgrimage to the grave of Simon ben Yohai, to honor this rabbi who advocated the extermination of non-Jews. (Jewish Press of June 9, 1989, p. 56B).
On Purim, Feb. 25, 1994, Israeli army officer Baruch Goldstein, an orthodox Khazar from Brooklyn, massacred 40 Palestinian civilians, including children, while they knelt in prayer in a mosque. Goldstein was a disciple of the late Rabbi Kahane who has stated that his view of Arabs as "dogs" is "from the Talmud." (Cf. CBS 60 Minutes, "Kahane").
Univ. of Jerusalem Prof. Ehud Sprinzak described Kahane and Goldstein's philosophy: "They believe it's God's will that they commit violence against 'goyim,' a Hebrew term for non-Jews." (NY Daily News, Feb. 26, 1994, p. 5).
Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg declared, "We have to recognize that Jewish blood and the blood of a goy are not the same thing." (NY Times, June 6, 1989, p.5). Rabbi Yaacov Perrin says, "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." (NY Daily News, Feb. 28, 1994, p.6).
Judeo-Christian Response to Talmud
Neither the modern popes or the modern preachers of Protestantism, have ever insisted that the rabbis of Judaism repudiate or condemn the Talmud. On the contrary, the heads of Churchianity have urged the followers of Christ to obey, honor and support the followers of the Talmud. Therefore, it should be obvious that these Catholic and Protestant leaders are the worst betrayers of Jesus Christ on earth today.
Published By Warrant of John 18:37; Matthew 23:13-15 I Thess. 2:14-16; Titus 1:14; Luke 3:8-9; Rev. 3:9.
"Pray for the Conversion of the Pharisees as Christ converted Nicodemus"
Researched and authenticated by Alan R. Critchley and Michael A. Hoffman II
Copyright ©1994. All Rights Reserved. http//:www.hoffman-info.com
Distributed by the Independent History and Research Co.
See also Israel Shahak's "Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of Three Thousand Years"
excellent article awakenedgoyim, i just want to point out that after the Second Vatican Council, the Catholic position towards khazars, as well as many many church teachings, ceremonies and the mass itself, were changed dramatically.
Before all these teachings from the talmud were taught in the seminaries to warn all the priests about these issues, now they dont even teach Catholic history, they are just grooming priests to be motivational speakers that make everyone feel good about themselves and clap and sing, in deed the smoke of satan has entered our church.
Lots of things are happening, evil hands are guiding them, we have to keep a watchfull eye and warn and tell others.
Excellent post.
Take it straight from Yebamoth, every word of it is true -
(- from Tractate Prostate Sanidrain - Poop Ticket #1 ) :
"TALL MUD IS THE SACRED NAME FOR DEEP SHIT"
If you should happen to fall into it, here's a whole roll you can use, to wipe yourself right back out of it.
Can someone give a quick summary of who goes for what inside Judaism? Who besides the Orthodox take the Tall Mud seriously. The main varieties seem to be these:
Orthodox - Talmud centered
Modern Orthodox - ?
Haredi (Ultra Ortho) - ?
Reform - ?
Conservative - ?
Hassidic - ?
Thoughts and commentary appreciated. Thanks.
Excellent post (I have read Michael Hoffman's book btw and highly recommend it!), and excellent comments by watanabex and by Quasimodo, witty as always. As for Fester's question, I know the living Khazars sufficiently well to say this about their attitudes toward the Talmud:
Orthodox - Talmud centered
Modern Orthodox - Talmud centered
Haredi (Ultra Orthodox) - Talmud centered
Reform - Can't give a damn
Conservative - Talmud centered
Hassidic - Talmud centered
So, no reasons for being optimistic ... Why did the Catholic Church give in so dramatically to the evil Khazars' ways??? Look at the Ariel Toaff's affair, 'Pasque di Sangue'.
Why?
Wonderfull article! I loved it!
Thanks for all the studying and hard work that went into that one!!!!
"I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"...Voltaire
As vile as the talmud is in it's teachings regarding mankind, there is a much more sinister force slithering around the zionist movement.
You have to do your own research. There are many who would mislead and deceive on these matters and the essence is so secret that many adepts are even out of the loop. Here is a great place to start:
Red Ice Archives
Look at the section on Zionism, Israel & Shabbetai Tzvi. The whole archive is a primer of great info.
