The Christian Assyrian Holocaust
Some may or may not have heard of the massacre or Holocaust committed against the Christian Assyrians. Over 1/2 of their nation was exterminated between 1914 and 1918.
It appears from all my study that the "young turks" took control of the Ottoman Empire just prior to WWI, and conducted a systematic slaughter of the Assyrian Christians. What I find odd about the history and information concerning this event is that the excuse given is faulty.
The sources I've found indicate that the Ottoman Empire believed the Christian Assyrians to be siding with the Russians, while they (Ottoman Empire), was planning to side with Germany-Austria-Italy.
Now, the odd thing is that these Christians were slaughtered and offered literally no defence. They had no weapons. It was a blatant turkey shoot. Murdering these people like sheep. Obvious to me the Christian Assyrians were as harmless as doves, and the world was not and IS NOT worthy of them. Martyr's of Jesus Christ.
"You have undoubtedly heard of the Assyrian massacre of Khoi, but I am certain you do not know the details."
These Assyrians were assembled into one caravansary, and shot to death by guns and revolvers. Blood literally flowed in little streams, and the entire open space within the caravansary became a pool of crimson liquid. The place was too small to hold all the living victims waiting for execution. They were brought in groups, and each new group was compelled to stand over the heap of the still bleeding bodies and shot to death. The fearful place became literally a human slaughter house, receiving its speechless victims, in groups of ten and twenty at a time, for execution.
At the same time, the Assyrians, who were residing in the suburb of the city, were brought together and driven into the spacious courtyard of a house [...] The Assyrian refugees were kept under guard for eight days, without anything to eat. At last they were removed from their place of confinement and taken to a spot prepared for their brutal killing. These helpless Assyrians marched like lambs to their slaughter, and they opened not their mouth, save by sayings "Lord, into thy hands we commit our spirits. [...]
The executioners began by cutting first the fingers of their victims, join by joint, till the two hands were entirely amputated. Then they were stretched on the ground, after the manner of the animals that are slain in the Fast, but these with their faces turned upward, and their heads resting upon the stones or blocks of wood Then their throats were half cut, so as to prolong their torture of dying, and while struggling in the agony of death, the victims were kicked and clubbed by heavy poles the murderers carried Many of them, while still laboring under the pain of death, were thrown into ditches and buried before their souls had expired.
The young men and the able-bodied men were separated from among the very young and the old. They were taken some distance from the city and used as targets by the shooters. They all fell, a few not mortally wounded. One of the leaders went to the heaps of the fallen and shouted aloud, swearing by the names of Islam's prophets that those who had not received mortal wounds should rise and depart, as they would not be harmed any more. A few, thus deceived, stood up, but only to fall this time killed by another volley from the guns of the murderers.
Some of the younger and good looking women, together with a few little girls of attractive appearance, pleaded to be killed. Against their will were forced into Islam's harems. Others were subjected to such fiendish insults that I cannot possibly describe. Death, however, came to their rescue and saved them from the vile passions of the demons. The death toll of Assyrians totaled 2,770 men, women and children.[7]"
Reverend John Eshoo
I absolutely believe these crimes were committed, but it seems to me (My own personal belief), that it IS NOT circumstantial that the Jews were pushing for their own country at this time (and pushing the world into WWI...for more information on this topic see Benjamin Freedman on historical revisionism.
How is it that these Assyrian Christians lived for the better part "peacefully" with surrounding Islam faithfulls for centuries, but a few years before the Belfour decleration,.. Islamists in Turkey suddenly go nuts attacking the Assyrian Christians. Made for GREAT PROPOGANDA IN THE WEST WHERE THE COMMON LAYMEN WAS CHRISTIAN IN 1914~!~~~~!!
Zionism NEEDS the support of Goi to complete their aims. These vipers have been behind so many subterfuge type activities it is mind boggling.
I ask, could the early zionist fathers have propogated these nefarious acts as to gain support and sympathy from the early 20th century Christians in the West? Was the war on Islam already in motion in 1914??
I believe so.
Let's take a look at one author's comments on the Jewish (I believe them to actually not be Jews but Khazars), influence via the "young turks" in regards to the Ottoman Empire;
The Jewish Component
The Donmè ("convert" in Turkish), was a Hebrew heresy whose followers converted [?] to Islam in the 18th century. They were most heavily concentrated in Thessaloniki. According to the Great Hellenic Encyclopedia [Megali Elliniki Enkiklopethia]: "It is generally accepted that the Donmè secretly continue to adhere to the Hebrew religion and don't allow their kind to intermarry with the Muslims."
