ATTENTION ALL BLOGGERS

It has come to my attention that once again a post with all its comments has been uncermoniously trashed WITHOUT NOTICE.

Some of you may not have been here when I last made this announcement. So, I'll say it again.

Even though the software allows you to do it, I reiterate that it is absolutely unacceptable to trash your post without notifying ALL commentators of your intentions BEFOREHAND, AND affording them the opportunity to copy and save their comment to another medium BEFORE you trash it.

In fact, the best way to "delete" the content of your post, if that's what you insist on doing, is to go into the post, strip it of its content and replace it with a standard "this post was deleted because - etc ..."

At least this way everyone is happy, the author gets rid of whatever he or she doesn't want others to read, commentators get to hold on to their hard work, and readers get the benefit of reading thoughtful comments even though the content of the post itself is gone.

 

Posted in Submitted by qrswave on Sat, 2008-06-14 07:59.

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i was pissed when my comments were deleted, twice.

Grim Reaper | Sat, 2008-06-14 10:22

that's your fault for not saving your comments and being proactive. There is no room in my world for whiners and ex-tweakers. Besides, consider it preparation for the Jewish Rule to come.

88.

Ehud Olmerts Wo... | Sat, 2008-06-14 10:30

we are all  Tel Aviv jewish whiners.  Gotcha.

Rhiannon | Sat, 2008-06-14 10:34

that's your fault for not saving your comments and being proactive.

This is the kind of logic that makes a fool of you. Comments are by their very nature for the benefit of others. Why would someone save their own comments, and for publication where?

There is no room in my world for whiners and ex-tweakers.

Obviously there's room in your world for idiots. At the center of it is a complete dunce.

Sorry QRS, couldn't resist.

Crimes of Zion | Sat, 2008-06-14 10:48

contributors "save" their comments by pressing "publish."

unless they've posted smut or links to smut, there is no reason for them to believe that after they press publish their comment will be removed without notice.

Not only is that akin to censorship - it's simply unfair as it is completely unreasonable to expect people to routinely save all the comments they make at every website any place other than the website at which they make it.

If you want to delete your post - just delete its content and leave the comments - which are not yours to delete - alone.

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qrswave | Sat, 2008-06-14 14:19

EOWN left a last telling comment:

"88".

88 = HH = Heil Hitler.

Reference 1 2. ADL web site also points to this but I refuse to link to that POS Zionist site.

In other words, EOWN is a Neo-Nazi activist.

IMHO, I've had enough with EOWN and think he's not welcome here at WUFYS. He undermines WUFYS because the antagonists (LGF, DKos, Digg, etc) will point to EOWN's posts and scream WUFYS promote hate propaganda and unquestionable anti-Semitism.

Qrs, your call whether he stays (free speech regardless of "superficial association") or go away in banishment for undermining WUFYS by deletion of posts to eliminate the comments and/or "flame-baiting" ("Was Harry Truman a Nazi?" post, etc).

WUFYS is supposed not to be an outpost for outright Nazi sympathy and revisionist history re: Nazi Holocaust (examination in questioning the actual number of dead Jews by disease, extermination and starvation in concentration camps [imo, "6 million dead" is BS, likely less than 2 million] is perfectly fine; total, passionate denial it ever happened in radical revisionist arguments might be questionable).

Thanks for considering.

Nepos Libertas | Sat, 2008-06-14 14:20

you're an honored contributor at WUFYS and your opinions are highly regarded. I appreciate your research on the 88 symbol. I didn't know that.

Regarding EOWN being a neo-nazi - I don't think that she is - notwithstanding her use of 88. I refer you to this recent comment she made at "The Science of Racism" post:

Who cares? Does that make it okay for Jews to stomp on everyone else? This is the problem one runs into with neo-Nazis. They think that because whites have generally higher IQs than Blacks that it's somehow okay to destroy Black civilization and enslave them. How is this any different from the Jewish attitude? It's all bad. [emphasis mine]Those with higher intelligence should put it to good use and instead of tearing other peoples down, help build them up. China is doing a wonderful job in Africa right now. They have put the white man to shame as far as fair treatment of Africans in their own continent. Maybe the Chinese are a better people and they do, in fact, have higher IQs than white people (generally). Maybe whites need to be ruled for a change.

