‘They were targeting the children’
Hamas denies any involvement in the deaths.
The mother of the three dead boys [3, 6, and 9], Linda Balousha, 33, an accountant, was in her bedroom when she heard the shooting. Bodyguards would not let her or her husband down on to the street. "I could smell the smoke and the bullets from the window," she said."Their father started to scream: 'the children, the children,' and I saw from the window the white car was stopped, its windows were broken."
There seemed little doubt among the family yesterday that the gunmen had purposely sought to kill the children, not the father. "It wasn't a mistake," said Mrs Balousha. "They were targeting the children."
Only israelis are capable of doing this.
It could very well have been the Israeli's.
I just have some questions:
1.) If Israel is as heinous as you purport 24/7, then why would they care about a couple more children? Its not like its the first, or even the 100th time they've killed children. I understand the concept of false flag ops and psy ops, and the importance of keeping palestine divided, but those are not mentioned reasons. All that is stated is "Only israelis are capable of doing this".
2.) When does it not become the Israeli's? Is it just that there is absolutely no inter-faction fighting between Hamas and Fatah? Is that all just one enormous myth created by the western media, and al-jazeera, and pretty much every news service of the world?
I'm not saying its not possible, i'm just wondering when evidence is required, and when is it ACTUALLY Hamas, or other organizations.
-Jebus
Jebus,
In almost any situation you can ask "Who benefits" form what has transpired and that will usually be your culprits.
In this case, what does Hamas or Fatah have to gain by targeting children specifically? Not really anything that I can discern.
On the other hand, the Israelis have been given another pass with regards to negotiations with the Palestinians.
They can send a message to a guy thats nearly been assasinated 2 or 3 times. "Supposedly" its been Hamas trying to get him, so now they "supposedly" killed off his children.
What do they gain? These are two intense rival factions vying for power in Palestine. From the story cited:
"Mr Balousha had taken part in prison interrogations of Hamas fighters during a crackdown a decade ago. Several Fatah intelligence officers have been assassinated this year and only on Sunday gunmen fired shots at a convoy carrying the Hamas interior minister, Said Siyam."
-Jebus
can't you READ???
Hamas denied responsibility for the deaths.
Moreover, they both (Hamas and Fatah) declare and realize quite obviously that they have nothing to gain from a civil war.
Run along - you're annoying and offer nothing of value.
This was israel's handiwork - not Palestinians.
Fatah has responded, so I suppose they fell for the bait? If Hamas does return the attack, will it vindicate me? Or will nothing ever really prove you wrong? I'm just curious about the conditions where you could admit defeat. I would admit defeat if there were a shred of proof that this was Israel. I agree that the argument looks pretty good that it was israel, but just because something benefits someone else does not mean they had a hand in it.
-Jebus
how the hell do you know that the masked gunman who killed the judge was from Fatah and not Mossad?
Provide a link to an admission, please.
Ok, right back at you qrswave: Provide some proof that it was Mossad? hahahaha.
There are widespread reports of Fatah believing that this was Hamas work. That doesn't make it Hamas who did it, but its saying that immediatley everyone over there jumped to the conclusion that it was Hamas. I havent heard any mentions from palestinians themselves that they believe it was Israel...and you'd think that they would be the first to jump to that conclusion not? If you can provide me some links to palestinians saying it was Mossad i'll totally back down from this.
Even if you do though, its just opinion, but I will say there's a case for it being Mossad then.
-Jebus
I've been following these events for many decades and I'm certain that the shooting of the Palestinian children was a Mossad operation. It is so TYPICAL of how they do things...I was expecting something like this.
The Zionists are the only ones evil enough to do it and the only ones to benefit. The animosity between Hamas and Fatah is exactly what they want. Another of their objectives was to deflect attention away from their recent slaughter of the 17 Palestinians, especially since Desmond Tutu has become involved. If only there were more people with Tutu's courage and sense of justice, to stand up to the Jewish Supremacists and put an end to the genocide in Gaza.
So you're saying that you've been "following" these events for many decades and you "just know" that it was the Mossad? Wow, I totally believe you now.
Only Zionists are evil enough to have done this? It doesn't matter who you are, what race you are, or what belief you hold, anybody is capable of anything. I would venture to say that nearly every nation on the earth, or people group have committed some atrocity in their history that they want to forget. Or have you forgotten so readily the Intifada? Those suicide bombs killed children....so how do you feel free to claim that "only Zionists could have done this".
-Jebus
that a number of suicide bombs were in fact israeli operations to stimulate worldwide support for their continuing aggressions. Is it true? I don't know. Is it possible - hell, yeah.
