The real purpose; "..quick switch those plastic chips for gold ones before they notice precious!!"

Found it, haha!
"..but I'm gonna be JUDiCiOUS as to how to use the military!!!" [WiDE GRiN]

This is probably the best post I have ever read on this forum. Thank you Kula Kundalini!

It just boggles my mind when I read people on this forum actually believing that there is "hope" in American Politics at the Presidential level. Or for any level for that matter except perhaps maybe the small community precincts etc.

Please people..............really think hard and use your brain. Think about how hard it would be for someone legitimate to be successful in politics. Please......think logically here.

Kundalini said it best,

"The purpose of Ron Paul is to provide false hope to the disaffected anti-establishment masses."

This is exactly what is happening. Ron Paul has motivated tens of thousands of people who were suspicious of things like 9-11, and the war in Iraq etc., etc., and has shifted their motivation and attention onto having 'hope' that someone good and decent could get into the white house, rather than consider 'protest' and 'revolution'.

It is even more sad to think about those here at Wakeupfromyourslumber. WUFYS represents a small number of the population who actually have 'thought' outside the box and know without a doubt that a conspiracy exists, and to think that there are people on this forum who have hope, or who are holding out hope for someone like Ron Paul.

What does that say about our chances of ever throwing off this oppression???

Not good.

The purpose of Ron Paul was successful even at this level of intelligence!!!

I'd say our chances as a people ever being completely free is piss poor.

We need more people with the intelligence of Kundalini if 'change' is ever to take place.

If anyone believes that RBN might actually be legitimate because they are now finally speaking about Zionism.......all you have to do is just listen to every show for a day. It is rather pathetic. It is a Ron Paul lovefest! Makes me sick. And.......it exposes them for who they truly are.

I'm not a E. Hufschmidt believer, but I did listen to an interview with him and Stadtmiller and the guys from Loose Change a year or so ago. They laughed at Eric when he brought up the Israeli factor in 9-11. Laughed and ridiculed him. I have never heard a retraction from Stadtmiller.

Robby Noel believes that 9-11 was a result of "blow back". He blames radical Islam and rebukes Christian Zionism.

Charles Guiliani is still blaming the "Globalists" but when he talks to Smith, he agrees that Zionism is to blame. But then out of the other side of his mouth, he goes back to blaming Globalists. He also believes the media is controlled by....."Corporations".

Those evil Corporations and the Globalists are to blame!

Then you have Rick Adams. Probably the only guy who actually blames 9-11 on Zionists. Unfortunately, he couches his theory with his religious fantasy which totally discredits him as someone legitimate.

Just spend some time listening to the past few days. If Ron Paul poops, they would bronze it and worship it.

RBN.........controlled opposition/disinformation.

http://familytrees.genopro.com/JcMorin/RonPaul/default.htm?page=toc_indi...

they're all the same.

their love for money and israel is their most common denominator.

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"Money" has no value - people do.

...minus all the specific accusations against RP. I simply don't know about them. But it doesn't matter if they are true and doesn't make a difference if they are false. He is Noam Chomsky of presidential race: an energy sink. Collecting the educated and progressives' energies and dissipate them so adroitly nobody can tell what happened.

[On a more advanced level, wasn't it what John Kohen, sorry, Kerry did by not hitting w where it hurt? Edwards who apparently didn't know what the game plan was, was visibly dumbstruck and speechless at the speed Kerry accepted defeat. Wasn't it the same game Zarkozy's opponent at the 11th hour all of a sudden behaved dumb and incompetent?

When 80% of voting machines are made by Israeli companies and congress shoots down in flame the bill making them come with paper trail, why does it matter which candidate says what? ]

It's time to stop playing in a game where the opponent decides the referee. We need to crack this nut from a different angle.

we've been saying this...

despite massive evidence of fraud his campaign committee will do nothing and should be sued for all the money people have raised which should be used by a real candidate to get rid of fraud and really fight...

his campaign will not touch the voting issue, i'm almost sure of it, shit is an elaborate psy op to get people REALLY upset and waste their time and effort... all those meetup groups that said let's drop 9/11 for Paul are gonna feel like idiots...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV6qAGigGYY

http://www.product-reviews.net/2008/01/09/new-hampshire-vote-fraud-confi...

people will still support him and make excuses for his campaign not raising hell over this issue and say that they can "overcome" vote fraud...

once again the media is complicit.

http://www.myspace.com/khanverse

You are right guys, they will 'try to steal' Ron Paul's Republicrite nomination; simple reverse_psychology.

