I recently had a discussion with a rather 'big in cyberspace' so called moderate Muslim Irfan Yusuf http://aussiemossie.blogspot.com/ who says things like Zionists do not control the world and only paranoid, sad, lazy and underclass Muslims like me think otherwise.

I decided he is either a Zionist shill or a very naive Muslim who has been indoctrinated by the Zionists, to see, hear and speak no evil about Zion and Zionists.

According to the Quran Maggieporter the Pharoah was given power. Why if Allah only has power is Pharoah described as having power in the Quran?

It cannot be that power is given to people (good and bad) by Allah surely?

Zionists do have preeminent power with their money system and usury...this power has been lent to them by Allah swt, so that they can live up to their destiny and face the consequences. It is the job of the believers (the Muslims) to fight against the disbelievers and their corrupt system and to establish Justice in trade and money.

Muslims do not approve of Zionist corruption and injustice as you seem to do.

1)======== jews

Not everyone who thinks the zionists are just "scared out of their wits" (like maggie) is a closet-zionist. In fact most people I know (uninterested hedonists) think this is the case.
Even a lot of "Muslims" (who claim to be Muslim) still think in a Western dictated, criticism against jews is antisemitism, and democracy is the undisputed religion, way.

So that aspect (jews are just like the most of us) of Maggie is not very surprising.

All jews I know personally are really just like the rest of the wage slaves. There was even one jewish couple that went to some poor area in some foreign country and help build the community there.
However when you look at what the elite-jews/zionists and those sicko neocolonists in Israel do to other humans its just inexcusable. And when people here mention "jews" they mean them.

2)======== vocal about Islam

It is usually the ones that had a rotten life before Islam that are maybe too enthusiastic about telling other people about how great Islam is.

P1)====================
The strange thing about Maggie (especially since she lives in Lebanon) is that she criticizes Christians hard while ignoring the far greater impact of the zionists and what the Quran states about a lot of "the people of Israel" many times ignoring the commandments of God, whining to Him even when they had it good.

Of course the "the people of Israel" that did obey God and did not slaughter their own prophets are among the best of humans. Being surrounded by scum and all.

!Of course! you cannot hold people (jews) accountable for actions of their grandparents but if they keep on repeating the same mistakes and arrogant behavior they have brought it on themselves.

P2)==========
So I am not sure about maggie's intentions. I hope she just sees this is not really getting us anywhere.

http://carmenisacat.blogspot.com/

The only people offended by inviting Jews to Islam dear...

are other Jews.

http://carmenisacat.blogspot.com/

Only Allah has the power to enrich or straighten a person or a country. Allah gives people "enemies" in order to try them (like this person here is given to me as a test).

This blogger that tells you that Zionists don't control anything is absolutely right and one day perhaps you will understand that. Maybe not now.

While I am at it though...here you go Ellendra. Try these movies. Watch em and note my favorite one is the one in which it shows the figure "six million" cropped up in a Reader's Digest article in the middle of WWII. The figure was made up by a scriptwriter.

And YOU all calm down. Stop occupying yourself ENTIRELY with hatred and start occupying yourself with a little reading so that you too can pull rabbits out of yer hats.

Peace

Holocaust Denial Movies

1. Treblinka, Sobibor, Belzec2. The Well3. Hair Cut4. Engine Exhaust5. Nuremberg Trial6. Gassing Building7. Abraham Bomba, Treblinka Barbar8. Eliyahu Rosenberg9. Reader's Digest and Ben Hecht10. Ridiculous Experiments11. Treblinka Burial Space12. Belzec Burial Space

My personal favorite is the Reader's Digest film. Precious.

Poor old Messiah.

http://carmenisacat.blogspot.com/

...is because it is a free blog. Personally, having been accused so often and so publically as being anti semitic...I am a bit more careful than some of you who are "new" to this struggle.

The ways that the IOR is being used by the American government against this blog are sure apparent to me. This MP persona is a further continuation of what else.

The cash for Spook work against this Blog is easily seen.

Why is also easy to see. Just like having to see a person through there mask with only the things they say. The more they say the easier it is to see through the mask.

