You wanted it now you've got it!
This only applies to those Useful Idiots (TM) sheeple who believe everything Zionist Media Brainwashes them with.
If this law comes into effect, ALL AMERICANS beginning Jan 14, 2007 -- That's next year, in 2 months or so -- will have their freedom of movement taken away (as if it's not already severely limited).
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Think about the ramifications...
They are treating us like sheep, herding us up, readying for the slaughter.... :( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
We're All Prisoners,
Now: US Citizens to be Required ''Clearance'' to Leave USA International Politics October 26, 2006 Forget no-fly lists.
If Uncle Sam gets its way, beginning on Jan. 14, 2007, we'll all be on no-fly lists, unless the government gives us permission to leave-or re-enter-the United States.
The U.S. Department of Homeland Security (HSA) has proposed that all airlines, cruise lines-even fishing boats-be required to obtain clearance for each passenger they propose taking into or out of the United States.
It doesn't matter if you have a U.S. Passport - a "travel document" that now, absent a court order to the contrary, gives you a virtually unqualified right to enter or leave the United States, any time you want.
When the DHS system comes into effect next January, if the agency says "no" to a clearance request, or doesn't answer the request at all, you won't be permitted to enter-or leave-the United States.
Consider what might happen if you're a U.S. passport holder on assignment in a country like Saudi Arabia. Your visa is about to expire, so you board your flight back to the United States.
But wait! You can't get on, because you don't have permission from the HSA. Saudi immigration officials are on hand to escort you to a squalid detention center, where you and others who are now effectively "stateless persons" are detained, potentially indefinitely, until their immigration status is sorted out.
Why might the HSA deny you permission to leave-or enter-the United States?
No one knows, because the entire clearance procedure would be an administrative determination made secretly, with no right of appeal.
Naturally, the decision would be made without a warrant, without probable cause and without even any particular degree of suspicion.
Basically, if the HSA decides it doesn't like you, you're a prisoner - either outside, or inside, the United States, whether or not you hold a U.S. passport.
The U.S. Supreme Court has long recognized there is a constitutional right to travel internationally. Indeed, it has declared that the right to travel is "a virtually unconditional personal right." The United States has also signed treaties guaranteeing "freedom of travel."
So if these regulations do go into effect, you can expect a lengthy court battle, both nationally and internationally.
Think this can't happen? Think again.
It's ALREADY happening.
Earlier this year, HSA forbade airlines from transporting an 18-year-old a native-born U.S. citizen, back to the United States. The prohibition lasted nearly six months until it was finally lifted a few weeks ago.
Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union are two countries in recent history that didn't allow their citizens to travel abroad without permission.
If these regulations go into effect, you can add the United States to this list. For more information on this proposed regulation, see http:// hasbrouck.org/IDP/IDP-APIS-comments.pdf.
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It appears that Iran just diverted a potential WWIII by firing their Shahab3 missiles --- i.e. MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction), since the Zionist "Jews" Khazars DO NOT care about anyone but themselves.
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Iran: Missile Launch Urges US to Stop Drills
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An Iranian deputy navy chief said on Friday that the Iranian army launched three new missiles earlier during their ongoing military maneuver was a strong message for the United States to cease its military drills in the Gulf region, the state radio reported.
"I think the enemies of the Islamic Republic should stop their hostility in the Persian Gulf, and they should not make any move that could intensify the tensions in the region," Admiral. Sardar Fadavi, the deputy navy chief of Iran's Revolutionary Guards, told the radio.
The chief made the remarks when he was answering a question from the radio on whether Iran's new drill was a strong response to the previous US-led military maneuvers in the same regional, therefore he referred to the United States clearly.
On October 29, the US-led naval forces staged a two-day maneuver in the Gulf waters, claiming that it aimed at blocking smuggling of nuclear weaponry material and arms proliferation.
Some hours earlier before Fadavi's comments, Iran's Revolutionary Guards successfully fired three new models of missiles in the ongoing military exercises in the Gulf region.
The local television footage showed the missiles were fired from mobile launching carriers on the shore and from warships, and hit the targets successfully.
