Iraqis Blame US for Carnage
For good cause - as Americans have no legitimate reason to be there and Iraq was never as bad as this before the invasion.
[I]n the streets of Sadriya, the poor, mostly Shiite area of central Baghdad where the bomb exploded, merchants and residents struggled to contain their anger.“I saw with my own eyes young children flying from the windows of the apartments on top of the shops when the explosion arrived,” said Haydar Abdul Jabbar, 28, a car mechanic who was standing near a barber shop when the bomb exploded. “One woman threw herself out of the window when the fire came close to her.”
Mr. Abdul Jabbar said he rushed to collapsed buildings trying to help the wounded but finding mainly hands, skulls and other body parts. At one point, he discovered the remains of a close friend, who was engaged to be married.
“How would you feel if you were in this position?” he said Sunday. “The government is supposed to protect us, but they are not doing their job. I watch the TV and see the announcements on the imminent implementation of the security plan. Where is it for God’s sake?”
“I wish they would attack us with a nuclear bomb and kill us all,” he added, “so we will rest and anybody who wants the oil — which is the core of the problem — can come and get it. We can not live this way anymore; we are dying slowly every day.”
The truck exploded around dusk on Saturday at a market flush with crowded food stands. The crater from the blast was large enough to hold a sedan; the blast threw the truck’s gnarled engine block than 100 yards away.
As the sun rose on Sunday, the rescue effort continued with workers and relatives tugging concrete in a mad search for victims amidst the piles of debris where apartments and offices once stood. Processions heavy with death moved through the area: Men lashed simple wood coffins to the top of mini-buses for the long journey to cemeteries while families in the back of trucks wailed after collecting the bodies of relatives.
While the American military put out a statement saying that an Iraqi Army assisted at the scene, the area closest to the crater was controlled by the Mahdi Army. Between 8 and 15 men dressed in black, carrying AK-47s, waived reporters away Sunday morning.
The scene was thick with anger directed at the Iraqi government and American military for letting the people down and allowing such a devastating attack.
When asked about the “tragedy” of the blast, one Mahdi guard responded: “The only tragedy was when we voted for weak officials.”
He then pointed toward the bombed out buildings and added, “This is the result.”
Later, when two American Humvees and an Iraqi patrol passed just after 1 p.m., one of the men in black called the soldiers “apes and cowards.”
Hardly terms of endearment.
“They’re the ones who brought us the catastrophe,” one of them said. “If they were not here such a thing wouldn’t happen to us.”
Mr. Abdul Jabbar, the car mechanic, was one of many Iraqis on Sunday who said that the American military would have been better off leaving the Mahdi Army in charge of Shiite neighborhoods.
Uday Ahmed, 31, a Sunni whose three restaurants at the market were obliterated by the blast, along with 20 of his workers, said that until a few weeks ago, Mahdi militiamen were more visible on the streets, checking vehicles, watching, offering to arbitrate disputes.
This is just more proof that the Shiite-Sunni divide is fabricated by the US-israeli intelligence and media apparatus.
Why else would a Sunni business owner be remembering with gratitude the Shiite militiamen who used to patrol his neighborhood???
After American and Iraqi officials arrested several top Mahdi commanders last month, he said, many of the Mahdi militants drifted into the shadows or fled.
He said their departure contributed to the recent spasm of violence in Shiite neighborhoods.
“The Jaish al-Mehdi are like protectors, but with the announcement of the start of the security plan the Americans really chased them, so they withdrew from these places and now we don’t see them,” he said, using the Iraqi term for the Mahdi army. “They don’t want to confront the Americans.”
He acknowledged that nothing may have stopped the truck bomber’s deadly mission. Massive blasts have killed scores in Baghdad long before the American security plan was announced.
Yet some Shiites in the area said that the truck could have been stopped at a checkpoint, decreasing damage from its payload. Hussein Ali, 57, said that Shiite militiamen might have recognized that the driver was not from the neighborhood.
“They don’t have any system or apparatus to check the cars,” he said. “But they know from looking at the faces who is supposed to com to Sadriya to bring vegetables or fruits. They have a relationship with the merchants.”
Which is something even Americans with the best of intentions can NEVER do.
Americans need to COME HOME, NOW. And leave the people of Iraq to protect themselves the way they see fit.
... all this mindless carnage in Iraq? I know it has been suggested before, but it may well be that the 'civil war' between Shi'ites and Sunnis in Iraq is being fueld by blasts planted by Mossad agents. The purpose - to force the native population to flee, leave the country and become refugees in neighbouring islamic states (Shi'ites to Iran, Sunnis to Syria). Leaving the country for the Israeli and their faithful allies (e.g. Sephardic Jews) to repopulate and have the oil safely in their hands.
