"Actually, how can we be certain that Condit is telling us the truth?"

Observe the SUGGESTED possibility that Eric is claiming Jim Condit Jr to be a liar.

Just my point.. in this instance he (they) are NOT saying that Jim Codit is a liar, they merely suggest the possibility. Also worth noting is this:
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Bridge-Collapse.html
-- which I believe clearly speaks much to the (now 95%) doubt I place upon the latest 'Bollyn' piece as coming from his own hand-- it appears to have been written, indeed, in response to the afore-cited link! Bollyn would NEVER direct one to 'what really happened' or prisonplanet' in a hundred-million years-- unless it was to expose THEM for the losel zionist shills they are, &c.

Here's the final statement from that last cited excellent article:
" Remember, when 9/11 and other crimes start coming out in the open, demand that we investigate everybody.No exceptions!"
Always time to re-evalute and upgrade, wouldn't you agree?

The Jim Condit Jr. site I meant to post a link to was this: http://www.thetruth247.com/
-- and I hope you'll please take the time to listen to his (Mr. Condit's) two radio-run ads re: Bollyn and Chertoff, as well as watching his video about half-way down. I myself would not be surprised to learn that Chertoff himself was personally behind CB's persecution, prosection and ultimate disappearance.

I am not very good at posting in this format, and (apart for difficulties I'm having at present w/ my wireless connection) do not particularly relish it. But I do hope ye'll take the time to look into this matter, as I consider extremely apposite and even urgent. And so, for now, farewell.

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it looks like a huffy defense.. you do realize that the people youre dredging up this old stuff for saw it when it was new, right?

Rather like DBS and his 'Chertoff' post.

Hey, maybe Ill ask you, someone made a request earlier but its worth restating:

Do you have a list of who ISNT an evil Zionist?

I suppose that what you're suggesting is that the readership of material that's posted on this site is static.. some of it is, clearly.. at least when it comes to their modes of thinking and learning.

So you promote a website that states: "Smith, Hufschmid, and lots of others are now certain that the Bollyn family is kidnapped or dead!!" because Chris Bollyn refuses to talk to them, and suggests that Jim Condit Jr is a liar and Carol Valentine has been "eliminated" because she refuses to talk to them. A website that attacks scores of anti-Zionists as "Zionist agents" or "useful fools". A website whose webmaster peddles every crackpot conspiracy theory under the sun, such as "Paul McCartney killed and replaced". Surely it is you who has "zero credibility"!

Either you're an utter blockhead or determined to disparage and discredit these people at all and any cost.
You posit the assumption that Bollyn is available to talk to them as a proven fact. Ditto Carol Valentine, who (to my knowledge) was never specifically asked or approached to talk to them (they said ANYBODY-- with the one credible exception of Jim Condit Jr.-- a man whom they DO NOT and WOULD NOT ACCUSE of lying, as you would have us interpret it), &c.
As for yourself, you direct us to such material as the 9-11 myths bs to 'explode' Bollyn's work & research, &c., or proffer the idea that Smith and Hufnagel, &c. created the Ben Freedman character and material. You're whacked, and I am through with you.

Thank you very much for posting the Condit / Bollyn radio link, which I can still recall very well.

BTW, have you ever heard "Poseidon", or David Duke, reaming Chertoff a new asshole on the radio ?

Poseidon is a ZIONIST LIAR:
Well, Poseidon, I guess you are being a good Zionist in keeping up with the writings of your fellow Zionist David Duke. I usually never read David Duke but I guess if you are a Zionist it is important to keep up with his work.

You say that David Duke was “exposing Michael Chertoff’s Zionist sympathies” in January of 2005, prior to Christopher Bollyn’s piece. However, I took the time to read that piece and it is basically softball criticisms masquerading as hardball criticisms. David Duke writes that Chertoff wants:
• no lawyers for detainees,
• wants to hold them indefinitely,
• that he manufactured testimony against defendants,
• that he was “involved” in the curtailment of civil liberties,
• that he was involved in the TWA flight 800 coverup,
• that he has Zionist sympathies,
• that he “sent home the Mossad’s over 200 ‘Israeli art students’ ” (no mention that the vans of these Mossad agents tested positive for bomb residue and no mention of the dancing Israelis who later went on Israeli TV and said that they were sent there to document the event),
• that he wants to advance Jewish sympathies (But in the next sentence he writes: “- as is usual the Jewish agenda is supported by bought politicians on both sides of the aisle.” This makes Chertoff’s desire to “advance Jewish sympathies” seem like just a common occurrence among politicians, nothing particularly egregious.)