Now as for whoever is Doing this work they will not go with out notice of there deeds. Many in this thread are wise to the unsure logical footing and motives of this MP persona. The Motives and the time spent point to Spook stuff 100%. It says it's here because it's free. I think it's here to cause trouble. A level of trouble that i will add mostly is the realm of CIA type diaper eaters.

First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

Zionists control banking, money, politicians and the mass media, this is easily verified and even admitted to by Jews in their own media designed for Jew audiences.

I do not deny the obvious. You do exactly that.

Maggie has 22 posts since Daryl has been absent from his MP3 work. Either he is getting a briefing or he is occupied with other work. I don't know for sure but the MP posts stink. Stink and Stink some more.

So Who knows about it's ID. Same issues Daryl has This MP ID has That is -0% creditability. And getting your info from personas like this MaggiePorter one without a tough look at there motives is a dangerous thing to do if you don't want to help "Them" do there evil work..

This lot is very well trained. VERY well paid. And most of all they have a large amount of NSA help to hide behind.

I recommend that everyone read the PDF Information Operations Road map" document.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB177/info_ops_roadmap.pdf

Read SERIOUSLY between the lines in this one. Once you see YOU SEE.

Well seeing for your self is the only way. The "Internet" like it or not is a MILITARY network folks. At the root All major industries are.

First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

I've been reading here for some time and made a few comments where no one else seemed to have an answer.

I've been watching the person in question here since the first post I read.

I think its a Jew pretending to be a Muslim.

This is not the first place they have done this either.

Like the Jews holding up the signs 'Behead those who say Islam is violent' they get in front of the cameras and distract the people from the subject.

Results are what matters. Look at the results. Don't let yourself fall into the dichotomy.

OT Christian

http://carmenisacat.blogspot.com/

So now I'm on the payroll too?

You people are truly crazy. Not to mention vicious.

Everyone here will notice the same sort of response to the claims that Spook is there job. Same like all the others seen here and thousands of other places like this. Shills are not doing anything other than exposing the under-organs of the military industrial complex.

Control of Our ability to communicate is there goal and they do a good job of it if we let them.

Now i did say you were on the government tit yes.

And i Sure did notice that DBS and his Crue vanished to clear the way for YOUR GooSpue time here. A connected spook getting her new job under her. Daryl is too transparent so someone from that floor at the Spook den will have to step in. And now MP is the new replacement. Wanna bet her boss is turning the screws for results at it's blog o whatever.

Qrswave i would just say this sooner or later we are gong to have to deal with this bunch. Daryl is or i should say WAS the first but this lot is targeting US for telling the truth. So i guess that means we have to expose them DIRECTLY when EVER they poke there heads up to root for Diapers to eat.

I would not touch a single post i have put up about Daryl. And i would NEVER remove something like that MP post that a few want removed. How else are others not here now ever going to get the message about his lot without a thread like 1154 to find and read to learn the methods of dreck like Smith and Porter.

First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

"So now I'm on the payroll too?"

A blog is exactly what I would expect from a Zionist disinfo agent.

But you don't even need to be paid, do you?

http://carmenisacat.blogspot.com/

I must be truly good at what I do. I even laid the groundwork on other sites like Ron Silliman's site. Laid some other groundwork too somewhere else...I literally went "under cover" and pretended to be this great poet and was making some actual headway with my career as a poet. But duty to my "trade" forced me to abandon the poetry (faked of course) I was pawning off as real so that I could get a bunch of really famous poets to harrass the crap out of me.....

....all just so I could come to this site and overthrow your "whatever".

Oh pulease.

http://carmenisacat.blogspot.com/

Yeah...and part of my pre overthrow groundwork I entered my work in a few places. I was pretty surprised by my first place win in the IBPC the very first time I allowed one of my precious babies to be entered (as a favor to a good friend who needed some PR for their site). Took me totally by surprise because I generally poo poo poetry contests but having the judge compare my voice to Chekov was a bit excessive. There it is, October 2006:

http://webdelsol.com/IBPC/archive2006.htm

I was even more surprised when a poet emailed me recently to inform me that the poem had actually won honorable mention in their widely renowned little "workshop" contest...I didn't however appreciate the poetry professor saying that my voice is a bit "goofy". I am far from goofy as you can see and am actually quite serious about what I do.

But back to the rest of the story of my life as an internet poet imposter cum Jew lover...

