I find it troubling as well when an otherwise informative site goes subscription only. The same thing happened with the Wayne Madsen Report.

I agree with you both. Wayne Madsen's move was strange. Could he not get any advertisers? Or did he just get tired and use the subscription move as a way to reduce his investment of energy in the site? I don't know. He had some rather unique material now and then, but ultimately I can get the same information myself. He just made the digging easier -- sometimes a lot easier.

I enjoy Andrew Winkler, but his site isn't good enough to merit a subscription. However his move was more understandable. Pay Pal dropped him as "anti-Semitic," and Starbucks gave him heat over his Starbucks satire. He also got heat from the situation with Eric Hunt and that worm, Eli Wiesel. Maybe Winkler decided it was “safer” to go via subscription. I don’t know.

I do enjoy Australian anti-zionist sites, because they often have a different slant from American sites. Dr. Fredrick Töben is one of the best in the world, although he’s had to scale back because of the endless legal assaults on him. He vies with Robert Faurisson as zio-enemy # 1.

I could be totally wrong about this (C.O.Z. please correct me) but I often get the impression that up until a few years ago, Australians were a bit naïve about the zionist threat. In the USA and Canada, zionists are blatant. They work closely with every law enforcement agency at the federal, state, county, and municipal levels. They OWN Canada and the USA. Hence people like Mark Weber, who runs the Institute for Historical Review, are very careful.

Australia, by contrast, was traditionally less parochial. ( I am passionately fond of Australian cinema.) Up until a few years ago it seemed to me that Australians had the cheek to freely examine the holo-hoax, for example. What insolence! What impertinence! Of course, the zio-creeps have also crushed Australia now. Parts of Melbourne and Sydney are “Israel down under” (although Sydney also has a large Muslim community). Jews have also invaded Perth, Brisbane, and the Gold Coast.

You have more Russian Jews than we do. In the USA it’s wall-to-wall Ashkenazis, who blend in with the mainstream society.

Does the Australian Civil Liberties’ Union (ACLU) still defend free speech, or has it too been conquered? Who took over after John Bennett left? He was great.

One thing we get here at WUFYS that is satire. Some people don’t like satire, but I think it’s vital to laugh at the zio-freaks now and then. It reduces them to the worms they are.

The Senate has S1959 - their unresolved version of H1955 waiting out of cmmmittee to come to the floor for a vote. It will emerge the next time there is an incident, like the Patriot Acts did. This ACT is specifically targeted at 911 truth. Any site that promotes 911 truth will be shut down under this act.

This one will close down WUFYS.

I think it may be a little bit hasty to state that sites like WUFYS will be closed down by HR1955. The global nature of our community works to our favour, as it would be simply a matter of backing up the site and hosting it outside U.S. jurisdiction.

I also found Andrew Winkler's move to subscription-only a little disconcerting, particularly his claims that it takes in excess of $50,000 annually to run the site. Even with exceptionally high traffic, the annual costs for a site would be nowhere near as high as that, unless he is beset by lawsuits and needs help paying for those.

ziopedia is controlled...

anyway, people have exposed it.

didn't someone on this site from australia expose you a while ago with a video camera too?

http://www.myspace.com/khanverse

First, to Khanverse: you gotta be kidding me. That dude was a monosyllabic Muslim-hater with a personal grudge who couldn't stand it that I was getting attention from certain high-profile anti-Zionist people and websites. According to him, I'm a Zionist Jew, disinformation agent, police informer, drug dealer, chronic meth-head, homicidal maniac and flamboyant homosexual. If you believe that, I've got a bridge for sale in Baghdad. His evidence for those claims was footage of me standing outside my house telling him to get off my property with a pissed off look on my face. Needless to say, the only thing he "exposed" was himself, as an obsessed, belligerent nutcase, which is probably why nobody's heard a peep out of him since.

You say Ziopedia was "exposed" too: do you have a link? Because it's news to me. Maybe you could show me some damning video evidence of Winkler urinating in public or something.

