Brief overview of CIA interventions 1953-1989 (2:15)
I applaud heroic Iranian effort to crush the insidious foreign network of saboteurs as a matter of national defense against foreign covert terrorism. The creature caught red-handed is American, though it may be with Israeli assistance in some assigned covers as Mossad is known to cooperate with Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to interfere in Middle Eastern and Central Asian affairs. It's apparent CIA hunger for revenge after U.S. was kicked out of Iran in the aftermath of 1979 Revolution arising from the nationalist outrage at U.S.'s coddling the ill dictator Shah by providing medical treatment upon Shah's arrival in U.S., which provided the opportunity for Ruhollah Khomeini to return from exile to become the first Supreme Leader in a newly formed theocractic government after overthrow of the corrupt and despotic secular government was achieved. Iran busts CIA terror network Tehran Times Political Desk May 18, 2008 TEHRAN - The Intelligence Ministry on Saturday released details of the detection and dismantling of a terrorist network affiliated to the United States. In a coordinated operation on May 7, Iranian intelligence agents arrested the terrorist network’s members, who were identified in Fars, Khuzestan, Gilan, West Azerbaijan, and Tehran provinces, the Intelligence Ministry announcement said. The group’s plans were devised in the U.S., according to the announcement, which added that they had planned to carry out a number of acts such as bombing scientific, educational, and religious centers, shooting people, and making public places in various cities insecure. One of the terrorists was killed in the operation, but the rest are in detention, the Intelligence Ministry said, adding that the group’s main objective was to create fear among the people. The United States Central Intelligence Agency comprehensively supported the terrorist group by arming it, training its members, and sponsoring its inhumane activities in Iran, the Intelligence Ministry stated. The terrorists had maps, films, pictures, and sketches of important and sensitive sites in various cities in their possession when they were arrested. They also had a large number of weapons and ammunition and a great deal of highly explosive chemicals and cyanide. The blast at a religious center in Shiraz last month was carried out by this group, and it also had plans to carry out similar attacks on the Tehran International Book Fair, the Russian Consulate in Gilan Province, oil pipelines in southern Iran, and other targets, the communiqué stated. Thirteen people were killed and over 190 others wounded in a bombing carried out on April 12 at the Rahpuyan-e Vessal religious center, which is part of the Seyyed-ul-Shohada Mosque complex, located in a residential area of Shiraz. ________________ What do CIA do? Murder, sabotage, subversion and covert warfare, not just espionage as CIA is famous for. When, in late 1950's, asked a peculiar question in a televised interview (not certain of the accuracy of source), former President Harry Truman, who had dealt contentiously with the formation of the organization after the conclusion of WWII, said with candor: "I never would have agreed to the formulation of the Central Intelligence Agency back in forty-seven, if I had known it would become the American Gestapo." I believe CIA was definitely behind the assassination of President Kennedy and 1968 Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy. May very well have been involved in the attempt to kill Ted Kennedy by drugging him to drive the vehicle intoxicated to dive off into the water that drowned his female companion in Chappaquiddick incident in Massachuscetts. Somehow Ted escaped as a survivor, with a tarnished reputation as a framed man that continue to haunt him (he tried to run for Democratic Presidential nomination in 1980 but failed). CIA truly hated the Kennedys. Late thug spook E. Howard Hunt, one of the conspirators of JFK murder as a self-proclaimed "benchwarmer", consider himself a 'patriot' (as in ultranationalist conservative in hyper-patriotism) and hated the Kennedy family with such a furious passion that he wanted the whole family terminated to eliminate the liberal American dynasty as potentially antagonistic towards the ruling Elite's prime objectives. Over the last six decades since its formation after previous incarnation as Office of Strategic Services created during WWII, CIA is estimated to have killed as many as six or seven million human beings - casualty count of the indigenous peoples in the Vietnam War included - directly and indirectly, through frequent intervention by sabotage and black op terror attacks & propaganda and overthrowing democratically-elected foreign governments that do not mesh with U.S. interests in trade and American-centered hegemony, especially in West Europe (Operation Gladio) and Central & South America. CIA is plain evil, no question about it. I congratulate Iran in crushing the terror network, because Imperial America have demostrated time and again its utter hypocrisy on the importance of human rights and democracy -- which is all bullshit talk while doing the complete opposite in carrying out torture (rendition), extrajudicial assassination, drug smuggling for black op funding, etc that would be a serious violation of U.S. and international law, yet CIA is the exception to the rule of law anywhere in the world, even in the U.S. In other words, it is an outlaw organization formed to serve U.S. corporate interests, the legalized organized crime as a Mob Infrastructure blessed and sanctioned by U.S. government (executive & state, justice and defense departments) as long as CIA consent in agreement with the executive decisions, unlike JFK which CIA had the history of clear animosity in relationship after JFK refused to order the assistance of U.S. Armed Forces to cover the assault on post-revolution Cuba in failed Bay of Pigs invasion -- which JFK meekly consented to under considerable pressure by senior CIA staff and had to admit it on the air in a televised broadcast to explain the embarrassing blur of judgment. Unlike yellow-gutted cowards Commander in Chief George W Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, both of which revel in delusions of grandeur by the vigorious denial of reality that do not mold to their narrow view of the Neoconservative utopia. Wonder no more about George H.W. Bush (who later became a Vice President under Reagan '81-89 and elected 41st President 1989-1993) who briefly served a stint as a CIA director in the mid-70's and was said to have the knowledge of JFK & RFK conspiracies, likely a co-conspiracer himself as an alumni of The Order of Skulls & Bones secret society at Yale University -- because he's a member of the ruling Elite oligarchy with the degree of disdain towards the American concept of truth, liberty and accountability in the transparency of Government. There is a high probability of political assassination on future presidents who do not merely refuse to acquiesce to the unreasonable and immoral requests of the military-industrial-Congressional complex but challenge the organized power complex, just as CIA have done to JFK to show who is the boss to those in the know in the body of Government. CIA is the instrument of international tyranny that callously disregard U.S.'s Constitutionally-bound rule of sovereign and national security interest alongside freedom-hating Fascist domestic organizations Department of Homeland Security directed by a traitorous Israel-American Zionist dual citizen Michael Chertoff, DEA, ATFE and FBI. The depraved crimes of the CIA in the facilitation of American Imperialism is extricably linked to the rise of global anti-Americanism which I understand, nay, empathize with, as such is the case with Iranian indignation at American meddling with Iranian affairs in undermining the revolutionary regime that continue to feel the traumatized effect of oppression under the brutal pluto-autocrat Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, Shah of Iran. When CIA simply stop meddling in interfering with foreign states to commit terrorism, sabotage and overthrow by policy change (unlikely) or dissolution (ditto), anti-American attitude will simmer. Yet U.S. government, under past and present presidential administrations, has proven to be such an arrogant superpower that it believes itself to be so supreme as to become invincible like evil Superman carrying out the dirty deeds as an international hit man. And after the tragic saga of the Kennedy brothers, it's a safe bet CIA continue to operate as an organized mob that do not just spy to protect American welfare, sovereignty and national security by furnishing reliable and truthful intelligence but engage in covert terrorism as a matter of policy to effect "regime change," regardless of subverted nations' free and fair democratic process. CIA is guilty of entangling with brutal dictatorial regimes, as they did with the assisted funding and intelligence in the attempt to install then ally turned adversary Saddam Hussein in the 60's and 70's. As the crimes of CIA pile on, it become the burden of consequence that effect not only the American government in policy and operation but also the American people as volunarily enslaved and fleeced taxpayers that do not consent to fund CIA's perverse and idiotically regressive plans in policy, official and secret. This is called blowback, discussed in depth by Chalmers Johnson in his 2000 best-seller. Fuck with Islamic Republic of Iran again and there will be a blowback -- so major in gargantuan FUBAR (US military speak for Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition) it will decide the fate of the United States as a dying