How to smear the 9/11 Truth movement using Agents Smith and Hufschmid
The Goals: Discredit,Divide and Conquer
What all other front-line reporters of the 9/11 Truth movement, like Kurt Nimmo, Michael Rivero, Justin Raymondo , Alex Jones and so many more have experienced, has finally happened to Christopher Bollyn as well:
being stabbed in the back by a couple of guys who had pretended to be allies.
These people are putting a lot on the line for their work, receiving frequent death threads and in the run up for a not unlikely American police state, they know what they risk in the future for being so visible now.
The game Smith and Hufschmid are playing on Bollyn and his family is even more vicious and perfidious than usual.
They actually might endanger his life in the present time.
When this pair of conspirators started to call everyone and anyone of the 9/11 researchers a Zionist disinformant, one could give them the benefit of the doubt, and assuming they were nothing but a couple of paranoids with a one-track world view.
But with time, when they moved also to other subjects like revisionism, the pattern became clearer and clearer:
Discredit, divide and conquer.
Smith and Hufschmid are only the most well financed part of an army of false flaggers using the internet as their tool.
At first they introduce the mantra, that 9/11 and the "war on terrorism" is a Jewish and Jewish only conspiracy.
If anyone else came close to it, they claim they are just puppets.
The other side of the smear company, the mainline media can now quote them and everybody else, who repeats their crap: "Look 9/11 truthers are nothing but a bunch of anti-Semites.
Now Agents Smith and Hufschmid have reached their first goal: Discredit
Now comes the second goal:
In order to avoid being smeared as anti-Semites, which is still very hurtful for many compassionate and well-meaning people, many 9/11 truthers will now bend over backwards to mention the Neocon and Israeli connection as little as they possibly can.
However it is without reasonable doubt established, that some of the Neocons have been involved in the planning and covering up of 9/11. And it is highly likely that one or several Mossad cells, like the guys from the Urban moving Mossad front, were involved, too.
This on top of AIPACS influence on Congress and evidence of Israeli spying and the attempted sinking of the USS Liberty, does make a lot of Americans angry.
Those Americans are vulnerable to the claim, that everybody, who does not blame the Jews, the Jews and only Jews day and night, might be a Zionist stooge. And they might actually believe it.
If this happens, and it has not happened yet, Agents Smith and Hufschmid have reached their second goal: Divide
Now comes the third strike:
The global power elite,
which indeed has partly a Jewish background, but is also partly Anglo-American, Continental European and even has a few elements from other parts of the globe,
this power elite, invested mainly in the financial markets, in the media, in the military industrial complex and in the chemical/pharmaceutical industry,
this power elite which profits from these murderous war-games can hide behind "the Jews did it" mantra.
Everybody who points fingers at the power-elite is called a crazy anti-semitic conspiracy theorist.
No matter how hard the evidence is, for the criminal games these elitists play, they can tell the world, everyone who opposes them is nothing but a veiled racist.
And in this way they can rally both Jewish and Gentile people of good will to attack the truth movement on the pretense of fighting racism (Antisemitism).
And under this cover the power elite can do whatever they want to destroy the remnants of democracy we still have.
Third goal reached: Conquer
My efforts are starting to open up some to the evil under the surface of this CRUE of AGENTS.
I have said Smith that you only expose your deeds further by doing this Mp3 ranting thing.
I have said you are CIA. Others have there suspicions BUT i can with no trouble whatsoever Say with total confidence that Smith was at one point a CIA employee. His training is EASY to see. Many are coming around.
Many already have seen Sutter's
shady ways and teachings for there own selves.
Now Mr Smith. Now we see if you can survive your deeds.
you have one hope...
http://jahtruth.net/twh.pdf
First you take D.C. Then you take New York (:
..yah, i like THE WAY HOME Masher, but please don't pretend you have a crystal ball..
..as if the whole movement revolves around these two, let me tell you something i realized first hand: ZIONISTS HAVE INFILTRATED THE '911' TRUTH MOVEMENT..
..otherwise, they would at least give mention to the israeli connection at their many events, and not just call my 'opinion' stupid, then ban my posts..
..i don't know, nor really care what eric or daryl's motives are, you guys may be right, but don't pretend that you know that, or what may actually become of it, regardless.
And i have heard. You can Think Whatever you like. Our time is for education and learning. Once you start looking to the liars for knowledge and education your being LED away from the WAY HOME.
