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"Many have called Jeff Rense an “agent.” I am now forced to agree with this assessment,  I wish to use my discussion of Rense to make some general points about anti-zionism. However, my comments apply to most commercial outlets outside wufys. Most are cults. Most are hypocritical liars. Most use “anti-zionism” as a means to get power.  Wufys is not a commercial web site. We do not make our living from our comments. We have no need to compete, and thus no need to feel envy. We are more Democratic than other web sites, and therefore more truthful. A truly open and Democratic group  is not a cult. Therefore its contributors can spot cults easily.  If we  spend most of our time attacking each other, we will think we have a monopoly on “truth,” when in fact we will be imprisoned in a dark world. All this leads to self-destruction, which helps zionists."

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Why didn't he post it himself?

I don't agree with his harsh assessment of Rense and others.

(Did Rense also say something about WUFYS and the satire on his radio show?)

Either way, it's not bad per se that they accept donations and advertising. It depends on whether or how they let it affect their content.

But I do agree that love is what drives this site (I can personally guarantee that it's not money).

And I agree that we must not only be civil and respectful to one another, but we must also strive to support, teach, and learn both from each other and from our own mistakes.

An idealist? Maybe.

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"Money" has no value - people do.

qrswave | Fri, 2007-10-05 23:42

For the record, www.iamthewitness.com does NOT run ads. Additionally, they do not shy away from sensitive material because it might be a hassle or cost them business. I'll leave the TFC "cult" when they start lying or ignoring important info. Otherwise, fine sentiments AZ.

Fester | Fri, 2007-10-05 23:57

I was telling him not to worry about the glitch on the site yesterday. I think he is still having trouble.

He requested that I put this up for a post.

I like Rense myself. I'm not into that alien stuff, but he has lots of good articles.

Against Zionism isn't telling us not to visit his site.

I was checking out Rense just now and I can't find anything that he is saying about the satire belonging to AZ.

Am I looking in the wrong places?

Rhiannon | Sat, 2007-10-06 00:10

Rense said something on his radio show...?

I don't know. I don't get his show, so I have never listened to it.

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AZ, how are you doing? Are you still having problems accessing WUFYS?

Well then MOVE to another part of the world and do it quickly! PRONTO!

[just kidding]

Rhiannon | Sat, 2007-10-06 00:33

I am on a computer at work. I have only 5 seconds to type. I still cannot get on at home. Rense discussed WUFYS on his radio show. His comments were unflattering, to put it mildly. He is much more vicious that I realized before.

On his web site he accuses us of being zionists that spread hoaxes.

"This is the third time this site has floated hoaxed stories. The world is in bad enough shape because of pernicious zionism. And that includes academics...all one has to do is note what it did to Prof Norman Finkelstein at DePaul University. Creating more anti-zionist material out of thin air is like adding a cup of water to the Pacific ocean. It's clear the people behind this are attempting to cloud the issue of zionism. Won't happen."

(http://www.rense.com/general78/hoax.htm)

Thus, WUFYS is now a "zionist agent." I have also discovered other things about Rense that have left me shocked and disappointed. Thus, I don't think I was too harsh.

But now I must go.

thx1138 | Sat, 2007-10-06 00:51

Rense Covers the UFO and other parts is for JUST this reason. What better way to keep your eye on REAL Weird aircraft And Sniff out the Dis-nwo types with the same rock.

Rense is not putting his head in the sand about UFO reports.. And all the propaganda the MSM machine can pump is not stopping him from doing the work of keeping an eye on all the EARTHLY top science and war machines.

Even if he has to deal with the other side of reality to find the info of JUST what the American War Machine is testing AND Has deployed... If one was able to pull the head out of the sandbox long enough to see the Bullshit Storm for what it is.... A Mass chew toy for everyone to play with Whilst being dealt a death blow.

First you take D.C. Then you take New York (:

Masher1 | Sat, 2007-10-06 02:34

Rhiannon,
I could never locate the Rense material on AZ's satirical blog either.
AZ,
How can possibly put witness in the same category as Rense and Jones (or anybody) continues to escape me-- or perhaps the truth of the matter (re: IATW, &c.) has entirely eluded you.

Nobodaddy | Sat, 2007-10-06 08:17

.. that will explain why I also missed it. Great blog though AZ/ thx (except for the inclusion of TFC, oc).