Also, todays radio podcast is superb. I find myself spending a lot of my research time at Red Ice.
Why did the Catholic Church give in so dramatically to the evil Khazars' ways???
it was infiltrated by masons, and jews alike, Paul VI http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/Paul6photogallery.html shows paul VI wearing the Rational of a Jewish High Priest, it is said that he and John XXIII were actually jews, they permitted Vatican Council II to be made, and they completelly changed everything about the church.
It's all part of their master plan, kill the church, kill the christian family, kill the christian society.
this has been the goal, of everyone from Adam Weishaupt to Karl Marx to Stalin to all these Neo-Cons.
Its a hydra, many different heads and faces, but one body.
may have had its unity, but it was also burnt supposed witches and thinkers just because they thought differently from the Priestly class.
now of course the Church is controlled by Zionists because they gained control of Church finances and the Church is a billion dollar worldwide global enterprise. Through this the Zionists insinuated themselves into the body politic of the Church.
The Catholic Church has been infiltrated and usurped by those who operate under the commandment "Praised be Him who permits the forbidden!" As bad as they were before this infiltration - and one would have to go to the ends of the universe to find an institution more corrupt than the Roman papacy - they took a real step over to the dark side after their takeover by the Sabbatian Frankists.
Like his predecessor and master Sabbatai Tzvi, Jacob Frank considered himself to be another messiah. He claimed to be an incarnation of the the Jewish patriarch Jacob. He ordered his 13,000 followers to become Catholics and infiltrate the Catholic church. He referred to the Catholics as the "Esau," the brother of biblical Jacob while he and his followers were the biblical Jacob. To the Christian Catholics he told that it was time for a reconciliation between "Jacob" and "Esau." While he told his followers secretly that as Jacob deceived Esau in the story of the Bible, so by the way of deception we will establish a Jewish anti-christ kingdom in Palestine.
Sabbatai Tzvi
OK, the Sabbateans and Frankists had their go at infiltrating the Church, the Bolshevists at destroying Christianity. But I do think the capitulation of the Roman Catholic Church to Khazar's power is a much more recent thing. Some of you say it was sealed at the Ecumenical Council II, so basically John XXIII and Paul VI did it. Maybe. For sure I do think Pious XII, during WW2, realized the equation Bolshevism=Judaism and secretely gave the Nazis (just as many popes financed and accompanied the Teutonic Knights in the Northern Crusades) the green light to invade the USSR and persecute the judaised Khazars turned secular Bolshevists there.So the capitulation is post-WW2, maybe Holohoax-related. For sure it's astonishing that the Church let the judaised Khazars take Palestine in 1948 over from the part-Christian Palestinians (aka Philistines). Perhaps it's a capitulation to Khazar control of all whealth in the world, including the Vatican's, or/and fear of the rise of Islam in the world and in the West (which I greatly welcome!) in particular. Or, the Vatican faced the threat of being physically destroyed at the end of WW2 (when the Nazi-Catholic rebellion was quelled) and had to give in to the Zionists. One thing is sure: John-Paul II was 'jewish', his mother was anyway and he developed tight relationships with 'Jews' in Poland during and after WW2. That probably sealed the Church's capitulation to Zionism.
So the rewakening starts right there: the Church must shake its New Tartar Yoke off its back, or (better) it must be terminated since it has become a traitorous organization.
It's all in John Beaty's 'Iron Courtain Over America', btw ...
Remember that the bastard Rothschild son of Schikelgruber, Adolf Hitler, was put in power by the sabbatians to create the conditions in Europe that would bring about the creation of ziostan. The Russian Czars were removed in the first predicted world war - The second creates the zionist state, and the third destroys political zionism and Islam and ushers in the anti-faith.
At least that's how Pike calls it.
Clay, the predictions you mention are from where? Book of Rev? How seriously do the Talmud stained Khazars take the Testaments? If they are all basically T-mud centered as History Worm indicates, are the predictions smoke and mirrors to keep the masses shaking and quaking in their boots? Thanks.
