Who's in charge - Bush, Cheney, or israel?

EDITORIAL

Who’s in charge of managing the Iraq war -- Cheney or the zio-cons? Do they work together, or is one of them on top?

Greg Palast’s book Armed Madhouse suggests they’re BOTH in charge. Sometimes the oil companies and the zionists cooperate. Sometimes they compete.

The oil companies did not write the "Project for a New American Century.” Indeed they checkmated part of the neocons’ plans. Palast says the oil companies wanted to work with OPEC to hold down production and boost prices so they could all get richer.

By contrast, the zio-cons wanted to break up OPEC and use Iraq’s oil to topple Arabia so they could begin their “war of civilizations.”

Consider this: we know that Saddam got into trouble because he switched to euros. However, Saddam also got into trouble because one moment he would cut oil production to support the Palestinians, and the next moment he would pump the maximum allowed. Saddam was messing with the oil companies’ plan to hold down production and ratchet up oil prices. Even OPEC did not like this, since up and down movements in prices destabilize the oil industry. Greg Palast’s Armed Madhouse says a Council on Foreign Relations report concludes: Saddam is a "destabilizing influence to the flow of oil to international markets from the Middle East."

Cheney wanted a war to remove Saddam, and to control oil production. He wanted the U.S. and OPEC economies to remain pegged to each other.

The zio-cons wanted a war because love to see the Goyim fight.

"Christian" evangelicals wanted a war because they are insane.

The oil companies are forced to work with zionists because zionists control most of the USA, and have their claws in the central banks. What a mess.

Some Jews blame the oil companies, since Jews are always "victims." Alan Greenspan in his memoirs says the war is about oil, not WMDs.

Chomsky, an admitted zionist, blames everything on U.S. corporate imperialism. He says U.S. oil companies and weapons makers run the Iraq war. He says the israel lobby is not important. He fears an anti-zionist backlash that will "victimize" Jews. He ignores the fact that the israel lobby is insane (although he sometimes criticizes israel itself).

Thus, I see Bush sitting between the two forces. On one side are oil companies, which don’t want to attack Iran, because they don’t want to destabilize oil profits.

On the other side are zionists and their “Christian” evangelical stooges, who insist on attacking Iran so they can trigger a world war.

Bush is the empty space between them all. One day he pleases the zionists and “Christian” warmongers by threatening Iran. The next day he pleases the oil companies by merely talking about sanctions. He grovels at AIPAC functions, but he also has Cheney on his shoulder, plus “Christian” warmongers scurrying around the room, talking of "Christ's love" and howling for murder.

Anti-zionists ignore the role of corporatism and the oil companies. The anti-war crowd ignores the role of the zionists. “Evangelicals” ignore the role of their own evil and stupidity. All of them ignore the role of private central banks.

Yow!

In one sense the central banks are above them all. In another sense, the banks are dependent on them all, since nothing happens without human energy.

Meanwhile the rug has been pulled out from under all of them. The catastrophic race to the bottom (off-shoring and the quest for ever-cheaper labor) has caused a trade deficit that is destroying the dollar’s value and its reserve currency status.

No country that offshores its own production can have balanced trade. Americans have survived this long because the dollar has been the world’s reserve currency. To buy and sell oil, one must have dollars. But now Arabia has disconnected. Petrodollar hegemony is disappearing. Even with control of oil, the dollar's reserve currency status is eroded by trade deficits and budget deficits. Plus, we have endlessly mounting war debts.

Babylon is dying. Shorn of industry, dependent on offshored manufactured goods and services, and deprived of the dollar as reserve currency, the US will quickly become a “third world country.” Already, college graduates must drive cabs and flip burgers.

Even if the government magically woke up, it could not re-acquire the manufacturing capability it has given away to other countries. (But I still think we’d survive if we ended the war and took control of our banking and currency.)