The result? People demand Paul after ANOTHER voting sham, whereas shilliary gets the presidency. The people of America are bankrupted by corrupt monetary practices, then pitted against each other and completely subdued by war.

(modus operandi = deja_vu)

..another trap - "Who me? I wouldn't KiLL_MiLLiONS!!"

We have seen how Ron Paul was, FOR DECADES part of a sophisticated Zionist propaganda operation which had the goal of fomenting racial tensions between blacks and whites, and also discrediting the work of real anti-Zionist patriots. (see http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/5254)

I've been privy to the same information that you have Kula, and I haven't drawn that conclusion. Don't you think that's a bit of a stretch?

He could not have been unaware of what was being written in his name FOR DECADES.

What we've seen are numerous excerpts from newsletters written in Paul's name that span, as you say, decades. There's a lot of material there to sift through. Are we to assume that racist sentiments make up 50% of the content? It's more likely that most of the content was quite normal. I simply don't know, but it seems to me that if what we've seen is typical of what came out in those newsletters, Paul would've been crucified for it long ago.

At the end of the day, I don't think it's justified to conclude that we've uncovered a "sophisticated Zionist operation". We have to be mindful of two things: falling too quickly for Paul's charming rhetoric, and falling too quickly for the propaganda put out by his detractors.

To those that would say I'm "emotionally invested" in the idea of Ron Paul as my saviour, I can only submit that it's just not the case. I don't feel any emotional resistance to new information as it becomes available, and knowing what I know now, I'm not nearly as confident in Paul as I used to be. Moreover, I'm not American, so I feel pretty detached from the whole thing.

I just think some of you are prone to forgetting just how deep in the shit we are. You've got Hillary coming, and you're worried about Ron Paul. As AZ says, Hillary is a Zionist, Ron Paul might be a Zionist. All things considered, I support Ron Paul.

btw,

kula is mimickin what CJB has been saying much more articulately

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http://jewishracism.blogspot.com

not hating, just sayin..

http://www.myspace.com/khanverse

WUFYS itself is accused of being a Zionist shill so who know's what to believe here. Maybe that is the real purpose.

>I've been privy to the same
>information that you have
>Kula, and I haven't drawn that
>conclusion. Don't you think
>that's a bit of a stretch?

That is a fair question. Here is a partial list of what we do know about Ron Paul:

(1) Ron Paul coauthored a book on the Gold Standard, with an arch-Zionist who later went on to become a member of the Program for a New American Century.

(2) Ron Paul has been associating with the Ludwig von Mises Institute, which has been promoting the Gold Standard and has been linked to the infamous globalist Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi .

(3) The Gold standard is a recipe for disaster and enslavement.

(4) Ron Paul's campaign has been strangely passive about vote fraud (see this from Jim Condit: http://www.votefraud.org/how_stupid_is_benton.htm )

(5) The Zionists have historically been involved in operations to foment racial tensions in the US (e.g. the SPLC).

(6) Ron Paul has been involved in efforts to foment racial tension for a very long period of time. (We do know that there were a large number of racist statements made in Ron Paul's newsletter over many years, which he incredibly claims to be unaware of.)

(7) Ron Paul is openly contemptuous of 9/11 Truth

(8) Ron Paul remains absolutely blind to the primary threat against America - the threat of Zionist fascism.

As I said at the beginning of my post, I am making an "educated guess". You are obviously entitled to your own conclusions. Cheers.

Here is something more from Jim Condit: http://www.votefraud.org/snail_mail_cato_rpcampaignDec2007.htm

I agree with you on all points except this one:

(6) Ron Paul has been involved in efforts to foment racial tension for a very long period of time. (We do know that there were a large number of racist statements made in Ron Paul's newsletter over many years, which he incredibly claims to be unaware of.)

The fact that you've included 5 factual points above it and 2 below it doesn't add credence to the assertion. It will not absorb the credibility of the other points by osmosis or proximity. You know very well that that's a disinformation tactic, not that I'm accusing you of proliferating disinfo. I know you're sincere.