On Thursday, Iran also tested its ballistic Shahab-3 missiles for the first time in the military maneuvers. The medium-range missiles could reach a range of more than 2,000 km, and can cover Israel and the US military bases in the Mideast.
(Xinhua News Agency November 4, 2006)
these kind of restrictions are inevitable in what is quickly turning into a police state on steroids.
the developments on Iran can be interpreted as you have - a deterrent - or interpreted as zionists will no doubt - as provocative.
we will soon see what happens - though i'm not optimistic.
on a different note - I'm so glad to see you posting! Your input is invaluable!
bear with me, in terms of logistics - i'm still figuring this site out.
peace.
I am amazed at the idea here.
Does Homeland Security have the bureacracy in place to handle the processing and decision making that would need to be done here?
Wouldn't the cost of implementing such a bureacracy be an argument against it, even to the republicans?
Wouldn't the need to hire baby-sitters for everyone who would want to leave or come back stifle business, the repubs and dems primary backers? Wouldn't their corporate backers nix such an idea?
These are the questions I'd have. I can't imagine such a thing was serious.
Well,...I know there are a lot of other bizarre ideas that have become law.
Has this suggestion received any play elsewhere?
i think it speaks to how these people can barely see beyond their own nose.
They're so consumed with themselves, their arrogance, and their own instant gratification that they can't even recognize that all this madness is unsustainable.
The United States is one of the most fascist nations on earth. The corporate terrorists will use this to control the movement of ideas and free speech. People who thinks the United states stands for freedom are stupid dumb morons.
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Citi (group, bank, cards) etc. are liers, terrorists, and thieves who murder innocent children.
Stop the banking terrorists: use credit unions.
Of course, when it comes to not having enough resources this will be the priority order to getting people back to and from the United States:
1. Corporate Terrorists in Political Power
2. Corporate Terrorists
3. Rich white people with family ties to the corporate terrorists in powers (aka their bimbo trophy wives, children, etc).
4. Other rich white people (as long as they support the one party system)
5. The rest of the white people (as long as they support the one party system)
6. Asian minorities (as long as they support the one party system).
7. Black minorities (as long as they support the one party system)
8. Hispanic minorities (as long as they support the one party system)
9. People who don't support the one party system.
10. Middle Eastern minorities.
If you are in 9 or 10 don't expect to ever be able to leave (legally) or come back. And if you fall anywhere below 3 if you plan to go traveling overseas you better tell your boss not to expect you back for months because that is how long it will probably take to get back.
Citi (group, bank, cards) etc. are liers, terrorists, and thieves who murder innocent children.
Stop the banking terrorists: use credit unions.
If John Kerry's umpteenth flub to help the Republicans doesn't show you that our country is run by Skull and Bones and it's illuminati overlords, which some are Zionists, then people really are sheep. It really is sad. I just wish we had the secrets of Neo, Trinity, and Morpheus without all the luciferian trickery.
Jeff Well's always has Kerry pegged... Read this...
http://rigint.blogspot.com/2006/11/who-ya-gonna-call.html
I _so_ hope this insanity comes to an end someday. People will hopefully be really, really ashamed about this in retrospect. Thanks for sharing!
. . . I'm afraid.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
The good news is - after it gets a boatload worse, it might get better.
We are overdue for a Revolution,Lets get it on,and restore the America of old!!!
Perhaps the U.S. is following a previously used blueprint to restrict travel...
"Escape routes of "persons of interest" must be in effect before martial law can
be imposed. The resulting attempts to circumvent the cordon around the Reich will expose the underground resistance and allow total control of our borders."
Dr. Joseph Goebbels - 1939
In the Soviet Union, these were called "exit visas."
Perhaps the Ministry of Fatherland Security should call them "Freedom Passes."
with microchips.
i am hedging a bet that there are tens of millions of them already manufactured along with a proprietary system in in place to track us WITH them. the actual tracking system is very simple.... deviously so.
if chips ARE implemented expect travel restrictions to be imposed on those crossing state lines as well.
what do you think ezpass is for?
our convenience?
fat chance.