empire with undemocratic monetary policy in depreciating dollar value, corrupt & bloatedly ineffective government and protracted wars based on stupid and egocentric policies. Non-interventionist policy will truly benefit America that will speedily recover from the pain and agony of illogical wars and hemmoraging money sunk into the defense budget to uphold and maintain the Imperial U.S. Empire, but unfortunately, that will never happen as long as the mainstream media -- Internet, radio, newsprint and television -- remain corrupted and subservient (Operation Mockingbird a nefarious example). Eliminate CIA, splinter overbearingly bureaucratic and fascist programs, prosecute 'prominent' persons of interest for treason (Zionist and Israel-American dual citizens with proven disloyalty to America) and expulse subversive foreign lobbying organizations (Israel, Saudi, etc) to institute a transparent, responsible and accountable government, and America will recover its spiritual fire of of liberty. Exactly what John Quincy Adams philosophized as follows: "...FRIENDS AND COUNTRYMEN, if the wise and learned philosophers of the elder world, the first observers of nutation and aberration, the discoverers of maddening ether and invisible planets, the inventors of Congreve rockets and Shrapnel shells, should find their hearts disposed to enquire what has America done for the benefit of mankind? Let our answer be this: America, with the same voice which spoke herself into existence as a nation, proclaimed to mankind the inextinguishable rights of human nature, and the only lawful foundations of government. America, in the assembly of nations, since her admission among them, has invariably, though often fruitlessly, held forth to them the hand of honest friendship, of equal freedom, of generous reciprocity. She has uniformly spoken among them, though often to heedless and often to disdainful ears, the language of equal liberty, of equal justice, and of equal rights. She has, in the lapse of nearly half a century, without a single exception, respected the independence of other nations while asserting and maintaining her own. She has abstained from interference in the concerns of others, even when conflict has been for principles to which she clings, as to the last vital drop that visits the heart. She has seen that probably for centuries to come, all the contests of that Aceldama the European world, will be contests of inveterate power, and emerging right. Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example. She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom. The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force... She might become the dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit... [America’s] glory is not dominion, but liberty. Her march is the march of the mind. She has a spear and a shield: but the motto upon her shield is, Freedom, Independence, Peace. This has been her Declaration: this has been, as far as her necessary intercourse with the rest of mankind would permit, her practice." I have discussed CIA at length, and you know how much I despise the organization as completely selfish and immoral without redemption. CIA has been involved in joint operations with Mossad and MI-6 in the past as part of the vast allied intelligence network. Probably now in Iran and Iraq with Mossad's (mercs and agents) murder spree of innocent Iraqi & Iranian civilians and officials in destructive vehicle and building bombing runs. The subject of Mossad, that's for another time. 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I applaud heroic Iranian effort to crush the insidious foreign network of saboteurs as a matter of national defense against foreign covert terrorism.
The creature caught red-handed is American, though it may be with Israeli assistance in some assigned covers as Mossad is known to cooperate with Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to interfere in Middle Eastern and Central Asian affairs. It's apparent CIA hunger for revenge after U.S. was kicked out of Iran in the aftermath of 1979 Revolution arising from the nationalist outrage at U.S.'s coddling the ill dictator Shah by providing medical treatment upon Shah's arrival in U.S., which provided the opportunity for Ruhollah Khomeini to return from exile to become the first Supreme Leader in a newly formed theocractic government after overthrow of the corrupt and despotic secular government was achieved.
May 18, 2008
In a coordinated operation on May 7, Iranian intelligence agents arrested the terrorist network’s members, who were identified in Fars, Khuzestan, Gilan, West Azerbaijan, and Tehran provinces, the Intelligence Ministry announcement said. The group’s plans were devised in the U.S., according to the announcement, which added that they had planned to carry out a number of acts such as bombing scientific, educational, and religious centers, shooting people, and making public places in various cities insecure. One of the terrorists was killed in the operation, but the rest are in detention, the Intelligence Ministry said, adding that the group’s main objective was to create fear among the people. The United States Central Intelligence Agency comprehensively supported the terrorist group by arming it, training its members, and sponsoring its inhumane activities in Iran, the Intelligence Ministry stated. The terrorists had maps, films, pictures, and sketches of important and sensitive sites in various cities in their possession when they were arrested. They also had a large number of weapons and ammunition and a great deal of highly explosive chemicals and cyanide. The blast at a religious center in Shiraz last month was carried out by this group, and it also had plans to carry out similar attacks on the Tehran International Book Fair, the Russian Consulate in Gilan Province, oil pipelines in southern Iran, and other targets, the communiqué stated. Thirteen people were killed and over 190 others wounded in a bombing carried out on April 12 at the Rahpuyan-e Vessal religious center, which is part of the Seyyed-ul-Shohada Mosque complex, located in a residential area of Shiraz.
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What do CIA do? Murder, sabotage, subversion and covert warfare, not just espionage as CIA is famous for.
When, in late 1950's, asked a peculiar question in a televised interview (not certain of the accuracy of source), former President Harry Truman, who had dealt contentiously with the formation of the organization after the conclusion of WWII, said with candor:
"I never would have agreed to the formulation of the Central Intelligence Agency back in forty-seven, if I had known it would become the American Gestapo."
I believe CIA was definitely behind the assassination of President Kennedy and 1968 Democratic presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy. May very well have been involved in the attempt to kill Ted Kennedy by drugging him to drive the vehicle intoxicated to dive off into the water that drowned his female companion in Chappaquiddick incident in Massachuscetts. Somehow Ted escaped as a survivor, with a tarnished reputation as a framed man that continue to haunt him (he tried to run for Democratic Presidential nomination in 1980 but failed).
CIA truly hated the Kennedys. Late thug spook E. Howard Hunt, one of the conspirators of JFK murder as a self-proclaimed "benchwarmer", consider himself a 'patriot' (as in ultranationalist conservative in hyper-patriotism) and hated the Kennedy family with such a furious passion that he wanted the whole family terminated to eliminate the liberal American dynasty as potentially antagonistic towards the ruling Elite's prime objectives.
Over the last six decades since its formation after previous incarnation as Office of Strategic Services created during WWII, CIA is estimated to have killed as many as six or seven million human beings - casualty count of the indigenous peoples in the Vietnam War included - directly and indirectly, through frequent intervention by sabotage and black op terror attacks & propaganda and overthrowing democratically-elected foreign governments that do not mesh with U.S. interests in trade and American-centered hegemony, especially in West Europe (Operation Gladio) and Central & South America.
CIA is plain evil, no question about it. I congratulate Iran in crushing the terror network, because Imperial America have demostrated time and again its utter hypocrisy on the importance of human rights and democracy -- which is all bullshit talk while doing the complete opposite in carrying out torture (rendition), extrajudicial assassination, drug smuggling for black op funding, etc that would be a serious violation of U.S. and international law, yet CIA is the exception to the rule of law anywhere in the world, even in the U.S.
In other words, it is an outlaw organization formed to serve U.S. corporate interests, the legalized organized crime as a Mob Infrastructure blessed and sanctioned by U.S. government (executive & state, justice and defense departments) as long as CIA consent in agreement with the executive decisions, unlike JFK which CIA had the history of clear animosity in relationship after JFK refused to order the assistance of U.S. Armed Forces to cover the assault on post-revolution Cuba in failed Bay of Pigs invasion -- which JFK meekly consented to under considerable pressure by senior CIA staff and had to admit it on the air in a televised broadcast to explain the embarrassing blur of judgment. Unlike yellow-gutted cowards Commander in Chief George W Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney, both of which revel in delusions of grandeur by the vigorious denial of reality that do not mold to their narrow view of the Neoconservative utopia.