Sounds far fetched? Just read James Bacque's and Alfred-Maurice de Zayas's books on how the ashkenazi leaders conducted the Red Army's attacks on the East German population - to force it to flee and leave the lands in the hands of Poles and ashkenazi commissaries. This level of violence and terrorising, without proper combat between two would-be feuding factions, is highly suspicious, it is so much reminicent of that ethnic terrorising and then clensing we have seen before in Eastern Europe (1945 and then 1990s, in the Balkans). In other words, the work of ashkenazi thugs inclined on grabbing more land for Greater Israel. Too outlandish an explanation?
Israel has always planned to split Iraq up into smaller units, makes it easier to govern and prevent Iraq from ever becoming a threat to Israel again they are trying to create the conditions to split it.
Nice people huh?
See:http://judicial-inc.biz/Mossad_bombs__sophisticated.htm
Are the Iraqis realising they're being set up? Just as the Muslims are being set up with a fake 'war on terrorism'? To the Westeners the media sell a 'civil war' is going on in Iraq, fomented by Iran and Syria (nevermind provoked by US-UK led invasion), but it seems more than obvious the real ones to gain from a massive flight of Iraqis (already 2 mls are reported to be fleeing) are the Israelis. 'By way of deception we shalt wage war' ... on all our neighbors who have something to steal!
http://judicial-inc.biz/Israel_in_Iraq_supplement.htm#Operation%20matado...
Apparently one of the Kurdish leaders in the north of Iraq is Jewish and has close ties with Israel!
BTW Aturturk the man who secularized Turkey, gave up its gold and gave it a central bank and fiat currency was a "Donmeh" a Jew whose ancestors 'embraced' Islam. They carried out the Armenian genocide.
I think Arabs know what is going on, however they have been split up, secularized and dis-empowered to do anything. It seems pretty clear they had better unite under Islam.
The war on terror is a phony war designed to create a New World Order. I think the New World Order is dead before it has even began, the only reason it is causing so much chaos is because as yet there is no unified effort to resist it by any group. All alternatives seem just as bad or have no organizational power to unite everyone and create an alternative world order with spiritual and humane values.
... and so were the 'Young Turks' who organised the genocide of the Armenians? This is possible, but do you have solid evidence for this, it would be mighty interesting! I know about the Donmeh - Turks in Anatolia who were Jews and then conveniently became Muslims, whilst remaining secretely jewish. It is said these Donmeh are in the civil service and in the military in Turkey, which would explain the entente cordiale between Turkey and Israel.
But I think there is more to it. I believe these Donmeh are descendants of the early Seljuk Turks, who were the first around 1000 CE to invade Anatolia and begin to hack at the Byzantine Empire (the First Crusade was initially organised - nominally - to aid Byzantium in its resistance to these Seljuks, then to finish up plundering Costantinople itself ...). Now, Seljuk himself, the founder of that dynasty, was a Khazar, a military leader of the Ashina House of Khazaria. He had three sons, named Mika'il, Musa and Isra'il and so there is good reason to believe the early Seljuks were jewish converts. Look up zionist Wikipedia, under Seljuk Dynasty, they admit to this. It is quite possible that the Donmeh are descendants of the Seljuk Turks then, so it makes sense that they - as the Young Turks did - sought to ethnic clense Anatolia of the Armenians to achieve geographic unity with Turkmenistan.
Please elaborate further on the Donmeh, leftfield.
As for the Israelis amongst the Kurds, well I'm not surprised at all. The Kurds are descendants of the Medes, but there are many many Turkmen in their midsts, so the old tribal bonding is working again like with China's Uyghurs. The Iraqis should come to realize this.
Yes, the Muslims badly need to unite against the common ashkenazi invaders, cruel and cunning. But in my view it is necessary that they realize the invaders are not semitic, but turkik, and their progress is transversal with respect to religious beliefs. The Ashkenazis and Israelis have concealed allies amongst muslim Turks, donmeh Turks, christian Turks and in Iraq this includes the Turkmen amongst the kurdish population. That's why the semitic Muslims need to take distance with the turanic Muslims.
Most of all: KEEP TURKEY OUT OF THE EUROPEAN UNION!
yes that is what I am saying. The Young Turks had a strong Jewish element.
http://www.kheper.net/topics/Kabbalah/Donmeh.htm#new
http://www.islamicparty.com/
Very very interesting, leftfield!