The disproportionate power and influence (in light of their number) that the Donmè had on both the Ottoman Empire and on the Young Turk movement has been the subject of a great deal of commentary by many observers and researchers. The eminent British historian, R. Seton Watson, in his book, The Rise of Nationality in the Balkans. London, 1917 (H Gennisi tou Ethnikismou sta Valkania), wrote the following: "The real brains behind the [Itihàt] movement were Jews or Islamic-Jews. The wealthy Donmè and Jews of Thessaloniki supported [the Young Turks] economically, and their fellow Jewish capitalists in Vienna and Berlin -- as well as in Budapest and possibly Paris and London -- supported them financially as well.
Massacres in the late Ottoman Empire
where no less then 200,000 (on conservative estimates), Assyrian and Armanian Christians were slaughtered during WWI by the Donme' and it's influence.
you should revisit history pages of Crusades. Anyway the age you are talking about was more or less total collapse of the Islamic rule within Ottoman empire. Soon after Zionist known as Kamal Ataturk obliterated Islam from Turkey thus creating present instability in a country of 98% Muslim population. Look for civil war in Turkey maybe even before the year ends. I urge you and others to read this document which will help you understand current world situation. It is quite connected with Palestine, 9/11, and ME turmoil in general. You will not regret time spent on reading this article.
http://www.angelfire.com/psy/vilayah/british_spy.htm
"Let there be Light!"
This contention about the Young Turks and Turkish Donmeh being at the root of the genocides of Christian populations in Anatolia and in the rest of the then Ottoman Empire is beginning to sound more an more credible to me.
So the motivation was the obliteration of all Christian resistence to the acquisition of Palestine, a desire the Ashkenazi Khazars developed since the XII century CE. The first attempt by the Khazars of the Seljuk Empire to capture (not re-capture, as these populations never came from Palestine) the 'Holy Land' dates back to the semi-legendary Al-Roy's Crusade (which apparently had the hexagram as emblem). Indeed there was a good reason to obliterate the Armenian Christians, because this population was broken into two major groups in Anatolia, one group (of which we have the remnant) in Armenia proper and the other group, now no longer in existence, in the Adana-Iskanderun (Alexandretta) region. The so-called Assyrian Christians were linked to this second group and both populations have been obliterated. Why? To turanize the entire Ottoman Empire and prepare for the advent of Israel.
The turkish Ashkenazis are the most destructive force ever come out of the Eurasian steppes ...
YOU GOT IT PERFECT HISTORY WORM!
"I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"...Voltaire
... I encourage you guys to read this online book about the Donmeh's role in the Armenian Genocide:
http://www.jewishracism.com/JewishGenocide.htm
It's very well documented and relies fully on original sources (with the author stringing things together in between).
History-Worm, there were many reasons to get rid of the Armenian competitors, but a major one was propaganda to provoke Christian Russia and the West in destroying the Ottoman Empire to save the Christian Armenians.
Even though many Christians at the time didn't need Muslim atrocities to hate the Ottomans (they were competing for believers and territory), and I am not denying that the Ottomans committed crimes (especially in their corrupt later years, even against Arab Muslims, not just Christians), but it is very important to note that the above account of the massacre was given by a Rev Eshoo, presumably to stir emotion and action in his Christian audience. Therefore I wouldn't be surprised if that account was sensationalized, and there are hints to that:
"One of the leaders ... swearing by the names of Islam's prophets..."
Either the Muslim general Rev Eshoo heard about didn't know Islam, or the Rev is sensationalizing the story without knowing Islam himself. In Islam it is forbidden to swear by anything other than God's name Himself (anything else would be 'shirk', associating things with God). Also, Islam's prophets happen to be Mohammad, Jesus, Moses, etc, including most Biblical prophets.
Needless to say, the propaganda worked, but it was intended for that epoch only. It was enough to liberate the most of the Empire from Ottoman Turkish rule, leaving Palestine and other areas under Western occupation, and leaving a Turkey lead by Donmehs. However, for some reason, while the Holocaust of Jews in Europe is established 'fact' and remembered ad nauseum til today, the Turkish leadership and US Jewish organizations deny the Holocaust of the Armenians. What do they want to hide?
Note to Peacetroll: put commas between your tag titles ;)
And lastly, once again I find myself disagreeing with you, HW. With all respect to your scholarship, I still don't see race-links being the reason for Turkish support to Ziostan this past century.
The Donmeh crypto/Salonikan/Sabbatean 'Jews' didn't collaborate with Turks. The name 'Young Turks' was a cover, nearly all 'Young Turks' were Donmehs, some were Greek and some Armenian. It is this NON-Turkish group which took power in the Ottoman Empire from the Muslim Turkish rulers, destroyed the Empire, secularized it, and have ruled it since. They have a grip on the Turkish military, and protect their power using coups to protect 'secularism'. Who were these coups against? Against Islamic Turkish governments elected by Turkish majorities. The Turkish population by and large does NOT support Israel because they share an ethnicity. Turks are as anti-Zionist as Arabs.
