Warning! Warning! Full Red Alert! Approach WUFYS with full caution!

The following warning is from the iamthewitness website.
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The website wakeupfromyourslumber.com, has turned out to be so corrupt that we advise you to not waste your time with it. The Zionist agents cannot argue with what we say, so they are either trying to ignore us and pretend we don't exist, or they are insulting us and hoping that you will dislike us. Their abuse of us is helping identify who they are; take advantage of this.
http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_16July2007.html
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Oh no! Have I been identified as a Zionist agent, by the self-proclaimed
leaders in the fight against Zionism; the intrepid Daryl Bradford Smith and his handler, Eric Hufschmid?

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doesn't even deserve a response

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qrswave | Tue, 2007-07-17 03:49

aww maaaan thats funny..
"Danger Will Robinson..Danger
..Warning..Warning.,."
hahaha

oh geeez thats funny

ROTFLMAO

Why wont they just keyboard their way over here and explain their stupid Bollyn charade...theres a simple explanation, right?

nobody wants em to be full of it..
they just keep showing us that they are..

hahaha.. geeeeeez

geeez | Tue, 2007-07-17 05:04

Dearest Daryl,

I extend my most heartfelt thanks to your for your more than kind words about me in your Monday July 16, 2007 broadcast. But really now, I don't deserve such high praise! And I mustn't forget to thank Eric Hufschmid. I am sure he had some input.

whippette | Tue, 2007-07-17 05:15

Some of the funniest turds yet Smith. (Cough,Cough)

You know the path

I just hope you walk it before it is too late Mr Sutter/Smith

First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

Masher1 | Tue, 2007-07-17 05:26

If not, then how in the world can they not feel embarrassed?

Do they even bother to think before they post (and say) some of the shit they do?

They might as well just come right on out and openly endorse Rudy Ghouliani in his run as the Anti-Liberty candidate... they too apparently feel threatened by the free exhange of (sometimes contradictory) ideas.

Meh. Oh well...

Hey, anyone know what time the O'Reilly Factor comes on?

apossumprincess | Tue, 2007-07-17 06:04
whippette | Tue, 2007-07-17 06:05

wait.. can we rewind just a second..

now, I know Daryl to be infinitely more logical and reasonable than he would appear. So the source of such hysterical lunacy is a mystery...

unless...

...to be fair, maybe it is just TFC trying their hand at satire? ...since I know I sure have tried and failed at it before (ie military summer camp, talmud salad, etc).

benefit of the doubt is in order here!

apossumprincess | Tue, 2007-07-17 06:26

thats the manager of the cult. DBS, I really dont think is the main player here. These fake fights, fake death scares, this is all Eric FesterSkunk stuff.

Where is Eric FesterSkunk?
Isnt it time for him to show up with some homoerotic graphics and put downs for us "Zionists" on this "Zionist web site"?

Where is that screen capture of him telling someone to "expose Nina".. then 4 days later saying "I never said that"...?

Where is Eric FesterSkunk?

geeez | Tue, 2007-07-17 06:41
geeez | Tue, 2007-07-17 07:12
geeez | Tue, 2007-07-17 07:13

but how do you know it's "them"?

aren't you just speculating?

anyway, whoever it is had better stop.

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qrswave | Tue, 2007-07-17 07:22
geeez | Tue, 2007-07-17 07:25

Then the payload is pasteed into the open comment windows then after all ar ready to deploy they just go across the tabs of the open and loaded comments and flush the whole lot out. This time a whole rack to flush out the recent comments. They were doing the same with a bott to hit the Mad a Hell post to the top of the popular box. I watched this for over 1.5 months.

I am going with Geeez on this. i have been thinking this for a while now.

I will add i am seeing them work HARD to post enough comments when there is a post in the recent comments box THEY don't want there. I see them doing this ALL the time.

First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

Masher1 | Tue, 2007-07-17 08:06

admin......did they leave IPs with WUFYS for you to trace?

geeez | Tue, 2007-07-17 08:30

Wheezer, you may mean well, but you're an idiot of the first order. So "it's time for some more homoerotic images" is it? I mistook your panting for your normal labored breathing - logical thought being such an enormous drain on your system's resources.

The "homoerotic" photo of Mr. Exhaust Piper was rather ridiculous, and thus I thought it apt in a discussion of the longwinded, fact-challenged waste of time known as M.C. Piper. On second thought, perhaps your steamy panting for more is confirmation that it was he, great DC gasbag, in action behind the SUV.