I decided it might be a good idea to go out and have a poster made with my name on it a few months ago:

Problem is...I ended up having to not only give a poetry reading on the radio but in front of a live audience as well.

It was really difficult getting up on the stage to read the poem "To Beirut" without crying but I did it. The prologue to the poem is my HS fight song but instead of ending it with the usual words "win this game", I ended it with "win this war" and shook my red and white pompoms like a real cheerleader. It so moved one woman that she rushed up to me and told me that I got a standing ovation. Man. The things a girl goes to to overthrow a free bloggie site.

Basically though, I started creating this fake poet persona several years ago..twenty five or more years ago when I also concocted a plan to marry a wonderful and dreadfully handsome Lebanese boy from a village. I truly faked him out..he still thinks I love him..what an idiot. My first published piece was actually in a journal right after September 11th and it is called Watching Men Drown. I don't feel like overworking my fingers though to go hunting for it right now but instead I'll link you to a piece that took me TEN WHOLE YEARS TO FAKE. Man..that one was billed right alongside old silly Ron Silliman's work...and for a fake poet hell bent on destroying "the sympathy" and warm fuzzy feelings Ellendra has created on this board for you...I almost convinced myself I stood a chance at actually being a published poet one day knowing full well that sooner or later some one was gonna find me out and refuse to publish such a pro Israeli poet:

http://www.argotistonline.co.uk/Porter%20poem.htm

Not bad though for faking my whole life story just so I could come and ruin all the fun you people seem to be having (not).

You ablaze yet young lady? I certainly hope so.

I found that Maggie Porter's story seems to check out, and I believe she has just misunderstood the purpose of this site.

There is a Maggie Porter from Lebanon, whose April 23, 2002 article "Watching Men Drown" was posted to the carmenisacat blogspot.

In October 2004, she described her occupation as homemaker / retired nurse / poet, and stated that "talking about philosophy and politics" was one of her interests, as she has amply demonstrated here! Her location then was given as Beirut.

Then there is the Maggie Porter-Swaid who posts to a Lebanese forum and whose address as of December 2006 was Arizona. In one of her posts there she wrote of how Christians are supposedly not capable of seeing "the big picture" that Muslims are capable of seeing after they have "studied the world and the world's religions".

That is all consistent with her life story given on June 23 about marrying a man from south Lebanon that she met down by the AZ / Mexican border over 25 years ago, living in Saudi Arabia for many years and then relocating to Beirut, leaving last year courtesy of the US military and now back in Lebanon for 2 months to reconnoiter with their family and belongings.

It seems to me that this forum is supposed to be about gathering evidence of, and exposing, the most serious atrocities, crimes and injustices in the modern world. And when one researches into this, the Khazars are found to be heavily over-represented amongst the perpetrators. The Khazars, nominally "Jewish" although often secular, employ a political ideology known as "Zionism". Zionism is a program to transfer wealth and power into the hands of a psychopathic criminal elite, the eventual goal being enslavement and impoverishment of the "goyim" majority. The Zionist program includes a colossal fraud whose purpose was to obtain a sovereign state that would serve to concentrate power in the hands of the evil elite, and deceptions such as false-flag terror attacks that are used as casi (plural of casus) belli: pretexts for waging a number of wars on false pretenses.

It would not be very useful to have people arguing over religion. In fact, that would be playing into the hands of the criminal Zionist elite who are only too pleased to see Muslims fighting Christians or Jews fighting Muslims, etc. I'm an atheist, or even an antitheist, but it wouldn't be productive to go around insulting people's religions and telling them that they're all idiots. Because one side uses a science-based epistemology, and the other a faith-based epistemology, each are unlikely to resolve their differences. Similarly, we should not write off everyone of some particular race as all bad.

The demarcation should be on grounds of ethics rather than ethnics or religion. Some people are just plain bad: they believe in killing, maiming, raping, assaulting and stealing from others for power, profit and pleasure. Most of us, from all manner of races and religions or philosophies, are not like that.

It's not "Jews" who control the world, it's a psychopathic criminal elite of organised Zionists. If a Muslim believes that "Allah" is ultimately behind events, then that's okay, but a person making such statements would tend to alienate themselves from those who do not believe that. Sometimes, in some places, statements such as "Allah controls the world" are better left unsaid.