Wonder no more about George H.W. Bush (who later became a Vice President under Reagan '81-89 and elected 41st President 1989-1993) who briefly served a stint as a CIA director in the mid-70's and was said to have the knowledge of JFK & RFK conspiracies, likely a co-conspiracer himself as an alumni of The Order of Skulls & Bones secret society at Yale University -- because he's a member of the ruling Elite oligarchy with the degree of disdain towards the American concept of truth, liberty and accountability in the transparency of Government.
There is a high probability of political assassination on future presidents who do not merely refuse to acquiesce to the unreasonable and immoral requests of the military-industrial-Congressional complex but challenge the organized power complex, just as CIA have done to JFK to show who is the boss to those in the know in the body of Government.
CIA is the instrument of international tyranny that callously disregard U.S.'s Constitutionally-bound rule of sovereign and national security interest alongside freedom-hating Fascist domestic organizations Department of Homeland Security directed by a traitorous Israel-American Zionist dual citizen Michael Chertoff, DEA, ATFE and FBI.
The depraved crimes of the CIA in the facilitation of American Imperialism is extricably linked to the rise of global anti-Americanism which I understand, nay, empathize with, as such is the case with Iranian indignation at American meddling with Iranian affairs in undermining the revolutionary regime that continue to feel the traumatized effect of oppression under the brutal pluto-autocrat Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, Shah of Iran.
When CIA simply stop meddling in interfering with foreign states to commit terrorism, sabotage and overthrow by policy change (unlikely) or dissolution (ditto), anti-American attitude will simmer.
Yet U.S. government, under past and present presidential administrations, has proven to be such an arrogant superpower that it believes itself to be so supreme as to become invincible like evil Superman carrying out the dirty deeds as an international hit man. And after the tragic saga of the Kennedy brothers, it's a safe bet CIA continue to operate as an organized mob that do not just spy to protect American welfare, sovereignty and national security by furnishing reliable and truthful intelligence but engage in covert terrorism as a matter of policy to effect "regime change," regardless of subverted nations' free and fair democratic process. CIA is guilty of entangling with brutal dictatorial regimes, as they did with the assisted funding and intelligence in the attempt to install then ally turned adversary Saddam Hussein in the 60's and 70's.
As the crimes of CIA pile on, it become the burden of consequence that effect not only the American government in policy and operation but also the American people as volunarily enslaved and fleeced taxpayers that do not consent to fund CIA's perverse and idiotically regressive plans in policy, official and secret. This is called blowback, discussed in depth by Chalmers Johnson in his 2000 best-seller.
Fuck with Islamic Republic of Iran again and there will be a blowback -- so major in gargantuan FUBAR (US military speak for Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition) it will decide the fate of the United States as a dying empire with undemocratic monetary policy in depreciating dollar value, corrupt & bloatedly ineffective government and protracted wars based on stupid and egocentric policies.
Non-interventionist policy will truly benefit America that will speedily recover from the pain and agony of illogical wars and hemmoraging money sunk into the defense budget to uphold and maintain the Imperial U.S. Empire, but unfortunately, that will never happen as long as the mainstream media -- Internet, radio, newsprint and television -- remain corrupted and subservient (Operation Mockingbird a nefarious example).
Eliminate CIA, splinter overbearingly bureaucratic and fascist programs, prosecute 'prominent' persons of interest for treason (Zionist and Israel-American dual citizens with proven disloyalty to America) and expulse subversive foreign lobbying organizations (Israel, Saudi, etc) to institute a transparent, responsible and accountable government, and America will recover its spiritual fire of of liberty. Exactly what John Quincy Adams philosophized as follows:
"...FRIENDS AND COUNTRYMEN, if the wise and learned philosophers of the elder world, the first observers of nutation and aberration, the discoverers of maddening ether and invisible planets, the inventors of Congreve rockets and Shrapnel shells, should find their hearts disposed to enquire what has America done for the benefit of mankind?
Let our answer be this: America, with the same voice which spoke herself into existence as a nation, proclaimed to mankind the inextinguishable rights of human nature, and the only lawful foundations of government. America, in the assembly of nations, since her admission among them, has invariably, though often fruitlessly, held forth to them the hand of honest friendship, of equal freedom, of generous reciprocity.
She has uniformly spoken among them, though often to heedless and often to disdainful ears, the language of equal liberty, of equal justice, and of equal rights.
She has, in the lapse of nearly half a century, without a single exception, respected the independence of other nations while asserting and maintaining her own.
She has abstained from interference in the concerns of others, even when conflict has been for principles to which she clings, as to the last vital drop that visits the heart.
She has seen that probably for centuries to come, all the contests of that Aceldama the European world, will be contests of inveterate power, and emerging right.
Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be.
But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy.
She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all.
She is the champion and vindicator only of her own.
She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example.
She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom.
The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force...
She might become the dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit...
[America’s] glory is not dominion, but liberty. Her march is the march of the mind. She has a spear and a shield: but the motto upon her shield is, Freedom, Independence, Peace. This has been her Declaration: this has been, as far as her necessary intercourse with the rest of mankind would permit, her practice."
I have discussed CIA at length, and you know how much I despise the organization as completely selfish and immoral without redemption.
CIA has been involved in joint operations with Mossad and MI-6 in the past as part of the vast allied intelligence network. Probably now in Iran and Iraq with Mossad's (mercs and agents) murder spree of innocent Iraqi & Iranian civilians and officials in destructive vehicle and building bombing runs.
The subject of Mossad, that's for another time.
Here's the 5mb .flv file, if you're interested.
Thinking about this CIA black op, it reminds me of Crystal Night which was ALSO a black op, committed by Communist agents (probably some or many Jewish) within and outside Germany (see Ingrid Weckert's Flashpoint!)
Additionally, while Judicial Inc used to try and imply that Mahmoud was Zionist or Zio-compliant, I disagree. The CIA and Jewry would never be bent on the destruction of a Zio-compliant or Zio-friendly regime. A house divided against itself cannot stand. It makes MORE SENSE that Mahmoud's regime must be removed in order to put a Zio-compliant leader and regime in there, just as was done in Germany some 65 years ago. Again, Zionist-controlled America and Britain would not have taken down a Zio-friendly regime then, and the same principle applies today.
This then makes me wonder how some people can cheer for, and believe in, Hezbollah, since it is responsible (whether intentionally or not) for the near-complete destruction of Lebanon and the deaths of many thousands (recently). Why don't they blame and condemn Hezbollah for allowing this to happen, for not doing everything in their power to maintain peace? These people that cheer Nasrallah and Hezbollah condemn the NS Germans. Why? I fail to see a fundamental difference between the two, other than the Germans being capable of seeking the enemy outside their national boundaries and thwarting a massive invasion of some 183 Soviet divisions amassed for offensive war in Poland (see Hoffmann's Stalin's War of Extermination and Suvorov's Icebreaker). If Hezbollah had had the ability to cross into Israel and slap it there, or in Jordan (a Zio-friendly state), would that have been worse or somehow condemnable? I certainly don't think so.
If Mahmoud gets attacked, it's America's fault, not his. Who really cares if he wants nuclear weapons...it's an insurance policy against Zionist bullying and invasion. That is NOT a legitimate reason to wage war. It will be an unjust war, unlike Hezbollah's just war.
