Paul is an ESTABLISHMENT puppet!
WTF, how are you gonna rationalize this?
^is he just "pandering" to the "theocratic crowd" for Iowa?
what about those principles?
TERRORIST nations?
cmon, how fucking THICK do you have to be????
he's NOT talkin about ISRAEL!!
what other terrorist nations huh?
IRAN?
IRAQ?
AFGHANISTAN?
PAKISTAN?
how is that NOT ZIONIST establishment BULLSHIT??
dude's a conspiracy theorist, believer in the official fairy tale...
this is the last mahfuckin straw for me, the rest of ya'll can waste your time on this because of your HUGE EMOTIONAL INVESTMENT diggin your heads in the sand
meanwhile the criminals will get a DEEPER hold on this country and kill innocent civilians in "TERRORIST nations"
.. you do great work, and i'm with you 100%. RP IS a fraud and a shill, imo-- only I KNOW he knows precisely who's behind it all, so to believe him ignorant is a mistake, &c. Good eye on your foregoing blog as well-- only I totally question E.H.'s credibility or sanity as well. I hope that people will listen to the one person of the 3 whose veracity I've never questioned: DBS, at www.iamthewitness.com .
I'm so sick of ANYONE who recommends Ron Paul and thinks that Ron Paul is somehow "outside" the establishment. What is wrong with you people???!!! It is impossible to get a foot into this/our political system without being a "pawn" in their (Zionist world empire) game. It takes MILLIONS to get in the game. You don't get MILLIONS unless you have sold out, or you are blackmailed or bribed.
What is wrong with you people??? We need to dismantle the entire system and start over. How pathetic are we as a human species to think that Ron Paul is "outside" the system??? Please....
If ever there is a "wild west" atmosphere in this country again, my hatred and retribution will be directed to those so called "patriots" who are trying to sell us on Ron Paul and the "illuminati" or some other nefarious entitiy besides criminal Judaism. I just listened to an interview on redicecreations and this guy (kent) said our enemy is Communism and the Federal Reserve. Not ONCE did he mention criminal Judaism, or the thousands of Jews such as Chertoff or Silverstein or Lowy or Bronfman etc., etc. Wake up people!!!! If given the chance, if I ever meet this "Kent" guy, he better duck.......because a fist will be flying! I'm sick of anyone who continues to evade the obvious. And the obvious is -- Criminal Judaism is our problem. Not the Illuminati...not Communism...not the Federal Reserve..........but criminal Judaism/Zionism. That is our enemy. Wake up people.
to label Khanverse a troll.
If used broadly enough, the term "troll" could take in anybody you disagree with.
Is Khanverse's primary goal to disrupt or derail WUFYS? I don't think so. The RP ad contained a substantively disagreeable statement that he would stop issuing student visas to "terrorist nations". That is a vague term that serves to incite fear of Muslim people. This type of rhetoric is objectionable and must stop. I think Khanverse's point is well taken.
K also speaks of an "emotional investment" that people seem to make in these political candidates. I believe this sort of investment makes people less capable of objectivity. In the vernacular, the get "married" to an idea, or in this case, a candidate.
If you disagree with Khanverse, then the better way might be to debate the facts presented. Merely labeling someone a troll is ad hominem.
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"Stop judging by appearances, but judge justly."
anyone who still evangelizes for Ron Paul after watching this is mentally ill.
I guarantee there are way more disturbing surprises awaiting his followers as the weeks move on and he sheds his skins and reveals truer colors.
Callin me a troll is a very cute diversion that won't work with intelligent folk.
This dude is shitting on his educated '9/11 truth, anti-neocon' base. He's blaming mexicans and muslims for all our problems with the money the evangelist worshippers have raised for him, when we know zionists are the problem.
Meanwhile Zionist like Beck say they wanna make out with him and stooges like Tucker Carlson ENDORSE HIM.
So ultra pathetic.
