MSNBC??? My..my… what a brilliant source of information to rely on.

What you posted is really nauseating. I don’t know if you are simply that misinformed or if you are again being manipulative. While the entire Arab and Muslim world didn’t stretch a finger in help or raise their voice and take a stand with Egypt and the Palestinians against Israel and the US, You come in with a silly post again which really showes that you have not been really following what has been happening in Egypt….

Egypt which you start condemning in less than 24 hours is the one that fed the starving Palestinian population and I’ll have you know that there wasn’t enough food, supplies and medication in Rafah and Arish for 1.5 million people and a huge effort is being done here to ensure the ability to provide. By the way, the Palestinians needed much more than what I mentioned. They needed mattresses, towels, coal, soap, cement and on to rebuild everything the Israelis have been destroying for the past 2 years… and of course fuel… and contrary to what you read, Israel is providing them with zilch. They took every drop of fuel that was available in Sinai.

Did you see the size of the steel wall that was removed AAZ? Did you see the length of the portions of steel and concrete walls that have been removed? Did you watch the live coverage of the event? Did you see how the Egyptian army behaved??? Did you see how the Palestinians and the Egyptian army interacted??? Obviously not!! Because if you had… and if you understood the politics involved in this event, you wouldn’t be posting a ridiculous article like the one you just posted… and from who???? MSNBC???? This is where you get your news??? Lol! I listen to them just to know what the poor Americans are being told and what they are not being told. Why didn’t you also post ABC’s news? They said that the Egyptian army tried to stop the Palestinians with tear gas. That was pure rubbish. The Egyptian army welcomed them open armed and allowed the exploding of the wall to take place and in fact destroyed some other walls and removed the barbed wire to facilitate the passage for all the Palestinians…. And all this was broadcast live and we all recorded it. There were hugs and kisses. There was happiness and joy. Did you listen to Palestinian TV? I very much doubt…
A little tip for you to try to consider: the Israeli objective is to totally seal off Gaza from the West Bank. They have started it 2 years ago and are completing it now. Gaza is a nightmare for the Israelis and they want it off their shoulders. Shamir had express dreaming to just sink Gaza. Then the Israelis will give whatever is left of the West Bank to Jordan and keep Jerusalem. If Egypt starts supplying Gaza with everything it needs and allows Israel to get away from its obligations to supply, then Egypt will be fulfilling the Israeli objective. Then Egypt will also not be helping the Palestinians get their Palestinian state. Of course Egypt cannot just keep the borders open and say…”okay guys… lets dump our project of a Palestinian state because Mahmoud Abbas is an asshole”. Egypt has to help the Palestinians recover Palestine as is the Palestinian right legally.

It seems that I have totally over estimated your understanding and analysis of the Middle East… but then that is the case of the majority of people especially those who are not from the region.

PS. Even in the picture where you have an army car with the caption: "Egyptian police vehicle clashes with Palestinians who rush to stocl up befor the prisonb wall is rubuilf".... can you see that faces of the Palestinians??? They are smiling... and furthermore, this vehicle is not moving because its doors are open.

The US is so mad that it wants you to think that Egypt is doing exactly what the US says... and you fell for it... or chose to fall for it.

I saw other comments you made on the Gaza situation. Those comments, plus your bizarre reaction to my previous satire, confirmed that I overestimated your intelligence.

Now you come out with this whining, based on false claims.

“The entire Arab and Muslim world didn’t stretch a finger in help or raise their voice and take a stand with Egypt and the Palestinians against Israel and the US.”

On the contrary, it is Egypt that is the most to blame here. Every oil sheikdom telephoned your beloved dictator Mubarak, as did Ghadafi and Ahmadinejad (which was the first time any Iranian leader has called an Egyptian president since the Iranian revolution). All these people insisted that Mubarak stop collaborating with Israelis, and do something about the crisis in Gaza. During the Gaza breakout, your beloved dictator simply ordered his prison guards to not interfere. How sweet that he suspended his oppression of Palestinians for a day or two. He has watched Palestinians suffer during his entire career, doing nothing for them. And now he will rebuild the prison wall. Already he has erected barbed wire barriers to seal up breaks in the concrete.

Your beloved dictator has clung to absolute power for 26.5 years by keeping Egypt under a permanent state of “emergency,” and by engaging in all manner of vote-rigging. As with Musharraf, your beloved dictator only stays in power because of constant infusions of cash from the USA (an average of $108 million per month, every month, year after year). During all that time, he has groveled before Jews, and imprisoned anyone who opposed or questioned him – e.g., Ayman Abd El Aziz Nour (El Ghad leader) who your beloved dictator sentenced to five years in prison because Nour dared stand for president.