Lastly, Iran sells Israel oil. So, in a way, Mahmoud could be seen to be possibly financing his own future demise and the destruction of his people. Yet, there is a lot of support for Mahmoud too. (I like him and think he has anti-Zionist intentions myself).
Furthermore, who's funding Iran's regime? Which banks, and who controls them? Does it really matter in the first place? I happen to think the banksters only care about money, not necessarily who it comes from or for what intents and purposes. They are that unscrupulous.
Lastly, some people on here are saying that the fact that history books and the Jewish media are so against the "Nazis", well, that implies that they are really for the Nazis (these people think Nazis are pro-Jewish, etc.). If that's the case, then we may apply that same inanity to Mahmoud and Hezbollah--the media and books are only portraying them as staunchly anti-Israel in order to trick us into supporting them (Mahmoud and Hezbollah that is). This is nuts and makes no sense to me. Why would Jewry or the Zionist movement do that? How does it serve their interests? They would want us against them, not for them.
Now you're spamming again.
..just don't call me a bigot, or you'll get the same back.
..that last paragraph leaves me wondering though..
nothing wholesome or legitimate ever requires secrecy.
The CIA - and every other covert "intelligence" agency around the world - is nothing more than the official arm of corporate mobsters.
The sooner Americans realize this and dismantle this God-forsaken organization, the sooner life on earth can begin healing.
As for EOWN's comment:
This then makes me wonder how some people can cheer for, and believe in, Hezbollah, since it is responsible (whether intentionally or not) for the near-complete destruction of Lebanon and the deaths of many thousands (recently).
Hizbullah is not responsible for the destruction of Lebanon - israel is. You cannot unintentionally be responsible for someone else's intentional act.
They may have given israelis the excuse they needed, but the destruction and the blame lies wholly at israel's feet.
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"Money" has no value - people do.
Hizbullah's entire existence is to RESIST the israeli occupation and agression, how could they be responsible FOR IT?
They have not nearly reached the point to which the nazi regime went, and why always nazi nazi nazi? howabout corporate fascism, hypocrisy, folly, beast system, suckers.
With enough prodding, genocide and continual attacks, who knows! Maybe Hizb. and the various Arab armies will take back Palestine! I just hope it doesn't play right into those bastard banker's hands!
Some comments leave me scratching my head, and wondering WTF though; as to the intention. Sorry i missed that Qrs, i already addressed it on an identical post.
Some of EOWM's conjectural deductions are flat-out ridiculous. Might be an agent provocateur dispensing information with contrivances, like blaming Hezbollah for causing Lebanese problems.
EOWM, Hezbollah as a resistance movement was formed in response to Israel's 1982 invasion. That's the basis of Hezbollah's existence to defend Lebanon from the murderous activities of Zionist Israel. Israel staged the provocation to invade south Lebanon again in 2006.
WUFYS is meant as the forum for truth-seekers, not to foster deceptive propaganda that make ignorant people automatically assume "tin foil wearing conspiracy theorists," as they love to smear us.
I develop my conjectures not out of desire for disinfo to satisfy ego but simply to seek nothing but the whole truth in this world full of lies promoted by the corrupt Government and cowardly pliant Media.
I have made my position clear.
You wrote, “This then makes me wonder how some people can cheer for, and believe in, Hezbollah, since Hezbollah is responsible (whether intentionally or not) for the near-complete destruction of Lebanon and the deaths of many thousands (recently).”
COMMENT:
I often criticize people who defend Jewish lies about World War II Germany, but you apparently defend Jewish lies about Hezbollah.
Let’s examine this...
zionists claim that Hezbollah crossed the Lebanese “border” into israeli territory and abducted two Israeli soldiers, thus triggering israel’s “defensive” attack on Lebanon. (I say, “border” because israelis refuse to formally declare any national border.)
Hezbollah says the opposite: on 12 July 2006, two israeli armored Humvees crossed into Lebanese territory and lost two Jewish soldiers (captured) near the Lebanese town of Aitaa al-Chaab. The israelis used this humiliation as an excuse to launch collective punishment on all of Lebanon. They ruined Lebanon's beaches and tourist industry, wiped out its infrastructures, and mass-murdered civilians.
Shall we believe zionist Jews, who are incapable of telling the truth, or shall we believe Hezbollah?
The israelis had been planning to launch their destruction of all Lebanon for at least a year, with help from the Bush regime, which wanted to study how the Jews dealt with bunkers and multi-story buildings. (Hence the USA asked the Jews to drop that bomb on the building at Qana, killing all those handicapped children.)
Indeed, when the first israeli patrol entered Lebanon, most of the world’s media (including Israeli media) reported the truth. Very quickly, however, the Western media (owned by zionist Jews) reversed the story, and claimed that Hezbollah entered Israeli territory.
The world quickly accepted the Jewish version, just as the world accepted the Jewish version of World War II Germany.
Today, Jews refer to their lie-filled version as the “Zar'it-Shtula incident.” They give an israeli name to it in order to engrave their lies into the minds of the stupid Goyim.
Here are some examples of what the Jewish media said on the first day, before they were “corrected” by israeli censors…
“Following the attack on the Hummers, Hizbullah terrorists crossed the border into israel. The body of one IDF soldier was inside Lebanese territory, causing IDF officials to believe the terrorists attempted to abduct him as well. (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3274650,00.html )
"The capture of two israeli soldiers by Hizbullah in southern Lebanon was an act of war, israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Wednesday." ~~Cybercast News Service (CNSNews.com) 12 July 2006.
"israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev said, "It is very clear that the escalation started on the Lebanese side of the border, and israel will respond appropriately." ~~ Voice of America / Jerusalem, 12 July 06.
“Hassan Nasrallah said the timing of the capture of two israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon would boost the position of Palestinians in Gaza." ~~Jerusalem Post 12 July 06.
Meanwhile in the USA, the truth was also reported at first, but was quickly "corrected."
Example:
On 12 July 2006 at 5:41 am New York time, Joseph Panossian of the Associated Press wrote: "Hezbollah captured two israeli soldiers during clashes in southern Lebanon, prompting a swift reaction from israel, which sent ground forces into Lebanon to look for them." Eighty minutes later, Panossian wrote: "Hezbollah captured two israeli soldiers during clashes along the Lebanese border." A few hours after that, Panossian completely shifted location: "Hezbollah militants crossed into israel and captured two Israeli soldiers.”
It may seem childish for zionist Jews to continually claim that “Hezbollah started it by crossing the border,” but such lies are vital in all areas if Jews are to avoid being exposed for what they are.
The lies are also vital if Jews are to keep extorting money from the filthy Goyim via the holo-hoax and other means...
After Hezbollah defeated israel (a second time), a team of israeli lawyers sued the Lebanese “government” for “starting” the war. The zio-creeps said Lebanon was “responsible” because Hezbollah crossed into israeli territory. The case was filed in US civil court, and sought compensation from Lebanese citizens in the USA for damages incurred by israeli residents and businesses as a result of israel’s attack.
MY POINT is that I don’t agree that Hezbollah is “responsible” for zionist aggression.
I do agree that the West is responsible for its enslavement to Jews, but Hezbollah is different.
They defeated the bastards.
Twice.
Not that I am doubting you, but this borders on the unbelievable. I suppose that's why the word Chutzpah was dreamed up, to describe an extreme level of audacity that beggars belief. Does literally everything boil down to money for these people?
Tell me it's been covered by some1! Lying effin' bastards worship money!
The israelis filed their lawsuit in the USA because Lebanese people do business with the USA and maintain property in the USA.
The israelis claimed their target was the Lebanese government. However, since “Lebanese government” means the pro-zionist March 14 alliance, I presume the real target was Lebanese people in the USA that are not connected with the alliance.
