He's only another politician

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Principled.

How can he claim to protect the Constitution yet vote to table a resolution to impeach those who violate it with impunity?

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Truth Seeker-- I think he needs to say this as he is trying to become president..I am sure once he becomes president he will force criminal investigations...I know MIKE GRAVEL WOULD!!!

And I will do my duty to send my letter to the office of Ron Paul my criticism and explain my view that Bush-Cheney administration has been proven to commit the breach of the Constitution.

As far as I know, his principles remain intact, but his not supporting the impeachment process is questionable.

Qrswave, I hope you do not consider your donation to Paul's campaign regrettable. I have not.

It is important for every conscious American citizen to hold ALL representatives of the government -- local, state and federal -- and candidates accountable on their words and change their minds by proper measure of pressure to at least be fair and hold the U.S. Constitution & human rights in preserving freedom and liberty in high regards.

Wether he did what is claimed against him or not,

He is still the most viable option on the table as of today.

"Hey you, Whitehouse. Ha ha,.. charade you are" Pigs/Animals/Pink Floyd

to impeach Clinton and his vote to table the measure to impeach Cheney. Cheney and Bush have done much more to deserve impeachment than Clinton did.

If Ron Paul voted to impeach Clinton because of the illegal war in the former Yugoslavia, then why not impeach B/C for this illegal war? Ron Paul is starting to stink to me. Just the fact that he is running as a Republican after all that party has done...
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"Stop judging by appearances, but judge justly."

Is the sheen starting wear off the Ron Paul doll?

I would like to think that there's some reasonable rationale for voting to table the resolution.

But, so far I can't think of one.

I welcome arguments in his favor.

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Go to the link below and see for yourself who's been donating to Paul.

From OPEN Secrets

LANEY, MICHAEL MR
SCOTTSDALE,AZ 85254

SELF/PROP TRADER

8/29/2007

$2,300

LARMER, CHAUNCEY
SEDONA,AZ 86341

RETIRED/RETIRED

6/16/2007

$2,300

LARMER, GLORIA MYERS MRS
SEDONA,AZ 86341

RETIRED/RETIRED

6/16/2007

$2,300

LEDBETTER, HUGH E
NORMAN,OK 73070

SELF/GEOLOGIST

2/24/2007

$2,300

LEDFORD, VERNON G MR
HOUSTON,TX 77019

ZEPHYR DEVELOPMENT CORP/PRESIDENT/C

6/26/2007

$2,300

LEHNER, THOMAS MR
WADSWORTH,OH 44281

BABCOCK & WILCOX CONSTRUCTION CO/SI

9/18/2007

$2,300

LEPARD, LAWRENCE W MR
WELLESLEY,MA 02482

SELF/INVESTMENT MGR

2/17/2007

$2,300

These are just a handful and only from the last quarter.

assuming the staff will pass to Dr Paul. I sent the letter using ronpaul2008.com domain.

Qrs, if you'd like to read the text, you know my email address. I will redact personal information about me.

I just want some answers about his vote and some reassurance that he won't flip flop on israel when faced with the full force of their political power.

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He'll just make it seem like he's helping them reach independence by cutting off all military aid & support. & all the rabid unthinking DBS types will continue to be enraged by him saying nice things about Israel meanwhile while he's the one actually making progress on trying to unclaw us from their grasp. I don't agree w/the Cheney thing though obviously but it's not like it was going anywhere anyway. Keep your sights on the big picture & be weary of those who tell you their multi-thousand listener podcasts will save us.

*Wary* not weary :P

Also I don't get the donator thing, what's wrong with the people listed it looks normal to me? Are the names Jewish or something?

"what's wrong with the people listed it looks normal to me? Are the names Jewish or something?"

It's important to look into whether these people are zionists, not whether they are Jewish.

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I was actually serious that I wasn't sure if the names were Jewish or not but you're right. Not all Jews are Zionists, or at least hardcore Zionists. Some are more concerned w/what's happening in America. I admit the Cheney thing is disturbing though, but maybe he they'd give him even more problems in the election if he voted for it or something, who knows. Kucinich's impeachment effort seems like a publicity stunt for his campaign anyway, it should have been proposed many years ago obviously.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."

"Avoid the base hypocrisy of condemning in one man what you pass over in silence when committed by another."

This applies to Ron Paul if his "Nay" vote on HR 333 bill while "Yea" to impeach President Clinton (however I think Clinton deserves it because he committed perjury during testimony).

I will press hard on Ron Paul. As stated before, it is my patriotic duty to get tough on all politicians, candidates and others that I merely support with polite but blunt criticism.

..Ron protects the BUSH REGIME!