Basically, everything in David Duke's piece is stuff we have already heard about and stuff that could be rationalized by an average, uninformed Joe six-pack as what would be considered to be within reason for a tough prosecutor in times of a real tough war against terrorism. His Jewish sympathies are merely what can be commonly found in American politics. This is a fluff piece masquerading as a hit piece, which is consistent with David Duke’s Zionist role in our society.

By contrast, Christopher Bollyn’s November 4th, 2006 audio file and his March 4th, 2005 expose of Chertoff, are much more damning, revealing and specific regarding Michael Chertoff. They explain that:
• Chertoff oversaw the criminal division of the DOJ during the non-investigation of 911,
• Chertoff was the US attorney for the District of New Jersey during the 1993 bombing of the WTC and thus he was in control of the evidence and prosecution relating to that bombing hoax (in which the FBI paid $ 1 million to Mohamed Saleh to hire Muslims from mosques in NY to carry out that bombing [and three of those Muslism turned up in Oklahoma City on the day of the OKC bombing] – the investigation of this hoax also went nowhere),
• Bollyn has received repeated warnings not to write about Chertoff (and now he and his family have gone missing),
• that Chertoff’s mother was the first stewardess of El Al airlines, a state run airline, and that she was an intelligence agent involved in Mossad’s very secret “Operation Magic Carpet”,
• that Chertoff’s father and Uncle were Rabbis,
• that his grandfather was a well known teacher of the Talmud in NYC,
• that his sister was head of Hadassah and brought millions of dollars in fundraising money into Israel in the 30’s and that she attended Hebrew University before Israel was a state,
• that Chertoff’s aunt was working with the Zionist movement in NY + London,
• that the Chertoff family was one of the founding families of Israel,
• that Michael Chertoff was most likely is a dual national and that he most likely lived in Israel in his youth and that he refuses to talk about his youth,
• that in the beginning of the 20th century Michael Chertoff’s family had a family member who was an arsonist who used to set tenement homes on fire in NYC by setting kerosene soaked baby carriages on fire,
• that there was another Chertoff family member who was involved in the communist movement and he was prosecuted for burning US flags,
• that Chertoff’s cousin Benjamin Chertoff wrote the garbage piece “debunking” 911 “conspiracy theories” for Popular Mechanics. (Your attempt to refute this by citing an email of Benjamin Chertoff’s is very dubious. Of course he is going to deny it. He’s a Zionist and Zionists lie routinely. You should know, since you are a Zionist. It is completely in his interest to lie. But you are so determined to discredit Bollyn that without question you take his word for it. I am sure we could find countless criminals accused of crimes who would swear up and down that they were innocent. You can’t take Benjamin Chertoff’s word for it. Furthermore, this was the lead guy who wrote the lying, garbage piece on 911 in Popular Mechanics, so he has no credibility for that reason as well.)
• THAT MICHAEL CHERTOFF WROTE THE PATRIOT ACT along with a Vietnamese colleague,
• And many other very important things about Chertoff and other important topics related to the integrity and security of our nation.

There is no comparison in the level of specificity and detail in the works of David Duke and Christopher Bollyn and the degree to which they actually implicate Chertoff. David Duke’s piece is a false opposition fluff piece while Christopher Bollyn’s work is going for the jugular. David Duke’s info will just fall by the wayside while Christopher Bollyn’s work, by contrast, if enough people hear about it, could result in pandemonium and of Chertoff getting prosecuted and of the American people starting to question the whole twisted system of Zionist control that has been set up for us in this country. No wonder you hate Bollyn’s work and hold out David Duke’s work instead. YOU ARE A LYING, DESPICABLE ZIONIST AND THAT IS JUST HOW WE WOULD EXPECT A ZIONIST TO ACT.

uraniumtiger | Wed, 2007-08-08 21:22
Poseidon is a ZIONIST LIAR:
I forgot to mention:

Christopher Bollyn’s November 4th, 2006 audio file and his March 4th, 2005 expose of Chertoff also discuss:

• that the numerous Mossad agents ("Israeli art students" and others employed by "moving companies") who were sent back to Israel by Chertoff had vans that tested positive for bomb materials,
• that Chertoff also sent back the 5 dancing Israeli Mossad agents who later went on Israeli TV and admitted that they were sent to NY to "document the event" (see: http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_ZionSummary.html),
• that the mainstream media has never done a serious biography of Michael Chertoff,
• that Chertoff, as head of Homeland Security, also is in control of our borders, the Coast Guard, the INS, the Secret Service, and more (these facts may not be secret but they are not well known and it is worth pointing them out while pointing out Chertoff’s acute conflict of interest),
• that he is the one responsible for the government's screwed up response to the Katrina disaster.

