Shaykh Abdalqadir as-Sufi, the Gold-standard and a strange Fatwah
As Aisha Bewley explained in a speech,
"False Growth in the Credit-Based Economy"
written for a 1987 seminar on usury
published in Malaysia:
All paper currency was originally based on gold, it was more or less just a receipt that the gold of a certain value has been deposited at one branch of a money-institution and the same amount could be picked up at another institution in another town, however the recipient most often did not receive the full value, and the value loss was the usury, the interest paid.
Nowadays most currencies do not have any more gold-backing at all, but are fiat, backed hopefully by the economy which holds the currency.
The problem is, however according to Bewley, that in an interest-based money economy, there are now and were in the past, too many people who only want to make money out of money. They were and are not much interested in the production or actual trading of goods.
The most prosperous economies, says Bewley, are the ones based on the producing and the exchange of goods, not the ones based on credit exchange for the purpose of making money through money.
As I understand this paper, the source of the current monetary problems in the world is not the lack of gold backing of currencies, but the interest and debt based money of todays world economy.
Shaykh Dr. Abdalqadir as-Sufi, is an Islamic scholar who proposes an interest-free money policy according to Islamic law, but backed by gold.
Shaykh Dr. Abdalqadir as-Sufi was
born 1930 under the name Ian Dallas in Ayr, Scotland and is a Shaykh of Tarbiyah (Instruction). According to Wikipedia he was a playwright and actor before he accepted Islam in 1963 in Fes, Morocco.
He also is the scholar who issued a fatwah against Pope Benedict XVI
I do not know Islamic law well enough, but does he, as a British Scotsman, have the right to issue a fatwah, which is somehow relevant for the rest of the Islamic world?
And in this fatwah he mentioned especially the brief time when little Joseph Ratzinger had to join a Nazi youth organisation at the age of 14.
(According to Wikipedia, following his fourteenth birthday in 1941, Ratzinger was enrolled in the Hitler Youth — membership being legally required after December 1939[4] — but was an unenthusiastic member and refused to attend meetings[5]. His father was a bitter enemy of Nazism, believing it conflicted with the Catholic faith. In 1941, one of Ratzinger's cousins, a 14-year-old boy with Down syndrome, was killed by the Nazi regime in its campaign of eugenics.)
It seems rather strange for Shaykh Dr. Abdalqadir as-Sufi, a Muslim, to call Pope Benedict a Nazi:
In 1927 he was born into the enthusiastic ferment that gave birth to the Nazi movement and saw them empowered in the early ‘30s. At the age of 14 he joined the Hitler Youth. At that age and in that place, one may assume enthusiasm. After two years of good behaviour, at the age of 16, he was drafted into the German Army. He worked in an anti-aircraft brigade. In 1945 he was taken prisoner by US forces and sent to a prisoner-of-war camp. He was then 18.
The Jesuits say that if they can be given a child up to the age of six, they will have him for all his life. Following this Catholic doctrine, we may assume that the Nazis have the Pope for all his life.
He had been brought up under the Hakenkreuz (Swastika), and as a young man he straightened its edges and took up the Catholic Cross. Flushed with the vision of a masterful governing elite bent on world conquest, in a heady mixture of ruthless power and scientific application that was the Nazi Weltanschauung, the young Ratzinger entered the great historical tradition of a truly ‘Catholic’ Church bent on world control.
Abdalqadir as-Sufi assumes without a shred of evidence, little Joseph Ratzinger was an enthusiastic follower of Nazism, when not only from his religious background, but also family background (his murdered cousin) this seems highly unlikely.
Abdalqadir as-Sufi also writes, that Himmler was fascinated by the institution of the Church, while it can be proven that the Catholic church was severely persecuted by the Nazis.
The Church was slandered in show-trials. Many priests and lay people were incarcerated for opposition against the Nazi regime, many of them were killed.
And why should the German Nazi past be a problem for a Muslim in the first place? The Muslims I know, normally do not hold Germany´s past against us Germans.