Lead attorney Attorney Yehudah Talmon said, “We intend to sue other bodies as well. No group associated in any way, shape, or form with Hizbullah is immune to these claims.”
More details here…
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3278932,00.html
EXACTLY! All of you have hit the nail on the head. Israel is GUILTY JUST LIKE AMERICA AND BRITAIN WERE GUILTY FOR DESTROYING GERMANY IN 1945. My point was that if you people are going to argue that Hitler got Germany destroyed, and all those Germans killed, then you must do the same thing regarding Hezbollah; otherwise, you're a bigot.
ShootingSparks or Grim (one of you) specifically attempted to argue that because the Jewish media portrays Hitler as 'against Jews' we may somehow conclude from that that Hitler was Zionist and pro-Jewish; in other words, Grim or SS claims that Hitler was REALLY Zionist and pro-Jew. Bullshyt! Instead of calling me an agent, look at your own arguments. All of you. You too Nepos. You cheer Hezbollah and condemn Nazis.
Tell me now WTF the difference is or was? After all, Hezbollah doing what it did (which I agree was the right thing to do) got Lebanon attacked and reinforced Jewish defensive vigor. It even inadvertently solidified American support (from the Christian Zionists and all) because, to these idiots, Hezbollah are "terrorists." Why is this so unclear to all of you? Why is my argument not making sense?
Perhaps a ratio will help:
Hezbollah is to Nazis (Hez : Nazis)
as (::)
Israel is to America and Britain (in WWII) (Israel : America and Britain)
Is this more CLEAR now?
I was trying to make a point and ya'll went batty like I was trying to defend the desert vermin. NO! Read it again. You cannot condemn the Nazis if you are not also going to condemn Hezbollah, GRIM and SS. Otherwise, you're a bigot.
Because, you would be saying that it's okay for some to defend their state against Jews (Hez) but not others (Nazis). I am sick and fucking tired of you guys bashing the Nazis. Piss off. They weren't fucking Zionists and they weren't Jews. Is that CLEAR?
Stalin had a Jewish-run gov't. The Nazis almost destroyed it. They would have won the war and secured Europe from that shyt if the God-damned Allies had not been ZIONISTS and ruined the German cause with their lies and unwarranted involvement in that war. And Grim, you asked me how the Nazis were any different from the American shyt running our nation today. Night and day! Start reading up on it for fuck's sake. I ask you how you can honestly say that the Nazis were any different from Hezbollah. You look to Condit's bullshyt like he's "God" and ignore what revisionist researchers like Faurisson and others have said about the Nazis after YEARS of research and nearly being killed (Faurisson was nearly beaten to death). He rejects the neo-skinhead assholes just like I do. Those aren't Nazis. The so-called American Nazi Party is run by a Jew named Bill White. Get a clue. Only in America!
The Germans wanted the Jews the fuck out just like the Mid East wants them the fuck out. Problem is no one wants em! That is THE problem...of the entire world. No one wants these people. THAT is why most of them ended up in Palestine...it was the ONLY place to put them. The Germans acting in their own self-interest let them go there. But, as the Mufti's diary indicates (if it's genuine), Himmler promised him that he would help with yet another Jewish relocation once Germany won the war. That is why Husseini supported the Germans. He could trust them to do this. But they lost. Thus, Jews stayed. And as a matter of fact, the greatest emigration from Europe to Palestine occurred AFTER the war ended: under American and British auspices.
So, all of you take your attacks on Nazism, and shove em. I am fucking tired of it. You either accept my findings or buzz the fuck off and stop attacking me and deriding Hitler and the Nazis in response to my posts; about how "evil" or "Zionist" they were. They WERE NOT.
Grim, comparing the Nazis and Hitler to either Jews or American Yanks is like comparing shyt to a cloud. The Americans and Jews are the shyt and the Nazis the cloud. Take your Condit bullshyt and keep it to YOURSELF.
For AZ: I'm a bit surprised you didn't follow my logic. Grim 'not following' I can see, because he thinks Hitler was Jewish, but you I can't see not 'getting it.'
They were never overtly offensive tawards anyone. i'm starting to not be able to read your posts. Get the hint, we see more than just the fascists in your mind.
As for the very interesting article about the greedy zoo lawyers that AZ linked, it's a complete joke how they think that money paid by the VICTIMS, puppets or otherwise; will somehow be just compensation to those in occupied Palestine whose business was damaged or disrupted; by THEIR FALSE-FLAG, LYING MF ZOO REGIME.
quote from article: Aren't Lebanese citizens likely to adopt the idea and sue the Israeli government for causing massive damages to them?
"In my opinion, the Lebanese need to sue their own government, but the courts will decide."
A zoodicial court, no doubt. mr yehoo TALMUD and all the greedy, lying MF snakes in the grass like you: GO-TO-HELL-FOREVER.
"EOWM, Hezbollah as a resistance movement was formed in response to Israel's 1982 invasion."
National Socialism ("Nazism" in Jewfuckspeak) was ALSO a resistance movement: formed in response to the Jewish Problem, which now the Palestinians are getting a load of. When and if the Pals go to conventional war for Israel, are you going to call them "killers" and equate them to the Germans?
I didn't think so.
My comments were mainly directed at Grim. This has nothing to do with propaganda and ego either. I have no reason at all to fuck around on a blog if I don't believe what I say.
that should read "against" Israel, not "for" Israel. See what you people made me do? Good gawd have mercy on my soul for such a slip.
"They were never overtly offensive tawards anyone."
Niether were the Nazis.
..that Hezbollah will ever get to be nearly as bad as the corporate fascist 'national socialist' hypocrite beast regime, because even if they took over azrael single handedly and killed every settler in (sic) gas chambers, they'd have come up 10 or 20 million short; at least.
(i hold no excuses for the al-lies either)
The reason you'll never sell me on 'national socialism' is because you'll never trick me into believing that war is good, or that all Jews are bad. 'nuff said. Stick to the research.
"Why is this so unclear to all of you? Why is my argument not making sense?"
It doesn’t make sense because your approach is confused, and contradictory.
I’m not attacking you. I merely seek to enhance your argument.
I agree with you that it is inconsistent to defend Hezbollah and attack Hitler, but let’s examine your argument. You start by saying,
“If you argue that Hitler got Germany destroyed, then you must do the same thing regarding Hezbollah.”
Then you write,
“Hezbollah got Lebanon attacked, and reinforced Jewish defensive vigor.”
If that’s true, then Hitler can indeed be blamed for World War II, for when we change two words in the above quote, we get this… “Hitler got Germany attacked, and reinforced Jewish vigor.”
Do you believe that? I don’t.
I’m not playing logic games. I merely seek consistency. It’s understandable if you are annoyed by insults, but my own approach (in most cases anyway) is to say, “I disagree, and here are my reasons…” Unfortunately when we become annoyed, we sometimes fail to realize that others agree with us. We become overheated, such that we think no one “gets it.”
Again, I do not attack you. On the contrary, I hope to strengthen your argument.
You also wrote,
"Hezbollah inadvertently solidified American support (from the Christian Zionists and all)…"
Well, yes and no. I think Hezbollah’s defensive activities have little to do with “Christian” zionists, since the latter would find some reason to attack all nations outside israel whether Hezbollah existed or not. That’s just a minor quibble.
Finally, I do agree with you that skinheads are not Nazis.
Yes, I that it could have been worded better, but I wrote that at midnight last night after work.
Grim, I am very Western-minded and LOVE my German and Polish people. If they went to war for good reason then I cannot be opposed to it because it was necessary, in my view, at the time.