What we have in the New Republic article is several excerpts taken from Ron Paul newsletters that span decades. That would have to be thousands of articles, perhaps tens of thousands, depending on the size of the newsletters. None of us have seen these newsletters, but we know from Kirchuk's article that "they generally seem to have been published on a monthly basis since at least 1978."

Obviously, what needs to be established is how many of these articles were written by Ron Paul himself, and whether or not he authored the offending excerpts. I don't know enough about Ron Paul to say whether or not it 'sounds like him', but he claims he didn't write them. I don't know whether to believe that or not, but I do think it's entirely credible that it may not have been him. Even of late, we've seen plenty of videos and other material that have been produced by supporters completely independently from the oversight of Paul and his campaign.

In any case, it's far from a given that "Ron Paul has been involved in efforts to foment racial tension for a very long period of time." What's more apparent to me is the Zionist disposition of the New Republic (TNR) magazine. All that talk of "antisemitism" is enough to make me wanna puke. You might as well use Fox News as a reference.

But like you said, we're entitled to our own conclusions.

Crimes of Zion, I really don't buy that RP did not read the newsletters published under his own name. I cannot buy that he was unaware of the large number of racist statements that were made. Although I cannot provide absolute proof that he did in fact read those statements, I think it is not unreasonable to be concerned that he was complicit.

Fair enough, Kula. Fair enough.

With regard to the first link you offered up there:

Furthermore, the paid staffers of the Ron Paul campaign also told all the volunteers NOT to help verify the vote. So, HUNDREDS of able bodied young men were holding signs and chanting ONLY, instead of helping us try and get a fair vote for Ron Paul and everybody else at the Ames Straw Poll.

You're right, that reeks of duplicity. However, to be fair,

For the record, when asked, Ron Paul did NOT distance himself from concern about the way the votes were to be counted. Ron Paul told the press when asked about our federal lawsuit, that, “. . . now is the time to ask questions.”

We also know from people on our team who talked to Carol Paul and Ron Paul in Ames, Iowa that they are both worried about the suppression of their campaign by the Big Media – and by the secretive vote counting systems that are being used to count the vote for the contests related to Presidential Election 2008.

Thanks for the links.

Strangely, certain people at WUFYS have formed an anti-Ron Paul cult. They throw out confused speculation, or “educated guesses” (as one of them phrased it) in the hope that others will regard the gibberish as profound revelation. When others ignore the pabulum, the cultists become nasty.

This is obsessive-compulsive illness, a hallmark of which is projection, in which cultists assume that everyone is consumed by the same cult. The more obsessed the cultists become with Ron Paul, the more they imagine that others are oppositely obsessed.

Do you care about Ron Paul? I don’t. Ron Paul is just a side issue; a face on the TV.

The cultists apparently spend every waking hour thinking of ways to denounce Ron Paul. Anyone who disagrees, or who wants to talk about something else, is a “moron.”

We’ve seen this illness before, in threads where people write endless messages to one another. They argue about…nothing.

What they’re furious about is not that you disagree, but that you decline to join the cult. Naturally their greatest rage is directed those who note that this is a cult.

I'm not so sure that it's a cult, but I understand where you're coming from. What stands out the most to me is the I won't be fooled theme. Seems to me that some of Paul's more dedicated detractors are just as obsessed with making that point as the Paulites are "emotionally invested" in their candidate. Neither extreme is conducive to objectivity.

To answer your question, ultimately, I don't care about Ron Paul. Of the 48 blogs I've posted here, none are about Paul. I'm quite aware that Paul will come and go, but I do think he'd make a vastly superior president to Hillary, for a multitude of reasons.

..GoLD sheck_els..

..kind of like..

..a cult to the beast..

Doctor P is SUPPOSED to get the nomination,
a blip in time? i think not.

Note that i really don't support any gov't stooges,
nor do i visit or vote in the USi.

This is sure to get the anti-Paul crew's attention.

Glenn Beck tells the 'Real Story' about the national debt, and the coming "fiscal tsunami". He mentions Ron Paul during the segment and points out that he's the only candidate talking about it.