Knew you and Team Drool would get some real mileage out of it as you have nothing else of substance to offer.

As for me being Eric Hufschmid or the Skunk or the mastermind in some subnormal IQ fantasy of yours, refer to the opening sentence of this post. If that's a challenge you're unable to mount, then I'll repeat: you're an idiot.

In closing, and this is for adult readers who are able to distinguish between fact and opinion, regarding Smith allegedly saying that WUFYS is a waste of time, he's entitled to his opinion. From his point of view, there are too many irrelevant topics and fair too many liars/idiots in action. That's my guess.

I disagree with him, but his opinion on this in no way alters the value of what he has in his archives. The anti-TFC clowns, having produced nothing but innuendo and bullshit, are naturally flapping and running in circles with joy at having finally "proven" Smith a "Zionist agent." (Wheezer, MASHER, etc, if you snuck in and are attempting to read this part, you're busted. See previous instructions.

Fester | Tue, 2007-07-17 08:51

but he better back it up - or it reads more like defamation to me.

I have nothing against you, fester. I respect your efforts and I also value every anti-zionist piece that DBS, and whoever else works with TFC posts.

However, his latest generalised charge against WUFYS - and by extension me - is ludicrous considering I've spent the good part of over two years excoriating zionists and every vile product they bring forth.

If he has problems with the site because of comments posted about him, then he ought to make that crystal clear in his assertion and he ought to acknowledge that, as a site dedicated to free speech, there is nothing I can or should do about it beyond what I've already done.

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qrswave | Tue, 2007-07-17 09:03

You work with team TFC I think.
I think u may be the Skunk from Nola. You work closely with Hufshmid,
and, you guys basically suck.

Are you Quo Vadius too?

I dont care actually.. Im just here swing the damn chain.

Tired of TFC horseshit - smearing holo-deniers when their cause is getting popular support because of their current plight - telling people not to oppose the war because it distracts from fighting Zionism (when the wars are FOR zionism).. and all that other shit you already know. I dont feel like goin over it again.

Screw you assholes - Im here to kick your fuckin ass on a regular basis. And by god i do.

Tell those pussies to come answer some questions or have skype call ins..anything but more manipulation of otherwise good people.

You son of bitch.

geeez | Tue, 2007-07-17 09:06
whippette | Tue, 2007-07-17 09:21

This is what they do because they haven't the balls to confront any real questions. (No call ins...hence..no write ins either)

This is because they are ingenuine and, in my opinion, working for the enemy.

These are real simple questions about Bollyn and etc..... theyve been asked before. And just like now, they would rather smear an entire forum remotely, than have to answer any questions about the lies they get caught in.

Go ahead - ban me .. I wont be mad. Probly will be less trouble for u.

geeez | Tue, 2007-07-17 09:21

With all the bullsh*t innuendo coming from a select few at WUFYS, with the hundreds of posts, many pages long, all directed at TFC trio, i have no doubt why Smith would say what he did.

..just consider the support for Bollyn, and you will understand.

Grim Reaper | Tue, 2007-07-17 09:25
whippette | Tue, 2007-07-17 09:34

Shills on the internet Daryl? You don't say.

I was in stitches when Daryl got flustered at the end, frothing at the mouth, and demanded that everybody take it up a notch. What?

He’s in full meltdown mode. What a performance, bravo. Good beginning and ending, but very weak middle.

Every time a shill messes up, they try to explain, "it was only a joke! Don't u understand Jewish humor? You stupid goy prude!"

You can’t pay for better stuff than this. Imagine, FREE entertainment and ur getting an education.

duped | Tue, 2007-07-17 09:44

Dear mister Smith...I used to have a great deal of confidence and trust in you and your 'message'. I also liked a lot of your guests that you interviewed. Within the last year od so, you have managed to alienate most of your guests by your contemptous and unjustified remarks questioning their honesty and their dignity. Almost every one in the truth movement has been criticised by you and Mr. Hufschmid and it appears, sir as though you are deliberately trying to de-rail any attempts and efforts to find out who murdered almost 3000 people ( including many Americans; who still choose to live in America ). You began to loose my confidence due to your tasteless remark about Jesus Christ ( for which you did appologize ). But this 'Christopher Bollyn is missing and presumed dead' crap was a low trick to pull on your so-called followers and 'friends'. However, when you attack the web master at WUFYS... well, sir, that pretty much breaks it for me. You're a tasteless, vulgar, CON ARTIST of the highest degree! May God have mercy on your soul and forgive your ignornt, baseless, blasphemous, and uncharitable remarks. You, sir, are a cad! As I look closer at your myspace avatar, it looks like your revolutionary minute man is wearing a FRENCH uniform ( circa 1789) and carring a FRENCH musket!No wonder you chose France as your home.

