"They knew exactly who we were"
As usual, the lamestream media tries to minimize the significance of the growing truth movement behind the USS Liberty by branding us "conspiracy theorists."
But, israelis must be getting really nervous with the NSA announcing this week that it will release all documents related to the attack.
Israel has always insisted the attack was a case of mistaken identity and 11 U.S. investigations over the years have reached the same conclusion.Although Israel apologized and paid restitution to the families of servicemen killed and injured, some of the men on the ship that day have for decades been pushing the theory that the Israelis intended to murder every American on board and that the Pentagon is covering up a war crime.
"They knew exactly who we were," said Joel Lehman, 60, of Austin, Texas, who was a storekeeper for the Navy on the ship and wants a new investigation.
Researcher Michael Oren says the case is closed. He says no one has found evidence that the attack was anything other than an accident.
"I have never come across any evidence supporting it," said Oren, a senior fellow at the Adelson Institute for Strategic Studies at the Shalem Center in Jerusalem. "Why would Israel … attack a ship that belonged to its only ally?"
On Thursday several former crewmembers of the Liberty gathered at a hotel here to share stories and memories. Many believe the incident was not an accident and they want a new inquiry into the incident.
According to a State Department summary, the Liberty had been sent to the area by the National Security Agency to find out if Soviet personnel were operating with Egyptian forces. Messages sent to the Liberty instructing it to remain 100 miles offshore were never received.
The morning of the attack, several Israeli reconnaissance planes identified the ship as a friendly vessel in the war zone, 14 miles offshore. But later in the day, Israeli jets attacked, running six strafing runs.
Lehman and others say Israel wanted to sink the Liberty because it hoped to blame the attack on Egypt and pull the United States into the war, or that it was worried the spy ship would find out about Israel's plans to attack Syrian positions in the Golan Heights. Oren says both are false because Israel did not need U.S. help in the war and had already told the U.S. government of its plans to attack the Syrians.
A U.S. Navy Court of Inquiry completed 10 days after the attack concluded it was a case of mistaken identity. Ten subsequent inquiries by Congress, the CIA and the Pentagon found no evidence pointing to a deliberate attack.
Dale Larkins, 61, of Lexington, Neb., a seaman apprentice who had just gone below decks before the start of the attack, said Thursday that the atmosphere was "very relaxed" in the moments before the attack.
Larkins heard an explosion and the high-pitched sound of the ship's chemical attack alarm. When he reported to one of the ship's machine guns he found three crewmates shot to pieces. Next came a torpedo hit, "and the ship surged in the water," he said.
Glenn Oliphant, secretary for the Liberty Veterans Association — who lost his hearing in the attack — believes in a conspiracy. He says people who saw transcripts of communications between Israeli pilots and their air-traffic controllers say the Israelis knew the ship was American and ordered the attack.
Oren says a series of mishaps caused the attack. The Israelis lost track of the ship during a shift change at combat headquarters. When Israeli troops on a beach of the Sinai Peninsula thought they were being shelled from the sea, Israel ordered its navy to attack.
Israeli jets were called in when the Navy could not get to the ship. When the pilots realized they were attacking a U.S. ship they stopped, "but nobody told the (Israeli) navy," Oren says. Israeli torpedo boats arrived on the scene and were fired at by the Liberty. The Israelis fired torpedos. One struck the Liberty, killing several crewmen. An Israeli officer saw the U.S. flag, called off the attack and offered to help.
Mitchell Bard, a historian with the American-Israeli Cooperative Enterprise, which promotes cooperation between the USA and Israel, maintains a website about the incident, which includes NSA transcripts of communications between Israeli pilots and their controllers, which illustrate the confusion.
"The cockpit tapes say they (pilots) couldn't see the (ship's) flags. Then there was concern about its identity when they saw its hull number and the air-traffic controlers in Tel Aviv became concerned that it was an American ship," Bard says.
"As far I know these are (the complete transcripts)," Bard says. "But this is something that a conspiracy theorist would say is missing."
Oren agrees that a new inquiry should be held.
"I think that is probably not a bad idea," he said.
Meanwhile, the National Security Agency said this week it would release all documents relating to the attack.
"We're hoping those documents are what we're looking for," said Glenn Oliphant, 62, of White Bear, Minn.
I can't wait to see them.




I do not wish to comment on all these blatant lies from Michael Oren at this time. I merely wish to say at this point - don't hold your breath waiting to see all the documents from NSA. That agency was in this up to their earballs from the beginning, was constantly in touch with the Liberty, and hell will freeze over in El Arish before NSA will ever come clean with all of their existing documentation.
You will never see anything remotely resembling "the whole truth, and nothing but the truth" from the National Surveillance Agency. That is not the business they are in, and has never been one of their basic commodities. So now all of a sudden, why would their basic modus operandi change overnight ?
But you can expect at least one thing, for sure - nothing but
more bullshit and more lies
but, they're arrogant
something may fall through the cracks.
at least, we can hope.
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I doubt very much that Israelis even think about the Liberty.. beyond writing a book or an article here and there to placate their American "friends". I imagine that Israelis are focused on one thing only: eliminating whatever threatens the existence of Israel, and that certainly is not the United States. Israelis right now are focused on Lebanon (Hezbollah) and Iran. These two, not only militarily threaten Israel, but they have caused Israelis to emigrate (reducing the Jewish population) and have destabilized the very being of Israel and the very core of the Jewish state. The USS Liberty is ancient history for Israel... and I hate to say that US public opinion is mostly well under control by Zionist media. While US headline news today is about Paris Hilton going back to jail, Israelis have informed Condoleezza that they will give the US another 6 months before they get nasty about Iran. First they had the US eliminate Iraq (a major Israeli and not US enemy) and now they are working on the US to eliminate Hezbollah and Iran. I’m afraid that Israel has nothing to fear from the US. It is the US that now fears Israel. Whatever the NSA says, I regretably don’t think that it will in any way affect US/Israeli relations.
From King David Hotel bombing to the artificial creation of new Israel to the Lavon Affair to possible involvement in the JFK assassination by assistance (Dimona) to USS Liberty to Libya scapegoating to spying ring in America including celebrating 9-11 attacks, State of Israel and its army of Zionists are pure evil in their malice and thuggery shaking Americans' hands while holding the knife behind the back.
USS Liberty proves Israel's knowledge to commit attack in an attempt to sink the ship with all of the crew destroyed so America would have another "Remember the Maine" propaganda to begin the new war in the Middle East to the Zionists' perverse jubilation.
John McCain continues to actively deny that Israel had intention and defend the foreign power as a good friend. For this, he is a genuine traitor undeserving of the Republican presidential nomination.
The Zionists think they have us by the balls, but we know. They are evil and should be dealt with harshly in the future.
We'll let Iran and Syria take care of it when these nations are messed with.
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Let's hope for a fluke, Q. Who knows, maybe Hayden will leave his briefcase in the powder room. In the meantime, here's some more follow up on it. Follow through to the 'Summary of Attack' . This stuff ought to be used for
a whole chapter in every U.S. high school history book.
Rather than waiting forever for NSA to drop their drawers,
I just want to keep stuffing this in certain particular faces,
until they suffocate on it and vomit up the awful truth.
"they knew EXACTLY who we were", alright...
and guess why ?
because a little birdy told 'em , that's why.