Abdalqadir as-Sufi also called the Pope, an adulator, because Catholics, venerate Mary the mother of Christ. That´s an accusation I have heard from evangelical Protestants, never from Muslims, since Mary the mother of Jesus is also honered in Islam along with Fatimah the daughter of the prophet Mohammed, not to say the prophet Mohammed himself, whose name is always followed with a veneration.
And in the end Abdalqadir as-Sufi even accuses the Church and the Popes of all people for being responsible for the usury in the world, because the Church in the 19.century stopped the strong opposition towards an interest based economy, instead called it usury only, when the interests were considered too high to be justified.
Abdalqadir as-Sufi, however declared in his Fatwah:
An apology by the Pope now must be considered a frivolous irrelevance.
The Pope has already stated that he wants to meet with Muslim leaders. Such a meeting, in the light of this event, should not be allowed to take place.
But going back to the economic teachings of Abdalqadir as-Sufi,what I find also rather particular is his insistence, that an Islamic non-interest-based currency system must be backed by Silver and Gold-Dinar.
Think about it, we know for a fact, the Rothschild bank of London has enormous reserves of gold stored in their vaults. It´s the Rothschild bank which declares the falling or rising value of gold twice every single day.
Since the vaults of Fort Knox are said to be empty today, it´s not an unreasonable assumption that some or most of it found it´s way to the Rothschild vaults in Britain.
It might not matter for a Scotsman, but should I really believe, that the whole of the Islamic world would be happy to buy part, most or all of their backing currency directly from the Rothschilds?
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of ending interest taking on money.
One of their leading economist was a man called Gottfried Feder.
Feder studied financial politics and economics on his own; he developed a hostility towards wealthy bankers during World War I and wrote a "manifesto on breaking the shackles of interest" ("Brechung der Zinsknechtschaft") in 1919. This was soon followed by the founding of a "task force" dedicated to those goals that demanded a nationalisation of all banks and an abolishment of interest.
Abdalqadir as-Sufi, who claims to be an Islamic economist, advocating interest-free money, should have known that.
His mentioning of the Nazis in his accusation of Pope Benedict just does not make any sense.
Assuming that the facts you present about the Pope are true (I'll assume that they are because I know you), I suspect that the sheikh must have spoken from ignorance and an overzealous urge to ride the popular wave of anti-nazism when he condemned the Pope for his youthful affiliation with nazis.
Personally, I have heard so much conflicting evidence about the Nazis (including repeated references to their opposition to usury) that I cannot in good conscience condemn them out of hand as the abomination that ADL types and others would have me do.
As far as this particular Muslim scholar is concerned, you should never assume that any Muslim - other than those honestly elected by his people, represents anyone other than himself and the people who expressly support him.
Also, I agree with you regarding gold - as long as the world's gold reserves are monopolized by the same thieving bastards - it is no solution to jump from the frying pan into the flames.
I continue to stand steadfastly AGAINST any and all forms of USURY and IN SOLIDARITY with anyone and everyone who LIKEWISE OPPOSES IT - the color of your skin or the religious faith you profess is of no importance to me.
It is enough for me that you stand firmly on the platform of brotherhood for mankind and stand firmly against the exploitation of any of God's creatures.
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"Money" has no value - people do.
Well well actually as Shaykh Abdal Qadir is an Alim [ Islamic scholar ] i think he is well aware of the implications of his words etc etc
The relity is this!
The pope openly insulted the messenger of ALLAH and for that no matter how many times he wants to publicaly take his words back never the less he is nothing but a war mongering fool just like the rest of the islamophobes that exist today espeically in the western world.
If its not the cartoons its people like the pope and his banking vatigan that openly attacks Islam and the prophet Muhammad [saaw].
I posted that fatwa which came out when the pope attacked islam etc on the post about muslim scholars wanting to have dialogue with dwarf prada wearing pope, frankly these modernist scholars do not represent traditional islam or muslims as a whole and thats a simple fact, these same ulama make fatwas saying usury is halal and that islamic banks are permissible when in reality they are not.
You can draw you own conclutions about Shaykh AbdalQadir from sheikh google amd sheikh wikipedia but the sad reality is this none of you know shaykh abdal qadir and none of you have read his books and know to what extent on how much time and work he has commited to trying to educate people about the serious issues of Usury.