Meanwhile the AIPAC spy trial won't happen and the monsters will tighten their grip while mental midgets get angry with us for telling the facts as they are.
No one is more hopelessly enslaved than the one who falsely believes he is free.
... or something to that effect ...
-Someone who was smarter than Paul's base
http://www.myspace.com/khanverse
Hello, everyone - I'm back - at least for tonight.
Forgive my absence - these are hard times for me. But, you guys are doing a great job without me.
I think you're right - something is definitely up with Ron Paul.
How deep this goes and who made this ad for Ron Paul are questions that need answers.
But, something tells me that Ron Paul is not the type of person to personally sponsor ads that include messages he does not personally endorse.
The last thing America needs is a popularly elected president that screws us over even worse than the one who was not.
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"Money" has no value - people do.
I was never sure about Ron Paul because things are never as they seem.
"i got this_tan in Hades,
check out my new seventh_head!"
"the gold_standard is a surefire way to impoverish, subjugate and force fiat_beast_kredit_system upon_us!!"
"..and the rivers of blood poured down the abyss onto rivers of molten gold.."
Nobodaddy, week after week I sit here and watch you flip-flop on the same issues time and time again. You're continuously changing your mind. You say up there,
but just the other day you said Paul has your support:
Then in this thread you pretty much say that Eric Hufschmid has no credibility, and that he's nuts:
when just a few days ago you published one of his articles here and called him an "ace" and a "champion of truth":
And you do this all the time, non-stop.
Ron Paul's ad is disappointing. I don't agree at all with his no-visas-for-students-from-"terrorist nations" bullshit. Is he talking about art students? Because last time I checked, they were the only 'students' that pose a threat to US national security, and they were Israeli.
There are other things I don't agree with, with regard to Ron Paul's policies. A return to the gold standard, abolition of government subsidies, and his staunch pro-life position are amongst them. I'm certainly not 'emotionally invested' in a Ron Paul presidency - I'm not even American. But I would like to see someone in power that isn't hell bent on bombing Iran.
Dennis Kucinich was always the better-looking candidate to me, but people aren't interested, which is a damned shame.
yeah, coz-- you're actually right: i sometimes have a difficult time sussing all out.
instead of saying RP has my condign support, i should have said he has my conditional support. i thought at the time that i was on to something: i.e., his very real and putative relationship with the old Phoenix Journals, circa 1990s. So, I now believe that I was right the first time-- about him AND you. But, then again, you never fooled me.
Hufschmid's been more problematic. Not so much any more. He's just like jou.
Allow me to state that in a different manner-- if you want to continue fekking with me, let's do it..
I am, of course, painfully aware of my own weaknesses (as yet) when it comes to sorting all this bs out, and in expressing what I know or feel.
So, I've wavered-- for a brief moment I entertained the notion that RP was merely acting stupid to give 'm a realistic shot at getting in (or some such other fatuous notion)-- and held out hope that EH was actually genuine, and might correct his pinhead ways.
You, on the other hand, have remained onsistent in your support of RP, your denunciation of TFC, and your propensity for being a punk-- I'll say that much for you-- and against you. Next.
.. i'll put it this way: i'm human, ergo errable-- you're a fraud and a sawed-off, big-mouth fruitcake. so, personally i have no use for you.. RP either-- that's final.
As an Australian citizen, all I can do is encourage people to vote for Ron Paul - I don't get a vote. What I don't want, as an Australian, is an American attack on Iran. To me, that's what a Paul presidency means - no war with Iran, notwithstanding an Israeli attack. By proliferating bullshit like 'Ron Paul is a shill', you're indirectly endorsing a Hillary presidency. Likewise, if you encourage people not to vote at all by declaring the whole process a farce, you're tacitly supporting a Hillary presidency. Hillary is what America has coming. People need to decide who will be better for America - Hillary or Paul? Is it reasonable to decide to have no preference at all, simply because neither has promised to expose 9/11, etc?
