Is 9/11 truth a lost cause?
After finding the video of the collapse of WTC7 in late 2005, then Loose Change and then well everything else, I find myself now wondering is 9/11 truth a lost cause?
From my experience I feel I have only reached so many people, and not much more. I have convinced a few close friends that the official story is a fraud, but that's about it, they don't care to look into things in their spare time, perhaps for a week or two and then they are burnt out on it, they have all gone back to their comfortable little lives and hardly mention it, of course if I bring it up, they still agree with me, but far be it for them to take any action themselves.
Some friends still deny it, although they know about the Federal Reserve scam, and the Income Tax scam. To me the most complexing people are those who know about the deceit and yet still continue to watch mainstream news and still continue to support mainstream candidates like Obama, one close friend has also tried to reassure me that a tactical strike on Iran would not cause a wider war in the region. Now I think that it may go without stating that getting any of them to look into a much broader conspiracy has been absolutely fruitless, well at least my wife is on my side.
Recently one of my friends found a radio program in my car called "the French Connection" and put it on, he did not say much about it at the time, but later on my myspace account left a very rude message saying that he couldn't respect me believing in a Zionist conspiracy, and of having what was a called a "veiled anti-semitism". This message hurt me very much at the time, as this was a very close friend, and although we had diverged a bit, I did not think it had reached this point where, if he was concerned about my beliefs would not ask me privately instead of posting it public for all to say in a very confrontational tone.
Yes I was looking into a Zionist conspiracy, at the same time he was thinking of converting to Judaism, and is minoring in Jewish studies. Since then I have looked even deeper into the evidence and well it has brought me here, I cannot be another silent supporter.
I wonder now if it is too late to do much about 9/11. We're coming up on six years since the event, and the best time to make a difference is immediately after an event.
The evidence has long since been destroyed, and the war on terror myth, has been swallowed up by even some who know that the official story is a lie. Perhaps the problem is the 9/11 truth movement itself, although it has many supporters, it is spilt into too many camps to be effective, and spends too much time fighting itself.
It is easy for newbies to be confused entering into the 9/11 truth mess. Simple denial of the official conspiracy theory and call for a true investigation should be enough to bring together these diverse camps, but sadly it is not.
I would say that the first division is between those who say it was Bush Cheney, and those who say that it is part of something much larger, then that group is split up between Alex Jones types who talk about the New World Order and what not and then those that talk about Zionists. For newcomers it is all overwhelming, talk of Zionism will have them thinking anti-semitism.
Lately I have noticed a lot of the "no-planers" muddying the waters, they make the pod people look legit. I know that a lot of the stuff out there is probably the work of dis-info agents, but I also think that a lot of people promote and pass this stuff along willingly, and its making everyone look bad.
Although I have had some luck with my friends, I have had no luck convincing anybody of anything on the internet, people don't listen and are rude, and when you present good evidence you are ignored.
I set up a few ground rules for myself when arguing online, never insult another person even when I was being insulted (taking the "high road"), always used reasoned arguments backed up with documentation that I made available, and go about it one issue at a time, starting with the most obvious stuff first, and saving debate about the collapse for last (seeing that although this is a good piece of evidence it won't convince many now, because they have heard this story before and have found some way to deal with it).
Although I don't think I convinced anyone directly, I think I affected many indirectly as my calm demeanor, and insistince on being cordial to those who would call me dumb, and only bring up the best stuff first, and I think there were others on the sidelines that appreciated my style. But I got burnt out on that, trying to stick it to them is a tough job, especially when all you are up against is blatant ignorance, with an occasional link to a debunking site.
I suppose I am a little discouraged by all of these experiences, I will still try to fight the good fight. But for 9/11 it seems like many have already made up their minds, or they rely on someone else to make it for them. Like how Thom Yorke links to the Monbiot article, how many smart people let others do their thinking for them on this issue.
It seems as though the main aim of debunkers is not to debunk but to get those curious about 9/11 conspiracies away from any real information. This was my problem back in 2005 and 2006 I was looking for an answer to the questions posed by the "conspiracy theorists" all I found was name calling, and distortion of the true views of people in that movement.
Perhaps in the end, perhaps we have shaken enough people from their slumber to go after the next false flag attack as quickly as possible, perhaps it will awaken those that found the truth about 9/11 and have hit the snooze button.
Perhaps it will cause those who do nothing but read Monbiot and others to do their own investigating. But then again, the willingness of people to deny the obvious astonishes me, and by the time of the next attack it may be too late, well until then, au revoir!




I suggest you bear in mind that some of the most irritating disputes revolve around false alternatives : for instance, the original motivating force for PNAC was more zionistic than oil-based (if you recall, they wanted to smash OPEC), but since that time the oil majors have got back in charge and are doing very nicely from the actual high prices. Similarly, whether planes hit the towers or not, the essential thing is that there were explosives used to demolish them. Lots of very powerful exposives.
I don't know whether to say goodbye or hello.
What I do know is, until heads roll, none of us are safe.
explosives were used on the 2 towers and bldg 7. What we don't have is law enforcement, prosecution and judges that are concerned with seeing justice fulfilled.
Several years ago I viewed a video of David Blaine. Blaine is one of the hottest magic performers in the world. He is mostly a street performer and his most famous trick is self levitation. I don't care to debate if Blaine can actually levitate. The important thing for me was the effect he had on people. Blaine conjured a spelled that short circuited people's ability to react critically. The baffled looks on the observer’s faces spoke volumes of Blaine's power. During the magic induced trance people became vulnerable and susceptible to more magic tricks. The suspension of disbelief had firmly taken hold of the observer’s mind and now anything and everything was possible. The expression on people faces revealed how well Blaine had deceived them.
The expression on people’s faces seemed very familiar to me. I had seen that facial expression before. Suddenly, I flashed back to 911 and began to review in my mind’s eye some of the expressions on people’s faces as the towers came down. There was a psychological similarity between both events. A trance had befallen on both groups of peoples.
The eastern European Zionist/ foreign and domestic military intelligence magicians of 911 parlayed their deceit into a complicated cover story and eventually expanded their deceit to justify war. It appears that men and women need miracle, mystery and authority. The propensity of human beings to believe couple with the desire to believe was then easily exploited by opportunistic magicians.
Rational and critical thinking skills are not innate in human beings but rather these skills have to be developed. Skeptics of the official 911 fiction are rare. Those that accept the cover story are simply following the path of least resistance. The 911 skeptics travel alone down a road of intellectual freedom only to discover that the path is beset on all sides by the tyranny of evil men who would try to deceive them.
It is really quite easy to see why most people fail to look at 911 critically. It is difficult to admit that one had fallen prey to a deception. Moreover, the consequences of this revelation are daunting. It is really no surprise that most people become emotionally overwhelmed by 911 and its implications. People shut down in the face of such revelations and turn away from the facts. The courageous few who dare to look in dark corners gain strength and inner freedom but become isolated from the rest of the flock.
Those that continue to believe the official story line become more entangled by the lies and deception until they rationalize that they are too old to change or to old learn anything different. Most of these people will live their lives in blissful ignorance. They will never know why their sons and daughters died in war. They will never understand why their money is worthless. They will just let others do the thinking for them.
...yeah, I'ld say it's a lost cause.
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