Did David Duke’s piece mention any of these things or the things listed in my prior post? No. There is no question that Bollyn's piece is much better and much more damning of Chertoff than David Duke's piece. No wonder Poseidon wants to promote David Duke’s piece and to do all he can to discredit Christopher Bollyn. POSEIDON IS A ZIONIST LIAR.

uraniumtiger | Wed, 2007-08-08 21:55

Well, I thank YOU for pointing out the possibility that D. Duke is Poseidon [?]-- which explains his motives for what I consider the unfair attacks on the witnesses. I happen to like David Duke, and wholly understand how he has been unfairly vilified by the mainstream press in an unprecendented manner-- more than anyone, without exception. I even wrote to Mssrs. Hufschmid and Smith recently to express my doubts about some of their criticisms (esp. about SOME revisionists (exploding the Holohoax myths is a VERY worthwhile and necessary business), and asked about Mr. Duke specifically. To speak the truth, all I really believe I know about HIM (and all I'm willing to accept as gospel-truth, therefore) is what I've read that was written BY he himself-- and I find it to be very, very good, and in no wise indicative of some misplaced or incorrect-type of white supremicism (which is clearly one of Smith's beefs against him (Smith once expressing that he heard such from Mr. Duke with his own ears)-- t' other that the press only brings him out when they want to attack whatever he espousing, &c. (which, certainly, is undoubtedly the case). To speak frankly, Eric wrote me back a brief note to the effect that 'who knows what some of these people's reasons are for.. &c.' and then directing me w/ a link to some info regarding 'rumors' about some nefarious activity or other disparaging to Mr. Duke-- and which i did not bother to look at, but wrote a reply to the effect that if we believed in such doubtful or unrelated rumors, then what would that say about Smith, B, or he himself?
I'm glad for this (final?) opportunity to throw my 2c in the hat, for my only objective personally is to get at the truth-- and if and where I'm wrong in my beliefs and/or assertions I sincerely hope that someone is capable of showing me wherein I err-- disputing whether Benjamin Freedman is real or not, or directing us to a 9-11 'myths' site just confirms my (I hope correct) beliefs and opinion.

Sorry, Nobodaddy - It appears that you mistakenly assumed from my comment that "Poseidon" was David Duke.

What I really meant to say was - "Poseidon" or David Duke...
not that I wouldn't put it past him.

Again I've made, and would like to correct, an error or two in my previous comment (sorry, I fail as an effective writer/ poster at present-- also apologize for any appearance I've ever given here of undue incivility, &c.)
ANY kind of supremicist views I consider wrong and dangerous-- tho' as from a scientific standpoint I consider questions related to genealogy interesting and potentially important.
And, of course, my latest comment was directed to Quasimodo-- whose new blog strikes me as particularly brilliant, in its way.

Oops-- need also to point out that I was merely paraphrasing a part of what Mr. Hufschmid wrote me and what I heard mr. Smith say re: Duke, &c. From my perspective they (at least Smith, inasmuch as witness is HIS website) has zero-tolerance for racism, namby-pambyism and duplicity or deception in any of its myriad, untold forms-- which only adds to my regard and high-respect for their credibility. And now I've surely done.

So Poseidon is Scott Makufka, David Duke and a "Zionist liar!" And uraniumtiger, who "usually never reads" David Duke, posits that David Duke is a Zionist - I wonder where he got that idea from. And I wonder where he picked up the habit of calling other anti-Zionists Zionists. Smith, Hufschmid and the TFC brownshirts are as liberal with their "Zionist!" accusations as Zionists are with their "anti-semite!" bullshit. It's fucking ridiculous, but I guess I'm a "Zionist!" for saying so.

I've got "Zionist!" nothing against TFC, I just "Zionist!" wish they'd stop calling "Zionist!" other people "Zionists!"

Daryl, for an 'ex-professor', you don't have much to say. We already saw those posts. Come on man, you can speak for yourself.

is not only unsubstantiated, but overwhelming evidence to the contrary makes the charge ridiculous.

Obssesively comparing eachother to see who is the biggest anti-zionist is truly unhelpful.

Chertoff is a zionist - no doubt about it. All his actions speak clearly to that fact.