I know Obama just won the primaries, but I don't care. Hillary will be prez. Written is the scripture and carved is the stone.
By the way Nobodaddy, conspicuously absent in my writings is any mention of Ron Paul or TFC. Paul is a secondary issue to me, and TFC is a non-issue.
policy himself. Yeah that's pretty absurd & definately not something I would defend. I'm still gonna vote for him b/c he's against the war & the war on drugs which is all major as opposed to this but I'm not as stoked about him as I used to be.
You are free to support the leader in the Republican race.
If you're against RP, then are you going to back/vote for Hillary or GHOULiani, because after Super Tuesday, that will be the ones left standing.
Forget the Iowa vote, it's only the first step in the primary season.
Or maybe you'll throw your support behind New York Mayor Bloomberg, who is rumored to be starting up a run at the presidency as an Independent.
He's worth around 12 BILLION dollars and if he only spends 10% of his worth, that will give him a campaign chest of around ONE BILLION DOLLARS.
That is more money than the Dems and Repubs together plan to spend.
Hillary has raised close to 100 million dollars, with a large part of that coming from New York City and Beverly Hills, California.
GHOULiani has raised close to 50 Million dollars, with most of the donations coming from New York City.
Paul has raised nearly 9 Million dollars, with most of his money coming from his home state of Texas.
All figures were from the last campaign report of September 30.
All of this and more available online at:
Open Secrets.org
Those of you who find Ron Paul despicable will find good company in the pages of Haaratz. They too find him lower than a snake's ass - unworthy to even be rated, along with Gravel and Kucinich.
Political opinions are fine, but an absurd on it's face statement like "Ron Paul is an establishment puppet" really deserves no response.
Do I think you are a zionist because you share the same opinion of Dr. Paul as they do?
No, not necessarily.
You may just be a moron.
I like this article re: Alexander (Levine) Hamilton:
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=99
I wonder what Ron Paul's actual name is/was.
RP is in the gold business-- and has been for many decades.
By 'many' I should have simply cited the two I know of.
In fact, 'pandering to the public' strikes me as an excellent choice of words, &c.
balkanized, don't even ask me about bantustan.
apaul (R.of Texas/confederate states)
vs.
shilliary (Union states/demonarchy)
(vp. barracks_abombo)
refereeing this match shill be:
The Governegger (R.of California)
..all courtesy of our favourite planetary banksters!!
Here is Ha'aretz's explanation for its omission of Ron Paul from the "Israel Factor" rankings which Claymoremind posted:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/rosnerBlog.jhtml?itemNo=921350&contra...
Notice that the two currently highest rated candidates also happen to be our "national frontrunners". And Bloomberg, as of yet not even a candidate, receives more positive coverage here and in Israel.
You reckon Rosner & his panelists are all closet Ron Paul supporters? They're trying to ensure his nomination through the crafty use of reverse psychology and other subversive techniques? ;)
...Then bre'r Paul said
"I don't care what you do with me, Brer FOXNEWS, says he, "Just so you don't fling me in that anti-zionist briar patch. Roast me, Brer FOXNEWS, says he, "But don't fling me in that briar patch."
Nokay, after this comment i'm making a clean break and a fresh start-- 1) apologies to EH, who is entitled to his views (most of which I happen to agree with and appreciate); 2) i'm no authority on RP, but the guy still smells bad to me (tho' not nearly so bad as the other candidates, w/ possibly one or two exceptions); 3) thanks, actually, for the civil (seeming) reply and apt criticism coz-- only, next time, if you'll do me the favor of not placing my mangled words in quotes (that's a bit severe), I would be greatly beholden to you. On second thought, I'll attempt to better train my words and thoughts. Vale.
..who's the most in_bred of them all?
to be fair, i'll post a good picture haha
i will fulfill the prophecy!
i am the one!
his mother's keeper?
Did you just change your mind again, three times? ;)
Just playing man, cheers.
...even the beautiful Diana failed to quite wipe the mongurk feature off the face of the younger royal heinie, I mean, highness.
