Open letter to Iran ambassador to the U.N. re: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's U.S. visit
"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."
Thomas Jefferson
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, President of Iran, talks to the audience at the forum at Columbia University in New York City on September 24, 2007
Update: Anti-Zionist Jews hold signs outside Columbia U.
REUTERS/Lucas Jackson
Typical Zionist propaganda
September 24, 2007
To whom it may concern,
I am a vigilant American citizen who supports reason, human rights, environmental & animal welfare and upholding of American Constitutional principles since the American Republic was founded on the inspired doctrine [of the Enlightenment]. I watched with attention the MSNBC cable channel live airing of President Ahjadinemad at noon on September 24. I ignored Fox News Channel and CNN because of the frequent and irritating interruptions of the talking head commentators during the live airing of the ongoing forum.
I would like to provide my commentary as an observer of international affairs.
First of all, I consider myself an anti-Zionist (and supportive of Jewish anti-Zionist movements) activist who have written a number of column articles on the Internet. I have a fairly good grasp of the history of Zionism and its regressive ideologies in determining the course of human history in the second half of the 20th century and 21st century that carry destructive means for the whole of the human civilization on this planet.
I thank Mr. Ahmadinejad for delivering his views at Columbia University, however controversial these views may be to some American people with considerable reservation and bias, some extreme in belligerent attitude.
I apologize on behalf of the well-informed American people who are vigilantly aware of the geopolitical affairs that the American reception is generally negative in spite of Mr. Ahmadinejad's views explained in a civil forum. Starting with Columbia University president for misrepresenting the introductionary statements calling Mr. Ahmadinejad as a "petty and cruel dictator" and other defamationary statements. It is a contradiction to the procedure in the proper introduction of the visiting guest. The defamation continues with the mainstream American media's exaggerated claims, for example the false claim that Mr. Ahmadinejad called for State of Israel to be "wiped off the map" and the commentators' irrational fear, particularly former U.N. ambassador John Bolton on Fox News and Democratic candidate Mike Richardson [on MSNBC after the forum]. Most notably [sic] of the hateful bias are Michael Ramirez's September 24 editorial cartoon as appeared in Investor's Business Daily, New York Post and New York Daily News, the latter labeling Mr. Ahmadinejad as "Hitler" with the large impact newsprint captions "The evil has landed" on the front page.
As you might be well aware, this is part of the orchestrated Zionist propaganda (managed by the upper echeons of the media-owning corporations favoring oligarch Elite and Zionist factions) designed to deceive the American populace into accepting the lies and defamation as acceptable and factual. I assure you those of us who are aware of the truth discerned from the pollution of disinformation and deceitful propaganda know better and I hope that Mr. Ahmadinejad have the strong will to deflect and ignore the venomous lies and insults directed at him in the forums wherever he have been invited.
I have criticism towards Mr. Ahmadinejad, that he was purposefully evasive in deflecting the direct questions (not including the simplistic "yes or no" question) with repeated pattern of rhetorical questions and that he denies the existence of gays and lesbians in the sovereign Islamic Republic of Iran. I want to inform Mr. Ahmadinejad that he can say what he believes, but ignoring Iranian homosexuals as non-existent is very ignorant. I am also disturbed that the Iranian state treat some people as pariahs of the society, such as the discriminization of premartial copulation, and are subject to the capital punishment which I view as a harsh measure when certain offenses merit imprisonment and fine. This is of course a state affair, since Saudi Arabia and other neighbor states have the similar policy and some are still supported by the United States in normal trade and diplomacy.
Mr. Ahmadinejad's view on the connection between science and spirituality is interesting in compact philosophical dissertation. I do ask for Mr. Ahmadinejad to reconsider his assertion that homosexuals do not exist in the Iranian state, because stating this view as fact is misleading and may tarnish Mr. Ahmadinejad's credibility in the rational world where he purports to present the truth from the point of view countering the wave of Zionist and Imperialist lies.
I would like for Mr. Ahmadinejad to know that some of us diligent Americans appreciate his offering the perspective in the forum at a prestigious American university, even if we find his view odd and unorthodox. And he should always ignore the insults directed at him because the corrupt and submissive-to-the-ruling-Elite Western mainstream media encourage libel and defamation because the liars cannot tolerate the truth that stands in their way as they seek to control the hearts and minds of the American public through poisonous stream of antagonistic propaganda.
I hope that U.S. and Iran will re-establish the relations despite U.S.'s interventionism and acts of war (Iran Air 655) in the past. It is the Zionists who conspire to harm the sovereign states of Iran and Syria and they have the corrupt public servants in the Western hemisphere to do their bidding.
President John Kennedy have said the following in light of the affair: "We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people."
Sincerely,
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As found in the 'mainstream news' section at http://iamthewitness.com/index.htm :
"Candlelight Vigil--
If this is true, you can bet that the Americans (or the rest of the World for that matter) won't hear about it in the news."
