The real reason for the Bollyn follies.
Here is the audio of the real idea which required derailment. Its the Precinct Idea, not the advertisements.
http://iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Jim-Condit-7Aug2006.html
A week later, Bollyn was "attacked" wiping this real idea from the radar screen of the truth movement.
Here is another audio describing the idea again in more detail, recorded after the 'attack'. Recorded after it was too late to focus the Smithraelis on it, given all the 'attack' hulabaloo.
http://iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Jim-Condit-24Aug2006.html
The reason TFC followers cannot understand the doubletalk and strange behaviour of TFC and Bollyn is that the 'attack' was contrived, and the parties involved are still cleaning up the mess they made when they performed cleanup (bollyn attack) on that 'real idea' that got loose.
They didnt have a full grasp of what Condit was describing until after they did the podcast..
They screwed up and are still cleaning it up. They look dumb to people because the situation allows them no other choice.
They arent dumb. They are making the best of the situation while continuing to operate towards goals which are antithetical to their stated goals.
Theyre them.
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condit isnt them
the police involved werent them
it wasnt to smear condit
it was to ensure that condits Precinct Strategy did not gain any traction within the truth movement.
Bollyns arrest served that purpose well.
Condit's idea was a real idea. Not collective action requiring coordinated masses, not infospreading banter, but real action that individuals can take which is threatening to the bad guys.
And anyone who buys into Goose's (et al's) kibbitz'd & gnat-bitz scripted swiss-cheese argument deserves the turd o'green miasma that they step in.
you sure dont want anyone to consider that explanation for the strange behaviour of TFC.
seeyalater obfuscator.
geeez
Wheezer, good to see you trying. Smith discussed Condit's precint strategy on several shows - in detail and enthusiastically. EIGHT shows are available for download at:
www.iamthewitness.com/ByPerson.html
Daryl has problems with people Condit associates with. So what. If people think it's ok for Mikey Rivero to be Alex Jones' buddy, there not using their common sense. Daryl urges people to ask questions, why does that alarm you so?
Nice try. Weak and stupid, but an A for effort. Try again. How about a nice photo while you grind your teeth?
The fact that there are 8 or 18 has nothing to do with it.
You guys just dont want this to be considered.
HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RIVERO, THE NUMBER OF INTERVIEWS, ETC NOTHING.
Thanks Fester.
The curious will now have more reason to see for themselves.
adios.
geeez
Wheezer, I was merely pointing out the fact that your assertion that TFC was trying to avoid the Condit material is contradicted by the FACT that all of the interviews are available. They have not removed the precinct strategy interviews as your theory would suggest.
When you assert your hairball theory that the Bollyn situation is a diversionary tactic, you are immediately undermined by the FACTS.
Can you grasp this point? No? I thought not. Carry on. You play the dim but "sincere" patriot role pretty well.
..who else is pushing this 'precinct strategy' that failed to 'get traction' because the whole truth movement (sic) revolves around TFC.. (?)
..i don't believe you cheeez, why don't you push the precinct stategy!!
and maybe removing them would draw attention to them..
who knows.
like the fact that there are 8, or the blathering you did about rivero and jones or whatever, this doesnt negate anything.
the only thing which actually shows anything is your intent to protect people from deciding for themselves.
because at the time (august 2006) there was only about 3 weeks left to do it and be in place for 2008 elections.
Grim - listen , you guys can kiss off. Youre interest is in keeping this off the page or muddying it up.
Im going to continue to murder TFC because I am totally convinced they are them.
But.. Im done with talking to you.
I can only take conspiracy-world in small doses nowadays. Maybe someone with better investigating and writing skills can develop it.
Grim, Fester, and Nobodaddy.. whatever. At least Fester made a debatable point.
regardless - screw it.
geeez
im not going to continue messing with TFC because
a) i dont have time anymore
b) theyre so marginalized now i do not think they can do much damage
but for those interested.. if youre curious as to why the actions of daryl bradford smith and eric hufschmid as well as bollyn do not make sense, heres my theory as to why.
if they do delete the files i will link them.. and if i get bored i mite pipe up sometime, otherwise..
goodbye for now all you crazy sobs
geeez
Well, TFC does and with enthusiasm bash Ron Paul and those who supports his candidacy.... whilst scarcely mentioning such criminals as the AIPAC funded, committed Zionist front-runners... ...Ghouliani, Obama and Clinton.
It's perfectly acceptable that TFC doesn't support Ron Paul's candidacy. It's that it pursues this one cadidate exclusively and with so much zeal.