[Is there any hope these two turn into Menendez brothers?!]
WOW.
Some insane amounts of idiocy here.
First of all, you folks need to check that cute self-importance at link before you click. Your opinions don’t matter, you are no more than bits that float down the memory hole in a vast universe of interconnectedness. No one cares about your flip-flopping or how you feel about individuals.
Let’s stick with “facts.”
I don’t SUPPORT anyone. I like Gravel because he’s the only one to do this but why waste my time?
As far as this stuff goes, I PREFER OBAMA to Paul.
I know you’re gonna hit me with those adorable mantras about CFR and AIPAC speeches but if you’re willing to overlook Paul’s problems:
‘blame the Muslims and Mexicans’ Zionist propaganda his economic policy, encouraged and endorsed by the CFR in bringing gold back to run a global system and collapse the fed, which CJB warns us endlessly about because ZIONISTS own almost ALL THE GOLD, his ‘arab hijacker’ conspiracy theory belief of 9/11 , HIS SUBSEQUENT VOTE TO GO TO WAR WITH NO FUCKING EVIDENCE , his opposition to impeaching Cheney and Bush , him ADMITTING that he’s running on the same platform as Bush did (wow, politicians lie? Imagine that! Texas republican YOU IDIOTS), him CO-authoring a book on giving ZIONIST bankers more CONTROL by getting back TO GOLD which THEY OWN with a ZIONIST MONSTER involved in Iran/contra , (you don’t just co-author with anyone), being ENDORSED by ultra-right wing STOOGE Fucker Carlson being promoted by Zionist Beck , Zionist King , Zionist Blitzer , and Ultra-rabid Zionist MONSTER Pat Robertson
(^You think if he was a threat to them they would EVER pass an opportunity to slime him???
You think they would EVER promote him if he was against them?
ARE THEY IDIOTS? Do they control the globe by accident?
Are they gonna let a Fossil waltz in and wave his magic wand, making them disappear?)
SO, If you can overlook ALL of Paul’s problems,
THEN I can overlook barack’s weed smoking, CFR membership, AIPAC pandering, and MIDDLE NAME.
He’s way more energetic, has a MUCH better shot at winning, UNITES PEOPLE, doesn’t whine about Mexicans and terrorists in his campaign ads, is a million times more charismatic and better speaker than Paul, is way more intelligent, and actually seems more honest to me than Paul.
Hey, he was anti Iraq war, and he can speak sweet nothings to the monsters.
And just like ya’ll believe Ron is gonna flip the script and tell the whole truth about 9/11, (despite looking genuinely shocked when Beck suggested his evangelist followers thought he might) and all the other stuff you think he really cares about UPON ELECTION, I believe OBAMA will do the same thing.
There, beat that.
Before you mental midgets get it twisted as you’re apt to do, I STILL DON’T SUPPORT HIM, nor anyone for that matter. I like Gravel, but why waste my time?
I don’t choose between terd burgers and shit sandwiches.
Paul is no panacea. Def not Superman, or even Huey Long or Hugo Chavez for that matter.
But of course I’m not emotionally invested in this latest controlled and fraudulent election unlike most of ya’ll.
Maybe because I’ve actually paid attention to the last 100 years of American history.
-ME
http://www.myspace.com/khanverse
"First of all, you folks need to check that cute self-importance at link before you click. Your opinions don’t matter, you are no more than bits that float down the memory hole in a vast universe of interconnectedness. No one cares about your flip-flopping or how you feel about individuals."
Don't be so hard on yourself nimwit.
He's back and well rested.
My loyalty in this whole election nonsense is with BERT.
And, kanverse, don't you DARE say anything nasty 'bout my sweet Bert!
Personal attacks against Khanverse are way out of line.
He makes some very valid points.
I am surprised that you guys aren't making any effort to assuage his fears (which for the most part are legitimate) instead of attacking his character (which judging by his previous work is high grade).