Jesse | Tue, 2007-07-17 10:02

Did you and Eric make the Ben Freedman file?

If not Where did it come from?

Who did the Mp3 Encode?

What Format did you FIRST get this file?

Have you seen these LP's?

Do you have the LP's?

Come on Smith. Tell us about this?

You have been ducking my Queries for years so what of these Q:'s Daryl?

First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

Masher1 | Tue, 2007-07-17 10:23

this has nothing to do with supporting or believing Bollyn.
This has to do with Huffys con job concerning the circumstances of Bollyns absence. This has to do with lies...and watching those two ineptly dance around them and fall all over themselves. Its obvious dude..havent you seen what all the hubub is about?

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I just finished listening to the latest DBS solo-cast.

DBS - There is no way Ill ever listen to Dan Bowman, Wesley clark, or the latest 911 website du jour. I know who it is..and im not impressed with Henry Makow either.

And that poll you quote?.. that isnt mine. I think that was one of your followers trying to make it better for you. My poll has 9 choices and was specifically designed to piss you off.

But the one you are quoting..t'wern't mine man.

geeez | Tue, 2007-07-17 10:24

You have a 'show'.. right?
and.. you do 'interviews'.. right?

geeez | Tue, 2007-07-17 10:28

The POLL question-- "Do you care one way or the other whether Hufschmid tried to make it appear that Bollyn and family were dead or abducted?"
I read this question as ' do I care if Eric Hufschmid tried to deceive us about Bollyn or NOT! In other words do I care if Hufschmid is trying to pass a scam off on me or not. It doesn't automatically ASSUME Eric did : it just asks the question if we care, i.e. are we interested? Daryl, you need professional help, dude. Take Masher1's advice, pal.

Jesse | Tue, 2007-07-17 10:42

Some time ago Daryl erupted again and made a comment that religious people are mentally ill or some thing. Obviously he doesn't know that the raw data collected on this matter actually prove the opposite, both mentally and bodily. The reason being that people with a better measure of spiritual tranquility are generally healthier. From a medical point of view, religions are tools to accomplish that. Point being that Daryl sometimes lets his emotions get ahead of his intelligence.

His comment about WUFYS sounded like another temper tantrum too as he contradicts himself five minutes later. After encouraging sane people should leave WUFYS, he comes back and ask them to get on websites and defend them!

Here is my suggestion to him: just calm down, be happy and proud because: NO BODY GOES AFTER A NOBODY.

[He has good records though of letting his intelligence to catch up and rescind some of his comments.]

Kats | Tue, 2007-07-17 11:50

The more i say about my thoughts on the WTC 1&2 TMD'S and the fact that there being hidden from everyone the more i see You getting crazy sounding berserk cackling and fuming about your hidden employment troubles (Chopping Block).

So tell us here do you think the WTC had a Tuned mass damper Daryl?

Just why is i see the IATW support crue doing all they can to hide the posts about it? Be it with direct action to shuffle the recent and popular boxes to indirect watch the birdy like grade 9 shenanigans on a level so grand everyone noticed the effects and are not mis-lead to the EXACT source.. so if you will follow the path of light,you accept the fact that the problems in your face are not going away and you have work to repair the damage you have done.

Then seek in your own mind the method of your march to the light.
Understand that you are being tested. Then try to understand that Alan "Masher1" Reid does not want you to die running down a dark and twisted path to Satan. I want you to get well. I will also wish you a speedy recovery from your aliments IF you repent and do the Good things we HOPE you will do. I know that you are in a place to do some SERIOUS harm to THERE machine and i think that you ALSO get the WEIGHT of not doing the right things to this end.

No man can do evil things and not have some just punishment.

Now i will just end our times with this Mr Sutter I know that God wants all his prisoners here on planet Earth to learn the lessons of there sentence. Every human on planet HELL will remain UNTIL The lessons are learned. I see a bright and happy life for those that accept this.

I know that Death and Pain awaits ALL who ignore the way home.

I have posted this for you before but i think that in your new condition you may just have a fresh need to look at THE WAY HOME.

http://jahtruth.net/twh.pdf

The 4 things i said i thought you should do are just the start of your recovery. If you so choose to walk into the light and return to your home that is.

If not God has plenty of nasty ways to redo a sentence of the unwilling to do good

Plenty.