Now Smith seems to think that he is not one of the Criminals on this prison rock and that his works are not going to COST him anything. I can and seem to be thee only person interested in seeing that he is returned To his real home.
I am willing to help you Smith but i can only show you the door YOU have to pass through it. I am very interested in having Smith become one of our HELPERS. He can do untold DAMAGE to THEM and i think HE KNOWS this.
Choice is EVERYTHING. I hope Smith CHOOSES to turn on his masters much like his oft noted Ben Freedman did. You can continue on the EVIL path or you can Travel the path of light to your home Daryl YOU have to choose.
And Grim learning is a job.
The REAL job of residents of planet earth. Don't do the job and PAIN will dog your entire march across the planet.
First you take D.C. Then you take New York (:
LEARNING is a job!
Maybe Daryl Bradford Smith aren't agents, but just want to be number one in the anti-Zionist movement. Hence their relentless attacks, as one by one, they "identify" genuine anti-Zionists as Zionist Agents, shills or victims.
Furthermore, anyone who dares to question the veracity or consistency of DBS or Hufschmid, is immediately branded a Zionist operative.
Eric Hufschmid
I realize the topic of these three has been going on and on for what seems like an eternity. Personally, I want to get to the bottom of it because I want to know who I can read/listen to and to whom I can give my support.
My position in the truth movement has been to occasionally donate money and be sort of a watchdog as best I can. My time and personal situation limit me otherwise. Thus far I have not supported any of these three.
I do not believe any of the three are "agents" and think maybe we are all getting a little paranoid? Or am I just extremely naive?
I thought nobodaddy's questions were valid and good about the what, when, how and why. But I do understand if this forum no longer wants to be the home for this dispute. I came here in the middle of it all and all I wanted to know is who I can trust.
Part of the reason I turned to DBS is because .. on my very own, long before listening to DBS, I came to the conclusion that MR of WRH was not displaying disagreement with nor enlightenment to certain issues. And he seemed more concerned, at the time, with gun control, immigration, and promoting Ron Paul and bringing guests on his radio shows who always have something to sell.
At any rate, I know CB did do good works as a journalist at AFP although can we really trust AFP and its agents? I know DBS came into the picture long after EH and CB, who were linked together prior to DBS.
Again, I understand if everyone wants to drop this subject. But that does leave me hanging here, still, wondering who to trust and give my support to. Not that these are the only causes out there to consider, but as I said MR is out for me as well. Same with AJ. And I came to that conclusion BEFORE I went to DBS.
Eric and Daryl are very talented but they should stop mentioning other hosts and bloggers they don't like and stick with banking. war and historical segments. They need new guests for the show
This threads original post is flat out SILLY. It seems to me that TFC comes out on top morally, simply because of the obvious pile-on that is and has been staged against them.
They get my vote.
I'm glad they have been ruthless in exposing who they think the creeps are (Zionists NOT all Jews, though in reality the line is insanely fuzzy).
What? are they cyber-Svengalis? Can't we corroborate or reject their averments based on our own research? Seems to me they've done good work.
You said: "being stabbed in the back by a couple of guys who had pretended to be allies" You got it all backwards. Bollyn stabbed DBS and EH in the back, and here is how:
First, Bollyn didn't give DBS or EH a hint that he was safe, so they became increasingly worried over the familys situation. Eric & Daryl thought that Bollyn might even be dead, and what did Bollyn do? Did he call them to tell that he in fact was OK? NO, that never happened. Instead, he kept them speculating over his fate.
Eric was worried that money sent to Bollyn's legal defence fund would actually never reach Bollyn, which was a sound presumption in the light of what Eric actually knew. Bollyn claims that EH & DBS stopped all contributions to his legal defence fund by this. He never stops to think that Eric & Daryl actually did what they did out of concern for Bollyn, and that Bollyn could have stopped them immediately simply by calling either one of them up on the phone and explained that he was safe and that he needed the contributions to continue. Bollyn is 100% responsible for the escalation of the speculations. He had the power to stop it immediately whenever he wanted to. Why didn't he do that unless he needed to collect stuff to discredit DBS & EH? WHY?
Then Bollyn came out from his exile, and what did he do? He posted pictures of Smith and his wife on his website, despite the fact that Bollyn had promised to not make these pictures public. This is totally disingenous behaviour from Bollyn. He has been back stabbing both Eric & Daryl and now he wants us to believe anything he says. Come on, use your brain and start THINKING about what really happened here, will ya?
