A NEW FORUM FOR THE AWAKE
Hey everybody, due to constant joogle censorship I was forced to move my news site from blogger to:
Then I made this too:
I was thinking how much more effective we could be if we could network and have discussions with the educated anti-zionist community. At this time no true forum exists where egos & disinfo don't play a huge role.
Come join me at my forum here, it'll take less than a minute to register. Given the amount of knowledge floating around I'm expecting this to take off.
Peace and Blessings
Khanverse




Best of Luck
Hey khanverse, looks great, and good luck with it indeed. I look forward to perusing it, but will have be sure to refrain from contributing to it until I miraculously become educated and am able to constrain my gargantuan, overweening and supercilious ego.
Only those disinterested in the contest itself (or who are easily distracted) appreciate a cheerleader; and if I've resorted to that type of activity heretofore rather than sit idly on the sidelines (as I should have-- for cheerleading has never been my true calling), so here you have my final superfluous cheer. Bravo, huzza, go man go..
uh, what?
Register
http://www.myspace.com/khanverse
I notice that you are assembling a sort of archive of the Bollyn's works on your new website. As you know, he wrote literally at least a thousand articles and items for the Spotlight, AFP, RMN, &c.
Early last year when I searched the archives of Rumor Mill News for articles written by Chris I came up with several hundreds of 'em-- today I only find two! As you know, they banned him from the site a few weeks ago without any viable cause or reason, &c., and, you might try searching it yourself w/ more success ( http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/search ), but I've long believed that site to be a sort of CIA/Mossad front anyway, and it's proprietor Rayelan is a HIGHLY suspect person.
Here's a link, however, to find at least a majority of his Spotlight items:
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/3075
Well, I did another search by author using just 'Bollyn', and it did bring up approximately 644 articles by him:
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi/index
Incidently, here's what I find posted on his site today:
NEWS - WARNING OF WAR IN MIDDLE EAST
7 March 2008
URGENT COMMUNIQUE:
Warning of War in Middle East
I received this message that the Middle East is on the verge of aggression and conflict:
It looks like they are ready to proceed in the Middle East, let's see if they can do it. Egypt, Jordan, Saudi are on Red Alert according to my sources, as well as Yemen, UAE and Kuwait...
If they start , they'll get a major surprise and the killing in the yeshiva school is just an excuse to push on Gaza and the Sinai...
Jordan and Egypt will fall the first day…
www.bollyn.com
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Truth is, the ONLY stuff he's ever written that are clearly total BS have to do with DBS and www.iamthewitness.com , imo.
I went ahead and registered if only to post these very worthwhile links to some of the Bollyn's works.
But then you have "We'll laugh at you if you blame" & 'TV fakery' listed as one of the things. TV fakery is real bro, I've posted on here about it. It's not a coincidence that every person on TV that said they saw the plane were high-up network employees or literal professional actors such as Tony Rigo & Gary Welz. & the 'filmers' all computer graphic arts & video experts. Look it up rather than being dismissive. Yeah it 'seems far fetched' on face value but there's a logical reason why they faked the planes & that's that if they used real ones the things would have burst on impact & barely punctured the buildings rather than slice all the way through 'like a hot knife through butter'.
the official collapse story as a result.
There's a logical reason why people promote hoaxes such as the "no planes" canard. The official conspiracy theory based on 19 Arabs, although false, is eminently sensible compared to the straw man of "no planes", and "cleverly placed charges" that were so cleverly placed that the resulting entry holes resembled the outline of a Boeing 767.
The planes didn't slice through "like a hot knife through butter"; they went through like aircraft colliding with a building.
It was found that about 46% of the initial kinetic energy of the aircraft was used to damage columns. The minimum impact velocity of the aircraft to just penetrate the exterior columns would be 130 m/s. It was also found that a Boeing 767 traveling at top speed would not penetrate exterior columns of the WTC if the columns were thicker than 20 mm.
Source
That peer-reviewed paper is based on a finite element analysis that took about four hours to run on a Pentium IV 2.78 GHz PC. They assume 240 m/s (537 mph) impact velocity - which is too high for the AA11 impact with WTC 1 - and also take as much as 25,370 kg as the mass of fuel in a single wing, so they have overestimated the energy just prior to impact.
Allowing for the overestimated mass, the true minimum speed required for penetration would be a little higher than 130 m/s or 291 mph. However, the aircraft were still travelling at sufficient velocity to penetrate the exterior. The official story states 466 mph for AA11 and 545 mph for UA175.