Like a chess game, the "pieces" are being carefully, meticulously, and in a timely fashion put into place for ... the next 9-11! The supposed travel restrictions by the DHS in January 2007 is yet another key piece in the game for when "Operation Lockdown" is initiated. No one will be allowed to travel anywhere (except for the "bad guys", of course). One of the key indicators of the next 9-11 is the stock market, which has been and is being "manipulated" for the financing of this next operation against the people of the United States. If you are "in the market", pull your funds out NOW! and don't hestitate, for you are "aiding and abetting" the true terrorists against this nation -
NOT Bin Laden and his Islamic associates - but the ones amongst ourselves who wear three-piece suits, who are flown around in Lear jets, who are chauffered in limos, who wave the flag and say the Pledge, yet spit on the graves and memories of our dead in their private closed-door board rooms. If you owe on credit cards, stop all payments, and tell the big banks to go to hell! Use your 2nd Amendment rights while you can to prepare for the ultimate "High Noon" coming soon to a neighborhood near you! Prepare!
There is a system in place already, It is the GPS system in your cellphone. every cellphone bought in the past 1 1/2 to 2 years has A chip installed that transmits your location automatically. IT CAN NOT BE SHUTOFF without removing the battery therefore making the phone useless. I Saw one of T-Mobiles test phones approximately 5 years ago and it scared the heck out of me when I realized the implications of what I had just witnessed. The system is in place over most of the continental united states now and it wont take long for them to install the chips in our bodies.
As usual loads of alarmist bullshit here - if you are denied boarding you can head to Canada or Mexico - that does not require DHS notification and from there go anywhere.
hasbrouck.org doesn't work.
but, I found this dailykos entry that has additional information along with a url for the site that first published this report.
If anyone finds additional information please, let us know.
Thanks.
Is this a bad thing? The only downside that I can see is that americans already outside of the country might not be able to get back in to the states. The keeping them in part is a damned good idea! At least until americans decide that having a president with a decent quota of braincells is more important than the amount of brush they can tackle.
Am I over generalising? Did I get out of bed on the wrong side this morning? Am I just plain stupid?
All these questions will be answered in the next thrilling installment of "Chronography's Take On America".
Thanks for bringing more attention to this--I can't believe that every "liberties" group (no matter what ideology) is not blasting this info out far and wide!! I've been trying to gather all documentation I can find on this new regulation, so I can get the word out more, but find several different accounts with conflicting information. When we look at the Federal Register where it was first posted, it appears that this is already being utilized, and that the period for public comment ends December 2. Have also found January 7th as implementation date, now later in January, here. Trying to find the official statements to which we need to be responding and posting broadly. Can anyone list references?
Of course, if there is a "revolutionary" response to this by the American people, it will be of the typical "out on the streets carrying signs and strumming guitars" kind. "Peaceful" don't cut it no more, hippie boy. These bastards are not going to respond to "nice". When and if we as Americans ever get it into our heads that we need to get militant on these motherf*&#ers, things will start changing. The Romanian people in 1989 didn't get rid of Ceacescu's sorry ass by being "nice" and holding candles and singing "Give Peace A Chance". Hell no----they got rid of his sorry ass by KILLING HIM. Sorry, but sometimes violence really IS the only way, regardless of how you "let's be nice" liberals have been indoctrinated to think otherwise. There can be no change without the exercise of our uncontrollable rage. Period.
reading this article makes me wonder is the fence that the american goverment wish to build at the US and Mexican boarder to keep Latin Americans going into the U.S. or to keep americans going out??????????
Well i guess this no fly thingy is not so bad idea..it would keep American sheeps in the pen. It should also be valid for US soldiers and US culture also. Locked and stored away. World would be a better place i guess. I am being a little sarcastic here but not far off. USA=Nazi Germany...almost there folks..sad indeed :(
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The proposed exit visa notion may be the final straw that gets US citizens flying the coop. Specifically for those with living abroad experience. Like Britain, the risk-takers leave, the risk-adverse remain. And as risk-adverse sheep are easier to manipulate, this may be the cunning plan. So forget "love it or leave it", try "hate it and leave it". Because to remain is to tacitly support the current US Administration in its immoral foreign policy. Nice country, nice people, shame about the government.