You better believe it.
Mother Bates gets on board with the bullshit ear protectors 3 years after their appearance. That's red hot Suze. Way to go girl. Yap on.
Yo Erl, what's so wonderful about Germanic Death Cult Jones? That shill is still yucking it up with George Noory on Clear Channel's Coast to Coast show. WTF?
You spot on when you say that it plays into the Zionists hands to promote hatred of Jews. Yet, DBS has consistently said the same thing and attacked others for doing so, and you call him a bad guy. Maynard does it and goes after Smith and draws a huge pile on against Smith here. This is a pretty simple issue.
Are you confused? Tring to confuse? Full o' crap? What is it?
Repeat. Alex Jones is transparently bogus.
..Alex is married to a zionist jew is he not?
..and she's got 'im by des balles.
In his September 5, 2007 audio [21:38], Smith says (re Chris Bollyn) he "never warmed up to this man ever", because he believed that "his lifestyle was abusing the children that he had." Yet in his July 18, 2007 broadcast [17:48] "I wanted to do a middle of the night file just to tell you how concerned I am. In fact, I can't sleep because of it, it's nightmarish, the idea that Chris is not safe, I can't sleep, not knowing that, that he and his family are in such danger." More likely, he is lying in the July 18 audio, because Hufschmid told him to. Smith turns on the crocodile tears and brings out the violins, pretending to be so concerned about a man that he "never warmed up to ever", that he "couldn't sleep". Further evidence that he was lying in his July 18 show is apparent by his mistake where he ought to have said "knowing" rather than "not knowing" - which ironically was one of the few truthful parts of that broadcast.
Some folk have a funny way of attempting to learn the truth - by listening to a proven liar.
Posedion, once again, your "proven" claims are complete horseshit.
Common sense says Smith overlooked his problems with Bollyn's personal behavior as Bollyn was producing such valuable work exposing the people behind 9/11. The material Bollyn covered on TFC was much more important to Smith, and intelligent adults here at WUFYS, than Bollyn's boorish behavior on one occasion.
Similarly Smith's concern when Bollyn dropped out of sight is no mystery. We don't need your help sorting that on either.
How's things on the bottom of the sea?
" Peter Saultstein says: "Some folk have a funny way of attempting to learn the truth - by listening to a proven liar."
And I agree: anybody who listens to Peter will never learn a single thing. Chutzpah once again, from a continually proven and inveterate liar.
Smith either lied about being "unable to sleep whilst sick with worry about the nightmarish possibility of Chris Bollyn being captured or murdered", or he lied about how he "never warmed to him" ever.
Now, Smith says that Bollyn is an agent. (I say that Smith, Hufschmid and Bollyn are all agents.) So what are the TFC supporters going to claim now? That Bollyn is an agent? Or did Smith lie again about that?
And how can Smith accuse Bollyn of practicing child abuse by "living like a Gypsy", when Smith's own con artist career necessitated that he kept moving on, having lived in at least ten US states, several change of addresses per state, before finally having to move on to France. Smith has a couple of grown-up sons, so why didn't he provide them with a more stable environment?
Either way, it's good to be in the position of being able to sit back and say, "I told you so".
Poseidon is most definitely not Peter Sault. I have viewed him via webcam in my last conversation with him. He is very cute, and much, much better looking than Peter Sault!
Of course, Jim Kerr aka PlanetQuo and Michael aka Fugazi, never let the facts get in the way. Much like Daryl Bradford Smith and Eric Hufschmid whom they emulate. Anyone who dares to point out their many lies and inconsistencies is dubbed a Zionist agent.
Capt'n Spam, you're trying to peddle such utter crap, I'm going give you some clues.
Why did Daryl move "10 times"? Hint: Darryl is a professionally trained chef.
Is it POSSIBLE Daryl "never warmed to" Bollyn yet was worried sick about what had happened to him? Hint: sometimes people have professional relationships despite differences in personality/mores.
Second hint: the bad guys do off truthtellers (don't sweat that one, you're safe).
That said, I do recall you got your ass handed to you last time you played clue.
..yah Fester, the mindless babble is so easy to spot and point out, even from a distance..
..who cares about the personalities anyways, just spread the info, done deal.
..look what you started erlenda =P
Knutars, that is complete bullshit. Bollyn contacted Hufschmid repeatedly, both by phone and email, to insist that he was ok. That's a fact.