It is the governments of Turks and Arabs that facilitate Israel, not the peoples.
What do you think?
... I wasn't making it up when I said that Jewish Organizations in America 'deny' (oh my! the irony...) the Armenian Holocaust:
That's interesting, the most Zionist and aggressive organizations in the US, and their Turkish brethren, don't want to recognize what happened to the Armenians as a genocide? Are they hogging the status of 'world's victim' for themselves? Or are they worried that the genocide took place AFTER the Young Turks took power, so will damn them and not the Ottomans?
Oh the hypocrisy! Historians get to decide what happened to the Armenians! But legislators have made it ILLEGAL for historians to question what officially happened to Jews in WWII. I'd like to see the ADL and JINSA repeat these words to Zundel, Rudolph, and all the Holocaust historians and revisionists in jail or under threat.
Amazingly, this article came from the LA Times:
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-myers1may01,0,3937946.story?co...
However, this important info was explained away by moralizing Ziospeak. Read the rest for yourselves.
MZ, I disagree with your contention:
"there were many reasons to get rid of the Armenian competitors, but a major one was propaganda to provoke Christian Russia and the West in destroying the Ottoman Empire to save the Christian Armenians."
Russia and Christian Europe did not need another provocation to be wanting to destroy the Ottoman Empire. That Empire was already collapsing (it was called 'The Great Sick Man of Europe' by the european monarchs). Russians and Slavs have always suffered immensely at the hand of the Turks, of all turko-mongol ethnic groups. Besides, no european monarch run to the rescue of the Armenian and Assyrian Christians, nor to the help of the Palestinian Christians for that matter, including the Popes. So why mass-murder Christians in the dying Ottoman Empire, other than for two reasons: 1) keep the Empire together, eliminating pockets of resistence and rebellion, fifth-columns of the Christian West; 2) eliminate all possible local Christian opposition to the coming takeover of Palestine by the turkish Khazars, thus quelling from the beginning all possible Christian claims to Palestine. Another main reason was the surge in turkish nationalism, that panturanianism that is now well presented in the website of the Turan Movement.
As for the turkish (contemporary turkish, that is) lack of support for Israel within the muslim bulk of the population, I believe that may come from religious affinity and solidarity with the Arabs, from the heart more than from the mind of true Muslim Turks. That explains why it's mainly the secular and cripto-Jewish Turks (the Donmeh) who support Israel single-handedly.
Ooops, the correct website of the Turan Movement is this one, sorry:
www.ozturkler.com/data_english/english.html
Do have a look, it's really very instructive. Are we sure the modern, Muslim Turks are no longer nationalistic? Blood is much thicker than religion when it comes to loyalties ...
MonkeyZerg and HistoryWorm,
thanks for the input and links. I really appreciate your thoughts and understanding with regard to this matter.
"I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"...Voltaire
... On looking at this again, you are right when you say "Russia and Christian Europe did not need another provocation to be wanting to destroy the Ottoman Empire. That Empire was already collapsing (it was called 'The Great Sick Man of Europe' by the european monarchs)."
Even if it wasn't the major reason, the Genocide of Armenians was used for propaganda by certain parties (and is now being suppressed). You're probably right in saying that the Christian Armenians and Assyrians were genocided to weaken them, reduce any future resistance, and quell any future claims to Palestine. However, I've never seen any indication that they ever claimed Palestine (Christian Arabs did), and at the time they were killed, they weren't resisting the Empire (as opposed to Greeks, and some Balkans and Arabs).
Could it be they were killed for more domestic and economic reasons? I don't know. This is worth looking into more.
"As for the turkish (contemporary turkish, that is) lack of support for Israel within the muslim bulk of the population, I believe that may come from religious affinity and solidarity with the Arabs, from the heart more than from the mind of true Muslim Turks. That explains why it's mainly the secular and cripto-Jewish Turks (the Donmeh) who support Israel single-handedly."
'true Muslim Turks' would never support Israel, because race is not a factor in Islam, but belief and actions. I know ethnic Ashkenazi Jews who converted to Islam who oppose ISrael and Zionism due to Israel's actions and their new affinity to Muslims.
You are right when you say that it's secular and crypto-Jewish Turks that support Israel, but isn't it their 'heart' as well which leads to this support (for their Turkic, Westernized fellows). I still think you give race too large a share.
Racism is as much in the heart as religionism. Methinks.