So maybe TFC does seek to discredit potentially legitimate and Constitutional alternatives. Is it that TFC is tacitly supporting the status quo?
Or does TFC feel that it has the only or most viable solutions?
If this is the case, WHAT ARE THE SOLUTIONS THAT TFC HAS PROPOSED and/or ENDORSED?
(Besides, of course, us "arresting" and detaining members of the Rothschild family and/or stockpiling ammunition, I mean.)
Anyone care to elucidate TFC's proposals? Thanks in advance.
1- make hitlists.. and send them across international boundries to us, thereby subjecting yourself to the most easily prosecutable terms of the patriot act
2-dont oppose the war which supports zionism (because that will distract you from fighting zionism)
3-dont support the only candidate in opposition to zionism
4-call members of the US armed forces idiots and thereby alienate yourselves and your message from a large percentage of others
5-...blah...
ok.. coulnt resist.. gotta go now
bye
Possum, you're making it harder than it needs to be. TFC slam Ron Paul for 2 reasons:
1) they say he has made racist statements about blacks
2) they are suprised that "truthseekers" would be putting time and energy into a candidate when anyone with a clue knows the elections are entirely rigged. Therefore, people intelligent and courageous enough to confront 911 facts should not be running down deadends like the 2008 election. Maybe Ronnie Boy is gonna come out "after he's elected" and tell the nation that the Arabs are innocent and start investigating 911 for real. What are you folks smoking?
this is your theory.. and that's fine. believe what you want. i just disagree. even if they were 'them' would they have bollyn attacked just because they didn't want people getting involved with the precinct idea? it's far fetched and you seem grumpy in debating issues brought up against your theory.
anyway, are you subscribed to condit jr's mailing list? he's supporting ron paul and has brought up great points in his mail-outs.
and get involved in politics at a local level.
i'll be doing a similar thing in australia here.
i guess education is their main solution.
i don't know what you could arrest the rothschilds for.. have they broken laws?
and i'm a pacifist.. don't want a gun, even though i understand that populations have been disarmed on purpose.
anyway, i see you asking genuine questions, as an individual trying to make sense of things.. not as someone just working to discredit TFC like others.
Possum, as for TFC NOT attacking scum like Hillary, Rudy, and Obama, do you really think it's necessary??
These other "candidates" are so obviously owned and/or criminal why should any serious person waste time talking about them?
Upon reflection you see that, right?
PS - I remain curious about Ron Paul, but the voting is rigged and he'd get plugged if he ever started to make real noise about 911.
as politics is indeed hollywood, and there are so many corrupt politicians, can it hurt to support someone who wants to restore the constitution? even if he is disingenuous, doesn't mean his supporters are..
No Stone, voting for him doesn't hurt and it forces the bastards to double check their machines maybe.
HOWEVER, do you really believe that there's ANY chance that he can be elected? If people devote energy into promoting him, it's time they could have used to awaken people to the core problem.
Optimism is esential but not misplace optimism. Our solution doesn't lie in Ron Paul. We SHOULD realize that.
Anyone insisting that Ron's the answer is selling us a dry hump all the way. I been there and done that and I ain't gonna do it no more.
but there's a difference between not spending your time supporting him and spending your time dissing him.
main page of the French Connection now has the main article "The Battle Plan"
Thanks for the heads up St0neskull...
Oops, looks like someone over at TFC must've accidentally reposted what appears to be a piece of their earlier material with a new title: "The Battle Plan". Drats.
Hopefully they will catch their mistake soon and post the proper article, as I'm genuinely interested in seeing some of their workable proposals.
Oops sorry.. Looks like I might have inadvertently missed the "Plan". It's intentionally disguised as yet another of TFC's familiar analytical critiques of Alex Jones. (Very crafty!)
I think I may have isolated the Plan's objectives but am still having difficulty deciphering any proposed strategies....
Here's what I've got so far:
The Battle Plan, Operation Red Asphalt
-We must eliminate our infestation of parasites
-We must get rid of the criminals in the media
-We must remove all of these monarchies and all of their monopolies.
-we must change our laws (though voting is useless, mind you!)
-We need a completely new and better group of leaders in government, the media, banking, schools, the military, and law enforcement agencies.
-We must get rid of all of them
-every one of them must be eliminated
Not sure if this next part belongs with objectives.. or.. operational instructons?..:
- We may have to kill all of them
- It's time to get off your knees! Stop behaving like a Medieval peasant.
-Let's finish the job they started! (followed by the visual depiction of a bloody medieval uprising replete with sabers and simitars... and another of a public beheading .)