Come on people, we can agree to disagree without engaging in ad hominem attacks and posting obscene pictures.
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"Money" has no value - people do.
Khanverse's points are valid, but they're nothing new. I still favor Paul over Hillary, Guiliani, Huckabee or Obama. The dude is honest, at least.
And I don't care how valid his points are if he delivers them with attitude like that - 'idiots', 'mental midgets' etc. And this is not the only site he's campaigning on. For someone that's not 'emotionally invested', he's pretty passionate about this Ron Paul thing.
Let me see if I understand correctly…
Khanverse writes a foul and insulting post, flinging vile names at everyone at WUFYS, and you expect everyone to support such filth.
Khanverse condemns everyone here as “mental midgets.” He writes, “Your opinions don’t matter, you are no more than bits that float down the memory hole in a vast universe of interconnectedness.”
And you expect everyone to “assuage his fears.”
Khanverse makes personal attacks –“ You folks need to check that cute self-importance at link before you click” – and when people don’t like it, you say his targets are “way over the top.”
Khanverse continually engages in ad hominem attacks, yet you again blame his targets, writing, “We can agree to disagree without engaging in ad hominem attacks and posting obscene pictures.”
Khanverse makes wild assumptions, e.g., “I’m not emotionally invested in this latest controlled and fraudulent election unlike most of ya’ll.” And you expect everyone to cater to his erratic tantrums.
Is that about the size of it?
I just want to be clear about this.
how right, khanverse may be...
calling people idiots is way over the top [oh and very stupid, I may add, and he undermines himself].
THIS..."First of all, you folks need to check that cute self-importance at link before you click. Your opinions don’t matter, you are no more than bits that float down the memory hole in a vast universe of interconnectedness. No one cares about your flip-flopping or how you feel about individuals".....as cute - and oh so sexy - as this stalwart retort may be....is way over the top.
and THIS....."Before you mental midgets get it twisted as you’re apt to do"...way, WAY over the top.
oh but hey....
that's just me.
I am experiencing deja vu here......
I see you going "somewhere" and I don't like it....
Think before you leap!
;)
What "validity" is being referred to? All I saw was a bunch of disjointed insults. I admit I ignored them (because to me such drivel is less meaningful than the buzzing of flies) but if you can make head or tale out of the empty filth above, I wish you would decipher it for me.
Then again...forget it.
Such childish rantings are not worth another moment's thought.
Sorry the links didn't work before, they should now...
I posted this as a comment in the other thread I started but none of the links would work in there so I'm posting this here. I don't want to to occupy your time with my UTTERLY MEANINGLESS opinions on Paul but no one else was saying it so I WILL:
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WOW.
Some insane amounts of idiocy here.
First of all, you folks need to check that cute self-importance at link before you click. Your opinions don’t matter, you are no more than bits that float down the memory hole in a vast universe of interconnectedness. No one cares about your flip-flopping or how you feel about individuals.
Let’s stick with “facts.”
I don’t SUPPORT anyone. I like Gravel because he’s the only one to do this but why waste my time?
As far as this stuff goes, I PREFER OBAMA to Paul.
I know you’re gonna hit me with those adorable mantras about CFR and AIPAC speeches but if you’re willing to overlook Paul’s problems:
‘blame the Muslims and Mexicans’ Zionist propaganda his economic policy, encouraged and endorsed by the CFR in bringing gold back to run a global system and collapse the fed, which CJB warns us endlessly about because ZIONISTS own almost ALL THE GOLD, his ‘arab hijacker’ conspiracy theory belief of 9/11 , HIS SUBSEQUENT VOTE TO GO TO WAR WITH NO FUCKING EVIDENCE , his opposition to impeaching Cheney and Bush , him ADMITTING that he’s running on the same platform as Bush did (wow, politicians lie? Imagine that! Texas republican YOU IDIOTS), him CO-authoring a book on giving ZIONIST bankers more CONTROL by getting back TO GOLD which THEY OWN with a ZIONIST MONSTER involved in Iran/contra , (you don’t just co-author with anyone), being ENDORSED by ultra-right wing STOOGE Fucker Carlson being promoted by Zionist Beck , Zionist King , Zionist Blitzer , and Ultra-rabid Zionist MONSTER Pat Robertson
(^You think if he was a threat to them they would EVER pass an opportunity to slime him???