As the dollar loses its reserve currency status, the Fed will have to “magically” move from an $800 billion trade deficit to a trade surplus, so the US can earn enough Euros to pay for its continued imports of oil and goods. That is, the central banks will play games to buy us a little more time, but this will be a temporary fix at best.

Meanwhile there’s the ever-rising mountain of consumer debt.

The way I see it, the USA will have to go to war no matter what. War will stimulate the economy and buy more time, but it too is a temporary fix.

The “North American Union” already exists (as Claymoremind notes, Canada’s dollar is now worth the same as the U.S. dollar). How can a “North American Union” address our trade deficit,our budget deficits, and our overall debt to the banks? How can it save us from zionist Jews? How can it get rid of israel, so we can work with Muslims?

The first thing we must do, no matter what, is end the war. That would leave the oil companies in charge, and we would have high fuel prices, but it would buy us some time, and the oil companies would cooperate with OPEC. Also the oil companies won't crash the US economy, since they need Americans to buy oil.

Finally, I'm curious to see what will happen to israel when the USA dies.

Will the USA be like ancient Rome, which finally had to destroy Judea?

That’s a scary question.

If the USA threatens to cut israel loose, israel will nuke the USA (false flag) in order to trigger a war. It’s part of their “Samson option.” Even if the israeli public and government opposed a nuclear strike, there are plenty of factions in israel that are insane. And if they don’t do it, the neocons in the USA will. And if the neocons don’t do it, “Christian evangelicals” will perpetrate a false flag. Our asylum is well-stocked with lunatics of all stripes.

Or how about this…suppose we get into a world war and we LOSE (which is quite possible, given our weakness).

Would it be our worst nightmare?

Or would it be the best thing that could happen to us?

Posted in Submitted by thx1138 on Fri, 2007-09-21 14:45.

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I would be remiss however not to remind readers that "israel" and "oil" are very closely intertwined as is "oil" and "banking/dollars."

Therefore, where at first there appears to be three diverging interests at play - there really is only one.

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"Money" has no value - people do.

qrswave | Fri, 2007-09-21 18:13

Bush is just a puppet on a string that is skillfully controlled by both Cheney and Israel.

A war monger like Cheney likes the death and destruction the never ending WOT is bringing to the ME and hey, if he can make a few bucks at the same time, well neato for Big Dick.

The ZIONAZI's of Israel and America know this is the best time to get their plans for ME domination enacted.

They'll benefit from any of Cheney's machinations and are drooling at the thought of another war for Isreal, again fought by Americans, this time against Iran.

And hey, if Israel's weapons industry can make a few bucks off that prospect, good... double-good.

Greg Bacon | Fri, 2007-09-21 20:26

this some brainteaser post. Your assessment is truly one of the military strategist. You did not leave anything out of picture. However I agree with your fears that war is inevitable as all of mentioned need time to find out how to salvage this global monetary fiasco that will drastically reconfigure world as we know it. But as you said all of their options are temporary fix. More war will just speed up collapse and usher world into previously unknown instability and chaos. And who lurks in the chaos? Mr. Nasty (Antichrist). We are bound to have him on the world stage not far in future. Surely this could be discredited as religious mambo jumbo but all prophecies alarmed us to this state of world affairs as being right conditions for his appearance. Brace up for some very weird and shocking developments...and yes stock some basic food reserves in your basements (just in case).

"Let there be Light!"

Traveller | Fri, 2007-09-21 20:26

Here is another way to look at it. In centuries past, the world was ruled by monarchies like the British royal family, the House of Habsburg, the Romanovs and others. However, various technological advancements like the printing press began to erode their power. The media was quickly controlled by Jews. Jews began to subvert the power of the ruling class using liberalism. Eventually from a small group of Jews arose the international Jew. The Banking Guilds (International Jews) with the use of secret societies were able to infiltrate high societies and eventually the royal houses. They were also able to ingratiate themselves with timely loans which eventually become burdensome debt. Late in the 19th century technological advancements threaten the status quo. The general classes of men were becoming wealthy. The Industrial Revolution made economic mobility possible. The means of production became so efficient that the problem of over production developed as a threat to the smooth functioning of the existing society. Later it was argued that the distribution of resources was the root cause for the inequities which conspired to rob men the utopian vision. Consider for a moment what a world with access to resources and education would imply to the ruling class? Could the status quo be maintained in world that had fundamentally solved the great barriers to the Utopian vision?