First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

Masher1 | Tue, 2007-07-17 13:05

The website wakeupfromyourslumber.com, has turned out to be so corrupt that we advise you to not waste your time with it. The Zionist agents cannot argue with what we say, so they are either trying to ignore us and pretend we don't exist, or they are insulting us and hoping that you will dislike us. Their abuse of us is helping identify who they are; take advantage of this.

Translation:

There are far too many pertinent questions being raised about our corruption on wakeupfromyourslumber.com, so we advise you not to waste your time with it. As Zionist agents, we cannot argue with what they say, so we are going to try to ignore them and pretend they don't exist, and hope that you dislike them. Their criticism of us is helping to identify who we are; we hope you don't take advantage of this.

Crimes of Zion | Tue, 2007-07-17 14:37

Whatever happened to "investigate the truth-seekers, no exceptions"? And he blames qrswave for the content posted here? He couldn't possibly be clearer about his position; free speech is a no-no, and any site that allows it is "trash".

Crimes of Zion | Tue, 2007-07-17 15:11

Hi everyone,

It is amazing how much nonsense is being written about Daryl and Eric in these postings.

Firstly, it was me that turned Daryl and Eric towards seriously investigating the Zionist/Mossad dimension of the 9/11 attacks, almost 2 years ago. They took my challenge on, researched and investigated the material that I forwarded to them and they independently came to the conclusion that the material was correct.

I have been an anti-Zionist campaigner for over 20 years and have seen the way this truth movement was formed and operates. I have watched all the anti-zionist 'armchair experts' appear over the last 12-18 months as the subject has taken hold on the net.

There is no way that Daryl or Eric are paid 9/11 disinformation personnel, rather they took the subject to the net and Daryl was ejected from his radio show WITHIN DAYS for so doing.

Also, the anti-Jesus element of this site would imply that it is a hotbed of orthodox talmudic input, since atheists rarely take to insulting Jesus, peace be upon him and his mother, whereas it is considered a righteous act for talmudic Hasidim.

As for Chris Bollyn, why aren't you people concerned about the witch hunt of a trial and kangaroo court he was exposed too. It was a travesty. The police destroyed their own CCTV evidence of events, THINK, WHY??? The answer is that it clearly did not support their case, that is why. This conduct alone should have been sufficient for any independent judge to have thrown the case out, but he didn't. Ergo police and judicial corruption in the case in unequivocal and beyond 'reasonable doubt'.

When are you people going to wake up from your armchairs and openly condemn what has happened to one of the early independent 9/11 investigators?

If you are true about your belief in this cause then the opinions that other people may express about you should not bother you and you would in truth be working to maintain a solidarity of the cause. Maybe you would even try to demonstrate your sincerity by elevating yourselves above the personal slurs and attacks and stay focused on the objective facts.

Respectfully,
Muhammad Rafeeq.

Muhammad-Rafeeq | Tue, 2007-07-17 15:58

If it were nonsense, it wouldnt be a problem. Its plain as day, and easy to see.

"There is no way that Daryl or Eric are paid 9/11 disinformation personnel,"

Like theres no way our own govt would take the WTC and 3000 people and etc etc etc? THAT is a fallacious statement.

"Also, the anti-Jesus element of this site would imply that it is a hotbed of orthodox talmudic input,"

Im a Christian- its same as everywhere else. Theyve been teaching everyone what Christianity is and isnt for 100 yrs. This is the way it is. Furthermore, this does not support your overall contention and is extraneous (nonsense).

"As for Chris Bollyn, why aren't you people concerned about the witch hunt of a trial and kangaroo court he was exposed too."

Because we know what it is to drink a few, to raise hell, to screw up - we know what it looks like, and we know how it happens - and THAT is exactly what it looks like, sounds like, and reads like. Regardless, this thread isnt an attack on Bollyn.. it is about Eric's lies concerning the situation. To say this thread is an attack on Bollyn is fallacious as well for the sumple reason that I just stated.

"If you are true about your belief in this cause then the opinions that other people may express about you should not bother you and you would in truth be working to maintain a solidarity of the cause."

The CAUSE is to get the parasites off our backs and out of our lives. TFC works against that CAUSE, IMO.
This statement does not address the crux of what is being discussed on the Bollyn matter either.

Personal Attacks and Slurs? You are complaining about personal attacks and slurs against the premier attackers and slurrers?
This is extraneous on both our parts, but I couldnt resist.

Get your buddies to interview Bollyn's brother, or start having call-ins.. or do SOMETHING LOGICAL rather than behave like Jim Jones or Chuckey Manson.