Shaykh Abdal Qadir now leads the largest muslim convert community world wide and his setting up the e dinar system and alternative routes to trade and to fight usury is unique and at the same time dangerous to those that want to hold on to the belief that paper money is money when it is not, paper money has no actual real intrinsic value.
Wake up and face reality that your money you possess is the property of the bank and not even the goverment!
"Iraq is a War.
Afghanistan is an Occupation.
Suicide-Bombing is a Terrorism.
Guantanamo is a Concentration Camp.
Detention without Charge is an Inquisition."
[ Shaykh abdal qadir as sufi ]
www.shaykhabdalqadir.com
and utter confusion due to the massive disinformation and sinister anti-human propaganda that permeates all races and religions. What I have noticed in recent decades is that people in general and leaders in particular do not take as much care about taking necessary precautions that wisdom requires before actually speaking out on any topic.
I remember when I was kid that my grand mother use to tell me often to think twice before I speak about anything which was very hard for me as I did not posses enough command over my ego and passion to behave in such manner. Anyway I was a kid and I could perhaps find some excuse for my hastiness in many things. But as I was growing older I often was confronted with consequences of impatience and speaking out my mind before I could calmly asses particular topic from every angle possible. I remember one of the first saying of our Prophet that I have read in a book "If you need to speak than speak good otherwise remain silent." Also in Qur'an it is Divine assesment "You will see that most of people's communications is filled with frivolous (worhtless) talk." How true is this, especially today.
I think mankind in general is quite impatient in everything and this is perhaps best seen in the way they communicate with each other. People cutting each others sentences to overpower and impose their egocentric perception of reality on the other party. I think this problem is common to all races and religions and its indicates one very alarming and detrimental trait of mankind. Everybody is pushing his own agenda. I think Christopher Marlowe said in this or other post that I fear to invite someone to my religion because I am not sure that I would actually invite him to my ego rather than to God I claim to believe in. I think that he grasped some very profound truth about the true state of human spiritual condition of our time.
Thus with such obvious illness of soul (egoism) we are at the threshold of the self destruction as the whole global civilization. I often thought about undeniable fact that there are decent human beings everywhere who prefer love over hate, honesty over deceitfulness, help over exploitation and yet lots of them were not Muslims. I tried to delve into the Divine wisdom in spreading these basic traits of humanity through every race and religion. I thought at first only Muslims should have these traits because they were truly the only ones that believed in Oneness of Divine Being and respected all prophets and accepted Divine revelation as their constitution.
However what I have discovered while studying Qur'an and other religious books is that God (Allah) is Creator and Sustainer of all of us and surely He had His reasons for tolerating existence of faiths and even atheistic ideologies for as long as we could remember our past history.
The Last Prophet of God to all mankind was Muhammad (salam be upon him) and he was often distressed witnessing obvious self-destructive paths that various nations were threading on. He was distressed not because they did not pay heed to him and what he was inviting them to accept and follow but because he saw the end result of their respective paths and beliefs. He was distressed because God has endowed him with immense love and care for humanity in particular and the rest of creation in general. He did not want anyone suffer consequences in the pursuit of evil and ignorance about themselves and God. Once he said to his companions (disciples) more or less like "I am like a man that stands in front of huge fire preventing moths to approach it for they do not know that by following that trajectory they will perish in flames and die."
We are the moths, and due to our incomplete understanding of the reality of our activities, we rush toward the glittery flames of this worldly attractions that our passions are enchanted with in the same way as the moths are enchanted by the light of fire. So people in general and leaders of countries and religions in particular must take extraordinary care when speaking on any subject that has serious international and interfaith relations. Wars are not started with weapons but with uncontrollable tongues. Prophetic saying "Tongue is sharper than the sword." is so true and thats why he in general advised people on silence and meditation in drawing ones attention to the presence of God.
"Let there be Light!"
are from official sources, and I have read enough of what he has written, to believe he would not lie about his past.
The persecution of the Church is well documented by historic sources from that time, both Church and newspapers and court documents of the Nazi time (not just eye witnesses)
The social wing of the Nazis joined up most likely because they rightly believed that the London based bankers, connected to the Rothschilds, instigated the war, brought in the Americans against Germany and so were instrumental in the German defeat and afterwards were instrumental in the oppressing reparation payments, which destroyed the German economy and currency.