Bollyn has done exactly that (asked Hufschmid to remove instructions not to donate to the Bollyns). I've seen one of the emails with my own eyes. Hufschmid, as webmaster of the French Connection, still carries this notice on their website:
That's what the Bollyns wanted removed, but no joy. It's no wonder they're pissed at Hufschmid; they've repeatedly contacted him but they insist on peddling this nonsense:
Smith has been a complete prick by going public with all this wank about the Bollyns being 'child-abusers', and the 'Heil Hitler' story that he told Madthumbs has only just now become convenient to regurgitate in the light of new developments, ie- Bollyn exposing Smith for the fraud he is. When Poseidon brought this up
Fester said
But that claim is entirely accurate. What is wrong with you Fester, that you should stick with Smith regardless of incontrivertible evidence that he's a liar? Do you support Smith, or the truth?
Look at Smith's blog here at WUFYS; all he has to offer is Bollyn's work, all of which was posted while TFC was actively engaging in sabotaging donations to bollynbooks, I might add. Bollyn is the one worthy of our support, not TFC.
COZ, TFC were the only people working to mount a support campaign for Bollyn when Bollyn decided to forgo a plea deal and go to trial. When he suddenly drops TFC with little or no explanation after appearing steadily over 2 years, Smith and Huf are entitled to ask WTF? Is he really safe? Anyone paying attention to the nightmare we're in would ask the same. We know about Capt'n Spam; what's your excuse?
Poseidon hasn't proved shit. Or are you one of those who swallow MASHER'S "jury of his peers" and "highly decorated" cops load?
You've written a lot of interesting stuff, but if you can't process the notion that Smith's profesional and personal views on Bollyn diverged, then I gotta think you ain't really trying.
I see you're linked to at News from the West which is full of incendiary racist stuff and NOT helpful as it is exactly what the Zionazis will use if public pressure develops. But then, you're smart enough to figure that out, too.
You said "And I agree: anybody who listens to Peter will never learn a single thing. Chutzpah once again, from a continually proven and inveterate liar."
Nobodaddy | Sun, 2007-09-09 07:47
Why do I get the feeling you like to say things for which you'll have to apologize for later, when your ability to reason returns to you? Your ( poor) choice of words like "never" and "continually proven...liar" can only lead to rash or premature judgements...which are almost always wrong. I get tired of putting my foot in my mouth and hate having to use the " foot removal " tool.I think , at best DBS is suspicious, but I can not fault Christopher Bollyn. I think CB is too trusting of others but he has a good heart.If you should find your foot in your mouth, and need a removal device I shall gladly loan you mine.
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I ALREADY KNOW HOW YOU WILL REACT!
You said to CoZ "Poseidon hasn't proved shit. Or are you one of those who swallow MASHER'S "jury of his peers" and "highly decorated" cops load?
You've written a lot of interesting stuff, but if you can't process the notion that Smith's profesional and personal views on Bollyn diverged, then I gotta think you ain't really trying.
I see you're linked to at News from the West which is full of incendiary racist stuff and NOT helpful as it is exactly what the Zionazis will use if public pressure develops. But then, you're smart enough to figure that out, too."
Fester | Sun, 2007-09-09 11:35
With you, Fester,I can always just get ready for.....
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To Jesus Through Mary
"Smith either lied about being "unable to sleep whilst sick with worry about the nightmarish possibility of Chris Bollyn being captured or murdered", or he lied about how he "never warmed to him" ever.".....Poseidon
TOUCHE!!
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I understand that you're trying to say that Smith was worried about Bollyn on a professional level, as opposed to a personal one. But hitherto, you've insisted they were friends, just as Smith has. Your story changes with his. And who is kept up at night worrying about people they haven't "warmed to"? Surely you know he's being disingenuous.
I don't agree with everything Poseidon says. Poseidon believes that Bollyn is an agent, I don't. I believe that Christopher Bollyn is one of the best we have. You're playing dirty by trying to associate me with shit I don't believe, especially the kind of shit that Masher comes out with.
You should be smart enough to know that I have no control over who links to me. No one does. I don't know the NewsFromTheWest crew, and I haven't spent much time on that site. This is just a surreptitious way of implying that I'm 'disinfo' because I disagree with you. For the record, I'm staunchly opposed to racism, which is one of the reasons I'm anti-zionist.
Listen up DAWG.
To hear you making comments re: TFC is making me sick.