Mohammed - You speak without a valid argument to make concerning the point. Thats what TFC is doing. Thats what everyone sees. Thats why they have a problem.

Furthermore.. this isnt the first time.. this is a recurring phenomenon with TFC.

geeez | Tue, 2007-07-17 18:29

You have a 'show'.. right?
and.. you do 'interviews'.. right?

geeez | Tue, 2007-07-17 18:47

Muhammad,

Did you know that Daryl has ordered all supporters away from this site? You don't take orders very well.

Why are you are tolerating the misspelling of both your names on TFC website?

Here's how TFC spells your name -Mohammed Rafiq

Can't TFC even get that right?

If you are the real mccoy, then you are practically the last man standing still in contact with this guy.

Do you suffer from the same myopic us v. them mentality? Nobody likes him anymore because he considers almost anyone disagreeing with him as evidence of being a Zionist. He's looney tunes. Blind obedience is foolish.

duped | Tue, 2007-07-17 20:59

Hi Geez,

It is ridiculous to draw comparisons between Daryl and Eric with the real criminals between 9/11.

The reason I state that they are not on the same side as these criminal perpetrators is because it was me who introduced the zionism and zionists and gave them a lot of the original source materials, including the Friedman documents, which I have had for decades. They started validating the information that I sent them and even got their own new sources and came back with lots of questions.

I also introduced them to many of their guests, some of whom are veteran anit-zionist campaigners. Daryl's first talks on this subject got his radio show pulled for him - be sensible Geez, if he were a zionist agent do you think they would have terminated his show? Off course not.

I will swear on the Holy Qur'aan that all the above statements are the truth.

Geez, if you are a Christian then you must love Jesus and his mother, so why did you not express offence at the nasty and highly offensive Jesus bashing that is going on in some of the blogs on this site? The first thing that I have done when posting on this site is to raise my distress about this filth.

As for Bollyn, I did not claim that the people on this site were attacking him, rather I said they were failing to express outrage at the disgraceful way he has been treated in open court. Who would ever want to appear in a dock where the judge ignored the destruction of crucial evidence on the part of any party?

As for slurs and attacks, if you look carefully at Daryl and Eric, they only ever contend that they believe that someone is not genuinely supporting the cause. They do not stoop to making personal attacks about their appearance, beliefs or family (such and such a person is bald, or such and such a person is an atheist etc etc).

The CAUSE is to expose the criminals behind these attacks and their other actions and to demand that they be placed on trial to face the consequences of their actions.

Hi Duped, Daryl has recommended, not ordered, that people should ignore the postings at this site. He is entitled to make this recommendation if he wishes.

I have posted at this site because I am personally concerned that agents of the criminals may be operating at this site and are attempting to mislead people who are genuinely looking for the truth.

Therefore please tell me folks, is the anti-Jesus material something that should be apologised for? Daryl certainly apologised, and genuinely, for a remark he made personally and that became publicised. This site has has actually made a point of openly insulting and denigrating Jesus, yet no-one on the site has called for an apology. How can people call for Daryl to apologise for a private remark made public, yet remain silent about public statements and cartoons that are utterly disgraceful? Is this hypocrisy going to end and will you call for apologies and the removal of this highly offensive material? I hope so.

Finally, as for my name, it is a transliteration from the arabic and it is often misspelled, even by arabs and Muslims from other ethnicities - I'm used to it and don't bother complaining or taking offense - it's not deliberate.

Respectfully,
Muhammad.

Muhammad-Rafeeq | Tue, 2007-07-17 22:34

Daryl Bradford Smith might just be the element God uses to jump start Armeggeddon. The psychotic nut job at i'm-alamewitnessdotcom has gone over the edge and into that great abyss of spider chasers and idolaters known to us as...Zionists, where he is, I'm sure, in good company, and according to Smith himself..among people like the President of Iran too!! Muhammad, try disagreeing with that bozo and start counting.. I'll give you odds on the time it takes for Smith to publicly announce his 'outing' of yet another Zionist ( you ) to be under a day! It's too late for Smith, I think...save yourself, friend.

Jesse | Tue, 2007-07-17 23:15

This stuff is what i was talking about.

First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

Masher1 | Tue, 2007-07-17 23:29

You doublespeak on par with any yuppie yank Ive ever seen. Thanks for the education - for some reason, your name and accent elist a benefit of doubt I didnt realize I harbored.

Pretty slick.