..Ron denies the CRIME OF 9/11!

..Ron doesn't touch on the ZIONITE TRAITOR ISSUES..

..Ron wants to return to the GOLD STANDARD!

..Ron votes to impeach kline-son, but not dush!?

..At least he didn't vote for WAR and FASCISM!

..and Dave84, what makes you think that people who've listened to DBS are unthinking? What makes you think that i would believe you, some podcast geeks, or some slimy pollo-tickian would save us?

..Nepos, your assessment is correct: HYPOCRISY, or my fave: KHUTSPAH!

If you look at those totals, you'll see that Dr.Paul actually voted with the majority of the Democrats on that motion. Note the company he is in in. Kucinich voted against it, but so did some of the biggest rubber stamps Bush bootlickers in the House.

I'm going to dig into it deeper, even though this was a poorly supported publicity stunt by Kucinich.

Don't get me wrong - I think Cheney and krewe should be hung up Cheuchesku style for what they did to the Iraqi and American people. Maybe ordering a formal investigation is a better way to build a good case? I hate to be in the position of defending anything this Congress does - they should all be ran out on a rail.

Sometimes understanding what is actually being voted on is difficult, as they often use tricks to confuse the issue.

H res 333 vs H res 799 - one has some cosponsors and the latter has none - both introduced by Kucinich - this vote seems to be on H res 799 motion to table and motion to refer.

I'm lost - no wonder nothing gets done up there.

In fact, my initial title read: "Why did Ron Paul vote against Impeachment?" until I realized that I wasn't sure that he had.

I haven't read a comment or article that clarifies it.

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That Vote

Posted by Lew Rockwell at November 8, 2007 02:28 PM

Why, Michael Nelson wants to know, did Ron Paul vote to table the Kucinich motion?

Says a friend in the know: "Because it is improper for the House to consider something as important as impeachment without having had hearings and without a report from a committee or an independent counsel. It was appropriately done this way with Nixon and Clinton. If you look at the vote, you will notice the majority of war-mongering Republicans voted with Kuncinich as a cheap stunt to embarrass the Democrats and the anti-war movement by rushing an impeachment resolution to a vote with only an hour's debate."

I don't understand that explanation. The fact is, Ron Paul voted to table (kill) the impeachment vote on the House floor. It happened two days ago, but there's nothing about it on Ron Paul’s web site. People need an explanation.

Right after the Kucinich proposal to impeach Cheney was read on the House floor, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (ZIONIST JEW) called for the House to kill the bill. "Impeachment is not on our agenda. We have some major priorities. We need to focus on those," Hoyer said.

Does Ron Paul agree with him?

Strangely, his opponents have not yet jumped on this.

If the debate to impeach Cheney ever went to the house floor, Americans would be glued to their TV sets, and begin to think they have power after all. Obviously that can’t be allowed.

Does Ron Paul agree? Until I get an explanation, I must assume he does.

..question is: did he purposely tank himself?

Abdul AlhaZred sure looks familiar! Welcome back.

Practically speaking, our meddling in the Middle East has only intensified strife and conflict. American tax dollars have militarized the entire region. We give Israel about $3 billion each year, but we also give Egypt $2 billion. Most other Middle East countries get money too, some of which ends up in the hands of Palestinian terrorists. Both sides have far more military weapons as a result. Talk about adding fuel to the fire! Our foolish and unconstitutional foreign aid has produced more violence, not less.

Congress and each successive administration pledge their political, financial, and military support for Israel. Yet while we call ourselves a strong ally of the Israeli people, we send billions in foreign aid every year to some Muslim states that many Israelis regard as enemies. From the Israeli point of view, many of the same Islamic nations we fund with our tax dollars want to destroy the Jewish state. Many average Israelis and American Jews see America as hypocritically hedging its bets.

House.gov.paul

These quotes are taken directly from Paul's House of Represetnatives web page.

It's interesting that he calls the Palestinians, who are defending what's left of ther homeland from an occupation army, terrorists, yet has nothing to say about Israeli terrorism.

Abdul the "mad Arab" still hasn't confirmed his identity as AZ/thx1138, but his slick use of imagery, in-depth knowledge of all things zionism, titling comments with "Comment", and use of "~~~~~~" gives him away. I'm sure AA (or AZ) isn't deliberately hiding, but interestingly, he's decided to start capitalising the word "zionism", which he wasn't doing before.

Come out into the light, AZ, before someone accuses you of being a zio-mole! :P

Because the U.S., Britain & Israel covertly fund & support the most radical Muslim groups such as Al-Qaeda & Hamas & allow them & sometimes help them commit terrorist attacks & then using that as a justification for perpetual war/occupation. Problem-reaction-solution.