AZ: Yeah, Winkler's site has been subjected to some pretty nasty attacks by a very determined Zionist who lobbied relentlessly to put Ziopedia out of action. When that alleged "assault" on Elie Weasel [sic] happened in San Fransisco, the alleged perpetrator, a dubious individual by the name of Eric Hunt with a blog titled killjews.blogspot.com posted an article at Ziopedia in February of last year describing the Weasel incident and implicating himself for the "crime". Naturally, the American ADL turned on Ziopedia for being associated with Hunt, who was now the hunted for committing the heinous crime of fucking with one of the most revered members of the Master Race. The Australian ADL went after Winkler like pitbulls on a poodle, calling his site "antisemitic" and accusing it of proliferating "hate speech" and succeeded in getting Ziopedia barred from using Google's ad space and donation accounts at Paypal and StormPay. Winkler has since set up another donation system provided by clickandpledge.com, to supplement funds that come in through his new subscription plan.

With regard to your impression that Australians have been slower to catch on vis-a-vis the Zionist threat, you're probably right. The media here is even more Zionist-friendly here than it is in the US and the UK in my opinion, so Australians have to dig deeper to get to the truth. For example, before I discovered the internet, I barely knew what Zionism was, let alone that it was responsible for 9/11.

Also, the Australian Zionist lobby is nowhere near as powerful or blatant as it is in the US, so it avoids negative publicity and flies below the radar.

Yeah, back in February 2007 I did a post about Eric Hunt. You can click the link if you’d care to see a picture of him.

On the topic of Australian anti-Zionists, I'm looking forward to reading Antony Lowenstein's My Israel Question, about the Israel lobby in Oz. I heard about it years ago but came across it in a bookshop the other day. It looks pretty good.

Lowenstein isn't as hardcore as Toben, for example, but he's been able to speak out against Zionism in a country that seems quite happy not to discuss the issue at all. His website is here.

I should've known I'd be hard-pressed to bring up an issue like the Hunt saga without you having already comprehensively documented it, you freakin' know-it-all. ;)

Which reminds me: I've meaning to ask you if you have an eidetic memory. Your knack for recalling exact dates, events and locations is unlike anything I've ever seen.

I've considered three possibilities:

1. You work for an anti-Zionist faction within one of the US intelligence agencies that is actively working to expose the Zionist mafia and Israel's role in 9/11, etc;

2. You're constantly referring to internet references whilst writing your blogs and comments, or;

3. You're just an extremely erudite anti-Zionist with an eidetic (photographic) memory.

I'm guessing it's no.3.

I would go through the trouble of copyrighting everything at this site under the creative commons license which allows anyone to copy anything freely provided that they don't try to restrict copying afterwards - but, it's not worth the time.

It's too bad that ziopedia restricted access to subscribers only.

Now, more than ever - information must be freely accessible.

Eventually, I'll have to raise some funds to pay for the hosting when this year is up (unless I hit the jackpot between now and then). But, even then I am determined to keep the site open for all.

Donations will be on a strictly voluntary basis.

Also, I can't believe he tries to pass off other people's work as his own - that's pretty bad and fairly unexpected. I thought he had more integrity than that.

I abhor copyrights, but taking credit for someone else's work is just wrong.

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I think you are one of the top minds here at WUFYS and I hope you are right about S1959. I do see it as specifically targeting 911 truth and those who expose zionism. This bill came right out of the AIPAC lobby and it's overwhelming passage in the House shows their influence.

I abhor copyrights, but taking credit for someone else's work is just wrong.

What about CopyLeft then? It is an alternative similar to some of the less restrictive Creative Commons licenses.

You’re very kind, but I get my info from the Internet like everyone else. No, I don’t have an eidetic memory. I just don’t like zionists and warmongers. When they perpetrate evil, it sticks in my mind.

By the way, on a different topic, “Intruder” wrote a post titled, How come there is so much hate for the jews in this blog?

When I write a post or a comment, I no longer distinguish between Jews and zionists, unless the occasion specifically calls for it.

For me, any Jew is automatically a zionist unless that Jew publicly condemns zionism. And it isn’t just Ashkanazis. The Shas political party in ziostan, for example, is mainly composed of Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews who are radically ultra-militant zionists.

Those who object when I write “Jew” instead of “Israeli” or “zionist” are those who walk in fear of Jews. They hope that by distinguishing between Jews and zionists, they will make Jews like them.