Nobodaddy | Sat, 2007-10-06 08:30

It is upsetting that Rense would call the satire a 'zionist hoax'. I see that he is critcizing too harshly. Not only that, he is picking just a few posts out, smashing them, without realizing what the whole mission of WUFYS is about.

He could have added much more on WUFYS instead of sweeping us aside with one terse paragraph based on just that one topic - satire.

I will say this: some people really enjoy satire, others hate it and find it confusing.

It's like some of the humor in Monty Python, you get it or you don't.

But I would expect Jeff to have a broad mind in this area - well maybe he is not into satire. I'm very disappointed.

Still, I like his website. I don't visit often, but some good info there.

Rhiannon | Sun, 2007-10-07 01:26

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/blog/590

A recent gelgamex jones show that says:
TRUST JEFF RENSE in there somewhere.

Grim Reaper | Wed, 2008-06-04 04:52

I agree. I have suspected Hufschmid and Rense both for quite awhile. They are nothing but doom and gloom, and both propose a message of desperation, helplessness, and confusion as to the real problems we all face. Rense is racist too, no doubt. It's subtle, but it's there. He puts a lot of anti-Black material up, probably so he can help usher in the 'race war'. Hufschmid is just a loon.

Ehud Olmerts Wo... | Wed, 2008-06-04 05:26

Someone said: "For the record, www.iamthewitness.com does NOT run ads. Additionally, they do not shy away from sensitive material because it might be a hassle or cost them business. I'll leave the TFC "cult" when they start lying or ignoring important info. Otherwise, fine sentiments AZ."

This is wrong. DBS won't touch certain documents which might hurt his theory claiming "Hitler was Jewish" (the Eckart and Wagener memoirs), nor will he address the holocaust issue. He also has a PayPal link. Someone has to be giving him quite a bit of loot to maintain the archive he has since a lot of it is audio. That uses a tremendous amount of bandwidth which costs a lot. He cannot possibly be raking in that much money month-to-month from his meager little supporters like you and I. I listen to him occasionally, but certainly with a grain of salt. He does, after all, look Jewish; if Hufschmid (a definite shill) does indeed have a photo of him, which he claims to have, Whoever that man is on Hufschmid's site (allegedly DBS), he looks Jewish to me.

Ehud Olmerts Wo... | Wed, 2008-06-04 05:34

..i don't even care if he was a GELGAMEK.

THE REAL QUESTION is what was his true intent,
but not even that matters as much as:
THE FRUIT: MILLIONS OF ROTTEN DEAD CORPSES.

ALL THE POWERS, ESPECIALLY THE ROTTCHILLDS & KIN ARE TO BLAME.

Grim Reaper | Wed, 2008-06-04 05:56

I condone killing and millions of rotten corpses if the cause is just. The problem is everyone has a different view of what constitutes "just cause" based on culture and ethos. This is why the whole matter of pacifism is irrelevant. Human beings kill and torture one another, so you better not be the one on the receiving end. The Palestinians have to kill back or they will be exterminated. An honest observation suggests this much. Unfortunate MEN (not womyn) are so horrid.

Ehud Olmerts Wo... | Wed, 2008-06-04 06:00

There is NO JOOST cause for killing tens of millions in war.

Grim Reaper | Wed, 2008-06-04 07:06

I prefer to call you Emma to ehud.  I like the name.  I know nothing about DBS or Hufschmid.  Nothing.  I don't care ...... and I have never really understood the hoopla surrounding them.  The words in above post are not mine...they belong to az.  The comments following explain.

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I watched your Hitler video.  I enjoyed the very few English subtitles.  I wish I knew German.  I see that you do.  I would have liked to known what he was saying in all those speeches! 

Very passionate with firm resolve.  Hitler is so fed up as we should be, or our "leaders" should be for that matter.

Rhiannon | Wed, 2008-06-04 10:21

His name is Adolf Hitler and he is STILL worth my life, and ten million more where that came from.

Ehud Olmerts Wo... | Wed, 2008-06-04 10:28

Emma's good. Yes, it is terrific footage. If you want to know what he said you can just read Wagener's memoirs or Eckart's memoirs. Both are very close to his speeches. Or, you could just go to the Hitler speech archive here.

:)

Ehud Olmerts Wo... | Wed, 2008-06-04 10:36

Don't be sacrificing 10 million others for your insanity.

Grim Reaper | Wed, 2008-06-04 13:36

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