Grim, it's okay that you're pacifist, but I'm not. I would kill for what I felt to be the right reasons, you better believe it! I do not see life as this totally wonderful, precious thing that is not worth giving in certain circumstances. However, if America or Israel went to war, I would NEVER support it. In this case I might also lose my life. That, too, is a war worth dying for (resistance to Zionism, that is).
..defending your neighbours and family is worth of dying for.
One may defend in many ways, it doesn't have to be with a bayonnet.
..as for killing people, the joke's on you. if i were to defend against the zoos, i wouldn't shoot for the top of the head; definately keep it below the belt, at least when they survive, it'll be the last generation.
I think a quick shot to the head is always best.
..neither is a good idea; they'll just start doing it to you and yours.
..it is hard to forgive somebody who might kill you. (to not become like them). Shoot someone anywhere, they die; and it's torture for their family.
..the idea is for EVERYONE to stick together, and to throw down their useless arms, and reconcile. To REFUSE to fight each other, for invented reasons and created problems, is the best revenge WE could ever have on the slave-masters.
That it's torture to shoot Zionist Jews in the groin to deprive them of siring/bearing the next generation of demonic little shits.
It's better to shoot them in the head for an easy kill, but care and discretion in extreme prejudice should be exercised so as to spare "perfectly" innocent lives. Some Khazars might be moral and decent, but black blood still run through their bodies.
Zionist Jews -- descendants of the depravedly fiendish Ashkenazic Khazar tribe -- is considered subhuman in my view, though care in exterminating them one by one may be advised. It's not like we will go by Crusader mantra "Kill them all, let God sort them out."
I'm not one to endorse Nazi-style genocide. Far from it. But the fact remains indisputable that Zionist Jews are the plague of this world, besides arrogant white Elitist rulers.
If what I say is anti-Semitic, it's because Khazars are clever enough to have meshed with Israelites in assimilating customs and genetics upon conversion circa 800 A.D. and, depending on your view of spiritual belief as a believer or atheist (I'm agnostic), bask in Luciferian evil as a master race conspiring to deceive the world with twisted agendas including wars, fraud and murder.
Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 verses in the Bible explicitly refer to Khazar Jews as "Synagogue of Satan." They seek to pervert sovereigties of host nations by perfidy and forcibly change the laws to outlaw citizenry's right to bear arms in order to carry out mass-scale genocidal tyranny, as militant atheist Josef Stalin had done to exterminate millions of Russian Christian Slav peasants, etc.
I will devote a chapter to this particularly wicked race which will be called "The Devil's Children".
I'm glad we agree on something. My own line is much more in line with yours than with grim. There is no good in Jewry as a people. It has forfeited its right to exist as the pariah it is, though, this does not mean that individuals that did nothing, but were victims of Ashkenazi and Sephardi propaganda, ought not be spared. Of course they should be spared. Only a true racist would disagree.
My solution to the Jewish Problem is eternal worldwide Gentile-based management of everything they do and say. It's the only way. I really don't care if they get annihilated there in Israel, though. I won't be crying.
Annihilation means alot of innocent dead people.
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Thinking about this CIA black op, it reminds me of Crystal Night which was ALSO a black op, committed by Communist agents (probably some or many Jewish) within and outside Germany (see Ingrid Weckert's Flashpoint!)
Additionally, while Judicial Inc used to try and imply that Mahmoud was Zionist or Zio-compliant, I disagree. The CIA and Jewry would never be bent on the destruction of a Zio-compliant or Zio-friendly regime. A house divided against itself cannot stand. It makes MORE SENSE that Mahmoud's regime must be removed in order to put a Zio-compliant leader and regime in there, just as was done in Germany some 65 years ago. Again, Zionist-controlled America and Britain would not have taken down a Zio-friendly regime then, and the same principle applies today.
This then makes me wonder how some people can cheer for, and believe in, Hezbollah, since it is responsible (whether intentionally or not) for the near-complete destruction of Lebanon and the deaths of many thousands (recently). Why don't they blame and condemn Hezbollah for allowing this to happen, for not doing everything in their power to maintain peace? These people that cheer Nasrallah and Hezbollah condemn the NS Germans. Why? I fail to see a fundamental difference between the two, other than the Germans being capable of seeking the enemy outside their national boundaries and thwarting a massive invasion of some 183 Soviet divisions amassed for offensive war in Poland (see Hoffmann's Stalin's War of Extermination and Suvorov's Icebreaker). If Hezbollah had had the ability to cross into Israel and slap it there, or in Jordan (a Zio-friendly state), would that have been worse or somehow condemnable? I certainly don't think so.
If Mahmoud gets attacked, it's America's fault, not his. Who really cares if he wants nuclear weapons...it's an insurance policy against Zionist bullying and invasion. That is NOT a legitimate reason to wage war. It will be an unjust war, unlike Hezbollah's just war.
Lastly, Iran sells Israel oil. So, in a way, Mahmoud could be seen to be possibly financing his own future demise and the destruction of his people. Yet, there is a lot of support for Mahmoud too. (I like him and think he has anti-Zionist intentions myself).
Furthermore, who's funding Iran's regime? Which banks, and who controls them? Does it really matter in the first place? I happen to think the banksters only care about money, not necessarily who it comes from or for what intents and purposes. They are that unscrupulous.
Lastly, some people on here are saying that the fact that history books and the Jewish media are so against the "Nazis", well, that implies that they are really for the Nazis (these people think Nazis are pro-Jewish, etc.). If that's the case, then we may apply that same inanity to Mahmoud and Hezbollah--the media and books are only portraying them as staunchly anti-Israel in order to trick us into supporting them (Mahmoud and Hezbollah that is). This is nuts and makes no sense to me. Why would Jewry or the Zionist movement do that? How does it serve their interests? They would want us against them, not for them.
Now you're spamming again.
..just don't call me a bigot, or you'll get the same back.
..that last paragraph leaves me wondering though..
nothing wholesome or legitimate ever requires secrecy.
The CIA - and every other covert "intelligence" agency around the world - is nothing more than the official arm of corporate mobsters.
The sooner Americans realize this and dismantle this God-forsaken organization, the sooner life on earth can begin healing.
As for EOWN's comment:
Hizbullah is not responsible for the destruction of Lebanon - israel is. You cannot unintentionally be responsible for someone else's intentional act.
They may have given israelis the excuse they needed, but the destruction and the blame lies wholly at israel's feet.
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Hizbullah's entire existence is to RESIST the israeli occupation and agression, how could they be responsible FOR IT?
They have not nearly reached the point to which the nazi regime went, and why always nazi nazi nazi? howabout corporate fascism, hypocrisy, folly, beast system, suckers.
With enough prodding, genocide and continual attacks, who knows! Maybe Hizb. and the various Arab armies will take back Palestine! I just hope it doesn't play right into those bastard banker's hands!
Some comments leave me scratching my head, and wondering WTF though; as to the intention. Sorry i missed that Qrs, i already addressed it on an identical post.
Some of EOWM's conjectural deductions are flat-out ridiculous. Might be an agent provocateur dispensing information with contrivances, like blaming Hezbollah for causing Lebanese problems.
EOWM, Hezbollah as a resistance movement was formed in response to Israel's 1982 invasion. That's the basis of Hezbollah's existence to defend Lebanon from the murderous activities of Zionist Israel. Israel staged the provocation to invade south Lebanon again in 2006.
WUFYS is meant as the forum for truth-seekers, not to foster deceptive propaganda that make ignorant people automatically assume "tin foil wearing conspiracy theorists," as they love to smear us.
I develop my conjectures not out of desire for disinfo to satisfy ego but simply to seek nothing but the whole truth in this world full of lies promoted by the corrupt Government and cowardly pliant Media.