“War is a solution to the problem of over production.”

It is a truism that that those in positions of power want to remain in power. The great monarchies and the ambitious banking guilds had shared interest. The biggest threat to the status quo would come from development and evolution of the middle class. Moreover, it should be clear that if the great bulk of humanity suddenly became unshackle from the debilitating effects of the problem of scarcity then “the lower classes” would quickly develop and become a force for change. The solution to this problem would come in the form of economic bondage. War is the destruction of resources, means of production, and human hope. It should not come as any great surprise to any one who has studied history that as mankind stood at the precipices of evolving that the great wars were waged against the bulk of humanity. The great wars of the early twentieth century effectively dashed the promise of the technological developments of the century. Almost over night the means of production were converted into war related production. Over production became scarcity. Excess production was quickly consumed in the war effort. The great resources which could have gone toward improving the conditions of man were reallocated to rebuilding. Prosperity became debt with interest. The great wars created opportunities World Jewry. The Banksters made agreements with eastern European Jewry and the Zionist. These alliances were essential to the war efforts. Once the dust settled from the two world wars it could be seen that the Banksters had broke the back of the monarchies. The Banksters ruled over the old monarchies of Europe. They also effectively controlled the world sole super economic/military power- the US. Bolsheviks controlled Russia and the Zionist began to conquer Palestine. The old aristocrats took a back seat and watched as their empires were systematically crave up. The House of Rothschild has over the last century been able to expand their power bases using American Military power and dollar hegemony. However, the Zionists with the help of the Bolsheviks and other Judaic control countries has gained enormous power and has begun a war for world control against the Banksters. The Zionists hope to implode the Bankster controlled economic system by expanding Israel’s territory and eventually controlling the flow of oil. They are fully aware that if one can control the oil then one can control the economies of the world. Oil is the de facto currency of the world.
The geopolitical situation becomes even more convoluted when on considers that the American Military has become fractured into three factions. There are the pro-Zionist, pro-Banksters and pro-Americans. The surge of Jewish and Zionist awareness is an attempt by the pro-American faction to galvanize Americans against Jews in general once the economic implosion begins. Any way it is a LOT MORE COMPLICATED THAN THIS BUT IT IS A START. One last thought, it is the great fear of all the great powers that someone who is not on the radar has access to nuclear weapons. This would be the ultimate monkey wrench!

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LatinAmericanview | Fri, 2007-09-21 20:43

The NEW Bank in our world is Uranium-235,Platinum,Gold,Oil,Silver,Copper....

The general man is so far from controlling the BANK and it's hard earned resources now that he is unlikely to regain control before the FIRE comes.

THEY Control OUR needed resources AND THEY control all our ENERGY so THEY control us ALL in every important way(To them). Until WE ALL ACT In unison we are ALL screwed by the man with all the energy controls backed up with total monetary access and government power.

Do you want to have a Money Changer Boot on your neck for the remainder of your life?? Go ahead just DO NOTHING. They will co-opt you into there MACHINE soon enough.

Just think about how many thousands and thousands of years of energy is wasted in the world wide stockpile of nukes?? I see ALL our energy and freedom TRAPPED in a nuclear bomb storage bunker.

I want you ALL to see that this is YOUR ENERGY. You paid to harvest it from the earth and render it into weapon of DEATH.

This Energy is not going to the people. it is hidden away for your DISADVANTAGE and there CONTROLS.

Your legacy is trapped in a WAR program and it need to be released.

Me? I Fight THEM.

You??