So the Sabbateans and the Donmeh are intertwined, in a complicated mystical-yet-secular concoction of jewish elements in Turkey, ex-Ottoman Empire.
Could one say the Sabbateans are the mystical/religious branch, and the Donmeh the secular one? It is said that the non-muslim/lay character of the turkish politicians and military men since Ataturk is to be ascribed to the fact that in fact they are Donmeh.
The first question is, however, what is the ethnic composition of these Jews? Yacob Leib Frank was certainly ashkenazic/khazar, stemming out of Hungary (the name probably also stems from the ukrainian city of Ivanov Frankov and/or its distric, i.e. it's a classical ashkenazic toponym). I'm not sure about Shabbat Zevi (or Sevi), it is known that after the spanish Reconquista many Jews migrated from Spain to the Ottoman Empire, but many 'Jews' in Spain were already descendants of judaised Khazars who, after the demise of Khazaria by the kievian Rus', migrated to the only other jewish-controlled country (after Poland-Lithuania). So the ethnic composition of Turkey's Jews is a riddle, because both Sephardi and (mostly) Ashkenazi Jews would have moved there during Ottoman rule. As said in my previous comment, many apostate Seljuk Turks likely were also crypto-Jews of direct khazarian linage. It would be interesting to hear leftfield's (and others') opinions on this ethnic issue.
But I still fail to see 'evidence' that Ataturk and the Young Turks were in fact Donmeh and that the organisation of the Armenian Genocide was the work of Donmeh. Why would they have organised that ethnic clensing, what was their motivation?
Regarding the Crusades and what kind of Muslims were occupying the Holy Land at that time, I could answer my own question. The frankish Crusaders encountered BOTH turkik AND semitic Muslims in Palestine. First the Seljuks wrenched Palestine from the Byzantinians, then the Fatimids (semitic people from Tunisia) had it as part of their wast empire which included Egypt (where the Fatimids are still very favourably considered), then came the Khwarizmians (Turko-Iranians?) and finally the frankish Christian States of Outremer were wrenched from the Europeans by Saladin (Salah-el-Din) who appears to have been a Mede. It is true that holy roman emperor Frederik II obtained Jerusalem and a few other holy (for Christians) sites in Palestine through pure negotiations with 'the infidels', but evidently both the Franks and the Church of Rome wanted much more, the entire control of that crossroad region which happens to be the birthplace of the three monotheistic religions. In fact their (especially the Church of Rome's) main preoccupation was to antagonize the rival Byzantinian Empire, which already could count on the control of the lands of Rus'. Much suffering and upheaval was to be caused, in Eastern Europe and later in Western Europe too, by this fatal West-East schism of the Roman Empire - including the penetration of the asian hordes in the Western Civilization which is the ultimate source of our woes in this forum.
Why aren't the Shi'ite and Sunni Muslims learning, presently, from all this?
Another link I found today whilst trawling the internet.
http://www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_CryptoZionists.htm
Most of the questions you ask about the specif ethnicity of Jews I cannot answer I am afraid, I am not as interested in the details as you are, and seem to be in the dark about those side of things.
As for the Shia and Sunni, I do not know what is going on, many Muslims like Christians have been had, and do not know the ins and outs of the Zionists.
Anyway there is a sunni theory that shiaa ism was started by a jew called saba (if I remember correctly), as a means of splitting the Muslims, but this must have been a Jew in the very earliest days of Islam not Khazari if true. It is ironic that many of the negative characteristics ascribed to the jews in the Quran can still be found in the khazar today. Their greed, lies, extreme self-love and hatred of non Jews etc.
Not Fair! Leftfield! [heh heh]
Actually, I stumbled onto the Daryl Bradford site by accident a couple of weeks ago. I know I filed it away to look at it later but I never had the chance read in depth. It looks like a pretty good site from what I skimmed over.
As for this sunni and shia sectarian nonsense, God never intended for people to be divided, to separate, to create sects. God was against this. Makes damn good sense the reasons why. That's why God kept sending prophets. He kept trying to tell Humans to be and stay united, regardless of colour or origin. That we are all connected and all one.
There's not supposed to be all these denominations of Christianity, either, of course. None of this is what God wanted nor intended. Leave it to Humans to discrimminate and "forget".
Leave it to the zionists to create the most hateful gossip in the world: That the Prophet Mohammed is a Pedophile, among other horrific and vicious lies they spread to split people apart and cause them to hate each other.
Ellendra Jane