Here's a news flash: Jews hates us no matter what we do. Why not call a Jew a Jew? If an Israeli Jew shoots a Palestinian, why not say a Jew shot a Palestinian?

Jews want a “Jewish state.”

Fine.

I will use the term “Jew,” as in “the 1967 war between Egypt and Jews,” or the “1967 Jewish attack on the USS Liberty.”

People don’t like this, because it exposes Jews as Jews. Such people are cowardly and dishonest, and are therefore slaves of Jews.

You make a good point, Sullivan. And you're right - WUFYS and other sites like it can continue to exist in any jurisdiction which does not outlaw its existence.

However, jurisdictions which do outlaw them will take a number of measures both to "shut down" the sites vis-a-vis their own populations (i.e., make them inaccessible, even though they may still be "running") AND to make sure that NO ONE within their jurisdictional reach is allowed to participate or contribute to the site and remain unmolested.

In other words, even if the site remains accessible to Americans, they may be harassed, arrested, or imprisoned for contributing to it as a result of this draconian new law.

RE: Copyleft - I don't know the details regarding the difference between copyleft and creative commons licenses, but based on the vague idea I have about them, I endorse them both.

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Man, I just wrote a long, thorough reply to your comments regarding the validity of using the words Jew and Zionist interchangeably, but when I pressed 'preview comment' I got the 'Cannot Connect To Database' error page and lost the whole fucking lot.

I'm too pissed off to rewrite it now. There's nothing worse than losing emails and comments, especially ones you're pleased with and that take half an hour to write.

Pain in the arse.

Hah!

I write out all my blogs first on a Word document.

If you write anything longer than a paragraph, you must not write it here at WUFYS. You must write it in MS Word or some other format, as Rhiannon says. Then you can copy and paste. The Internet is twitchy. What happened to you has happened to all of us MANY times.

I would very much like to hear your comments. If you wait a day, and then post them, the result will be even better than the text you lost. Your subconscious mind will distill your thoughts down to their essence, which in turn will boost the impact of your words when you write them out.

Trust me on this. You will not forget what you wanted to say. You will come back with an even better message.

Whenever I write comments here or elsewhere, I just copy and paste the whole thing complete with any HTML or forum codes to Notepad. With the whole thing saved as raw text, I can preview here to see exactly how it looks, confident that my message will not be lost even if the browser window crashes out.

Even "Zio-shills" are not immune to the odd computer mishap now and then. :-)

Yes, there were some good (short) articles at Ziopedia, but it's not worth a subscription given the wealth of free material available.

You're right, I was referring to the comment from Cherifa that you linked to. I didn't realise you were arguing on two threads.

I'll have another go at that comment now that my core temperature has fallen below 89 degrees Celsius and steam is no longer shooting out of my earholes in jets.

I disagree with you for the most part with regard to the validity of using the words Jew and Zionist interchangeably.

For me, any Jew is automatically a zionist unless that Jew publicly condemns zionism.

I agree. However, using the word "Jew" as a synonym for "Zionist" is unjustified precisely because there does exists a significant minority of Jews who have denounced Zionism. To me, being labeled a Zionist is an insult of the highest order. Jews like Alfred Lilienthal and Jeffrey Blankfort (whom I know to be your favorite Jews) shouldn't have to suffer that kind of libel on account of our being too lazy to make the distinction.

Those who object when I write “Jew” instead of “Israeli” or “zionist” are those who walk in fear of Jews.

'Israeli' is a fair synonym for 'Jew'. At issue here is the use of the word 'Jew' as a synonym for 'Zionist'. By using the word 'Jew' to describe the enemy, you're letting Zionist gentiles like John Bolton, James Woolsey, Dick Cheney, David Wurmser, Stephen Hadley, the Bush family et al off the hook. These Zionists are not technically Jews, although they may as well be. And I don't think anyone here at WUFYS fears the Jew - we're here precisely because we don't.

They hope that by distinguishing between Jews and zionists, they will make Jews like them.