-If violence erupts, the FBI and police may have to be our first targets
-we must assume the police are our enemies.
Umm... I think I'm still gonna vote for Ron Paul.
"If Russia feels as though they want to take some of these old aircraft out of mothballs and get them flying again that's their decision," State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said. He was commenting after Russian President Vladimir Putin announced Russia would immediately resume long-range strategic bomber flights on a "permanent" basis, ending its 15-year suspension of such missions.
So.. look at it (possums list).
Its close enough basically.
Now compare that to Condits action plan started on Aug 7.
See the difference? If you cant, then you are not 'thinking', you are 'feeling'.
The bad guys do not care about vague unassembled and "unassemblable" shit like the TFC list.. it is nothing.
They care about concrete physical action and the potential for it. This is why you dont see protests. This is why the Condit idea warranted such an incident to wipe it away.
Those of you in western nations, think about this. Dont you remember when you first became politically aware, and you believed?
If the answer is yes, I now ask, do you remember when you no longer believed?
Do you not remember when you realized that the reason their actions didnt mnake sense, and the reason they seemed stupid and inept was because they were, in fact, working against the things they supposedly stood for? Dont you remember realizing "hell.. they werent stupid.. they were the enemy!"...?
The inability to apply what you have already learned to current situations is the difference between a perceived worthy cause, and a cult of personality.
Not knowing is ignorance. No sin there. Refusing to learn, or not knowing because you dont want to know, is stupidity.
They arent baboons Rowan, they are dealing with a set of facts and allegances of which we are unaware (and would probably not approve - hence.. these are hidden). Thats why they look like baboons.
Thats why TFC looks like baboons.
Just as the USA political machine actually isnt stuffed with the incompetent, but instead is stuffed at key positions with highly capable turncoats......... so goes TFC which is NOT stuffed with psychos (statistically improbable) but instead consists of individuals whose true goals are in opposition to their rhetoric.
Same thing.
Hello..knock knock.. Hello.. this is your Frontal Lobe calling...Hello.. is this thing on?..knock knock..
Dont feel bad. Happened to me too. Many times. But Im getting quicker.
So are you.
Think...fire that mother up, Have a V8.. splash some water..take that reagan or clinton or bush or nixon or girlfriend or wife or husband or 'best friend' or car dealer or flea market TEMPLATE, dust it off and start applying it. See what you find. Wake UP!
The world isnt crazy or stupid - WE ARE.
But we dont have to be.
hard not to conclude yanks are baboons
"If Russia feels as though they want to take some of these old aircraft out of mothballs and get them flying again that's their decision," State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said. He was commenting after Russian President Vladimir Putin announced Russia would immediately resume long-range strategic bomber flights on a "permanent" basis, ending its 15-year suspension of such missions.
RowanBerkeley | Sat, 2007-08-18 17:31
Who's going to 'foot' the bill for these operations? I suspect the U.S. taxpayer, through our generous foriegn aid programs. The U.S. " federal deficit ".......DEFICIT !! not reserve!Peace
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Repent and Do Penance
Why the noise and bullshit? Possum, are you really trying to read Smith’s Battle Plan or are you just wasting time? It's really pretty straightforward. Focus a bit harder and try again, ok?
For the genuinely weak readers, here's a quick summary. What's not to like?
1) Government control of banking. He writes, "Only the government should be allowed to control and regulate money, and the government officials who control the money should not be allowed to operate in secret or put their family members in important government positions." That's simple, widely supported, and should be doable.
2) We should probably adopt a usury-free banking model: "We should also consider whether we want to continue the practice of usury. There are other ways of operating a banking system, as we see in Muslim nations." What's so funny or difficult about that Possum? Wheezer?
3) We must end Zionist control of the media: "A small number of Jews are dominating the media around the world...
We must get rid of the criminals in the media, and we must change our laws so that a few gang members cannot get virtually total control of the television, magazines, newspapers." A solid and reasonable idea.
4) We need to break up Zionist organizations around the world. See links to the list of such orgs. This one is a tougher nut, but if we can hold off on the crop circles, Germanic Death Cults, etc maybe we can get somewhere, no? Again, focus and genuine effort are gonna be essential Possum.
5) We need to put an end to political and economic monarchies. The rich have been getting tremendously richer for the last 50 years: no good. Plato said it a while back. I believe the founding fathers understood it. For a more current call for action, see Kevin Phillips book Wealth and Democracyfor a Reagan strategist's alarming report on the problem.