She keeps bringing up Ellendra. This is my blog.

I am RHIANNON.

Your games are silly, and won't work. For someone who is a converted "muslim" and for someone who knows the works of God so well - the QURAN - I have observed that you are completely BOGUS.

Your own posting tells on you.

I can't help it if you think all the other bloggers [beginning to see through you] are Ellendra.

Your obsession with Ellendra like all your other obsessions - such as LONG WINDED POSTS OF SELF ABSORBED IMPORTANCE - clearly tell on you.

And STILL you have not answered my question.

You haven't answered any of my questions. NONE. Now I have a new one to ask....

What defamatory remarks are you accusing Ellendra of?

You are the one that comes on here all full of arrogance and know-it-all - you who knows about Islam, so you say.

I posted items from the Quran and you couldn't reply in a decent manner.

Now Chris Marlowe hasn't posted in a while but when you read his response to you he is a damned better Muslim than you could hope to be - unbeknownst to him.

I am NOT ever going to sit back and let someone like you get away with bullying tactics and badgering a Christian about his drinking habits, fasting, about the Christian Faith, Jesus, and then dare to say that Islam has it over on Christianity.

Do not project on people what you have suffered in the past. Your life is your responsibility and yours alone. Preaching to others is sick, sad and foolish.

If you need to do this there are by far better avenues of which to choose from.

But you do this here.

WHY?

And still you do not answer about the IDF scared out of their minds that they have to shit all over your linens.

This gives you away. I don't care if you are a zionist in muslim clothes or a muslim in zionist clothes. I don't even care that you are from Lebanon and Poseidon says your past checks out!

That is hardly the point for me!

The way you came on here and the things you have said in your posts causes me to wonder about your intentions.

Come now MP....you are so intelligent...tell me why you think the IDF are just a bunch of scared little boys.

http://carmenisacat.blogspot.com/

For confusing the two of you.

I hope you enjoy ALL the words I've sent in YOUR direction then.

Rhiannon. Listen to Fleetwood Mac alot or is that your real name?

One thing for sure, mine is really Maggie Porter and I'm a bit more famous than you and because I am a well known anti zionist poet who enjoys hundreds of reads per day, I might actually have to expose this blog in my usual style of outing mysteriously ugly people in the world.

And that would be you. Look before you leap and holster your weapon girlfriend.

I am way out of your league. I'm the real deal. In fact I've had such a strange life that one writer once asked if she could write a book about me. I refused that as well because I don't believe in the life of this world. This is an illusion and if you'd stop being such a paranoid person you might actually learn how to visualize in that direction and take some of the pressure off of yourself in your quest to "destroÿ Zionism" single handedly.

I didn't do anything to either one of you and Ellendra started this...maybe you and her are one and the same. Like I said...you two look alot more trollish to me (an experienced on line combatant) than anyone I've met in my forays into internet dialogue.

Like I said..the only people who become alarmed at a muslim inviting Jews to Islam are other JEWS. You need to know that so next time you covert that side of your hidden agenda if you know what that is or means. And apparently you don't or you would know I don't have one.

http://carmenisacat.blogspot.com/

I don't owe you ANY explanations. What I owe you is a lawsuit.

Give me a break.

Someone said that zionist Jews don't run America? Run England? run Europe?

MP you actually believe that?

Lets start with a simple quote:

"It was impossible to hold the line. All we got was a battering from the Jews."
--John Foster Dulles, Secretary of State, 1956

Verifiable quotes abundant to anyone actually "knocking";

"We Jews have spoiled the blood of all the races of Europe. Taken as a whole, everything is Jewdified. Our ideas animate everything. Our spirit reigns over the world. We are the Lords."

- Dr. Kurt Munzer, The Way to Zion.

Who runs the world banks my dear MP?

"The bank hath benefit of interest on all moneys which it creates out of nothing."
William Paterson (Founder of Royal English Bank in 1694).

If you have the slightest education in matters beyond CNN & Fox you should be well aware of the power and the nefarious skulldugger of the IMF and World Banks. Dare I give you a list of who boards these "affluent" organizations?

Shall we go into the Israel Lobby and its power in America? Should anyone dare discuss AIPAC and its overpowering influence on American foreign policy? thereby by defacto the WORLD POLICY???!!