Guests for the Sunday TV News Shows:

Face the Nation - CBS

Former Gov. Mike Huckabee, R-Ark.
Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas.

Here

Bob Schieffer is the host of this show. His email address is:

bob.schieffer@cbsnews.com, ftn@cbsnews.com

If you want Ron Paul to explain his vote on Kucinich's resolution to impeach Cheney write to Bob Schieffer and ask him to ask Ron Paul why Paul voted the way he did. I wrote a brief letter to ftn and Schieffer myself.

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Dear Mr Schieffer and FTN Staff,

During his guest appearance on Sunday 11 November please ask Ron Paul to explain his vote to table the impeachment resolution introduced by Dennis Kucinich against Vice President Cheney.

Thank You.

Sincerely,

Jonny Verdorben

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Thanks, for the tip Jonny!

Will do - I hope he answers the question.

I'm sure a lot of people would like to know.

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You're quite welcome of course.

The media are desperately looking for an issue to generate negative publicity toward Ron Paul. Since they're not real bright or insightful themselves they need the audience to provide intelligent questions for them. If Schieffer & Co. get a few emails on that issue they will likely make it a point to ask Dr Paul about it.

Dennis Kucinich Interview, Democracy Now (audio and transcript)

Suddenly, Impeachment Hearings Are Looking Like a Strong Possibility

To be fair some probably does aid Palestinian terrorists
Because the U.S., Britain & Israel covertly fund & support the most radical Muslim groups such as Al-Qaeda & Hamas & allow them & sometimes help them commit terrorist attacks & then using that as a justification for perpetual war/occupation. Problem-reaction-solution.

Dave84 | Fri, 2007-11-09 20:39

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Help me understand.....

Just exactly what do you mean? What is a radical 'muslim' group? The kreestian zionists are never considered terrorists, why is that I wonder? Of course in most publications these falwell-robertson type groups are called the 'christian right'.

These extremely powerful groups of people send millions/billions over time to israel, it's illegal squatters, thereby feeding the horror they support.

Is there no such thing as a christian terrorist or a jewish terrorist?

NO? YES?

Al Qaeada = Hamas?

Do ya think?

Hamas has good intentions, not well organized, continually stabbed in the back by its own people due to infiltration of israeli mossad agents....

Al Qaeda?

WHat the hell is that?

And what does Islam and Muslims have to do with terrorism?

Excuse my while I take my laptop and FLUSH IT DOWN THE AL AQEADA!

..too bad the TV doesn't fit in the proverbial sh*t hole too!
..you want to see terrorists? turn on the terror-vision!

black is white

Grim Reaper....

Seeing that israel is infatuated with toilets - shades of al qaeda - I deduce that israel is just one big toilet....

There can never be enough tissue...

I like this picture very much....I posted it elsewhere.

And I like your toilet picture. Quite funny. Fetching blue and white color. Perhaps a soft shadowy star of David to serve as an imprint or backdrop for the toilet.

Excuse my rambling creativity....

..hehe another keeper, had i drawn the top one, the toilet would be directly on top of the TV, with a mirror on the wall for the entertainment to be put back to front; thus true!

And now for something really delightful........

Charlie loved and worshipped Jesus
And then one day Charlie became Jesus
So he told the courtroom...
So he told his followers...

I really do get tired of the hypocrisy. This blatant, intense hypocrisy sends me reeling...

So would you agree that Charlie is a christian terrorist?

TERROR IN THE NAME OF JESUS

Does anyone need reminding that this crime scene is just fragment of a a miniscule of a droplet in the USA BUCKET!

Gee......so much for Homeland Security. Golly, chertoff, we could have used you back then.

Charlie, to my knowledge, has never been considered to be called a christian terrorist in the newspapers and books - loads of stuff written about him ya know....

Nor has he been considered to be called a christian radical.

..i think even shitler blasphemed Christ, while he murdered the innocent. It's so much easier just to say "I'm following orders", or "God made me do it", but obviously it was the devil wizard's plan.

The email I received from VoteToImpeach.org said this was just what they wanted because it's in review now.

Now is the time to go to VoteToImpeach.org and do your part to make this happen.

You guys really suck for giving people the illusion this has been defeated. It's not. It's under review and now is the time for Americans to take action.

..i don't recall making you think anything sucka!
..but thanks for the link anyway!

Yes he did!
I saw a vid where he explained it all.
RP went on the record that day and said he voted with great reluctance that day because,
that motion had to come from the house, not the senate!
almost a direct qoet.
You will recall he follows the cons. to the letter!
I hope this helped!