1-I compared the "thought of DBS and Co capable of being the enemy" with "the govt being capable of pulling a 911" - in other words, to believe they are incapable because of some informative shows they may have produced is fallacy, and stupid. That is not critical or logical tinking.

2-"it was me who introduced the zionism and zionists and gave them a lot of the original source materials, including the Friedman documents, which I have had for decades." The Freedman 'documents' are and have been everywhere - forever.

It is the FREEDMAN AUDIO Masher wondered about, and my understanding is that Willis Carto put on that recorded show.

TFC is not "FRREEDMAN AUDIO.. or TRUTH INC. They are a couple of guys using these items to accomplish something. They haven't cornered the market on anything.

"if you are a Christian then you must love Jesus and his mother, so why did you not express offence at the nasty and highly offensive Jesus bashing that is going on in some of the blogs on this site? The first thing that I have done when posting on this site is to raise my distress about this filth."

Im not Catholic so I dont think alot about his mother. I do take offense, but my display of offense isn't a tool for debate. You however, pose. You're a poser I surmize. The other two, definitely posers.

Bollyn and Court? We are supposed to express outrage over them losing a tape of someone being tasered? This happens everyday. What WE WANt to know is WHY YOUR FRIEND ERIC TRIED TO CON PEOPLE ABOUT BOLLYN'S ABSENCE.

Everyone - if you cannot see that this person is evading the core issues and trying to con you, you're blind.

M,
After seeing your reply here, I now wonder about other 'guests' Smith interviews. Your performance here seems meant to obfuscate.

geeez

geeez | Wed, 2007-07-18 00:19

Hi Geeez,

Your accusation of double talk is without foundation. Everything I have said has been in clear presentable english. You wanted to know, according to posts across this site, how Daryl and Eric initially got introduced to zionism and some of the supporting material. I have answered that. Where is the double speak here?

You then focus in on a single document or file and ask where they obtained that? I have had many of these recordings on audio tape for around 20 years. About 10 years ago I began digitising them for burning on CD and back then it was a very expensive process. I must state however, I did not personally supply that particular file, but whoever did is of no relevance.

You falsely claim that this information has been "everywhere forever". In fact even 5 years ago a large amount of anti-zionist material was not available on the net. Campaigners like myself who have been continually active for the last 20 years have seen the changes that the new technology has brought about, in respect of circulation and availability. I can give you an example of this change: 20 years ago the Friedmen pieces, and the Neturei Karta pieces had to shipped to the UK from New York, by the Rabbis, to me directly. From there I had permission to make copies and we had to do runs by the thousand on litho printing equipment. Then came the hard bit, circulating the articles and documents by hand at social and political events up and down the country, trying to engage people in discussion and debate.

I have dedicated 27 years of my life to the fight against racism, including the anti-apartheid campaign and the Anti-Nazi League. When the South African regime collapsed we turned to the final colonial regime of the planet, Israel. I have campaigned continually since that time.

Therefore, how dare you even dream of insulting my sincerity. Who do you think you are that you are so important to pull people down without even knowing anything about them? Your conduct is far worse than that with which you accuse Daryl and Eric - you know practically nothing about me and little more about my efforts and yet you have still accused me of supporting zionism. You have no idea how much me, my family and friends have suffered personally and directly at the hands of zionists over the years. You owe me an unreserved apology for your ignorant slur.

Respectfully,
Muhammad.

Muhammad-Rafeeq | Wed, 2007-07-18 01:06

Hi there Dead Bishop,

Thank you for your comments. There are clearly many things that Daryl and I disagree on; for starters he is an atheist and I am an orthodox Muslim. He has many opinions that are not exactly the same as mine, but we have managed to bury those differences for the sake of the bigger picture, which is far more important than either Daryl or myself or even you.

Daryl certainly doesn't suffer fools gladly and if he sees people pushing the zionists version of events, in whole or in part, he will rightly disassociate himself from them.

My friend, we are looking at mass murderers, who have used that mass murder, exponentially worse than Columbine or Dunblane, to jump start a series of wars that has left more than 1 million dead. We must be able to bury our differences in order to fight our common collective enemy, the zionists.

The most interesting comment you have made is the claim that Ahmedinajan is a zionist agent. What evidence do you have to support this claim? Do you know anything about the true power structure in Iran and the '3 magnets'?

Respectfully,
Muhammad.

Muhammad-Rafeeq | Wed, 2007-07-18 01:40

"You wanted to know, according to posts across this site, how Daryl and Eric initially got introduced to zionism and some of the supporting material."