And you are wrong - not anyone can do something like this.
It takes someone with a unique ideology to commit acts like this.
Of course, Zionists aren't the only ones in history or the world who espouse this supremacist ideology of total contempt for human life.
But, in this case, they have the means, the opportunity, and the motive.
So, it stands to reason that they would be implicated in this particularly ruthless incident.
Of course the Mossad did it. One would need to be naive or stupid to conclude otherwise! I wasn't born yesterday. The Palestinians wouldn't have killed their own children!
People only do something like that - murder children in cold blood - when they believe the children belong to a race that is less than human. For example, the Hutus in Rwanda considered the Tutsis to be "cockroaches". The Zionists consider the Palestinians to be subhuman "goyim", animals in human form.
Who had a motive? The Zionists.
Who has a history and pattern of killing children? Of deliberately targeting children? The Zionists, for example in Lebanon last summer, and obviously in Gaza then and now.
It seems that they're trying to wipe out the next generation, to create more living space for themselves.
Ok, lets assume that 80% of all the suicide bombings during the Intifada were Israeli planned. That means that Arafat was completely lying through his teeth when he decided to call the Intifada, that means that all the funerals and celebrations following a suicide bombers death were all run by the Mossad. That must have cost alot of money bribing about half the populace of Palestine to celebrate the deaths of....Mossad agents? You aren't making any sense qrswave. Palestinians did kill children, you can't avoid that fact. Does that mean they're a horrible people? Not at all. I'm just saying that "zionists" aren't the only ones capable.
As to your concern about America's future, why don't you look to America's past. I seem to recall that Americans killed hundreds, even thousands of women and children who were Native Americans back in the day. I seem to recall whole villages being killed during the Vietnam War by soldiers, whole villages being killed by the U.N. forces during the Korean War.
And what about stoning in various Islamic countries? It takes a certain kind of person to kill a 14 year old girl for having sex out of wedlock. It takes a certain kind of person to throw rocks at a womans head who was raped and then accused of adultery.
This isn't limited to Zionism.
-Jebus
I knew it would happen eventually.
We have our own resident Zionist on board.
I guess I got used to the calm after Miss R, aka, disaffected youth, aka, red tulips, stopped posting.
Come to think of it, Jebus, you sound a lot like Miss R . . .
I could care less about Israel qrswave. I simply love discussions like this, and am pointing out inaccuracies in your statements. This could be about any issue and i'd still be a critic purely because you are not mainstream media. Where else are we supposed to get our information from other than from blogs like yours? If people don't hold the media accountable, then what does it turn out like? Fox news, thats what.
I don't know who this other person is, but I assume she was being a troll. I'll try to tone myself down if you'd like, but if something seems unfactual or incorrect, i'll probably post about it.
Please refute my comments concerning killing children being limited to Zionism. I freely acknowledge that the Jews have killed many children in their time, a great many. But what I take issue with is yours and others position that ONLY ZIONISTS are capable of such actions.
-Jebus
You are correct about the Americans wiping out whole Native villages, killing children. Those soldiers were racist, they believed themselves to be of a superior race, as the Jewish Supremacists do. The same applies to Vietnam, and it was good that the Americans lost, proving they were not so superior after all...
What about the rape and murder of the 14 year old Iraqi girl and the murder of her family by the Americans? And the hundreds of thousands of other Iraqis killed, many of them children, because of America's war for Israel. But you don't feel any sympathy for Arabs, do you, Jebus? I believe YOU are capable of murdering Palestinian children.
You totally just proved my point. Zionists aren't the only ones capable of killing children. Thats all I was after. It comes from an ethnocentric point of view, which most cultures suffere from. To alot of western nations, the children who died were "just arabs". To alot of Middle Eastern nations, 9/11 was, "just some westerners".
Did I deny that the Zionists have killed children? No. Do I think they're all racists? No. I think alot of the population believes that these actions are nessecary to self preservation, and after experiencing 50 years of strife, they realy could care less. Does it justify it? No way, not a chance. I think the world needs to raise its voice against Israel to stop these actions, but to generalize their entire population as being inherently racist is completely stupid. You sound like a complete bigot when you make generalizations like that.
The same things happened in the second world war. After experiencing so much death, killing civillians became an accepted thing. Bombing entire cities was common practice on all sides and nobody cared.