You think they would EVER promote him if he was against them?
ARE THEY IDIOTS? Do they control the globe by accident?
Are they gonna let a Fossil waltz in and wave his magic wand, making them disappear?)
SO, If you can overlook ALL of Paul’s problems,
THEN I can overlook barack’s weed smoking, CFR membership, AIPAC pandering, and MIDDLE NAME.
He’s way more energetic, has a MUCH better shot at winning, UNITES PEOPLE, doesn’t whine about Mexicans and terrorists in his campaign ads, is a million times more charismatic and better speaker than Paul, is way more intelligent, and actually seems more honest to me than Paul.
Hey, he was anti Iraq war, and he can speak sweet nothings to the monsters.
And just like ya’ll believe Ron is gonna flip the script and tell the whole truth about 9/11, (despite looking genuinely shocked when Beck suggested his evangelist followers thought he might) and all the other stuff you think he really cares about UPON ELECTION, I believe OBAMA will do the same thing.
There, beat that.
Before you mental midgets get it twisted as you’re apt to do, I STILL DON’T SUPPORT HIM, nor anyone for that matter. I like Gravel, but why waste my time?
I don’t choose between terd burgers and shit sandwiches.
Paul is no panacea. Def not Superman, or even Huey Long or Hugo Chavez for that matter.
But of course I’m not emotionally invested in this latest controlled and fraudulent election unlike most of ya’ll.
Maybe because I’ve actually paid attention to the last 100 years of American history.
-ME
http://www.myspace.com/khanverse
I welcome all attacks on ME, that just proves that you don't wanna address what I'm saying.
I had to use terms like idiots and mental midgets for SOME of you, because you're ignoring all these problems with your SuperHero for your own reasons which are completely unknown to me... I can only speculate...
But I'm posting this as a new thread so you can attack me all over again, this time hopefully with some intellectual integrity and fortitude...
peace
http://www.myspace.com/khanverse
By jove, Watson! er, I mean claymore....
You were right from the very start.
AZ - "What "validity" is being referred to? All I saw was a bunch of disjointed insults. I admit I ignored them (because to me such drivel is less meaningful than the buzzing of flies) but if you can make head or tale out of the empty filth above, I wish you would decipher it for me. Then again...forget it. Such childish rantings are not worth another moment's thought."
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Listen up, AZ!
I SHALL decipher it all for you!
You will have to allow me, this brilliant excuse: I had to go to work this morning, and my comment to you was done in haste.
And I don't think you understood the meaning of my short comment - but never mind that - as my "look before you leap" was a bit lame.
Ahem! So here goes!
What "validity" is being referred to?
I should have put quotation marks around the word valid, as I didn't mean to say that anything kanvers said was valid. Oh no. The word "pallid" comes to mind.
A bunch of disjointed insults, you say? Very well put, AZ. I agree.
Can I make head or tail out of the empty filth? No. I won't even begin to try.
Therefore... I will NOT decipher, and so no need to "forget it", as you suggest...there is nothing to forget.
Agreed! Such childish rantings are not worth another moment's thought.
And now this is my last comment on this post.
Hey, hey-- whatever my initial reaction was to your trenchant admonition, I took and take it all in good sort. In truth, I even had something I considered constructive to interject, for once, bright and early this morning-- but a day of drudgery has dulled my already over-dull senses, so I won't attempt either to refine them or articulate them. No harm, no foul-- as far as i'm concerned (who am/ was most worthy of the pejorative epithets). And, keep up the good work, as they say (and stay away from socialists), &c.