The exterior columns used steel ranging from 1/4 inch to more than two inches in thickness. At the upper floors, the columns were only 1/4 inch (about 6 mm) thick, hence the steel was incapable of stopping the incoming 133 tons of metal and fuel. But the aircraft would not have penetrated the thick steel towards the bottom of the buildings.
The remaining kinetic energy available for damaging core columns and fireproofing would have been less than implied by that study.
And given sufficient kinetic energy, mere fluids such as kerosene or water are quite capable of damaging solid structures such as buildings, as in the Asian tsunami, for example.
I used to debate a 9/11 researcher from myspace that claimed to work for Anthony Hilder on this issue, and she made the same point: 'Show me one credible person that actually saw the planes hit the towers. I've been researching this for years and I can't find one.' Since then I've met two people that have friends or relatives that actually saw the collision(s), and they're people that have no ulterior motives or interest in the issue one way or the other. A third person contacted me by email, but isn't as credible a witness, being that he was just text on a screen and may have had an agenda.
I know the no-planes theory can be tantalising, and I understand the confusion, but there were planes, and they did hit the towers.
This is all anyone who cares about the truth needs to know:
"Oh my god, the plane crashed into the building I can-not believe it" Give me a break. & then it's in another version at a different time & the guy now won't even talk about it. & this isn't even getting into the matter of Gary Welz or Tony Rigo yet.
C.O.Z. I have to say I'm even skeptical that you ever did used to debate this issue b/c that's a really convincing sounding premise for your comment that a lot of people would just accept & not question. When were you a 'no-planer' & did you ever post about it here?
how is it arrogant of me to call disinfo, disinfo?
anyway, i responded to your post on my page.
http://www.khanverse.com/phorum
If anybody can explain Dick Eastman's name inclusion in the above video, I would appreciate it.
Everything I've ever read by him re: zionism and 9/11 has been perfectly well-founded and solid, so I assume he must have criticized the film's producer or the 'no-planers' or someone, which earned him this inclusion.
I don't understand what you're saying. I'm not sure the above even makes sense.
I was never a no-planer. She was the no-planer, hence the debate.
Meanwhile your arch-enemies are laughing at you for believing in their obvious frauds & attacking potential allies over them. Here's another plane witness who just happened to be yet another PROFESSIONAL ACTOR:
This guy is not Gary Welz, his real name is Tony Rigo & he appeared in an episode of The Sopranos called "Do Not Resuscitate" in season 2. You can google it & download it if you want. Here's his profile: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0726797/ His family members admit that it's him.
I misread & thought you said that you were the no-planer & not her. Any supposed witnesses to the plane crashes should come forward & give interviews about what they saw. Most no-planers agree that something hit the buildings but what it was is up for debate b/c there has to be a reason why all the eyewitnesses that day were actors, graphic animation experts & network employees & why there are versions of the same impact videos from the same supposed sources with different audio tracks.
Pre-recorded video passed off as live on 9/11. Why? What's the motive?:
Most people agree about the Pentagon but this still gives more insight about the complexity of the op.
The no-planers postulate that a Boeing 767 carrying 10,000 gallons of fuel and travelling at 466 to 545 mph is not capable of smashing through 1/4 inch thick steel perimeter columns. However, they provide no evidence to support this claim. Perhaps the no-planers could tell us what, in their view, would be the minimum velocity required for a Boeing 767 to penetrate the Towers' exterior - e.g. 700 mph? 800 mph? - and how they arrive at their conclusion.
I don't doubt that the disinformation artists would have inserted some fake 'witnesses' of planes. Straw men 'witnesses' for a straw man conspiracy theory.
I'll concede that this Tony guy sounds like he's sensationalizing but even if he's an actor does that mean he cannot tell the truth? Lots of actors probably live in NYC-manhattan area, and maybe they are given easier access to media outlets.
Anyway this is a moot point about the first plane we're talking about.
The 2nd plane has HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of witnesses because they were all fixated on the building when the second explosion took place.
http://www.khanverse.com/phorum
I'll concede that this Tony guy sounds like he's sensationalizing but even if he's an actor does that mean he cannot tell the truth? Lots of actors probably live in NYC-manhattan area, and maybe they are given easier access to media outlets.
Anyway this is a moot point about the first plane we're talking about.
The 2nd plane has HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of witnesses because they were all fixated on the building when the second explosion took place.
http://www.khanverse.com/phorum
or network employees, look into it. The videos shown of the planes hitting the buildings were fake, whatever did hit the buildings is up or debate. Some eyewitnesses on TV who were not actors said they saw a missle, before being instructed by the reporters that actually they witnessed a plane. If anyone knows someone that witnessed either of the impacts bring them forward & have them do an interview & discuss what they saw.