Many of the members of the social wing of the Nazis were then killed by right-wing Nazis, who were backed by the German industrialists, in a single night. The others, like Feder, lost their influence on policies.
The Nazis were opposed to the interest based money system, but that´s not enough for me to like them.
They had a racial supremacist world view, not only regarding Jews, but also regarding all other ethnic groups which were not Germanic, the only other ones the Nazis respected were the Japanese, since they considered themselves as the superior race among the Asians.
The Nazis had an ethnic cleansing agenda not only for Jews. But later on after a victorious war, they were going to expand the German territory wide into eastern Europe and throw out the population, that lived there.
And of course the Nazis hated the Church and Christianity.
Their ideology was based on Nietzsche and his "Übermenschen" crap.
The Nazis were militarists, Social-Darwinists and considered Christian charitable thinking as weak, as hindering "the survival of the fittest" work of nature.
The Nazis had already restarted an old Germanic cult, because they believed the Viking religion fitted better to their militaristic agenda.
So there is no way I could ever defend the Nazis.
”Wars are not started with weapons but with uncontrollable tongues.”
Excellent point!
One might say that before we speak, we should first make sure that our statement will satisfy ALL THREE of the following conditions…
--Is it necessary?
--Is it true?
--Is it kind?
I don´t think you are very representative for Islamic people.
What´s the difference of, if the bank, belonging to a Rothschild connected banker owns my money, or if my money is backed by Rothschild owned gold.
The Pope did not insult God´s messenger, he cited a theological discussion held by two people in the middle ages, one a Muslim scholar and another one a Christian emperor.
And the discussion was about the logic or non-logic of forcing one´s faith on somebody else with violence.
As for the Prada shoes, maybe they are more comfortable than other shoes.
Fact is, that Pope Benedict deliberately cut down on ceremonial pomp surrounding his office, because he wanted to emphasize, that Christian leadership is about more humility.
And by the way, I find the headline of your comment extremely offensive.
And I believe you did it deliberately to scare away Catholic visitors from this site.
In the same way as you posted the Fatwah of your Sheik, as an answer to the post about the Islamic scholars reaching out in an effort to build bridges of solidarity and understanding to the leaders of Christian congregation.
I believe, that you Celt Islam, want to do everything you can to stop any reconciliation between Christians and Muslims.
I do not know, what agenda you have.
But I do know that your efforts, if they had even a chance of success, would not be helpful in ending the wars in Iraq or Afghanistan or freeing the prisoners of Guantanamo. And the only people that come to mind, who would profit from hostility between Christians and Muslims are neither.
But then, I don´t believe, that your way will succeed.
It looks to me like God Himself is helping us Christians and Muslims to join hands.
if we would all act according to these 3 principles, then the whole site here would be with very few posts.
Is it necessary?
Well that is a matter of opinion, and it has to do with free speech. You can´t know, what I find necessary and I can´t know what you find necessary.
Is it true?
That seems here among a few David Icke fans on this site a matter of faith, not necessarily backed by verifiable facts.
Is it kind?
Now smearing the current leader of my church I find, rather unkind.
If you meant, the condition of necessary, true and kind only for religious scholars, then I´d say, that the Scottish Sheik Abdalqadir as-Sufi seems to me far more unkind than the German Pope Benedict, since the Sheik can´t even accept an apology.
That´s unkind for me.
Salaams erlenda.
Please please for the sake of goodness please accuse me of things which i dont believe.
I respect all faiths so please dont say i dont.
As for the pope i have no personal respect for him thats my choice, doesnt mean i hate all of the catholic people .
The sad reality is that the pope did insult the prophet by islamic standards , this maybe be different to your own standards but according to the law of islam the pope did insult the prophet muhammad [saw] and also played a dangerous game.
It is not the muslims that should be asking for diologue it should be the pope himself.
I have no proplem with any faith espeically the catholic one as i also come from a catholic background i know full well the worship of dead saints and the mother of jesus peace be upon them both.