When the 2,000 pilgrims came back from the Hajj, and the Jews would not let them enter Gaza through Rafah, your beloved dictator left the Palestinians stranded on two ferries in the Red Sea. The Muslim Brotherhood has consistently protested your beloved dictator’s callous refusal to help Palestinians.

I could write an extremely detailed post about the corruption of your beloved dictator, but instead I will continue to address your whining…

“Egypt which you start condemning in less than 24 hours is the one that fed the starving Palestinian population and I’ll have you know that there wasn’t enough food, supplies and medication in Rafah and Arish for 1.5 million people and a huge effort is being done here to ensure the ability to provide.”

The Palestinians bought up everything on store shelves from Rafa to El Arish. Egyptians doubled and tripled their prices, making a killing. You say Egypt "fed" Palestinians. Nonsense. Egypt sold goods to Palestinians at exorbitant prices. So what? Also, I very much doubt that all 1.5 million Palestinians swarmed into Egypt.

In any case, your beloved dictator is condemning Palestinians to prison again.

“Did you see the size of the steel wall that was removed? Did you see the length of the portions of steel and concrete walls that have been removed?”

Most of the steel wall remains. It was simply pushed over. The breaks in the concrete barriers have now been sealed up with barbed wire. Only people with emergency needs are being let out of Gaza, and soon even they will not be let out. Your beloved dictator has already announced that he will once again seal up Gaza, thereby condemning Palestinians to hell. He is happy to collaborate with Jews.

“Egyptian army welcomed them open armed (sic) and allowed the exploding of the wall to take place and in fact destroyed some other walls and removed the barbed wire to facilitate the passage for all the Palestinians. There was happiness and joy. There were hugs and kisses.”

So I see…

“If Egypt starts supplying Gaza with everything it needs and allows Israel to get away from its obligations to supply, then Egypt will be fulfilling the Israeli objective. Then Egypt will also not be helping the Palestinians get their Palestinian state.”

You are a zionist. Your words are echoed by the world zionist organization, which deliberately condemned Jews to Nazi detention camps, and refused to help Jews get out of Europe during World War II. The zionists said this was necessary to get a Jewish state in Palestine. Likewise, you condemn Palestinians to the Gaza prison. You say this is necessary for them to get a Palestinian state. Keeping Palestinians in a hellish prison is not my idea of helping them get a state.

“Of course Egypt cannot just keep the borders open and say…”okay guys… lets dump our project of a Palestinian state because Mahmoud Abbas is an asshole”. Egypt has to help the Palestinians recover Palestine as is the Palestinian right legally.”

Why can’t Egypt keep the borders open? Palestinians could come and go as they please, traveling to other nations, buying supplies, visiting relatives, and returning again. Why must your beloved dictator keep them sealed in prison? Why must he use his tongue to polish Jewish shoes?

“It seems that I have totally over estimated your understanding and analysis of the Middle East.”

Just as I have totally overestimated yours. Your bizarre reaction to my satire of Jewish lies about Hamas missiles revealed that you have major psychological issues. Your aberration was further confirmed by miscellaneous comments you have made since then.

“The US is so mad that it wants you to think that Egypt is doing exactly what the US says... and you fell for it... or chose to fall for it.”

Of course Egypt does what the US says. Do you think the USA gives $1.3 billion per year to your beloved dictator out of kindness?

If your beloved dictator is too cowardly to stand up to Jews, he certainly can’t stand up to the USA. For the most part, he does as he’s told. He’s a US / Jewish puppet, bought and paid for. He may even have been installed by the CIA, as Nasser was. I think it’s possible the USA ordered Mubarak to not interfere with the Palestinian breakout, as Gaza had become a public relations fiasco for the USA.

You enjoy criticizing other nations, but you become childish when Egypt is examined. In fact, you're pathetic.

I will waste no more time debating your silliness.

I haven't had much time to participate at the site lately because of some very pressing personal problems.

However, the site continues to flourish thanks to top notch contributors such as AA and Cherifa. You both have a lot to offer.

And although you are at eachother now - you must realize that you both have many admirers who respect your opinions and rely on your input to keep them abreast of everything related to zion.

It's not fair to suggest that Cherifa is "whining" as she is just stating her opinion, which happens to be critical of your conclusions. On the other hand, I agree that Mubarek is a die hard and selfish dictator who's bought and paid for by US(zionist-controlled)AID.