First you take D.C. Then you take New York (:

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lamerok | Fri, 2007-09-21 22:00

Who is in charge?
They all seem so insane that it is hard to comprehend that they are human beings.
Cheney may be a robot, he hasn't seemed himself, since 1987.
Truth is, we don't need a war to prop up this economy.
We need to spend the same amount of budget on infrastructural support, health services, education, and provide better public works.
We spend all our money on these wars. No wonder our Karma sucks.
It doesn't seem to matter to anyone that only Congress can declare war, according to Article 1, section 8, of the US Constitution. There was supposed to be a full and fair debate, in Congress, which there was not. Yet, nobody worries about this detail, when spending trillions on killing people.

Some of you may think that people suck, so it's a good thing to wipe out a few million, here or there.
And, maybe you could be right, but then again, I think people are inherently good. If people have a choice, they usually chose good, over evil.
It's other forces that twist people into doing horrendous things.
Forces, like war. Imagine yourself loving your family, and watching them burn to death, or be raped and tortured.
Ask yourself what would you do?

This war thing is totally evil. From the first time that Churchill got away with targeting civilians with WMD, the entire weapons industry has gone to the worst possible evil of human nature, and made money at it.

ThoughtsinSpace | Fri, 2007-09-21 22:29

Cheney's a crypto jew too, according to Richard Koshimizu ( http://www15.ocn.ne.jp/~oyakodon/newversion/yudayasensou.e.htm) :

http://www15.ocn.ne.jp/~oyakodon/doc4.htm#cheney_jew

"ANOTHER PERFECTLY CONCEALED JEW, ......offspring OF Yiddish "Khayney" of Stockholm Ghetto.

Jew HunterBy Viktor Ivanov
http://www.exile.ru/178/178030000.html

More cleverly concealed is the most powerful man in America, Vice President Richard Cheney. Indeed, the name Cheney comes from old Yiddish, "Khayney" or "ankles." They grew up in the Jewish ghetto in Stockholm, which they ruled with an iron fist, but they tried to assimilate with the Christians.
Perhaps if Cheney and Rumsfeld, or ankles and crooked-saucepan, confess to their Jewishness, the world a safer place for ev
eryone, including the Jews whom they purport to represent.

DICK CHENEY WAS A CONSULTANT TO JINSHA, the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs. His colleagues at JINSHA were Zionist Jew, Richard Perle, Douglass Feith and many other Iraq-bombing-craze Jews. Any reason for Cheney to attach to a Jewish war monger institute? Simply because he is a secret Jew."

Nobodaddy | Sat, 2007-09-22 06:43

"Would it be our worst nightmare?

Or would it be the best thing that could happen to us?"

.....that your two last questions are wanting answers of the spiritual.

If I may....

Both "yes" to your questions.

An example.......

The Kreestian zionist neocons will be so disappointed when they find Jesus won't come for them.

No beam me up, Scotty!

Jesus won't be "up there", either. But the devil with the fire and pitchfork will be absent, also.

The only "rapture" they will take pleasure is the cold, grey emptiness of a dull brassy light. No color, no beautiful bright light, no comfort, no joy, no out.

Just the incoming memories of the madness and murder they created on earth - directly/indirectly, wrapping around them like a giant circular cinema.

Pain, ten-fold and much more. This hell, it's theirs, they created it, so they will endure it, re-live it in amazing accuracy beyond the senses - they will have no choice. They already made their choices on earth.

http://zmagsite.zmag.org/Sep2006/berlet0906.html

They should enjoy while the good feeling of blood flowing lasts....

Rhiannon | Sat, 2007-09-22 07:02

On the surface, I do not think that playing JINSA's game for political reasons is the same as being a full-fledged zionist.

HOWEVER...

If Cheney's a crypto-Jew, then much of my argument is invalid, and war becomes all the more inevitable.

YIKES !

The way I see it, if a person has ANY ashkenazi blood, and does not specifically renounce zionism and the Talmud, that person is a zionist. Period.

The Nazis understood this. That's why they wanted to know about a person's heritage and background.