6) We need to investigate "truthseekers" and weed out the liars and frauds. Ma..ma..ma..po..po..po..gasp! Wheeze! The Kumbaya Chorus here ain't gonna like that one.
7) We need to clean up the FBI, CIA, and police departments. Doable.
Of course, the first step is to make more people aware of the problem of Zionist domination. That's what Smith, Hufschmid, Bollyn and the TFC have been trying to do and accounts for the relentless lying, smearing, and spamming that occurs when their work is mentioned here. The first link doesn't seem to work, so here it is www.iamthewitness.com/Battle-Plan.html
as in, you and whose army?
..we the people, the slaves who are the army; will refuse to fight wars for profit, and instead return home en masse to settle the score once and for all..
Ok Fester, I hear you... it's possible that I have merely "outgrown" the material TFC presents now. However, who is their target audience?
Earlier you said:
Unfortunately, it's not obvious enough to most of the American public, whom, if we've any hope of accomplishing any of TFC's "Battle Plan objectives", we desperately need onboard with us. Take a look at the latest opinion polls, Fester... it is not obvious to most.
What purpose does viciously attacking Ron Paul to the exlusion of all other candidates (including such other truth movement favorites as Gravell and Kucinich) serve in furthering the audience's understanding of anything, Fester?
Who is TFC's target audience? If it's really those of us who "already know Clinton, Obama, and Ghouliani are criminals" then shouldn't we be moving beyond this introductory phase of hashing and rehashing the broad objectives and begin encouraging proactive steps?
Stating and restating and restating again the objectives in such broad, vague language as in "The Battle Plan" suggests, contrary to your explanation, TFC's target audience must still be the yet unindoctrinated.
I have no idea who the hell they're talking to anymore. Suffice it to say, it's not me. Furthermore, the site is unsuitable for those new to Zionism due to its focus on other truth activists, many relatively obscure, rather than the key subject matters. It's reminiscent of another site, http://www.masada2000.org/list-HIJ.html.
Reminiscent in more ways than one, I might add.
cheers Fester
Sadly, to the contrary Grim, "we the people" are fixin to vote for Rudy or Hillary.... ... or for the real "risk-taking renegades" amongst "us", Barak.
Spammin' Berkeley at it again. Love ya ROWBOAT ya busy little peddler of white noise and bullshit. Try STFU.
Its an overview. It is not a plan.
The precinct idea. It is a method of operation. It is a plan.
Electing the only candidate opposed to the fed and foreign aid is a method of operation, a plan.
Doing a podcast (a closed podcast) and blathering overview is bullshit. A cop out. A con. It is non-action. Thats what the bad guys want, non-action and division.
Look at your list Fester. What concrete steps turn any one of those points from wish into possibility?
Now ask yourself. Is TFC supporting their stated goals or are they actually working against them?
Wheezer, if you go to my blog here, you'll see I posted Condit's precinct strategy several months ago. Guess what? I recogniezed the value of it as a plan.
The peculiar thing is you had nothing to say until you needed a cover story to blather some horseshit about Smith and TFC. Presto! You pull a plainly retarded theory out of your crowded backpassage asserting that the Bollyn arrest was staged to somehow distract people from Condit's work. You're a hopeless case.
The problem in Zionism domination of the key institutions: banking, media, policing, government. Is Jones telling people this? Is Mikey Rivero as singularly focused as TFC? No, he's sucking up to Alex "Coast to Coast AM" Jones every week hoping to hit the bigtime. You've got assholes like Maynard spreading the "it's all the Jews" gasoline which only makes it easier to smear the truthtellers, but I realize there's no possibility that you would be willing to grasp these simple points if you were able to.
For the rest, information is key. Henry Ford's, Nesta Webster's, and other's info has seen the light of day previously but always gets swept under the rug. You ain't gonna do jack shit with voting or "solving" things until a critical mass of people wake up to the Zionist problem. Once you hit that, then folks will come up with plans. TFC has the info and links to all the good old stuff SO IT"S REAL F*CKIN' IMPORTANT THAT MORE PEOPLE GO AND FIND OUT.
So here we sit watching Team Chum flinging buckets of crap everytime TFC is mentioned. Hundreds of pages of wild-assed assertions and LIES. Why so few object, I have no idea.
Fester wrote:
Ah ah there, Fester... hold your horses on that one. It seems that Hufschmid, as of the Aug 14 show, hadn't quite made up his mind on that yet. He's still wobbling. Smith initially expressed strong agreement with you, Fester... but remarkably, over the next minute and a half, Hufschmid somehow managed to convince Smith that his assertion might not be entirely valid. Here's an excerpt from said transcript:
Smith:
The comment above is consistent with several of Smith's prior comments regarding a "Jewish friend, TFC supporter, and collaborator" who has been helping him with research and such.