Ehud Olmerts Wo... | Fri, 2008-06-13 14:28

Moreover, even if she were a "neo-nazi" (whatever that is), the best way to approach a person whose views you disagree with is by logic and reason, not isolation or banishment (unless of course their comments are void of logic or reason, e.g., posting links to smut).

If I were to ban "neo-nazis" from WUFYS, then I could not complain when someone bans me from their forum for proudly declaring my anti-zionist views.

 

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qrswave | Sat, 2008-06-14 14:57

I posted the post "EOWN: Is this how you represent '88'?" before I read your comment above. I apologize for "jumping to conclusion", if that idiom is correct.

I did not know EOWN might hold a negative opinion towards Neo-Nazism but that might not be all she have.

Her using "88" is an obvious sign that gives away the ideological make-up of her Internet identity. Hence my commentary and post with the shocking video.

I agree with your assessment that no one should be banned from WUFYS outside of posting smut (spam), EOWN included. Again, suspension of account is up to you; my suggestion is merely my view as judgment.

Let's not allow WUFYS to devolve to DKos in "banhammer" policy. Your free speech policy is much more liberal than dKos's considerably harsh policy which is allowed free speech and which is bannable offense (such as taking founding blogger Markos to task in legitimate criticism [he has a fragile ego, y'know], criticizing certain Democratic Party politicians and activists [who might happen to be contributing dK bloggers] in harsh but not vulgar terms, 9-11/JFK assassination conspiracy theory regardless of new evidence in published respectable newspapers and 'outright' contempt of Israel).

I may regret the loss of my posting privilege at dKos, as you might do (looked up your long list of substantial contributions as a former blogger there), but who cares. I've been IP-banned from RawStory comment section for anti-Zionist and anti-corrupt US govt vitriol.

Let EOWN speak but with his/her reputation as a trust-worthy commentator somewhat diminished. I think diligent readers at WUFYS, even newcomers, should be able to differentiate substantial postings from "pro-Nazi/blatantly anti-Semitic (not only Zionist but encompass all Jews as enemies" posts. They are intelligent enough to try perusing WUFYS to read the posts in search of truth, so they should understand the difference between well-meaning contributors and antagonistic provocateurs.

Qrs, thank you for your positive comment regarding my contributions. I think I might need a copy editor. Sometimes my grammar/sentence structure may be screwy in lengthy posts (I don't own a copy of Microsoft Word to "grammar check"), which I was often criticized for (i.e. by pompous reddit morons). Might want to read old grammar books to make sure my style is understandable without incoherent and/or indecipherable convolution.

Nepos Libertas | Sat, 2008-06-14 15:41

88. lol

Ehud Olmerts Wo... | Sat, 2008-06-14 18:45

IMHO, I've had enough with EOWN and think he's not welcome here at WUFYS. He undermines WUFYS because the antagonists (LGF, DKos, Digg, etc) will point to EOWN's posts and scream WUFYS promote hate propaganda and unquestionable anti-Semitism.

Qrs, your call whether he stays (free speech regardless of "superficial association") or go away in banishment for undermining WUFYS by deletion of posts to eliminate the comments and/or "flame-baiting" ("Was Harry Truman a Nazi?" post, etc).

Actually, the original title of EOWN's post was 'Was Harry Truman a Jew-Lover?', which to me has more incendiary connotations. It implies that all Jews are the enemy, and potentially earmarks this site as a 'hate site'. This is my opinion anyway; a debate on the issue was held in the thread below the blog in question, but that too was deleted by EOWN.

If it can be made to look like WUFYS hates all Jews, it will mean the beginning of big problems for us here. This is what Zionist provocateurs have tried to do here in the past.

For the record, I don't want EOWN banned, despite the fact that her juvenile attacks are ongoing, but I do share Nepos' concerns, and I think EOWN's comments definitely qualify as 'smut'. She can't seem to say anything lately without making a complete dick of herself.

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