I have made my position clear.
You wrote, “This then makes me wonder how some people can cheer for, and believe in, Hezbollah, since Hezbollah is responsible (whether intentionally or not) for the near-complete destruction of Lebanon and the deaths of many thousands (recently).”
COMMENT:
I often criticize people who defend Jewish lies about World War II Germany, but you apparently defend Jewish lies about Hezbollah.
Let’s examine this...
zionists claim that Hezbollah crossed the Lebanese “border” into israeli territory and abducted two Israeli soldiers, thus triggering israel’s “defensive” attack on Lebanon. (I say, “border” because israelis refuse to formally declare any national border.)
Hezbollah says the opposite: on 12 July 2006, two israeli armored Humvees crossed into Lebanese territory and lost two Jewish soldiers (captured) near the Lebanese town of Aitaa al-Chaab. The israelis used this humiliation as an excuse to launch collective punishment on all of Lebanon. They ruined Lebanon's beaches and tourist industry, wiped out its infrastructures, and mass-murdered civilians.
Shall we believe zionist Jews, who are incapable of telling the truth, or shall we believe Hezbollah?
The israelis had been planning to launch their destruction of all Lebanon for at least a year, with help from the Bush regime, which wanted to study how the Jews dealt with bunkers and multi-story buildings. (Hence the USA asked the Jews to drop that bomb on the building at Qana, killing all those handicapped children.)
Indeed, when the first israeli patrol entered Lebanon, most of the world’s media (including Israeli media) reported the truth. Very quickly, however, the Western media (owned by zionist Jews) reversed the story, and claimed that Hezbollah entered Israeli territory.
The world quickly accepted the Jewish version, just as the world accepted the Jewish version of World War II Germany.
Today, Jews refer to their lie-filled version as the “Zar'it-Shtula incident.” They give an israeli name to it in order to engrave their lies into the minds of the stupid Goyim.
Here are some examples of what the Jewish media said on the first day, before they were “corrected” by israeli censors…
“Following the attack on the Hummers, Hizbullah terrorists crossed the border into israel. The body of one IDF soldier was inside Lebanese territory, causing IDF officials to believe the terrorists attempted to abduct him as well. (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3274650,00.html )
"The capture of two israeli soldiers by Hizbullah in southern Lebanon was an act of war, israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Wednesday." ~~Cybercast News Service (CNSNews.com) 12 July 2006.
"israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev said, "It is very clear that the escalation started on the Lebanese side of the border, and israel will respond appropriately." ~~ Voice of America / Jerusalem, 12 July 06.
“Hassan Nasrallah said the timing of the capture of two israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon would boost the position of Palestinians in Gaza." ~~Jerusalem Post 12 July 06.
Meanwhile in the USA, the truth was also reported at first, but was quickly "corrected."
Example:
On 12 July 2006 at 5:41 am New York time, Joseph Panossian of the Associated Press wrote: "Hezbollah captured two israeli soldiers during clashes in southern Lebanon, prompting a swift reaction from israel, which sent ground forces into Lebanon to look for them." Eighty minutes later, Panossian wrote: "Hezbollah captured two israeli soldiers during clashes along the Lebanese border." A few hours after that, Panossian completely shifted location: "Hezbollah militants crossed into israel and captured two Israeli soldiers.”
It may seem childish for zionist Jews to continually claim that “Hezbollah started it by crossing the border,” but such lies are vital in all areas if Jews are to avoid being exposed for what they are.
The lies are also vital if Jews are to keep extorting money from the filthy Goyim via the holo-hoax and other means...
Example:
After Hezbollah defeated israel (a second time), a team of israeli lawyers sued the Lebanese “government” for “starting” the war. The zio-creeps said Lebanon was “responsible” because Hezbollah crossed into israeli territory. The case was filed in US civil court, and sought compensation from Lebanese citizens in the USA for damages incurred by israeli residents and businesses as a result of israel’s attack.
MY POINT is that I don’t agree that Hezbollah is “responsible” for zionist aggression.
I do agree that the West is responsible for its enslavement to Jews, but Hezbollah is different.
They defeated the bastards.
Twice.
Not that I am doubting you, but this borders on the unbelievable. I suppose that's why the word Chutzpah was dreamed up, to describe an extreme level of audacity that beggars belief. Does literally everything boil down to money for these people?
Tell me it's been covered by some1!
Lying effin' bastards worship money!
The israelis filed their lawsuit in the USA because Lebanese people do business with the USA and maintain property in the USA.
The israelis claimed their target was the Lebanese government. However, since “Lebanese government” means the pro-zionist March 14 alliance, I presume the real target was Lebanese people in the USA that are not connected with the alliance.
Lead attorney Attorney Yehudah Talmon said, “We intend to sue other bodies as well. No group associated in any way, shape, or form with Hizbullah is immune to these claims.”
More details here…
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3278932,00.html
EXACTLY! All of you have hit the nail on the head. Israel is GUILTY JUST LIKE AMERICA AND BRITAIN WERE GUILTY FOR DESTROYING GERMANY IN 1945. My point was that if you people are going to argue that Hitler got Germany destroyed, and all those Germans killed, then you must do the same thing regarding Hezbollah; otherwise, you're a bigot.
ShootingSparks or Grim (one of you) specifically attempted to argue that because the Jewish media portrays Hitler as 'against Jews' we may somehow conclude from that that Hitler was Zionist and pro-Jewish; in other words, Grim or SS claims that Hitler was REALLY Zionist and pro-Jew. Bullshyt! Instead of calling me an agent, look at your own arguments. All of you. You too Nepos. You cheer Hezbollah and condemn Nazis.
Tell me now WTF the difference is or was? After all, Hezbollah doing what it did (which I agree was the right thing to do) got Lebanon attacked and reinforced Jewish defensive vigor. It even inadvertently solidified American support (from the Christian Zionists and all) because, to these idiots, Hezbollah are "terrorists." Why is this so unclear to all of you? Why is my argument not making sense?
Perhaps a ratio will help:
Hezbollah is to Nazis (Hez : Nazis)
as (::)
Israel is to America and Britain (in WWII) (Israel : America and Britain)
Is this more CLEAR now?
I was trying to make a point and ya'll went batty like I was trying to defend the desert vermin. NO! Read it again. You cannot condemn the Nazis if you are not also going to condemn Hezbollah, GRIM and SS. Otherwise, you're a bigot.
Because, you would be saying that it's okay for some to defend their state against Jews (Hez) but not others (Nazis). I am sick and fucking tired of you guys bashing the Nazis. Piss off. They weren't fucking Zionists and they weren't Jews. Is that CLEAR?
Stalin had a Jewish-run gov't. The Nazis almost destroyed it. They would have won the war and secured Europe from that shyt if the God-damned Allies had not been ZIONISTS and ruined the German cause with their lies and unwarranted involvement in that war. And Grim, you asked me how the Nazis were any different from the American shyt running our nation today. Night and day! Start reading up on it for fuck's sake. I ask you how you can honestly say that the Nazis were any different from Hezbollah. You look to Condit's bullshyt like he's "God" and ignore what revisionist researchers like Faurisson and others have said about the Nazis after YEARS of research and nearly being killed (Faurisson was nearly beaten to death). He rejects the neo-skinhead assholes just like I do. Those aren't Nazis. The so-called American Nazi Party is run by a Jew named Bill White. Get a clue. Only in America!