I think it's more complicated than that, Claymoremind. We agree on WW1 causes and effects (another excellent recent post emphasizes how the Khazar bankers wanted to replace German influence in Russia with British and American (anglo-saxon???) one, at the eve of the 1917 Bolshevik Restauration of the Tartat Yoke). However, WW2 is a much more complex beast to understand. Yes, I begin to believe Quasimodo's hero, name Jim Condit, in his contention that Nazifascism was another creature of those same zionists (small z, OK) who - like apprentice sorcerers - could not stop the whichcraft they created in the first place once it was set in motion. At least this is the part I believe in the Condit's thesis (still could not find the time to watch all of the 2+1/2 hours video, Quas). I do buy that the Nazi leadership was infiltrated and even influenced by zionists, but to say that Nazifascism was entirely instigated by the zionists is a little far-fetched.
In my view, WW2 was brought about by the British and French, masterminded by the Khazars of course, in order to crush the German dream of a renewed unification of Europe - under their leadership - for good. But it was a good dream, badly implemented and sought for, when considering that that unification had been achieved under Karl der Grosse and would have continued to a new enlarged (Holy) Roman Empire, which should have included Byzantium, had it not been for the Catholic Church and its temporal interests.
I wonder if there is a benefit in looking at most religions in the following way. (Probably) Most religions, definitely monotheistic religions, can be divided into two halves (or parts) : Divinity and Civic codes of conduct.
Divinity is obviously the fundamental skeleton of the beliefs ; what 'God' means, the story of creation, what life means, what death means, after life, what prophets mean, how God looks at us, etc. Divinity part rarely accepts changes, mostly because it comes in the form of a Book.
Civic codes of conduct is about how to conduct yourself in the society congruent to the principles of the beliefs in the divinity part. Now this part brings in ulema, priests and pastors, and rabbis.
Without having read the original Talmud, but many articles like this one, I always considered Talmud as (too elaborate but still) the second part, codes of conducts, with Torah being the Book of the divinity part.
Now the question is how much Talmud has nullified, changed, or replaced the principles in Torah.
I can easily accept that convert Khazars accepted Talmud judaism without needing a skeleton of a belief system that it did not come with and because they never had one themselves before and never looked for it. And since they form 92-95% of the world judaics today, they have become a tremendously destructive force due to the lack of a divine belief system and only an infected conduct system. How could you call yourself a rabbi and literally extort 98% of non judaic Americans out of their kosher food money, unless you have no conscience but a code of conduct?
Now is it not possible to consider the creation of 40 million evangelical christians a mirror image of Talmudic judaism ? Otherwise how could you call yourself a pastor when you (John Haggi) can go on air (America) and clearly ask for nuking Iran, because we need a river of blood in middle east in order for Jesus to come back?
(With incomparable proportions) we can find equivalents in shari'a of some obscure ulema as well.
So may be Talmud can be considered the original text book of how unkosher and false religious leaders can abuse a religion to establish their yoke of control over the followers, as opposed to teach them how to be independent and liberated.
Islam has its corrupt ulama (scholars) known technically as Ulama e sue (evil ulema) and Muhammad warned about this group...possibly emmersed in 'book learning' but with a heart of stone, and they have extreme greed for the world, they align themselves with the rich and powerful and justify their tyranny and legitimate it, they may even participate in the tyranny.
They have no sincerity towards God, religion is a means to gaining more of the world, more fame, more honour, more wealth etc.
I understand Islam not as a religion, though it has been made into one at various times and places by certain groups. Islam has book learning and a system of knowledge, but the emphasis has always been on the heart, on warmth of the soul, sincerity and each individual learning about him/herself and their relationship with God, with no intermidiery (or priest coming in the way).
There are deviants in every religion, people who mis-interpret the scriptures, but no other religion operates with a parallel book like the Talmud. In fact the Talmud is the operating manual for the Zionists.
In the last several hundred years, the Zionists have influenced events around the world to such an extent that the world you see today has been shaped by them, and not by Christians, Muslims, Hindus or Buddhists.
Their hand is behind political systems, finance, trade, colonialism, U.N. Hollywood, T.V. media and wars.
You may not realise this by names that you see in the headlines, but many Jews have changed their names and appear as Christians (see my post on Jewish Name Changers), by adopting Christian names they are fooling the world that it is Christian west that has caused all the suffering in the world, all the while it is Talmudic agenda that is being pushed on to the world.