Regarding Gaza and open borders with Egypt, although I agree that israel should be forced to oblige by international law and return Palestinian land to its peoples - I don't agree that Egypt should force Palestinians to endure the brunt of the sacrifice by being holed up in Gaza so that "israel doesn't get away with its land theft."

There are other ways to force israel to give up the land it stole from Palestinians through theft, fraud, and murder.

Maybe, after all this, it would have been a better strategy to let them have their stinking land so they can BURY THEMSELVES in their own greed and corruption.

I must go now - please, for the sake of unity and brotherhood, respect eachother's opinions and let us work together to rid the world of zionism.

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"Money" has no value - people do.

You know AAZ, what you write sounds like Arab ‘nationalist’ blabber (whether you are an Arab or not). Blabber that has never developed beyond the phase of blabber. Rhetoric, rhetoric and rhetoric that has nothing to do with reality. If this were an email between you and me, I wouldn’t even bother to reply to it. But since we are in a blog… and other people who may be foreign to the Middle East and may read, I will reply in order to convey to them the different stances of our region… and I don’t even know that you are from our region as your name is definitely not Arabic.
So, here I go:

Every oil sheikdom telephoned your beloved dictator Mubarak, as did Ghadafi and Ahmadinejad (which was the first time any Iranian leader has called an Egyptian president since the Iranian revolution).

Oh well… some Arab leaders “telephoned”… I suppose that this is a heroic achievement that I should be in admiration of them… lol… as you are. Ghaddafi phoned… Gee. This isn’t even worth a comment. You mention that Ahmadinejad phoned. First of all Ahmadinejad is not an Arab and until now, the Arab world has not wanted Iran to ‘interfere’ in the Arab/Israeli conflict. I am not judging here if this is right or wrong, but this has been the united policy of the Arab world, not just of Egypt… so don’t group Ahmadinejad with the Arabs here. Another point regarding the interference of Ahmadinejad at this state in the Palestinian/Israeli conflict is putting fuel on fire. Haven’t you noticed that Israel and the US have been waiting for anything to cast any blame on Iran and hype their case? Obviously not. This line of thinking of yours is also apparent in your “satire” on Hamas that involved Iran. The sensitivity of this issue is clearly not on your mind or you are acting like you can’t see it. While the world is again trying to keep Iran out of defiant situations with the US and Israel right now, you speak about drawing it in as though it would cause no problem either for Iran or any of the countries involved. I really do wonder what your ultimate objective for the Middle East is. By the way AAZ, Egypt and Iran have quite solid unofficial relations now… which you seem not to know about. We just don’t have official relations pending the change of a “street name” in Iran.
Also, you keep talking about my “beloved dictator”. Don’t attribute things to me because you don’t like my opinion. I am not blind to Mubarak and you certainly are not going to teach me the flaws of my president. Furthermore, Egypt’s president for once in a long time did something I think is good. You may not think so. That is you prerogative… but Mubarak, his corruption or subservience to the US were not the subject of our conversation.

All these people insisted that Mubarak stop collaborating with Israelis, and do something about the crisis in Gaza.

This is really total rubbish. Do you imagine for a second that the Arabs will stop talking with the Israelis???? You are living a dream. They have all just opened trade offices that all function in secret…. All those Arabs have unofficial relations with Israel (safe Ghaddafi maybe) and they are not about to put them aside. They are just cowards and dare not admit it. Didn’t you see them all lined up in Annapolis? Please tell me what they were doing in Annapolis if they had such a “strong” stand against Israel?? Were was Saudi Arabia’s Mecca Accords in Annapolis?? In Egypt, we are sick of Arab rhetoric and if we had to wait for the Arabs, we would never have recuperated our lands and would have been like the Palestinians or Syrians or Lebanese today. So please AAZ, don’t try to give me-an Arab who knows the Arabs inside out and who has Israel as a neighbor-Arab rhetoric as an example to follow.

During the Gaza breakout, your beloved dictator simply ordered his prison guards to not interfere

Again he is my beloved dictator…lol… You have psychiatric problem. I already answered that point before anyway, but you either do not read or you are caught in the world of rhetoric that never advances… and that is your problem, not mine.

How sweet that he suspended his oppression of Palestinians for a day or two. He has watched Palestinians suffer during his entire career, doing nothing for them. And now he will rebuild the prison wall. Already he has erected barbed wire barriers to seal up breaks in the concrete.