You are a Jew/Drug dealer/Crim informant dawg posing as a truth teller.
You post lovely "reasonable" arguments here. But I know you. I know your foul mouth. Your sick and depraved sense of humour and your LONG history of past and present drug taking.
If I see one more post of yours ANYWHERE on the net i will do this...
Photo and video your house.
Google map it.
Photo and video you as I confront you.
Photo and video your fed mates house and video me meeting him at his front door.
Put it all to music with some cool tight editing.
If you still dont get it I will ramp it up.
You are a dawg informant continually high on Meth.
Tell me you get "it"?
It's over red rover.
Jesse, thanks-- though for the record too I should point out that my remark was in very strictness wholly non-commital re: the (confounding) B, S and H situation, and was specifically addressed and applied to Poseidon (who still seems completely full of it, &c., to me).
As for myself, all I have to say is that I clearly am not suited for this 'blogging' business, in any event-- discovering my own reason, writing & communication skills lacking to the point of sheer embarrassment. And so farewell.
Are you a bit nervy James?
Anyone outside your window?
Have you spoken to your next door neighbor yet?
I wonder if he will enjoy me putting his Fed Face all over the web and YouTube?
And guess what Dawg...he can thank you for it.
I would not have said so if it was not in fact A FACT.
Now this Daryl persona i found was not covering the truth in a forthright and good way.
Once i was Spending a substantial amount of time reading up on ol Sutter here i found out that my thoughs on his constant turning on ANY person that even looked cross ways at his work (Read:No comment engine at the witness site and a Limited one at Myspace Witness)
Now at around march of 05 i was having serious trouble with the motives of DBS and his buddy.
Once i was 10 minutes into his first show that he was encouraging "The younger set" to join Myspace that i saw for sure that the guy was all about "Keep Em Busy with crap" and "Feed them the barbarism line on the sly" games of the good ol CIA junior grades books.
Anyone doing any time in Myspace will undoubtedly notice the STRICT access policy's of that Venue. Anyhow The time i spent in that venue looking at the goings on there i soon saw that Sutter + Suzzette mess brewing much as i saw his booting from the REAL airwaves for what it was after coming to my senses.
Now i was MOST careful NOT to do the things he accused me of doing on his comment section on that MS page. I was and always do just as every time i do on the net. I say it like it is. And i do so in the right VENUE.
I was MOST SERIOUS about not doing any of the things he accuses on his comment page at MySpace.
I went off on him on his MATHABA postings. And Until that venue was seen for what it was i commented there for some time all without getting banned
as he insisted they do to one of there PAYING customers.
Now he can fume that he banned me from that myspace page and that i was causing "Crap fights" Till the French Bovines come home to poo it will NOT make it true.
I have a SERIOUS rules about lies. Detect even one lie in a person in a place like Daryl or Eric's house and then that house needs SERIOUS investigation.
So i did.
I as i have posted lots before i have Seen AND Heard Most of that which comprises the body of work that is IAMTHEWITNESS and Eric's site and boy the trouble this man is in is huge. Frack the "Law" the trouble i am talking about is when a habitual liar has SO many followers that he is daring the fix to come for him. (Read:Liars get cancer Habitual liars get TERMINAL cancer)
I trust everyone right up to the point of the first LIE I know for sure then they look like Evil in need of EDUCATION and FIX.
As it stands now i see Sutter running fast into "FIRE".
First you take D.C. Then you take New York (:
I didn't mean it as a personal attack. I was just trying to encourage you to use softer words. After all this is just a forum, not the Spanish Inquisition! Peace.
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COZ, it's my belief that Daryl grew to value his professional ties to Bollyn very much. Bollyn was producing excellent material (the only reason I ever harbored any suspicions about him) and Daryl had little other support. Other than Huf and Bollyn, there wasn't anyone who regularly and did high quality investigative work. Bollyn was widely admired in the truth movement, and the fact that he chose to work with TFC had to be a real feather in Smith's cap.
Surely you can see how the sudden disappearance of Bollyn would upset Smith for a) the loss of a real partner in the effort b) the possibility that they were being targeted for removal.
Bollyn has now done a 180 turn against Smith and whatever phone calls and emails were made did not make sense until Bollyn publicly made his declaration.
After Bollyn appeared publicly, then Smith could reevaluate. Hence the emphasis on the personal differences which take on greater significance NOW but could be overlooked in name of the battle against Zionism.