No.. I never wanted to know that.
All I wanted to know was why Eric tried to con people about the circumstances of Bollyn.

Also, the thing new about Freedman was the audio, not the documents. The nationalists had much of this material available via Sons of Liberty publications.

I question your sincerity because the question, again, is why Eric tried to con people about the circumstances of Bollyn absense.

And when you weighed in, it was with side issues like 'how can you think theyre cons' and 'why arent you expressing outrage' etc. Those things do not address the question.

And those thing look like deliberate detours for the conversation. To me, they do. I know nothing about you - but I did ask a question over and over, and I can read your responses.
Any slur you interpret isn't ignorant. It is informed by your non-response.

Do you know what happened concerning Eric's lies about his disappearance?

I know lots about TFC. Ive listened to most all of their audios. Ive verified some of it, etc.

This isn't the first time Mr. Rafeeq. For me, its the fifth or sixth. But I am trying to stick to just this one.

They (eric) viciously sic people on my friends, ive caught em lying or operating in support of Z objectives 5 or six times, the fire burning here is one instance in particular that everyone here saw for themselves.

I submit that you are the one operating from a position of ignorance concerning THIS issue.

Either that, or intentional obfuscation.

Nothing personal, but those are the choices. Perhaps I should have stated the first choice before, but I assumed you wouldn't show up here unless you knew what the subject matter (question) was about.

geeez | Wed, 2007-07-18 02:12

You are not going to get it done. We are not listening to YOU,Eric,Daryl,Chris or any of the others he is WORKING with on his audio files.

All of you need to collect your severance and vacate this venue PRONTO.

As i have said your Dreck is Exposed. Your leader is Disgraced. And your Attemted replacement is just as bad as Sutter was.

There is no fixing the smell coming from IATW. No amount of fancy cleaners and expensive perfumes used in every crevice will EVER remove the sulphuric smell from that URL.

I would suggest they remove it. And do so soon. Because WE all see the path Sutter and his Department is marching. An ever shorter and pain filled march right into the FIX.

You know FIRE!

First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

Masher1 | Wed, 2007-07-18 03:07

First of all, let me say that I don't make the claim that the president of Iran is a Zionist agent as you have mistakenly deduced. I said that Daryl and/or Eric suspected him of being a Zionist. The reason I am pretty sure ( not 100% ) of this is because I have only listened to two talk show dudes talk about Zios. i.e. Daryl and Michael Collins Piper. Now the reason I believe it was Daryl/Eric that cast the cloud of suspicion on the Iranian President is because I highly doubt MCP is going to bad mouth him, and then show up in Iran for an anti Zio rally/meeting. Please forgive me for not having the ambition or the will to wade through countless hours/days of BS from those two clowns in order to verify/proove my statement. If you're REALLY annoyed by the possibility of them thinking the president of Iran is a Zio, ask them to help you find the appropriate text. I don't usually invent statements of that nature and my memory is vague on this particular point but like I said...I'm 90% sure they cast doubt on him and I'm gonna leave it there. If I'm wrong on THIS point...then I will have to stand corrected. If I accidently stumble across the proof of this....I will PUBLISH it in the newspaper so every one can see. Yours, In Christ and Mary DB

Jesse | Wed, 2007-07-18 03:30

Hi again Geeez,

I cannot say much about Chris Bollyn because I have never met or spoken to the guy, therefore I do not understand why you are returning this subject. If you closely monitor Daryl's site I have only ever been a guest and contributor.

Having read Chris Bollyn's work and it is clear that it has been well researched and as a result is respected. He began publishing through Daryl and Eric's sites after he discovered that the AFP output was being edited by zionists.

I was extremely disturbed by his being attacked by undercover US policeman and then his being subjected to a trial that even the inquisition would have been embarrassed by. Chris documented all of this himself, firsthand.

Why do you say that Daryl and Eric are trying to 'ham up' his disappearance into something sinister. Is it not logical that after sinister conduct on the part of the police, and then on the part of the judiciary, that his suddenly going missing, without informing anyone that he works with in advance, is at the least odd? Do you consider a man and his entire family to go missing an ordinary event? Often when criminals (and is Chris truly a criminal) go on the run, the family get left behind as they are a burden to take everywhere.

I think that Daryl and Eric have every right to be suspicious about the sudden disappearance of Chris and his family and they again have every right to voice their concerns and suspicions.

Now, I think I have addressed every issue you have raised with me. Will you please now be straight in return by dealing with the issues that I have also kept raising and that you repeatedly fail to address in your replies to me:

1) Please openly condemn the conduct of the police and judiciary in the case of Chris Bollyn
2) please openly condemn the disgusting filth which has appeared in postings on this site denigrating the holy personlity of Jesus, peace be upon him and his mother.