I'm not sure why everyone seems to be trying to draw my personal character into this. I've stated that killing children is not a trait limited to the Jewish race. And suddenly....I too am capable of killing children? Suddenly i'm a Zionist as well? Suddenly I am willing to kill Arabs? You know absolutely nothing about my life or my friends. Please stick to the topics and issues rather than trying to figure out if i'm a woman, or a Zionist, or an Arab killer.
-Jebus
or an arab killer, we may never know.
But, you sure are dense and deceptive.
The only reason I asked if you were a woman, was in the context of the assertions you were making about women in Muslim countries. The question is pertinent to that discussion because, if you're a man, it suggests that you are not be speaking from experience.
But, being the sneaky little troll that you are, you introduce it as if we, or I, or whoever at this site, suggested that whether you're a woman or man influences your political opinions or expressions in general.
Nothing could be further from the truth - Women and men think alot alike, but they have different experiences - therefore, though they can speak for eachother, it's better to take things straight from the horse's mouth.
Now, as far as this post and discussion is concerned, you have taken us and every reader around the world and back and have not proven ANYTHING to refute the point of the post, which is that the most likely suspects in this crime are ZIONISTS.
In short, discussing things with you is useless.
Jebus, Your arguments follow some of the same patterns as Zionist trolls' arguments have in the past.
1) You try to justify Zionist war crimes by pointing out other evil deeds in history.
You mention the white Americans' crimes against the Native people, saying American settlers killed children too, and so it seems you're implying that it's okay for the Zionists to so as well. If you were sincere you would look at it a different way, and state that the Zionist ethnic cleansing is similar to what was done to the Native Americans, and that helps to illustrate what an injustice it is, and so Palestinians are justified in using whatever means necessary in order to fight back against their ruthless and genocidal enemy. The Palestinians didn't start this war, anymore than the Native Americans started the war against the Europeans. Their land was taken, they were forced to leave the places where they had lived for thousands of years, and yes, their children were slaughtered. Instead of using the past to justify what is happening in the present, we should learn some lessons from history. The rest of the world should put a stop to the Israeli ethnic cleansing.
2) You make false statements about what others believe.
You claim that I believe all Jews are racist, and that I believe there is something inherently racist about Jews. But this is not true. Not all Jews are racists, like not all Germans were Nazis. There is an organization here in Vancouver called "Jews for a Just Peace" and not only are they not racist, they actually condemn the Israeli war crimes against the Palestinians, and participate in public protests against apartheid in Palestine.
However, the Jewish Talmud does have racist passages, that goyim are "animals in human form", and so on. Some Jews don't take that seriously, the same as I, as a secular Christian, do not take the passage in Leviticus about putting homosexuals to death seriously. But many Jews do believe they are the "Chosen Race" and this is the root cause of Israeli lack of regard for non-Jewish human life.
Clearly, the leadership in Israel is a very racist, Jewish Supremacist group, but I don't think that all Jewish citizens of Israel are racists. And there are different degrees of racism: some Israelis may consider themselves superior to Palestinians, but still consider them human beings, while other Jewish Israelis think of non-Jews as vermin.
I've taken you around the world and back and proven nothing?
"Only israelis are capable of doing this."
And I brought up points of history of peoples who've killed children. Specifically the Intifada, which involved Palestinians killing children.
I'm not justifying ANYTHING, but what I don't stand for is people just making shit up about others. Only Zionists are capable of killing children is the stupidest thing i've ever heard. Get that throughy our head that i'm addressing RANDOM GENERALIZATIONS that you're making. I don't support Zionism, i've repeatedly stated that the U.N. needs to be let in to examine and prosecute for war crimes.
I don't see how pointing out that, random generalizations are what lead to misunderstands, is somehow "deceptive" and "troll-like". As I said before, if i'm coming off too strong, i'll tone it down, i'm sorry for that.
-Jebus
"Only israelis are capable of doing this."
Was meant SPECIFICALLY - in context!
You read like a five year old - or a zionist.
Take your pick.
How is this not in context? I specifically mentioned the Intifada, which Hamas was a part of, which killed Israeli children.
Israel has also killed many more children in the past.
Both have killed children, and yet suddenly, "only Zionists are capable of this".
Sounds like a logical contradiction to me.
-Jebus
ONLY ISRAELIS COULD DO THIS TO PALESTINIAN CHILDREN - YOU MORON.
Actually, it is zionists who invented child pornography. Who do you think owns and runs all that kiddie porn and the sex slave trades, not to mention the drug trades. Zionist jews from Europe and America. God's "disconnected" indeed.
Jebs you fit right into to the grime and smudge of the darkness in this world. Your tribe invented it.
Only zionists like that talk with such arrogance and hate.