PS - I assumed that if you told News from the West not to link to you that they would. If that's not how things work, I apologize.
From Eric Hufschmid's site:
Smith and I accomplished a lot together during the past couple years, but we will go our separate ways now. On 8 Sep 2007, Smith demanded that I defend him in his dispute with Christopher Bollyn, but I refuse to criticize Bollyn. Smith decided he no longer wants to work with me.
I suppose Smith will maintain his site, but I will put some articles here just in case
Source
And then there was one.
How long before Smith and Huf start to call each other "Zionist agents"? ROTFLOL!
Capt'n Spam gleefully reports that Smith and Hufschmid are parting company. What does this mean?
Commonsense suggests that while Eric is willing to let Bollyn go without recrimination, probably valuing Bollyn's contributions to the truth movement more than personal loyalty, Smith sees Bollyn's unjustified backstabbing as a sign of some more sinister than perhaps a) intimidation
b) exhaustion
or c) a & b
My guess is that, after a little cooling off, they may decide to resume working together. Don't really know, but no one, especially including Spam Daddy Poseidon, has ever provided any evidence that either one of them is rotten.
Think it was Grim Reaper who recently said that many of us were neurotic BEFORE we realized what a lot crap everything we believed was. I still cut Bollyn some slack for his bail out and bullshit attacks on TFC. I cut Smith and Huf plenty o' slack until such time as evidence emerges that they have been seriously dishonest.
I will once again add the disclaimer that my mind remains open to the possibility that TFC is a setup.
Until that unlikely day, I close by saying it's nice to see the syphllitic Old Po chortling again. Even exposed frauds like him, reduced to wallowing in their own spam (www.takeyourspamback.com, www.spamisus.com, www.endlessbucketsof chum.org), deserve our pity have worked so diligently to earn out contempt.
Interesting news, to say the least; and undoubtedly a good deal more here than meets the eye. I suspect the quintessential truths re: the dissolution and disunion of all 3 of them will gradually be sufficiently assorted and then spelled out (by the subsequent words and works of each-- specifically by such words and works as are unrelated to their differences among themselves).
Poorly expressed, but am hoping for the best for all three of 'em, nevertheless.
According to Mr.Hufschmid, he refused to criticize Mr.Bollyn. and it sounds like Mr.Smith felt betrayed. I think this is understandable since it was Hufscmid's characterizations of Bollyn's telephone conversations which lead to the apparent "misunderstanding" of Boyllns predicament. This is very unfortunate for those that found Smith interviews insightful. It appears that Daryl was squeezed from both sides. This very interesting and sad.
Eric Hufschmid posted the following on his site.
"Smith no longer wants to work with me
Smith and I accomplished a lot together during the past couple years,
but we will go our separate ways now. On 8 Sep 2007, Smith demanded that I defend him in his dispute with Christopher Bollyn, but I refuse to criticize Bollyn. Smith decided he no longer wants to work with me."
Source
Wait just a sec, Eric! Who, pray tell, wrote all the Bollyn is a Zionist agent, or victim nonsense on Daryl's site?
Agreed. Bollyn's best work was much better than Eric's. However, they both produced rubbish, such as Eric's "everyone is an agent" disinformation, and Bollyn's "exploding thermate batteries", "Flight 93 landed at Cleveland", and Danner's "Global Hawk".
Some of Bollyn's work was too good to be true, especially when considering the contrast with his dubious material and supposed "stupid" or "naive" behavior.
Hufschmid's 'work' was mostly disinfo, and Bollyn's was unreliable. Now Smith has lost both of them. Will he call it a day, or get material from his CIA handlers?
Bollyn was widely admired until he began to exhibit strange behavior a little over a year ago, as his cover was blown at AFP, along with that of his partner-in-crime Greg Szymanski.
The loss of Hufschmid will upset him too.
...as has Hufschmid.
They made sense to those of us who had seen them. And the paranoid conspiracy theorists got it wrong. That's what comes of trusting a man who is guided by his stomach rather than his brain (see below).
Fester's convoluted ad hoc theory is just clutching at straws.
Smith's audio of 18 July 2007 (early morning of the 19th):
But Smith's "agents" got it right, and he got it wrong. And he was so sure. And Smith claimed in his Sept 5 show to have checked Bollyn's articles for their "veracity". If he makes a howler over something like the Bollyns' wellbeing, how can he be trusted to have the necessary judgement to evaluate whether or not Bollyn is disinfo? And that's assuming Smith is an idiot rather than a liar.