What's dangerous about not making the distinction is the fact that being sloppy with our terminology opens us to the charge of "antisemitism", one of the most powerful weapons in the Zionist arsenal. That's not to say that I'm 'afraid' of being labeled an antisemite. It just means that I know my message will be more effective and less prone to Zionist subterfuge if I can avoid that drama. Zionists can't win a debate with an anti-Zionist if the anti-Zionist is well-armed with the truth. Zionists are defending the indefensible. All they can do is whinge and moan about "antisemitism" and attempt to lay guilt trips on us. With that in mind, choosing our words carefully is the wisest and most expeditious strategy if our goal is to expose Zionist atrocities.

Having said all that, I like your writing style and I know exactly where you're coming from. I don't have a problem with the way you choose to express yourself. It's passionate and raw, and has a no-fucking-around feel to it, which I respect. But most importantly, your writing is intelligent, effective, incontrovertible and factually bulletproof, and a big part of what makes this site great.

I disagree on technical grounds - as opposed to emotional grounds - with your use of terminology, that's all.

Thanks for your comment

I only use the term “Jew” when I refer to Jewish people negatively. For example, I don’t think of Jeffrey Blankfort or Dr. Lilienthal as “Jews” or “non-Jews.” They are simply intelligent people. I also praise Finkelstein, with reservations. He’s a zionist, but his blasting of the holo-hoax industry is so thorough that I don’t refer to him as a “Jew.” I call him “Finkelstein.” Likewise I refer to Chomsky and Michel Chossudovsky as “Chomsky” and “Chossudovsky .” They are both zionist Jews (i.e., they support Israel) but they still have valuable things to say.

Most Jews are zionists. How do we distinguish between “Jew” and “zionist,” unless a Jewish person repudiates Zionism? And when an Israeli kills someone, what’s wrong with saying a Jew shot someone? These people are vicious, and I am tired of “pussy-footing” around them. Here in the USA, Jewish bullying is quite blatant and in-your-face.

We win no Jewish favor by avoiding the term “Jew.” Zionists (which includes most Jews) hate us no matter what. They have no friends.

But this lets Zionist gentiles like John Bolton, James Woolsey, Dick Cheney, David Wurmser, Stephen Hadley, the Bush family et al off the hook. These Zionists are not technically Jews, although they may as well be.”

True, and I condemn these people (plus “Christian” zionists) more than I condemn Jews. (Wurmser is a zionist Jew neocon, by the way.) To me, militant Jews can only survive if they have a willing host. Non-Jews such as those you mention are traitors. They help maintain U.S. slavery. However, everyone at WUFYS knows about those creeps. I never mention the word “Jew” outside WUFYS.

“Being sloppy with our terminology opens us to the charge of "antisemitism", one of the most powerful weapons in the Zionist arsenal. “

Any non-Jewish person who is not a zionist ally is automatically “anti-Semitic.” In fact, Jews hate their Goy supporters. They regard worms like John Bolton to be expedient, that’s all. They despise “Christian” zionists. Avoiding the term “Jew” will not change this, nor will it bring any Jewish person to our side.

I long avoided mentioning the word “Jew,” but Jewish atrocities only got worse. Therefore I have started using the term “Jew” in many places. I want Israel cut off. I want Jews and their allies exposed.

And to repeat, I never use the term “Jew” outside WUFYS, since it automatically makes everyone dismiss me.

Thanks again for your comment.

I think you may have misunderstood me. I'm not arguing against the use of the word 'Jew' - shit no - I'm arguing that the words 'Jew' and 'Zionist' are not synonymous with each other. If you look at my posts, you'll see that I'm not shy of the word 'Jew'.

If you look at these remarks of yours, you'll understand why I'm assuming we're talking about very different things:

And when an Israeli kills someone, what’s wrong with saying a Jew shot someone?
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We win no Jewish favor by avoiding the term “Jew.”
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Avoiding the term “Jew” will not change this, nor will it bring any Jewish person to our side.
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I long avoided mentioning the word “Jew,” but Jewish atrocities only got worse. Therefore I have started using the term “Jew” in many places.

Jews are Jews. They call themselves Jews, so they're Jews. No one can complain about gentiles using the word 'Jew'. It's their word, not ours.

My point was simply that not all Jews are Zionists, and not all Zionists are Jews. Given that the problem is Zionism, it's not accurate to paint all Jews with the same brush. Our friend from the ZioMilitia uses this tactic, and it works against us, not for us.

