there's not much to see here....

Not worth a comment

I guess Im a thief for wanting to steal my country back.

Anyone that calls people haters for pointing out the origin of the hate and doesnt even attempt to look into it is a Jew in my opinion. That means you!

"We all killed Jesus" Bill OReilly and Mel Gibson

I must admit, I often cringe at some of the things I see posted here lately (though I never did when Qrswave was doing most of the posting on her own, I'd hasten to add).

I think a lot of it comes from powerlessness. We can't stop this Anglo-Jewish Military-Industrial Central-Banking Media Monstrosity that's got us collectively by the scruff of the neck here and now today, so the temptation is to mangle the monstrosity in print in cyberspace. It may be temporarily satisfying, but other than that the only thing it's likely to do is get you on a list somewhere in the homeland cyber-security archives.

But a question for you, Ellen: Did you see what those heroic pieces-of-shit from the IDF, on the orders of the almost-human current leadership of Israel did to Lebanon last northern summer? Or not?

..because that would be anti-shemitic, and we've all been schooled in racism by abe foxman and the TerrorVision!

Ellen.

your either a so-called Jew who wishes to propogate Israel the fascist nation.

Or you have no idea of the realities set forth in this world.

Start out perhaps by reading more then your local High School history books and perhaps peel yourself away from the spoon feeding Fox or CNC news networks love to give your kind.

in the name of ALLAH the Punisher

1>
She uses the most heinous words for the expressed ideas of other people:
"this whole blogsite is filled with anti semitic/anti israel shit"
Yet she constantly accueses others of "Hate" crimes!
2> She is proud of growing in a liberal family and yet she syas:
i was raised to believe that it was conservatives who were the hatefilled ones who spread lies about people who were different from them
Perhaps by "Liberal" she means to be free of being sympathic with the slayed people of palestine.
3> how do you all rationale such hate--besides telling lies about israe/jews ?
The most insulting prejudice about others it to proclaim that all your answers to my questions are "lies" unless they are in accordance to my views.
4> anti semitic/anti israel
By simply using a slash"/" she equates anti-semitic and anti-israel !
Would you please tell us who is more semitic: German Jews or Arabs?
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Do you know what is enough?
Centuries of lieing is enough. Thousand of years of hiding the truth is enough. The most villain forms of Porno is enough. The most blood sucking forms of usury is enough. Being in war with God the Maker is enough.

We are no longer afraid of jews weapons. All we want is justice for everybody.
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A little question from the so called liberals: Do you agree with forceful ways of collecting taxes?

Trusting on Allah the Omnipotent is enough for us.

If half of this is true, its worth 30 or 40 bucks, right?

(Ill assume you agree).

So - go to this website http://www.come-and-here.com

It contains an english talmud (the bible of judaism). Study the stuff and talmud refernces... then go to EBAY.

On EBAY put in "Soncino Talmud". You will find pdf copies being sold by some jewish dude. It should cost about 30 bucks or less.

Buy it - and see if its real.
you can go here too..
http://www.daatemet.org/articles/article.cfm?article_id=119&lang=en

study this stuff for a bit and get back to us.

best wishes
geeez

It's not about hate. It is about self defence and defence of innocent people. If you are just trying to distract then do not bother. If you are starved of material critical of Israel and Judeo-supremacism then try some of the above and maybe also:

Finkelstein

(It was the liar Dershowitz who torpedoed his tenure)

ex IDF guys

A good 911 piece is:

stranger than fiction

I don't think anyone here thinks that all Jews are the enemy. That would be pretty silly it seems to me. It is rather more likely that a relatively small band of criminals take advantage of, and reinforce, Jewish clanship via media manipulation. I could be wrong of course but having known a few Jews (and Muslims) myself I reckon the people who hate the "goyim" or the "kafir" are a minority.

http://carmenisacat.blogspot.com/

Goyim refers to someone not in a certain ethnic group. Kafir refers to someone who for whatever reason does not believe in the Creator and Originator. Ethnicity is not chosen but belief is a choice. And to be a Kafir means a person either is openly one (an athiest) or a secreted one (the person may not even be aware of it and may in fact perform the outward rituals without incorporating those into their moral development due to actual arrogance to Allah).

Two completely different things. Please make a note of it.

"I don't think anyone here thinks that all Jews are the enemy.