It's stretching things too far to believe that Smith, Hufschmid and Bollyn all, by sheer coincidence, had personality defects. One uses his stomach to sort truth from lies, another is a paranoid nut who thinks 99% of truthers are Zionist agents, and another is a paranoid, drunken nut who thinks the ADL and half the Zionists in the world are conspiring to get him whilst he is allegedly capable of producing great works and exposes. Occam's Razor says that the "character defects" theory is itself disinformation, and the reality is that the three of them are or were agents and liars.
Concluding that he "has been taken" because he did not immediately make long statements and do a lot of interviews is a case of counting the chickens before they're hatched.
It's more likely that Smith is lying, than an idiot.
The "disinformation people" were characters such as Fester, who supported TFC. It is not clear which of them are agents, and which were merely duped.
The certainty in Smith's statement makes it look like the spin of a disinfo merchant, rather than merely the ramblings of someone who's got the wrong end of the stick.
That's the spun version; what he told us on Sept 5 was closer to the truth.
The most charitable interpretation is that Smith is simply a nut who lets his stomach be his guide, which is why those who follow Smith get it so wrong. However, Smith is a proven liar.
Chris's account differs from Smith's, so one of them is lying.
Smith mistakenly started to say "Chris", and corrected himself.
He brings out the violins and turns on the crocodile tears, for a man he "never warmed to ever"!
Hufschmid's teaming up with Bollyn was what I thought was going to happen. Chris, Helje and Eric decided that Daryl was to be the fall guy, the equivalent of "Bush / Cheney" in 9/11 theories. They would say Daryl's the bad guy, the "brains" behind the disinfo, and we're going to be turning over a new leaf now that he's gone. Of course, they'll just carry on with their deceptions as before.
Personally, I have purposefully refrained from stating the obvious: that much of the fault (at very least) and breakdown/ failure to effectively communicate must be attributed to Eric-- the mediator, or man in the middle, if you will-- because I did not wish to appear to be picking him out and pointing the finger at him (alone). Of course, I do not possess enough (or ANY) inside information to be asserting anything at all-- other than my opinion.
I shall return someday more temperate, deliberate and better informed-- using an entirely different moniker. Vale.
Gone, except to answer PoSeidon one final time. he says "the reality is that the three of them are or were agents and liars." Naturally, I hope you're wrong, as I feel 99% confident that those words best describe your OWN work and purpose.
As many people know, Eric Hufschmid was not only the ersthwhile webmaster of Daryl's site, but also wrote the articles.
Hmmm...I guess Eric was okay about attacking Christopher Bollyn in print, but for some reason is reluctant to voice these little "gems" about Bollyn on the air.
Here are some "non-criticisms" written by Eric. which by the way he still has up at his website.
Now that Bollyn is under their control, the Zionists are using him to lure people to their deception.
Bollyn gave in
It appears as if the Zionists gave Bollyn an offer to stop working with Hufschmid and Smith and start working for them, or else... well, only they know what the option was.
Bollyn's bizarre behavior does not make sense unless you consider that he was given an option he could not refuse. Their medical problems and stress would make sense if you consider that it was not a pleasant offer.
There are important lessons to learn from the bizarre behavior of the Bollyn family.
1) Bollyn gave up
The evidence suggests that he has given up and agreed to their demands, such as to cease contact with Hufschmid and Smith. He probably also agreed to allow all of his articles to be edited.
This means that he has joined William Rodriguez, Sofia, and who knows how many thousands of other people. Bollyn is now going to be used as bait to lure gullible people to the deceptive sites. Mike Rivero and Alex Jones, for example, can now safely promote Bollyn's articles.
2) Bollyn is no longer a serious researcher
We must keep in mind that all articles that come from Bollyn now should be regarded as bait, not as serious research. We should also realize that William Rodriguez is bait, and so is Sofia and her video 911 Mysteries.
If you understand that these people are now following orders from the Zionist crime network, you will:
a) Avoid the bait.
Don't go to meetings where William Rodriguez or Sofia is speaking. Don't give publicity to a website that has any of the new articles from Bollyn.
If a fisherman discovers that the fish are not biting his bait, he has to give up. Likewise, if the Zionists offer a meeting with William Rodriguez or Sofia, and nobody shows up, what good does it do to use them as bait? Don't take their bait!