The Ashke-nazis understand it too. That's why they want to know about a person's heritage and background.

No one gets into their inner circle unless he has ashkenzazi blood in his family. Any "Gentile" that rises to power among ashkenazis (in any walk of life) has ashkenazi blood.

If there are exceptions to that rule, I would like to see them.

thx1138 | Sat, 2007-09-22 07:26

Note: I said "rises to power."

I did not mean to imply that anyone who has power is a crypto-Jew.

There are plenty of Gentiles that already have power.

Jews help them keep the lower classes under control.

thx1138 | Sat, 2007-09-22 07:29

Rhiannon, thanks so much for your comment.

Zionist Jews invented the “rapture” myth (in its current form). The myth explicitly supports zionism.

The myth is not found anywhere in the Bible, in any translation of the Bible.

The book The Unbelievable Pre-Trib Origin by Dave MacPherson researched the origin of the “rapture” myth. It says the myth began among a few Christians in London, circa 1820. One Presbyterian minister, Edward Irving, ran with the myth, and was therefore expelled from the Presbyterian church in 1832.

Irving’s group then established themselves as the Catholic Apostolic Church and continued the myth, which caught on in the USA to some extent.

The myth got its biggest boost when it was popularized by the Scofield Reference Bible, which first appeared in 1909.

Cyrus Ingerson Scofield was a zionist Jew that specifically twisted the "rapture" myth to support zionism.

“Jewish leaders living in the 1850’s knew the USA would be soon become a power house of finance, manufacturing, education and military power. They also knew that Christian church growth would eventually shift from England to the United States. Thus, they wanted to get in on the ground floor and have their people and doctrine in place in order to take control of the budding Christian church growth in the U.S. and make sure that from the very beginning they would have their doctrine anchored in dispensationalism with a strong support for the Zionist movement.”

(Source: http://www.eaec.org/newsletters/2007/Jan-Mar/NL2007Jan-Mar1.htm)

One of the Jewish infiltrators was Cyrus Ingerson Scofield.

thx1138 | Sat, 2007-09-22 07:58

When I first heard about the book

IT'S NOT ABOUT THE OIL, STUPID - David Duke

I thought, no it is EVERYTHING.

Oil is just a part of it.

Water, Gas, Electricity, other natural resources...

Imagine the loot the mercenaries and soldiers probably stole from Iraq in their first wave of invasion of this country steeped in extremely valuable historical artifacts, and such.

The pipeline, more strategically placed military posts, blah blah blah....

It's everything. The global elite want EVERYTHING.

Rhiannon | Sat, 2007-09-22 08:02

I have not ever looked into the history of kreestian zionism. And, really, I must. So thanks for those names/books - great information.

More book/internet reading - before they try to take it away....

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Couldn't respond sooner. You were typing at the same time as I, then I got kicked off the computer after hitting enter.

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Thanks for new info. - well it's new to me.

Rhiannon | Sat, 2007-09-22 12:28

Here is an interesting qoute from Douglas Reed's "Controversy of Zion" p.245

In 1952, in a London weekly journal, he wrote:

"Winston, Lloyd George, Balfour and I were brought up vigorous Protestants, who believe in the coming of a new Saviour when Palestine returns to Jews". This is the Messianic idea of Cromwell's Millenarians, foisted on the 20th Century. Only the men named could say if the statement is true, and but one of them survives. Whether this is the true basis of Protestantism, vigorous or otherwise, readers may judge for themselves. None will contend that it is a sound basis for the conduct of State policy or military operations in war. Also, of course, it expresses the same impious idea that moved the Prophet Monk and all such men: that God has forgotten his duty and, having defaulted, must have it done for him. Anyway, a group had formed and we may as well use for it the name which this man gave it: the Vigorous Protestants.
The First World War began, with these Vigorous Protestants ambitious to attain power so that they might divert military operations in Europe to the cause of procuring Palestine for the Zionists. "

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