This reminds me of the Y2K panic - much ado about nothing.
The scare mongers would have you believe that Uncle Sam is now forbidding foreign travel. NOT TRUE! Maybe they're going to prohibit 10% of all citizens from travelling? NO! 1%? NO!
Figure out what you have to do to get on their "no travel" list, and then don't do it, and then relax - you'll be able to take your vacation in the Bermudas.
This reminds me of the Y2K
This reminds me of the Y2K panic - much ado about nothing.
The scare mongers would have you believe that Uncle Sam is now forbidding foreign travel. NOT TRUE! Maybe they're going to prohibit 10% of all citizens from travelling? NO! 1%? NO!
Figure out what you have to do to get on their "no travel" list, and then don't do it, and then relax - you'll be able to take your vacation in the Bermudas.
Anonymous | Tue, 2006-11-28 13:40
>>>>>>>>>>> quote: "Figure out what you have to do to get on their "no travel" list, and then don't do it, and then relax - you'll be able to take your vacation in the Bermudas.
Anonymous | Tue, 2006-11-28 13:40"
Easy just become a "jew"!
;)
cheers!
And by the way, you don't have to be a semite to be a jew, most of them AREN'T! But being 'white' is a most definite pre-requisite (and NO Ethiopian 'jews' are not considered true 'jewish' by the powerful Ashkenazi Khazars).
No Notification of DHS when going to Canada, Mexico
As usual loads of alarmist bullshit here - if you are denied boarding you can head to Canada or Mexico - that does not require DHS notification and from there go anywhere.
You are right, for now, but in 08 or maybe if we are lucky 2010 the nafta superhighway will be built the runs from mexico to canada and effectively creates a North American Union, in so far as I can see the constitution and bill of rights will become obsolete since it will no longer be the usa. srry to be the beareer of bad news. but it is true research nafta and the spp security and prosperity partnership bush signed in 05. dont shoot the messenger plz.
NO FLY....
Of course, if there is a "revolutionary" response to this by the American people, it will be of the typical "out on the streets carrying signs and strumming guitars" kind. "Peaceful" don't cut it no more, hippie boy. These bastards are not going to respond to "nice". When and if we as Americans ever get it into our heads that we need to get militant on these motherf*&#ers, things will start changing. The Romanian people in 1989 didn't get rid of Ceacescu's sorry ass by being "nice" and holding candles and singing "Give Peace A Chance". Hell no----they got rid of his sorry ass by KILLING HIM. Sorry, but sometimes violence really IS the only way, regardless of how you "let's be nice" liberals have been indoctrinated to think otherwise. There can be no change without the exercise of our uncontrollable rage. Period.
again srry to be bearer of bad news but, (Keep in mind this is prolly the only way to stop it) unfortunatly if you go all out revoloution they will declare a national emergency and will declare martial law, as bush gave himself the power to do so with the military commisions act of 2006, and then go read what the Patriot act says about who is a terrorist and what exactly they define terrorism as. a revoloution is exactly what they want, again tho' it is probably the only way. so the way I see it either take up arms or get the f out while you still can, if you still can. cuz i guarantee you that anyone who is looking at shit like this website will NOT, NOT, be allowed to leave the usa by any means. srry.
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Eat it! We can and Will fix this mess WITHOUT all this strife you speak of. Barbaric reactions are JUST what you want i think. You Zion crazy nutters just don't get it. Your GAME is not working this time. We will starve you out. Expose your veil covered heads and show the WHOLE world just WHO needs reeducation and jail time to think about there crimes. I bet All you criminals would like to have a nice big confusing event to allow your escape. We refuse. You are just going to have to make due with FAR less money. We do not need to kill. Killing is ALWAYS Wrong. No exceptions. Far and Wide is OUR land. Far and Wide is the extent we will look. Jail time,reflection and Reperations will be your fate.
First you take D.C. Then you take New York.