You cannot say that i dont represent the islamic faith , that is a blantent insult and really low of you to say such a thing, i would never say such a thing to you and your faith so please do not try tell me what i believe in and what i dont as you actually dont know me in person so your conjecture and insults are not doing you any justice here.
I respect all peoples faiths but no faith has the right to openly attack and slander another as did the pope and so many popes in the past which has led to many deaths.
I have no reason to make peace with christians and come to some unity and diologue as i am already at peace with christians thats the point i am making here.
"Iraq is a War.
Afghanistan is an Occupation.
Suicide-Bombing is a Terrorism.
Guantanamo is a Concentration Camp.
Detention without Charge is an Inquisition."
[ Shaykh abdal qadir as sufi ]
www.shaykhabdalqadir.com
you gotta be kidding me.
You just insulted the current leader of my church, calling him a freak and now you tell me, you respect people of all religions?
The Pope did apologize to the Islamic community a week after the offensive comments and he asked for a dialog between the Catholic church and the Islamic religion.
A few months later he went to Turkey and there he prayed in a mosque.
So he did his part, as far as I can see.
But if "salaam" means you apologize for offending me in my religious feelings, then I accept your apology.
Salaams Erlenda.
As i said before i dont have a problem with the catholic faith but that doesnt mean i have to respect the current Pope, in fact the last Pope i also had a serious problem with due to his remarks against the Prophet Muhammad [saw].
As i also said i come from an Catholic background so i know the ins and outs of the cathloic chruch with its worshiping dead saints etc, i dont believe in the catholic church period but never the less i respect their stance and would fight anyone that oppresses them.
All people have their own right to choose and refuse what they believe in thats their choice and my choice is that i dont accept the pope, even from the point of veiw of theology as Jesus [as] never established the catholic church .
As i said Erlenda the Pope did insult and he may of said he is sorry but the fact remains that he had to apologise for something which is my point, why did he have to apologise?? he shouldent of made such an outlandish statement in the first place.
lets brush this aside as there is more serious issues at stake than the current Pope.
With love and respect erlenda , ma salaama Abdullah
"Iraq is a War.
Afghanistan is an Occupation.
Suicide-Bombing is a Terrorism.
Guantanamo is a Concentration Camp.
Detention without Charge is an Inquisition."
[ Shaykh abdal qadir as sufi ]
www.shaykhabdalqadir.com
If you come from a Catholic background, then you should know, that we do not "worship" dead saints.
We say "ora pro nobis", pray for us, meaning we ask them to put in a good word for us.
Otherwise we see the "dead saints" as good examples and as part of our overall human family.
We believe in a community of the living and the dead, since after all we believe that there is a life beyond this one, and the people who have passed, their souls still exist some place.
And from a worldly point of view: history is always with us and surrounds us.
You probably were not long enough in the Catholic Christian religion to learn about these things.
But as far as I know, the Islamic religion has also martyrs and saints which are honored and in some places even venerated and petitioned.
Only the Wahhabis are opposed to the mentioning of martyrs and saints and see it as a possible idolatry, and their fanatical wing, the Salafis, call every Muslim who has a slightly different interpretation an infidel.
But if you are a purist in Islam and a conservativ, why do you not use the phrases, the conservatives use, when they talk about God and the Prophet Mohammed, like "Peace be upon him"?
I have noticed, that liberal Muslims do not use those phrases, when they talk to non-Muslims, but conservative Muslims see it as obligatory.
But even conservative Muslims sometimes use the English translation of Allah, which is God.
Muslims believe, that Christians, as people of the book, pray to the same God as they do.
When I was in Palestine, I went to Catholic church in Bethlehem and I distinctly remember, that we, the Catholics there, where praying in Arabic to Allah, at the moment in mass, when the priest in English would say: "Almighty, eternal God look not on our sins, but on the faith of your Church, grant us your peace and deliver us from all evil".
If you are a liberal Muslim, why then would you be so unforgiving of the Pope and that one single offensive quote he used once?
And I never heard of the former Pope John Paul II ever saying anything offensive about the Islamic religion or the Prophet Mohammed.
Salaam a Saleikum, Celt Islam.