I can see this being touted as further 'evidence' that the MSM has begun the hard sell on Ron Paul and the gold standard.

Regarding COZ's video above, Comptroller General David Walker (head of the GAO) says every household in America owes the government $400,000.

Incorrect.

Nobody owes the government anything. The debt is owed to the private, secret, central bankers – i.e., the Federal Reserve.

Beck cannot mention this fact, because if he did, the Jews of the Federal Reserve would liquidate him.

He says USA today has calculated that the USA would need to stash away $58 trillion to generate enough interest to pay for future obligations.

That’s correct – and this interest is owed to the Jews of the Federal Reserve.

Beck says, “Our current investment is zero dollars.”

He means social security money withheld from every paycheck does not go into any fund. It is merely a supplemental income tax, and is used as revenue to pay on the national debt -- which means it goes straight to the bankers.

Beck says that because of compounding interest on money that Americans already owe, Americans must have more taxes withheld now that we would have been necessary in 2003.

True -- but again, who benefits from compounding interest? The central bankers.

Walker says the government has already promised $34 trillion more in medicare than it receives in federal revenues.

Really? Bush spends that amount every month maintaining the slaughter in Iraq. He just prmsied an extra $30 billion to iostan. Why don’t we stop the war? Why don't we cut ziostan off? No, to Beck such ideas are "crazy."

He whines about the USA facing a “fiscal tsunami,” but he wants the government to continue to waste hundreds of billions of dollars killing Iraqis and Afghans. What an idiot.

Beck says that every year the U.S. government does not act, the debt goes up by 2 to 3 trillion dollars.

What act should the government take, Beck? End this ridiculous "war on terror"? Of course not.

Beck says no politician except Ron Paul is talking about this.

Of course not. No one but Paul dares mention the Fed.

Walker says that by delaying tough choices, we get deeper and deeper into the whole.

Yes, we become more and more indebted to the Jews of the Federal Reserve. We could dump the Fed and take back control of our money -- but no, Beck’s beloved Jews must remain gods.

Beck notes that no matter how high taxes are raises, there will soon not be enough to cover the national debt plus its interest.

That's right. So let's dump the Fed, okay?

Walker shares a quote attributed to the beloved Jew plagiarist Einstein (though it was never proven that Einstein said this): The most powerful force in the universe is compounding as in compound interest.

Yes, the bankers know that. That’s why they’re gods. But Beck will never mention this.

Beck says Ron Paul is the only Presidential candidate who is saying we must stop spending. Yes, and Paul is the only one saying we must dump the Fed and the Internal Revenue Service – ideas that Beck considers “crazy.”

Beck says it’s insane for politicians to talk about universal health care, since we can’t pay for it.

No? We can do anything if we take back control of our money, instead of letting the Jews have it all.

Walker notes that tax cuts won’t do it. Even if the USA balances its budget tomorrow, it would still be $53 trillion in debt.

Yes: $53 trillion in debt to the Jews of the Federal Reserve.
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This is a classic case of someone using an alarm to promote his own sick ideas. Beck wants the war to continue, and the Fed to stay in power. Therefore, the US government must eliminate all social services.

We could stop the war and dump the Fed, but no, Beck says these must remain.

Beck is also taking a shot at Hillary, who talks about some kind of universal health care plan. Beck says there’s no way to pay for the programs that exist now, so how can Americans have any kind of universal health care?

The solution is to reform the U.S. health care system, which pays princely sums to doctors (more than in any other nation on earth), and which is controlled by insurance companies and pharmaceutical giants. Beck wants these giants to have more power than ever.

What an asshole.

I just think some of you are prone to forgetting just how deep in the shit we are. You've got Hillary coming, and you're worried about Ron Paul. As AZ says, Hillary is a Zionist, Ron Paul might be a Zionist. All things considered, I support Ron Paul.

I agree completely Crimes of Zion. Simple logic dictates taking the lesser of two evils. No psychological attachment, just the choice between two evils is evident and clear.

Notice how it is no longer round but has slightly flattened spots on the side. That is where some money changer got hold of the coin and "shaved" it, taking off, in essence, a portion of the coin's gold for interest.

It was this original practice of the money changers that contributed to their generational accumulation of wealth.

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