Yes, he is very sweet indeed for having done so. Can you give me an example of a country that allowed its borders to be bombed and allowed from 700,000.00 to 1 million foreigners to enter without even an identity card?? I was in Al Arish today and while you here write how “badly” Egypt has behaved towards the Palestinians, all I saw were Palestinians being welcomed, taken care of and supplied. I didn’t even recognize Arish because of the amount of Palestinians in it.
You mention that Mubarak was watching Palestinians suffering his entire career and did nothing for them. AAZ, I have to say that you sound downright jealous, like many countries are in the Middle East. When Mubarak became president, Egypt had not yet recovered all of the lands Israel had occupied. There was still a portion of the land in Sinai (Taba) that Israel was refusing to give back. Mubarak’s first priority was to recuperate all the land. According to you AAZ, Mubarak should maybe have forgotten about his country and given his attention to Palestine first. Your thinking denotes a lack of knowledge of Middle East politics… and it might be an idea for you to think before making sweeping statements. Second, Egypt is the country that fought the most amount of wars for Palestine and lost the biggest amount of soldiers and civilians for Palestine… and until today, it is Egypt that is the main mediator when it comes to Palestinian affairs. It sounds maybe “cool” to call on Egypt to break its relations with Israel as you are doing or the Arab are, but it is not clever. In case you also hadn’t noticed, Egypt has its own national security to consider… and when Egypt needed help before the 73 war, none of the Arabs accepted to lend a helping hand. Don’t come now and ask that Egypt should sacrifice whatever little stability it has to be drawn into the never ending world of Arabic rhetoric again. Egypt will help but without sacrificing itself as you seem to suggest. Tell me AAZ, do you ever come up with constructive criticism?
Even Khaled Mishaal and Ismail Haneya have thanked Egypt and Mubarak in particular, but you AAZ are leading you stupid little campaign that only serves as a tool of “divide and rule”. Why not be a little positive and join the effort that Egypt started instead of already breaking ranks among the Arab countries?
You mention also that Egypt is already rebuilding the Gaza prison to place the Palestinians back in it. Have you seen what has happened to the border other then the shots they keep repeating on mainstream TV and even Al Jazeera etc… Have you seen a long shot of the destruction of the borders? Do you know that today the borders were exploded again and bulldozed down? Do you know of any country who doesn’t have border control??? What is wrong with Egypt rebuilding its border???? Didn’t you read that Egypt said that it would continue feeding the Palestinians and that they would be allowed in to buy theie supplies but in a more organized way??? AAZ… frankly you seem to be a very negative person. You only pick the items of news that reflect the negativity that you wish to display, but in so doing, you are misleading people and giving them wrong information. It is rather incredible how you have turned the only country that really ever did anything for the Palestinians into the biggest Palestinian enemy.

Your beloved dictator has clung to absolute power for 26.5 years by keeping Egypt under a permanent state of “emergency,” and by engaging in all manner of vote-rigging. As with Musharraf, your beloved dictator only stays in power because of constant infusions of cash from the USA (an average of $108 million per month, every month, year after year). During all that time, he has groveled before Jews, and imprisoned anyone who opposed or questioned him – e.g

This is totally different issue which has nothing to do with what has been happening in Gaza and Rafah. Like I thought however, you have a tooth against Egypt. Mubarak is indeed a dictator… Did you ever hear me tell you the contrary???

Ayman Abd El Aziz Nour (El Ghad leader) who your beloved dictator sentenced to five years in prison because Nour dared stand for president

Ayman Nour?! Who the fvk is Ayman Nour to become president of Egypt?? No such pawn of the US is ever going to become a president here. Mr. Bush and the US congress will not appoint our president. Sure, you can tell me that Mubarak himself is a puppet… which he is. But Mubarak is a military man. He fought 3 wars against Israel. He was commander of the air force. He knows who the enemy is. He knows Israel. Ayman Nour is a man of zero experience. The only reason his name started to shine was because he was being pumped up by the US in the name of “democratizing” the Middle East. Please… we have seen America’s democracy in Iraq. Besides, let Aqbaat el Mahgar and their efforts against Egypt in the file of “Human Rights” as well as the EU resolution help Mr. Nour become president or even get him out of jail since the US thinks that such pressure will work with us.

When the 2,000 pilgrims came back from the Hajj, and the Jews would not let them enter Gaza through Rafah, your beloved dictator left the Palestinians stranded on two ferries in the Red Sea

You simply don’t have your information straight… and know nothing about the role of the PA (Palestinian Authority) in this and you know nothing about the different crossing into Gaza and who controls what.