Hufschmid:
Smith:
So did Hufschmid convince Smith to tell his Jewish friend and TFC collaborator to scram? Did the friend agree that he/she had no business anywhere near the 9/11 movement and voluntarily beat it?
This puts those Jews who were not complicit in the 9/11 attacks (nor in any other ghastly Zionist crimes) in quite a conundrum, doesn't it?
Anyone who isn't actively involved in questioning 9/11, who remains silent, and/or who doesn't openly disavow the official 911 novela's version of events automatically becomes a target of TFC's redhot branding iron. Afterwards, they find themselves consigned to the TFC-administered Obfuscation Ranch with all of the other cattle bearing the Zionist Shill and Liar™ brand. Meanwhile, even truth-aware Jews are not welcome into the 9/11 Skeptic's Movement under to the Hufschmid Law.
NO- TFC is in opposition to real actions which support their fake rhetoric.
They scuttled the Condit idea.
They oppose the candidtate who opposes the FED.
and if you want the rest, you can go here...
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/3057#comment-13205
Daryl Bradford Smith and Eric Hufschmid OPPOSE the actions which would support their anti-zio rhetoric.
They are fake. They are the enemy.
JUST LIKE OUR POLITICIANS
THE SAME
THE FACE OF THE EMENY
TELLING US WHAT WE WANT TO HEAR
BUT WORKING AGAINST US EVERY STEP OF THE WAY
Thats TFC.
i dont have time to lay it all out again or think of what I forgot (like the bollyn "abduction" etc...)
Wheezer, thanks for the gibberish. I'll add it to your file.
Possum, again it appearts that you lack sufficient discernment. Your quotes are helpful as they clearly show that Smith and Huf think Jews should not help in the 911 investigation. Smith has said that for a long time. Is that distinction difficult to grasp? Why do you mischaracterize what they have said?
That is VERY different from saying that all Jews are part of the problem as many of the "truthtellers" are vigorously doing.
It does NOT help any of us to indulge in stereotyping, and the bad guys will exploit it if we do not shun the screamers like Kaminsky, Maynard, David Duke (who produces a Pavlovian response in the sleeping public and is therefore problematic no matter what he says today). Read The Longest Hatred yesterday and while full of good info is also loaded with hate which is not what we need.
You see, what Smith says doesnt match what Smith does. Thats the whole point.
"..sniff..sniff.. no HATERS man.. sob. ..sniff"
Oh Shut the Phuck Up.
Wheezer, if you can't read or think logically, and if you don't possess some basic integrity, you're really gonna struggle here.
Here it is again nice and simple: calling for Jews to step aside in the 911 investigation is very different from saying all Jews are guilty. Smith takes great pains to make clear that he is NOT saying all Jews are evil. This makes him a target off "truthtellers" such as Maynard who spread the lie that all Jews are guilty.
Ask a grownup for help sounding out the big words. Your spelling is atrocious.
Actually Fester, I don't believe I've ever heard Smith say that. On numerous occasions I've heard him express the contrary... In fact, come to think of it...he didn't even say it this time. That was someone else. *ahem*
DBS has stated that, and maintained that, many, many times-- and for quite a long while. That's a tough question to resolve and position to maintain, but, overall, I'm forced to the conclusion it's a relatively sound one.
if you get smith started on jewish identity, he will rapidly demonstrate that he has no idea whether for instance all ashkenazis are khazars, whether all talmudists are evil, whether zionism is religious or anti-religious, or indeed any of the questions that people really interested in the subject spend hundreds of hours reading up on.
can he actually read, as in 'books'?
Possum, you're not a very reliable sort, are you dear? Smith said it well over a year back a saying "even my good friend Michel Chossudovsky." I don't have the file date handby, but any honest person who has listened for a long time can attest to this FACT. However, it's really looking doubtful that you're as dumb as you're acting. Just playing possum aren't you.
Rowboat. Good to see your usual naked offering. Guess you're just here to get your ass paddled.
Actually, Fester, I'm now inclined to believe that... since Smith and Hufschmid have deemed pretty much EVERYONE (besides themselves, of course) ineligible to participate in the "9/11 investigation - movement" regardless of one's particular religious, ethnic, or ideological affiliations. Makes sense that Jews would be included in the "everyone" category. Right on, Fester, I get it.