If a Zionist is a Jew, I'll call him a Jew. I have no problem with that. I also understand that the vast majority of Jews are the enemy, but it's by virtue of the fact that a small minority of Jews are anti-Zionist that the generalisation is rendered invalid.

Cheers, AZ.

PS: David Wurmser is a Swiss-American Zionist, not a Jew, as far as I know.

Is Wurmser Jewish? Wikipedia doesn’t mention it one way or another, but many web sites do.

Here are ten quick examples…

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Finally the Jewish Telegraph Agency says Wurmser is Jewish.

Daryl Bradford smith says Wurmser is Jewish (for whatever that’s worth). So does David Duke.

And of course Wurmser’s wife Meyrav co-founded MEMRI with Yigal Carmon, a colonel in Israeli military intelligence. Meyrav and David Wurmser helped Perle write the infamous “Clean Break” paper in 1996 for Benjamin Netanyahu. It laid out plans for the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

Wurmser is tighter than is Bolton with Jews like Perle, Feith, Elliot Abrams, and Norman Podhoritz– although Wurmser worked under Bolton when the latter was Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security Affairs.

Wurmser is a resident fellow at the Jewish-run American Enterprise Institute, where he directs the Middle East program. He regularly attends the right-wing Likud-sponsored Herzliya Conference in ziostan (a regular meeting of American neocons and Israeli hardliners).

It seems to me that Wurmser is one of the Chosen People, although my only proof is what others (including Jews) say about him.

I checked out a few of your references, and it does seem that a lot of people consider Wurmser Jewish. And if JTA says he's a Jew, he's a Jew, as far as I'm concerned.

I looked at Wurmser's wiki profile, and most of the internet references that refer to Wurmser as Swiss seem to have quoted wikipedia verbatim, so that seems to be the general source of that particular information. In contrast, the references that claim Wurmser to be Jewish are worded in a more varied way, which suggests multiple sources.

However Michael Collins Piper, whose ziodar I trust more than the average Joe's, refers to Wurmser as Swiss and makes no mention of his being Jewish, which he should know by now given that the article is dated June 2007. And it's possible that a vast majority of people have just assumed that Wurmser is Jewish based on his surname and the company he keeps. And for what it's worth, we're not the only ones scratching our heads. In the thread below the first reference you provided there seems to some confusion about whether or not WormZior is a Jew:

Poster: ami - Should we then assume that the speaker did not actually say that Wurmser edited a book that is a secret blueprint, but actually said something more benign (like the fact that Wurmser is Jewish and has the ability to influence Cheney?) ??

Poster: Jim Henley - We have no reason to believe or disbelieve that the speaker or speakers said Wurmser is Jewish. We do know that David Brooks has a track record of trying to conflate criticism of neoconservatives with criticism of Jews.

Anyway, while the evidence is technically inconclusive, I'm with you - Wurmser is Jewish.

The surname 'Wurmser' doesn't show up on the Avotaynu Jewish Surname Index. It sounds Jewish to me, but it looks like it's a German or French surname.

Excellent work. Yes, there's some question about Wurmser's Jewish identity -- not that it matters, since Wurmser is evil in any case.

My posts are Jew-Jew-Jew, but I condemn warmongers like John Bolton even more, since they are traitors.

Again I am impressed with your research skills!!!!!!

All of you, really. everyone will make discoveries; and share whatever is relevant. some stuff is pretty mundane too, until such time as we actually figure it out!

i still have reservations about belonging to a huge database of 'anti-semites' that could be used against us.

you do remember what hitty, shitty and moa did, right?

Since Grim has revived this thread with his comment, I should mention that I made an error in my last comment, above. I realised shortly after posting it all those weeks ago, but didn't bother to correct it. Wurmser actually does show up in the Avotaynu Jewish surname index (link above). It's the last name on the list, and appears in six of their databases, which would make it a pretty common Jewish surname. David Wurmser is almost definitely Jewish, despite his Swiss dual citizenship.

Oh, gawd.. whoever signed up for that better disappear themselves, and quick!

I was going to keep this to myself, but here it goes..

Whilst trying to convert a swiss zionist (i may have been partially successful), he told me about his old time friend who got a tattoo..

On second thought, i'm not telling anyone.