The Germans wanted the Jews the fuck out just like the Mid East wants them the fuck out. Problem is no one wants em! That is THE problem...of the entire world. No one wants these people. THAT is why most of them ended up in Palestine...it was the ONLY place to put them. The Germans acting in their own self-interest let them go there. But, as the Mufti's diary indicates (if it's genuine), Himmler promised him that he would help with yet another Jewish relocation once Germany won the war. That is why Husseini supported the Germans. He could trust them to do this. But they lost. Thus, Jews stayed. And as a matter of fact, the greatest emigration from Europe to Palestine occurred AFTER the war ended: under American and British auspices.
So, all of you take your attacks on Nazism, and shove em. I am fucking tired of it. You either accept my findings or buzz the fuck off and stop attacking me and deriding Hitler and the Nazis in response to my posts; about how "evil" or "Zionist" they were. They WERE NOT.
Grim, comparing the Nazis and Hitler to either Jews or American Yanks is like comparing shyt to a cloud. The Americans and Jews are the shyt and the Nazis the cloud. Take your Condit bullshyt and keep it to YOURSELF.
For AZ: I'm a bit surprised you didn't follow my logic. Grim 'not following' I can see, because he thinks Hitler was Jewish, but you I can't see not 'getting it.'
They were never overtly offensive tawards anyone.
i'm starting to not be able to read your posts.
Get the hint, we see more than just the fascists in your mind.
As for the very interesting article about the greedy zoo lawyers that AZ linked, it's a complete joke how they think that money paid by the VICTIMS, puppets or otherwise; will somehow be just compensation to those in occupied Palestine whose business was damaged or disrupted; by THEIR FALSE-FLAG, LYING MF ZOO REGIME.
quote from article:
Aren't Lebanese citizens likely to adopt the idea and sue the Israeli government for causing massive damages to them?
"In my opinion, the Lebanese need to sue their own government, but the courts will decide."
A zoodicial court, no doubt. mr yehoo TALMUD and all the greedy, lying MF snakes in the grass like you: GO-TO-HELL-FOREVER.
"EOWM, Hezbollah as a resistance movement was formed in response to Israel's 1982 invasion."
National Socialism ("Nazism" in Jewfuckspeak) was ALSO a resistance movement: formed in response to the Jewish Problem, which now the Palestinians are getting a load of. When and if the Pals go to conventional war for Israel, are you going to call them "killers" and equate them to the Germans?
I didn't think so.
My comments were mainly directed at Grim. This has nothing to do with propaganda and ego either. I have no reason at all to fuck around on a blog if I don't believe what I say.
that should read "against" Israel, not "for" Israel. See what you people made me do? Good gawd have mercy on my soul for such a slip.
"They were never overtly offensive tawards anyone."
Niether were the Nazis.
..that Hezbollah will ever get to be nearly as bad as the corporate fascist 'national socialist' hypocrite beast regime, because even if they took over azrael single handedly and killed every settler in (sic) gas chambers, they'd have come up 10 or 20 million short; at least.
(i hold no excuses for the al-lies either)
The reason you'll never sell me on 'national socialism' is because you'll never trick me into believing that war is good, or that all Jews are bad. 'nuff said. Stick to the research.
"Why is this so unclear to all of you? Why is my argument not making sense?"
It doesn’t make sense because your approach is confused, and contradictory.
I’m not attacking you. I merely seek to enhance your argument.
I agree with you that it is inconsistent to defend Hezbollah and attack Hitler, but let’s examine your argument. You start by saying,
“If you argue that Hitler got Germany destroyed, then you must do the same thing regarding Hezbollah.”
Then you write,
“Hezbollah got Lebanon attacked, and reinforced Jewish defensive vigor.”
If that’s true, then Hitler can indeed be blamed for World War II, for when we change two words in the above quote, we get this…
“Hitler got Germany attacked, and reinforced Jewish vigor.”
Do you believe that? I don’t.
I’m not playing logic games. I merely seek consistency. It’s understandable if you are annoyed by insults, but my own approach (in most cases anyway) is to say, “I disagree, and here are my reasons…” Unfortunately when we become annoyed, we sometimes fail to realize that others agree with us. We become overheated, such that we think no one “gets it.”
Again, I do not attack you. On the contrary, I hope to strengthen your argument.
You also wrote,
"Hezbollah inadvertently solidified American support (from the Christian Zionists and all)…"
Well, yes and no. I think Hezbollah’s defensive activities have little to do with “Christian” zionists, since the latter would find some reason to attack all nations outside israel whether Hezbollah existed or not. That’s just a minor quibble.
Finally, I do agree with you that skinheads are not Nazis.
Yes, I that it could have been worded better, but I wrote that at midnight last night after work.
Grim, I am very Western-minded and LOVE my German and Polish people. If they went to war for good reason then I cannot be opposed to it because it was necessary, in my view, at the time.
Grim, it's okay that you're pacifist, but I'm not. I would kill for what I felt to be the right reasons, you better believe it! I do not see life as this totally wonderful, precious thing that is not worth giving in certain circumstances. However, if America or Israel went to war, I would NEVER support it. In this case I might also lose my life. That, too, is a war worth dying for (resistance to Zionism, that is).
..defending your neighbours and family is worth of dying for.
One may defend in many ways, it doesn't have to be with a bayonnet.
..as for killing people, the joke's on you. if i were to defend against the zoos, i wouldn't shoot for the top of the head; definately keep it below the belt, at least when they survive, it'll be the last generation.
I think a quick shot to the head is always best.
..neither is a good idea;
they'll just start doing it to you and yours.
..it is hard to forgive somebody who might kill you. (to not become like them). Shoot someone anywhere, they die; and it's torture for their family.
..the idea is for EVERYONE to stick together, and to throw down their useless arms, and reconcile. To REFUSE to fight each other, for invented reasons and created problems, is the best revenge WE could ever have on the slave-masters.
That it's torture to shoot Zionist Jews in the groin to deprive them of siring/bearing the next generation of demonic little shits.
It's better to shoot them in the head for an easy kill, but care and discretion in extreme prejudice should be exercised so as to spare "perfectly" innocent lives. Some Khazars might be moral and decent, but black blood still run through their bodies.
Zionist Jews -- descendants of the depravedly fiendish Ashkenazic Khazar tribe -- is considered subhuman in my view, though care in exterminating them one by one may be advised. It's not like we will go by Crusader mantra "Kill them all, let God sort them out."
I'm not one to endorse Nazi-style genocide. Far from it. But the fact remains indisputable that Zionist Jews are the plague of this world, besides arrogant white Elitist rulers.
If what I say is anti-Semitic, it's because Khazars are clever enough to have meshed with Israelites in assimilating customs and genetics upon conversion circa 800 A.D. and, depending on your view of spiritual belief as a believer or atheist (I'm agnostic), bask in Luciferian evil as a master race conspiring to deceive the world with twisted agendas including wars, fraud and murder.
Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 verses in the Bible explicitly refer to Khazar Jews as "Synagogue of Satan." They seek to pervert sovereigties of host nations by perfidy and forcibly change the laws to outlaw citizenry's right to bear arms in order to carry out mass-scale genocidal tyranny, as militant atheist Josef Stalin had done to exterminate millions of Russian Christian Slav peasants, etc.
I will devote a chapter to this particularly wicked race which will be called "The Devil's Children".
I'm glad we agree on something. My own line is much more in line with yours than with grim. There is no good in Jewry as a people. It has forfeited its right to exist as the pariah it is, though, this does not mean that individuals that did nothing, but were victims of Ashkenazi and Sephardi propaganda, ought not be spared. Of course they should be spared. Only a true racist would disagree.
My solution to the Jewish Problem is eternal worldwide Gentile-based management of everything they do and say. It's the only way. I really don't care if they get annihilated there in Israel, though. I won't be crying.
Annihilation means alot of innocent dead people.