Correct .

Its simple.
If you are a Jew in religion (talmud), then you are my enemy.

Otherwise i give you the benefit of the doubt.
(but im not going into business with you.. sorry)

Ellen's comments follow the old, worn Zionist pattern: Israel or Jews cannot be criticized, as any criticism by definition is anti-semitic. We cannot be fooled any longer by this trick!

We want to see justice being served the same way to anybody, whoever they are, but we know that this is not the way that the Zionists want it. If I am not mistaken it was Sharon who said: "We may judge others, but we would never allow others to judge us!"

That is as close you will ever get to the definition of racism.

Last summer's Israeli destruction of Lebanon was a crime, this week's violation of Lebanese airspace was a crime, the destruction and theft, which is performed every day of every week by illegal Jewish settlers in Palestine are crimes, the wall preventing Palestinian farmers from farming their land is a crime, the "targeted assassinations" of Palestinians are crimes, so do not tell us that our anger vented against Israel and the people serving this evil state is racially motivated!

We want prosecution of the guilty, not persecution of the innocent. And stop considering yourselves as the persecuted, you are the aggressive ones, you are the destroyers, who trick and force others to let their blood to serve your evil schemes!

[Made Brani]
"Ellen's comments follow the old, worn Zionist pattern: Israel or Jews cannot be criticized, as any criticism by definition is anti-semitic. We cannot be fooled any longer by this trick!"

Oh I agree. This is just one part of their usual and worn out MO.

What is amazing about Sharon is his absolute arrogance. "We can criticize you but you can't critize us".

It's hard to tell who created who: did Sharon create israel or did israel create sharon?

maggieporter, chill, I am aware of the distinction (I belong to both groups for what it is worth)

geeez - I guess you may agree with Ed Steele. All I know is I have liked all the Jews and Muslims I have known but the sample size is quite small. There are bad guys in all races and religions. I think there is a case that Jews cause a hugely disproportionate amount of trouble in the world but I have to say that is in part due to their disproportionate acheivements (although some of those may be down to clanship and fraud)

Ed Steele's take

What does the original poster make of all this?

We are at risk of arguing over relative trivia whilst Rome burns. I have tried posting on relatively mainstream blogs but it doesn't work.

That is why I tend to agree with Jim Condit Jr and Ed Griffin, even though Griffin is suspect as he does not complain about Zionism. They think that the only way any progress can be made is for grass roots people to try to take more positions of control in the existing power structures rather than somehow awakening the masses.

Any thoughts?

http://carmenisacat.blogspot.com/

I only made a point and said take note of it. It is a good point and a valid one in the context.

As far as Jew Bashing..well. This site IS full of it on that level. Most Jews are not even religious anymore and are as likely as anyone else to make the grassroots decision to join our party so to speak i.e. Islam. And from what I can see, the chances of some posters here of doing that are very unlikely because like you said, there are an equal proportion of good and bad wherever you look with the exception of a place called Israel. I cannot really fathom how they can stand to look in the mirror to be honest and some of them in fact can't. Some of them are leaving Israel but I wouldn't say it is a mass exodus.

Patience. This is a long standing plan for the human race and you cannot expect most people to change until they see enough disasters. Some people are already turning to religion for their answers (look at old Tony Blair would you!) but it still isn't bad enough. Hard to believe but it still isn't nearly as bad as it will get and that truly scares me.

So no need to tell me to chill out. I had to clarify that point for you because it is the truth and I'd hate to think that people actually read something like that and file it away in their neurons and call it a rational comparison.

And remember there is a golden rule in Islam: Good people for good people and Bad people for bad. It is a natural quarantine but sometimes it takes people a bit of time to realize they were being asked to make a choice about their loyalties.

Peace

http://carmenisacat.blogspot.com/

And certainly some of you (probably that nut Ellendra) have heard of it.

It says (to paraphrase) that there will come a time that a Jew will hide behind a tree and the tree will speak and say: Here is a Jew, come kill him.

Well. That has so many interpretations but the one I prefer is that it is an observation, NOT AN ORDER to kill them or persecute them.

They are as welcome in Islam as anyone else.

http://carmenisacat.blogspot.com/

And let's not forget the French Revolution. The Reign of Terror which, in the aftermath, the good guys even turned against the good guys in a frenzy of richochet hatred.

This is no different really.