What difference does it make if one anti-zionist does a better job of exposing him than another anti-zionist?

Is there some sort of Global Anti-zionist Award that I'm not aware of???

Let's stick to the facts, folks.

We're on the same team.

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Qrswave says the idea that Poseidon is a Zionist is not only unsubstantiated, but overwhelming evidence to the contrary makes the charge ridiculous. The same goes for Chris Bollyn. There isnt any evidence that backs up the crap that Poseidon spouts about Chris. If Poseidon doesnt want other posters calling him a ZIONIST LIAR he should stop accusing Chris Bollyn. More posters here believe that Poseidon is the ZIONIST AGENT and not Chris. Poseidon should STFU with HIS ridiculous bullshit. Something else LYING ZIONIST SHILL ... you said yesterday that you "happen to know that one of them did a Yahoo search for Helje Brand Bollyn on July 19. And I know their locations, then, and more recently." Say what? How would you KNOW what Chris or Helje search for on Yahoo and how would you know where the Bollyns are? Posedon is SPYING on the Bollyns. Im beginning to think that youre a MOSSAD AGENT. Youre sinsister Poseidon.

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/2859#comment-12126

Poseidon said that he was evasive about his location so he can keep the Zionists guessing. BULLSHIT. The ZIONIST SHILL is too friggin scared to reveal his real name and location because that would blow his cover as a ZIONIST AGENT. Poseidon is pretending to be in England and I dont believe a friggin word of it. If he is English how come he writes like an American does? Im beginning to think that there are more people running that TBOW DISINFO site than just him. Poseidon is definately a Zionist Qrswave. Im with Daryl & UT on this. Poseidon IS a ZIONIST OP maybe even a MOSSAD AGENT.

".. are as liberal with their "Zionist!" accusations as Zionists are with their "anti-semite!" Too much name calling I think.

I don't see any accusations about chris in the comment you linked to.

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and these popups who show up to defend him dont even believe their own crap.

Daryl won't answer questions...

He cant be anything but evasive because he is nailed.

Pedros, maybe this will assist you discern the situation a little clearer.

Thanks for that link Michael. Friggin hell ... theyre accusing Eric of being UT which I tnink is a load of BULLSHIT. UT is obviously just a TFC supporter. Im in a dliema here. I dont agree with you and planetquo attacking Daryl and Eric but at least you dont attack Chris Bollyn like Poseidon does. As far as I know Daryl and Eric havent said that you and planetquo are Zionists even although youve attacked them both in your videos but they have said that Poseidon and Suzette the Whippette are ZIONIST AGENTS and I agree with them about this. Poseidon is definetely a ZIONIST LIAR. I dont trust that Whipette either after she stabbed Daryl and Eric in the back. They let her be their webmaster but she was reading Daryls email messages and causing trouble so Daryl and Eric got rid of her. You and planetquo were stupid for working with her after she did the dirty on the TFC. She did the dirty on you as well but you deserved it anyway for attacking Daryl and Eric. You and planetquo shouldve sorted your differences out with Daryl and Eric instead of stabbing them in the back them but I dont think you and him are Zionists for turning against TFC. Poseidon is DEFINETELY a ZIONIST LIAR and so is Whipette. If this Nina thinks that UT is Eric she should accuse him in public. I think she is a Zionist because she is working with Poseidon and Whipette who are DEFINETELY both ZIONIST AGENTS. Nina used to support Daryl & Eric but she stabbed them in the back also like Whipette did by saying that Daryl was a Zionist agent whch is ridiculous. This Nina is TROUBLE WITH A CAPITAL T. It was her that caused all the trouble between you planetquo guys and TFC. Right? BTW where is planetquo and how come he never posts here?

I read that email from Poseidon and saw that he lives in France. WTF? I KNEW the ZIONIST LIAR wasnt in England or in the US. Now that Ive seen the proof it is OBVIOUS that Poseidon is a ZIONIST LIAR. This is why the LYING ZIONIST AGENT wont post up any info about himself. Its because hes in France and not in England like he wants you to think. Now I get it. England doesnt have holocaust laws but France does and this is why Poseidon has got to pretend he is from England. Because if Poseidon was to say what his real name is and post a pic on the net the French authorities would arrest him for breaking the holocaust laws so to get round this he makes out like hes in England when hes really in France. Daryl should say something about this deception on his show. Poseidon shouldnt be allowed to get away with attacking Chris Bollyn and TFC should make ALL their listeners aware that Poseidon is a ZIONIST LIAR and that his site is ZIONIST DISINFO.