Maier Amschel Rothschild said:
"Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation and I care not who writes its laws"

“We will have a world government wether you like it or not. The only question is whether that government will be achieved by conquest or consent.” (Jewish Banker Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, as he testified before the U.S. Senate).

"I fear very much that the Jews are like all underdogs. When they get on the top they are just as intolerant and cruel as the people were to them when they were underneath. I regret this situation very much because my sympathy has always been on their side." Harry Truman

The Rothschild family is definitely Ashkenazi Jewish, and madame Rothschild herself once said "if my sons didn’t want wars, there would be no wars,"

Perhaps MP could take herself to the uneducated and it might actually work there. There's a million or more victims out there waiting for you and your kin to suck on.

If you believe those soldiers shit all over your house cause they was afraid, you got shit for brains.

"I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"...Voltaire

Why are you above suspicion?

This is a relatively anonymous forum, you could be anyone.

Given your words in this forum and what you have said, it is beginning to look as if you are very suspicious and have a massive question mark hanging over you.

This can quite easily be removed if you remain within the focus of this argument.

You clearly said Jews do not have power, only God does...then you said God creates enemies but still jews do not have power. Not only are your assertions vague but they are false too.

In your opinion when you say jews have no power and only god does, do you have any power? The power to type on the keyboard for instance or is God doing that too?

Your theology and politics are totally mixed up and confused.

Do all human beings have equal power or do some individuals and or groups have more power than others? Does a billionare jew have less or equal power to influence and shape world events to a single landless peasant, or a ghetto dweller in a US city?

Why does the Quran (and as a Muslim I would expect a thorough explanation of this from you), repeatedly say that the Bani Israel (tribe of Israel) were given power and because of their corruption and insolence they were punished?

A simple statistical look at the number of jews in positions of influence and power in corporations or as key personnel within finance and banking will reveal that jews disproportionately dominate, despite theit low population they are in positions of power in a world which is largely populated by non Jews. This is no accident and they have their own agenda which they push.

That instead of pointing out such obvious facts you want to hide them behind a dubious theology and political mask makes you very suspicious.

At the moment in the world the greatest evil which should be given top priority by all Muslims is the issue of Just trade and monetary freedom and Justice...because this is the cause of many injustices NOW and should be addressed, you however do not just want to bury this, or render it invisible you also want to focus on non essential matters (as a distraction), and you want to pretend that you have this great theology which only allows you to recognize that all power is in the hands of God and the Jews are innocent!

This makes you very suspicious, I would only expect a Psy-Ops operative, or a very devious crypto jew to say such things.

You have not offered one shred of evidence to counter the claim that jews do not run the media.
"Four of the largest five entertainment giants are now run or owned by Jews. Murdoch's News Corp (at number four) is the only gentile holdout -- however Rupert is as pro-Israel as any Jew, probably more so."
Los Angeles Jewish Times,
'Yes, Virginia, Jews Do Control the Media,' Oct. 29-Nov. 11, 1999 p. 14

"Time-Warner, Disney, Viacom-CBS, News Corporation and Universal rule the entertainment world in a way that the old Hollywood studio chiefs only dreamed of. And, after all the deals and buyouts, four of the five are run by Jews. We're back to where we started, bigger than ever."
Jewish Week,
9-17-99, 12]

A whirlwind of self-indulgent speech adding up to less than zero. This from all her posts above. NO points made, just a bunch of self-absorbed GUFF. Naturally I will not get any answers.

and in between all this haze of self-flattery, and false extremist "muslim" yammer...MP manages to sandwich in sympathies for the devil...

and so still I wonder...

WHY does MP say "the Jews".

Why?

This website isn't necessarily about the Jews.

90% of this website is about Zionism and its history, Christian zionism, israeli terrorists, neocons, American and israeli policies.

Different words but the same idea.

But she just says: the "jews".

She says: "leave the jews alone".

She says: "we are all paranoid".

She says: "stop attacking the "jews".

Well zionists say that sort of thing. Ignorant fools say that sort of thing.

I've seen it all before. And it is called distraction and distortion.

Many times I have had dialogue with several from the graduating class of zionism.

Well. I will leave at that.

For now.