Jesus Was Not a Jew
We know that Saul was the first king of Israel and that John was the first man called Baptist, but who was the first Jew? Neither Adam, Seth or Noah are called Jew. Nor were Abraham, Isaac or Jacob. Moses was not called a Jew and neither were Saul, David or Solomon called Jew. In fact you will not find the word Jew in the first eleven books of the Bible. The first time Jews are mentioned in the Bible, is in II Kings 16:6 (and then only in translations revised in the eighteenth century) where we find Israel was at war with the Jews and drave the Jews from Elath.
It is interesting to note that we can read over five hundred pages of the Bible before we find a Jew anywhere, yet those who call themselves Jews today claim the first five books of the bible and call it their Torah. It is rather strange that those who claim to have written the first five books of the Bible and call themselves Jews, can't find the word Jew written anywhere in the book they call their own bible, and claim to have written.
We know that God changed the name of Abram to Abraham in Genesis 17:5, and that He changed the name of Jacob to Israel in Genesis 32:28, but nowhere in the Bible do we find where God changed the name of Israel to Jew!
There is therefore no authority by which those who say they are Jews can claim to be Israel!
By the time of Jesus the word Edom or Edomite had been translated by Greek and Latin into Ioudaios and Iudaeus meaning a Judean or person living in Judea. The original King James version of the Bible, 1611, translated Idumaean-Judean into Iewes. It wasn't until the revised editions of the King James Bible, that the word Jew appeared. The word Jew does not mean Israel or Israelite! We must conclude therefore that the first "Jews" were Canaanite-Edomite-Hittite. It is certain, according to the Bible, that Jews are not Israel.
John Standring - http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jesusjew.htm
What Thx1138 says - http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/2101
“One other thing… you wrote, (Rhiannon):“and that is why this Jesus being a ‘jew’ and ‘jewish prophets’ idiocy has become so deeply engrained into the minds of religious scholars who have been intellectually SWINDLED.”
Thx1138: "I doubt they have been swindled. I regard most Christians as voluntary collaborators. Some are warmongering Zionists, but others collaborate by living in a dream world created by militant Jews and their allies. If they were to read and inform themselves, they would no longer be swindled, but they choose to not "wake up from their slumber.""
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Esau: I wholeheartedly agree. The Christian clergy have aggressively been “Purchased” for their services and spread forth these ambiguous tales about Jesus being a Jew to their congregations It is no wonder ALL Zionists and Christian Zionists are emphatic about Jesus being a Jew. There is a definite agenda going on. - but I also believe that there are some people, Christians and Muslims alike who really don't have a clue.
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What MonkeyZerg says - http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/599
– “Moses, Jesus, and all the prophets in between that were sent to the tribe of Israel, can be described as being ethnically Israelite, and religiously monotheistic/God-fearing/etc. They weren't Jewish in the sense that Judaism is actually the religion based on the later teachings of the Rabbis, and not purely on the teachings of the prophets."
MonkeyZerg:
"As for Esau being the father of the Christians. If you're a Christian and have read the Bible and read all the stories about Esau, then it’s obvious he wasn't the 'father of the Christians'. Esau was Jacob's twin brother, and Christianity is based on faith, you don't have to be born Christian. Please realize that everything I was talking about in my comment was according to Judaic sources. It is Judaism that regards Esau to be the father of the Christians, which is something not supported by the Bible or by non-Jews. I was just pointing that out to explain why the Kabbalistic tract talked about Esau, Ishmael, then Jesus and Mohammed."
(Link supplied in his post - http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/talmud1.htm)
MonkeyZerg:
"In the secret books, which are not permitted to fall easily into the hands of Christians, they say that the soul of Esau came into Christ, that he was therefore evil and that he was Esau himself......Again, I'm not saying or agreeing with Christians being 'sons of Esau', just like I'm not saying or agreeing that Jesus and Mohammed are in hell. You'll be surprised how often religious Jewish writers refer to the Biblical history of Esau, Jacob, and Ishmael, and say that these struggles continue today with Esau representing the Christian world, Jacob the Jewish world, and Ishmael the Muslim world. I've read these things many times over the years.
Here's just one example, from a Judaic article titled the Two Faces of Esau" ----->
http://meaningfullife.com/currentevents/gulfwar/Two_Faces_of_Esau.php
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Esau: The link above illustrates some of the hobgoblin baloney we are saturated with in these contemporary times. I would like to further note that there is no evidence in the bible where Isaac, Ishmael, and Jacob did not get along. Yes there were definite dissensions with Esau.
And so.....
Amalek/Esau/Zionists are the actual linkages -especially of today- (most assuredly in spirit above all else).
The Zionists are the true Amalek.
And again I agree with what MonkeyZerg had to say here:
"Many Jews use this lens to explain Christian and Muslim animosity to Jews as being something they inherited from biblical figures. It's poor little Jacob against 'hairy, cunning' Esau and 'wild, sword against the world' Ishmael."
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Absolutely. It's that cunning "We are victims" song again.
http://carmenisacat.blogspot.com/
Well you see, the Y chromosome of men is passed relatively unchanged through male lineages.
The prophets all descend from Adam, through Nuh and down on through Abraham to Ismael, Jacob and Isaac.
I have little doubt that when the time comes, the proof will be in the pudding so to speak (the nutfa) or rather, "the despicable fluid" from which we all issue. The sperm.
When Jesus was introduced into the paradigm, the rights to actual prophethood were literally removed from the Hebrew line by Allah. It was truly, a coup d'tat. Made everyone really anxious to the point that a few hundred years later, they had to attempt to trump Allah by naming Jesus as God incarnate. That way, the upcoming prophet Mohamed would have a pretty rough time convincing the critical mass of his prophethood.
I'd say we's been lied to and for a very long time.
Peace on all the prophets and their progeny.
Abraham was not a Jew.
Isaac (the son of Abraham) is known as Israel in the Bible.
Isaac had many sons and they went on to become the heads of different tribes of Israel.
One of the tribes became Judea, or Jew....it does not mean that Jesus was a Jew, though he was from the tribe of Israel.
Jesus WAS a JUDEAN, NOT A JEW.
TODAYS JEWS ARE...
EDOMITE's and various indigenous tribes around Edom. They are ESUA. Edomites come from Esua!
They are also KENITES. Who's nefarous forefather was CAIN (see in history where they assimilated into the southern tip of Judea during King Davids reign). And just lately (740AD), the Khazars are on the bandwagon, hoping to collect on the "chosen-people" title.
You see, 95% of Jews are not from Judea, but are IN TOTAL TRUTH Kenites, Edomites, Hittites and Khazars.
BUT THE WORLD IS TO FUCKING STUPID TO READ< LEARN and thereby defend itself.
"I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"...Voltaire
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