If you take the bait, then you are telling the Zionists "Go ahead and use more people as bait. We don't care. We are such dumb animals that we can be abused over and over."
Please make it impossible for the Zionists to get away with this technique. If you support what they're doing, they will do it again, and again, and again. If instead they realize that we no longer take the bait, it won't do them any good to make these types of offers to people.
b) Identify more of the Zionist rats.
The people who are promoting Christopher Bollyn, Sofia, and Rodriguez are part of the Zionist crime network. They are identifying themselves in their attempt to deceive us.
Once you realize that Bollyn is bait, you should wonder why Dale Williams decided to interview Bollyn first, and then the second guest is Captain Eric May, the commander of Ghost Troops. Is it just a coincidence that Williams decided to interview these two people in one show? Perhaps, but it is more likely to be a trick to get people to listen to Captain May. If you learn this trick, you will avoid becoming a sucker.
3) How many others are victims?
Organized crime networks have been bribing and threatening people for a long time. If we don't stand up to this, it's going to continue. We must stop giving support to people who take their bribes or give in to their threats. We should make it impossible for them to get away with this.
Bribery and threats have been a useful technique for controlling people for centuries, but until the Internet came along, it has not been easy for anybody to observe it. We must take advantage of our situation by using the Internet to spread this information and warn people about what just happened to the Bollyn family. Let's try to make the Bollyn family the last victim of this technique.
Bollyn; a broken man
Has Eric finally realized how ridiculous this whole situation he helped to fabricate with Daryl BS about the Bollyns has become?
Poseidon old Chum, looks like I struck a nerve. You're disgorging spam at such at rate old boy, I fear a calamity in your overheated organs of disinfo.
Your usual load of convenient mischaracterizations and self-serving assumptions and generous portions of filler. I won't bother with it.
Great to see you howling about the “99%” being disinfo. That one always gets your full attention. It’s so revealing of what your function is: wouldn’t want the little goy sheep to start asking hard questions about their “leaders” would we Peter? I mean things aren't going well at the Bullshit Factory with Gnome Chomsky fallen, Palast exposed, and Alexander Cockburn sans pants and burning in the sunlight. LatinAmerica just posted a Carol Valentine piece on the topic discussing the case of Justin Raimondo. Is she full of it, too, Peter? Then there’s Robert Fisk, DailyKos, Buzzflash, DemocraticUnderground, and endless “liberal,” “progressive,” “alternative,” “beyond the chum pail” sites and characters soaking up attention, energy, and curiosity. Let’s not forget those that mix truth with racism and hate and poison the well for us: Birdshit Bryant, News from the West, Curt Maynard, and many others. And finally, off the top of my head, the sites like Rense which dabble in a little of everything.
Mericifully, we’ve got the Netwank Champ Blowseidon to lecture us on personality disorders and mechanically parrot vigilance is a deadly sin in the “truth movement.” ROTFLOL indeed.
Fester, LatinAmericanview's blog was either an error or a blatant piece of disinfo, trying to use a 2001 article to smear Raimondo. It's now been debunked.
Some of those you mentioned are BS factories. But "99% of truth seekers connected to the Zionist criminal network"? That's classic disinfo!
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Geez, it's on account of the Smith-Huf-Bollyn discussions. I think Q will restore once this squall has subsided.
Meant to say I thought you had a very fair post on the subject of TFC the other day. Didn't repsond and now I'm too knackered to run it down. I concur that it does appear Daryl has been left "holding the bag" but I'm not willing to condem Huf or Bollyn until I see something solid. Have to wait and see. Peace, Fester
Hey PO,
How has C. Valentines article been debunked? Has Anti-war suggested that the Zionist were responsible for the 911 attacks?
Thanks in advance
I knew I should have qualified my inclusion of Raimondo as I'm pretty sure I have some of his work on Israeli-Mossad involvement.
What I would say is has he ever been out front on the Zionist role? If it's true that he's exposed Bibi, Jabots, etc. then I'd have expected a keener focus in his work. I used to go to antiwar.com everyday and for his stuff especially, but I found a lot more meat at WUFYS, TFC, and other sites with historical work.
I'd like to think Justin is A-ok, maybe he's pushing as hard as he's comfortable doing (MZ's Fisk theory), but I tend to suspect that he's another "fearless" "truthteller" at a prominent site which is exactly the M.O. we should expect from them Elders of Zzzzzzz.