Even in a Christian country like America, there is no Christianity of Christ. It is the Talmudic Christianity that dictates America.
In the Muslim world the deviant Mullahs or people such as Osama bin Laden are a reaction to this Talmudic terror, otherwise they would not even exist or survive. Centuries of colonialism and injustices on the third world countries by the Talmudic western countries must have a reaction. It is natural and not to be condemned.
Grand Poobah Albert Pike , who wrote Morals and Dogma made those predictions - Here is a thread that roughly outlines it:
http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm
I used to peek in on you and Posiodon's epic battle over the Smith three Amigos. I rather enjoyed the pitched battle as a spectator, but I must say I am astonished that you ask about sabbatianism, talmud, and Pike given your vast knowledge of all things Smith. The link I gave you to the Red Ice archives would be a great place to get up to speed on all these matters.
Great thread, great to see so many informed people discussing this.
I'd just like to add about WW1 and WW2: While WW1 was indeed a major way ofgetting rid of the Czar in Russia, I think the Czar was one of the smaller reasons. From my discernment, I think WW1 was designed (maybe over-ambitiously) to bring about all/most of the Messianic Zionist goals in one fell swoop. These included:
Destroy the Ottoman Empire to clear the way for Palestine to be taken.
Pitch the world into chaos out of which Israel born.
This world war would
-indebt the nations to the Rothschild bankers and their agents.
- Provided the backdrop over which 6 million Jews are sacrificed in the fire (for Talmudic/mystical reasons. Remember they tried to claim the Holocaust of 6million Jews happened in WW1, but no one bought it then).
- Brought the nations under a world government that would police them and bring world peace. The League of nations would provide legitimacy to Zionist Israel's establishment, because it would have the 'authority' to do so.
- The war would remove those who oppose the Zionist machinations, and lead the Jews back to Palestine, and help the Messianic/Talmudic Zionists set the stage where they rule over the nations either indirectly (via the League of Nations, British Empire, banks, etc) or directly (via the Bolsheviks, where the leaders were nearly all Jewish, putting laws on Goys that would cheat them out of God, nationality, private ownership, etc.)
So I believe that WW1 was an overly ambitious attempt by changing the world all in one go, by pitting it into the chaos and then offering the solutions (which were the desired results from the beginning, you guys know how it works.)
However, it wasn't completely successful:
-The Ottomans were destroyed, Turkey was taken over by Donmehs and secularists, Palestine was open for take-over, BUT the everyday Jew didn't want to come!
-The Holocaust myth of WW1 didn't catch on, Jews weren't afraid or forced to leave, it just didn't get the momentum it needed.
-The Czar was outta the way, the Bolsheviks took Russia, and tried to take Europe but were defeated in Poland and other places.
-The League of Nations was weak, wasn't that effective, petered out itself.
So, what is the solution? Have another world war! This time, get it right:
-Hitler was set up to scare and chase the Jews out of Europe to Palestine.
-Another World War and chaos to further indebt the nations, and this time bring them under the UN.
-The Holocaust of 6million goes into propaganda overdrive, is now an established myth as the reason for the need for Israel.
-The UN, being the world's policeman, 'legitimizes' the theft of Palestine by the Zionists (whose numbers now grew thanks to Hitler's 'antisemitism').
-The Communists take half of Europe, that's quite a bit of direct control right there (though the grip may have been weakening with Stalin, I dunno)
-The West, with guilt from the 'Holocaust' now supports Israel financially and militarily, first against the 'Communist-backed' Arab evil doers, now against the 'terrorist Muslim' evil doers.
Clay, thanks for the links. I've never taken the time to investigate all the aspects of the Khazar virus. Saving some of it for my dotage.
Glad you enjoyed the giant hairball thread. I've grown a little weary, on several fronts, but if it's entertaining maybe I'll keep chasing the chum.
In The Wisdom of Jesus and the Yoga Siddhas by Marshall Govindan, it states "even the early Church historian, Eusebius, a proto-Orthodox Christian, in the early 4th century, who in his ten-volume summary of the writings of the New Testament, created four categories of books (acknowledged, disputed, spurious (forged), and heretical) put REVELATIONS in the category of SPURIOUS."
(p. 139 ).
Thought the Worm and others might be interested or have a comment on that one.