The Muslim Brotherhood has consistently protested your beloved dictator’s callous refusal to help Palestinians

As I said, no country has ever helped the Palestinians as much as Egypt has and go ahead and prove otherwise if you can. As for the Muslim Brotherhood, they are the opposition and they anyway protest everything the government does. What’s new about that? If it were up to the Muslim brotherhood, Egypt wouldn’t have Sinai today or the Suez Canal.

The Palestinians bought up everything on store shelves from Rafa to El Arish. Egyptians doubled and tripled their prices, making a killing. You say Egypt "fed" Palestinians. Nonsense. Egypt sold goods to Palestinians at exorbitant prices. So what? Also, I very much doubt that all 1.5 million Palestinians swarmed into Egypt

Oh… gee…. I am sorry AAZ. The groceries and shops that had been closed for about 2 years now because of the siege on Gaza (because they all mostly work in trading goods with Gaza), should have been asked to give out everything for free and to starve themselves… so that AAZ could be happy. You are such a negative person that you interpreted my saying that “Egypt fed the Palestinians” as meaning that Egypt also paid for it. Excuse me… but why is Egypt always expected to provide while the rich sheikhs sit on the golden asses and have US bases built on their land for the US to attack their neighbors while Egypt pays??? Yes Egypt sold goods and made profit… and in case you didn’t know, Palestinians also bought and sold a lot of goods and made huge profits from their own people. That of course, you don’t notice because you conveniently never heard of the trading and taxes that are imposed by Palestinians in Gaza. That having been said, Egypt also donated a hell of a lot and is still in the process of doing so… and will most likely continue throughout the coming God knows how long. But this is news that you don’t like to hear because for you, Egypt is seems to be a sore point.

Only people with emergency needs are being let out of Gaza, and soon even they will not be let out. Your beloved dictator has already announced that he will once again seal up Gaza, thereby condemning Palestinians to hell. He is happy to collaborate with Jews

You really are a petty person AAZ. Egypt’s hospitals have taken in the difficult medical cases. Please tell me of one other country that has done the same. Not only are you petty, you are also bitter. God know what happened to you. Yes, Egypt has a peace agreement with Israel and I fully support it. Egypt will not sacrifice its land and youth again to please the misplaced pride of some Arabs. Why would Egypt not recuperate its land, tourism and Suez Canal? So that a person like you can be happy?? What do Egyptians care what a person like you thinks? What good are you to Egyptians or to Egypt? Why should your opinion even be a consideration?
One more thing, you keep talking about the Jews… the Jews….Jews… If you have a problem with the Jews, this is your problem. I have no problems with the Jews. I have a problem with Zionists and I really don’t appreciate your reference to the JEWS all the time as though www.wakeupfromyourslumer was anti Jewish and not anti-Zionist. In my humble opinion it simply discredits the blog. You even change the world “Israeli” to “Jewish” in the title of the articles that you post.

You are a zionist. Your words are echoed by the world zionist organization, which deliberately condemned Jews to Nazi detention camps, and refused to help Jews get out of Europe during World War II. The zionists said this was necessary to get a Jewish state in Palestine. Likewise, you condemn Palestinians to the Gaza prison. You say this is necessary for them to get a Palestinian state. Keeping Palestinians in a hellish prison is not my idea of helping them get a state

I am a Zionist? You are a pathetic superficial human being. You cannot come up with real answers to my questions so you resort to the ultimate insult. Why are you reminding me of Nazi detention camps??? What do they have to do with the Middle East problem?? This is such a typical Zionist strategy. Are you comparing Gaza with a nazi camp in Germany? If so, you are a stupid person. Gaza is a piece of Palestine which you seem to have entirely forgotten. If a Palestinian state is to be established, not an inch of Gaza or the West bank are to be sacrificed…. But you just want the Palestinians to conveniently leave Gaza and forget Palestine. Who even ever told you that the Palestinians wanted that? Have you talked to any of those Palestinians?? Do you know how they feel??? Do you think that they want to abandon their land??? You are the Zionist because you want them to do exactly that. You want them out of Gaza (prison camp or not). You have put the whole Palestinian dream aside because you are such a shallow human being that you cannot see 10 inches in front of your nose. How could you when you are too wrapped up in stupid Arab rhetoric and blab la bla which for 60 years produced nothing. Bravo Bravo AAZ. Palestinians should all get out of Gaza and go and live in the Arab world or wherever they want so that there are 1.5 million more Palestinians asking for the Right of Return. Only, there will be no land to return to if any of your brilliant ideas were ever given any attention by Arab decision makers.