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http://www.bestirantravel.com/culture/wtc-vigil.html
That's odd, ..I never got that impression of him. What did I miss ? Or is the " Daily News " not even worthy of hanging on the paper roll in your bathroom ? Perhaps they should call it "The Daily Jews" !
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To Jesus Through Mary
The truth is there ARE no homosexuals in Iran and unheard of in Afghanistan.
When you see two men walking with hand around each other's shoulders or holding hands no one will find it odd, it is assumed that they are good friends.
Some afghans women were seeing a hollywood movie and I was translating and they found it so shocking that they are men who don't accept the sexual company of women. They just couldn't accept it because they had never heard of it before. "Women are pretty and delicate and they can make a man happy what would two men do???"
They touched their fingers to their noses - a gesture of May God protect me-(mostly used by provincials from villages) something like a hurried cross the christians make across their chests.
In Afghanistan when young men come of age their mother's find wives for them and I haven't seen a single young man who has objected or not been excited at the prospect of getting married even though he has never seen the girl before.
I myself have found it very strange and yet 98% this setup has worked.
There are some men and a small number of girls who refused to marry according to their parent's choice but their are none who refused to marry at all.
Most of these men only discovered about homos when they went to the west as refugees or migrant workers, before that they could not imagine the existence of same sex attractions.
Its not part of their history, nor in the media nor in their literature. So you can't blame Ahmednejad(sp) for giving this answer. If there was such group wouldn't the Americans find them and use them against the Iranians? I bet you they would have been regular faces on the MSM and quite famous.
The Indians and Pakistanis are familiar with a cult whom they call 'Hijras' made up of men who dress up like women but they are rumored to be eunichs but I'm not sure.
But it is a cultural thing. In Iran and Afghanistan homosexuals are unheard of. (Though I don't have the latest on Afghanistan because they have all the satellite channels and are exposed to all kinds new stuff) But in Iran its the traditional stuff-hardly any voilence and no sex in their TV and movies. They never bring anything on TV which the whole family cannot see.
"The truth is there ARE no homosexuals in Iran and unheard of in Afghanistan."
I do not buy that for an instant-- whether it be from some convincing documentation I seem to recall finding either here: http://heretical.com/ or here: http://www.jrbooksonline.com/ , or from some other source, I cannot say.
(: I should have said 'seen' at one of those or another site, and not 'found'-- for I assuredly was not looking for them :)
Nobodaddy said:
I do not buy that for an instant
The same thought from some people of that region who couldn't believe about homosexuality I guess it is a cultural thing and those studies that you are referring to have only been done on western subjects.
My argument is backed by the conviction that if homosexuals did exist in Iran in some numbers the US would have found them and used them against Iran and Islam. And we would have heard about them.
These people would have made a very useful group for the US to manipulate politically.
In indonesia-another islamic country-I've heard about active homosexuals but not in this region.
I don't know on what basis Lee Bollinger even asked this question?
Had he heard about mass abuses against homosexuals or thier arrests or thier murders or anything!! I mean I can understand the one about women because there are segration laws in Iran but on whose complaint did he ask about the treatment of homosexuals?
(Strangely these very individuals fail to see the total inhumanity that is being meted out to a another- a whole nation; men, women and kids being crushed under the boot of tyrannical zionist boots-the Palestanians.) They don't seem to be so concered about those people who really need someone to ask for justice on thier behalf, and here they throw accusations about the rights of homosexuals when no one has even complained.
Shows that the homosexuals are just another of their ace cards that they use to win their games-they don't care about ANYBODY or anything but power. Anybody who tries to stop them or come in their path are labeled as evil.
http://www.president.ir/en/
This site has a 'mail to president' link.
People here are asking why he hasn't said this or that why not write to him. Also he'd be encouraged to know that Americans support him as opposed to Zionists.
Justice For All - "I don't know on what basis Lee Bollinger even asked this question?"
And all the following paragraphs thereafter!
Thank you! I was just thinking the same thing.
C'mon! It's irrelevant! By Lee Bollinger's estimation of crimes against people in Iran, then Ahmadinejad can ask him why does America has such a high rate of pedophelia and pornoraphy? Child rapes and murders in numbers that are astronomical compared to a country like Iran.
Among a multitude of other MAJOR crimes, Ahmadinejad can also ask Bollinger about the people of Katrina, why didn't America take care of its own?
Absolutely, this homosexual issue is just another way to distract from the BIGGER ISSUES of the Middle East.
America has its OWN YARD to clean up....who does Mr. Bollinger think he is? Ahmadinejad's mother-in-law?
are sick and perverted beings and I find it really stupid to argue about their right to freely express this abominable practice. As for Iran stance on this they have legal system in place for people who have bisexual issues, they can get sex change through the national health care free of charge. I personally would legally ban public expression of this homosexual behavior with no apologies to anyone. What the hell you people think, are you gods or you claim power to lobby God to accept homosexuality as normal and permissible behavior. To Muslims homosexuality is abomination and clearly unacceptable behavior not because they think so but because God said so. Clear line is drawn here between believers and dwellers of darkness. And of course no apologies to anyone on this issue.
"Let there be Light!"