Respectfully,
Muhammad.

Muhammad-Rafeeq | Wed, 2007-07-18 04:22

Hi there Masher,

I do not know why you feel that Daryl is in some way my 'leader'. As an orthodox Muslim I can only take an orthodox Muslim cleric as a leader, however it is reasonable to think that you would not have known this teaching of Islaam.

Maybe you have a low opinion of Daryl and Eric for whatever reasons you may have. However, surely you hate injustice and bigotry? If this is this case then would you openly condemn the way in which Chris Bollyn's trial was conducted, including the destruction of police video evidence by the police? Would you also condemn the bigoted and insensitive way in which some postings on this site have presented Jesus, peace be upon him and his mother?

Respectfully,
Muhammad.

Muhammad-Rafeeq | Wed, 2007-07-18 04:32

Hi there Dead Bishop,

I have re-read your original post and now see what you were doing, basically using a claim that Daryl or Eric had previously used to label the president of Iran. Therefore this is not your own ascertion.

I am sorry for this misunderstanding but if you read your post it is not immediately clear.

For some reason other posters to this site seem to have difficulty in openly condemning the trial of Chris Bollyn or the disgusting treatment of Jesus, peace be upon him and his mother, on blogs at this site. Do you think that the trial of Bollyn was a sham and a disgrace? Would you openly condemn the insult to Muslims and Christians posted at this site in respect of their beloved Prophet and Messiah?

Respectfully,
Muhammad.

Muhammad-Rafeeq | Wed, 2007-07-18 04:43

Hey Muhammed,

I don't understand what you mean:

Also, the anti-Jesus element of this site would imply that it is a hotbed of orthodox talmudic input, since atheists rarely take to insulting Jesus, peace be upon him and his mother, whereas it is considered a righteous act for talmudic Hasidim."

Who has been insulting Jesus on this site? I sure would like to know.

Rhiannon | Wed, 2007-07-18 06:36

I am Going with what 17 of Chris's peers had to say. You seem to thing he was railroaded. Why is this? Any thing concrete to say he was a victim of injustice? Or are you all just going to stick with this line you all have out so far on this?

You see I think Bollyn was treated FAR too softly. He used an official 911 call to promote a WWW site and was busted. Until that transcript is posted this is where it is going to lay. Bollyn is guilty as far as the official record is written so if he is unwilling to make any other case that is HIS problem. Your coming here and implying that WE somehow did not support the Great Chris Bollyn and the Neo-Slugs took him out is just a LAUGH Mr Rafiq.

But we are sort of getting used to laughing at DBS and his circus show of freaks.

First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

Masher1 | Wed, 2007-07-18 07:00

Mohammed, you are the one that got him “up to speed" on Zionism, supplying all the material, and he still doesn’t know how to spell your name?

“Hi Duped, Daryl has recommended, not ordered, that people should ignore the postings at this site. He is entitled to make this recommendation if he wishes.”

Give me a break. Listen to the file again. It was definitely more than “recommend.” He “asked” his supporters to not frequent this site. The “asked” carries greater weight after all the nasty things he said about this site before and after this statement. You are clearly playing semantical games.

“They do not stoop to making personal attacks about their appearance, beliefs or family (such and such a person is bald, or such and such a person is an atheist etc etc).”

Are you an agent provocateur? You have to know the falseness of this statement after he compared someone questioning his motives to Moe Howard, on the same file you referenced! A reference to a Jewish comic of all things. Listen Groucho, I smell staged fight all over this thing. Take a hike.

“Daryl certainly doesn't suffer fools gladly and if he sees people pushing the zionists version of events, in whole or in part, he will rightly disassociate himself from them.”

Now you contradict yourself. This statement is the opposite of the previous statement above. I know you will try to make a distinction. It implies that he flies off the handle and calls people names. Which he definitely does as evidenced in the previous statement.

You are definitely obfuscating as Geeez has pointed out. Why are the only people who still talk to him British residents? You part of the same cell? Or is this just a cultural thing where you don’t know how to spot an American Con Artist?

This thread is about what Daryl said about this website. But you want to bring in all the same arguments that have been already addressed. If you really were a supporter, you would have known that this was going on a long time ago, and you would have been here.

I think that you're not the real Rafeeq. But if you are, I can see why you still talk to him and why his operation is going down the shitter. Sophistry runs in common.

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