I think American Jews have blinders on, much like the rest of the American sheeple.  I think Jews in America are indoctrinated very early with the idea that people want to kill Jews for no reason. 

Slogans like "never again" are like israeli ad campaigns.  They invent a reason for israel's existence and help to create a blind following. 

In America we are trained to believe that Muslims/Arabs are violent extremists who will blow themselves up for virgins or any silly reason.  Hollywood endorses this stereotype by repeatedly showing cruel villains of this ilk.  The MSM continually labels every explosion in the ME a "suicide bomber". 

Progressive Jews like Stewart, Black, Al Franken, etc... take correct stances against the neo-cons, but their heart is not really in it.  Stewart continually has neo-cons on to promote their books. 

Black, in a recent stand-up performance admitted to whoring himself out to the neo-cons by politically correcting his 20 minute gig at the Washington Press Corps dinner.  Black also paints the enemy as the crazy terrorists who stormed the passenger jets on 9-11. 

Franken, while he still had a radio show, used to interview neo-cons regularly, a la Stewart, making their opinions seem halfway legitimate.  Also Franken would make jokes about Arabs firing off guns in the air for no reason other than their crazy Arabness.  (Franken used to say that racial profiling middle-easterners by the airlines would be okay with him, saying that if Jewish comedians  had been responsible for 9-11, he would understand a similar profiling aimed toward himself.  If he only knew!) 

I am not Jewish, but I was raised in a similar environment and used to believe all the same stereotypes.  To wake up out of that program and start to see israel as the enemy, or to question the holocaust was very difficult.  The biggest obstacle was my own self.  To think these things made me hate myself, because I believed that only bad people thought those things.  I imagine it is the same or worse for Jewish Americans. 

But perhaps the facade is starting to crack.  There was a clip recently of Stewart talking about about the AIPAC lobby, and he made a crack about the elders of zion.  In order for that joke to be funny, Stewart must understand the irony of implying that AIPAC controls the US government, much in the same way that the cabal of elders control world governments in the Protocols.  If the AIPAC was not in control of the US, the joke would not be funny.

I don't know where I read it first (smoking mirrors, WRH?), but 9-11 is sort of a litmus test.  If someone still believes the official story, they are either asleep or an idiot.  When Stewart finally wakes up to this fact, I'll start taking him seriously. 

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"Stop judging by appearances, but judge justly."

When talking about the Zionist problem one should keep the distinction between Jews and Zionists. One have an agenda, the other are a religion of choice.

Also, it should be remember that the 'jews' are not a race unto themselves. They are a semite people - like other arabs. They are no different genetically than the Palestinians they kill.

"Jew" is not a race. It is a religious club right on par with Catholicism. No difference other than one claims itself "chosen" by God. A dubious claim indeed, considering that if the Swedish had written the bible, the Swede's would be the "chosen" people.

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.

HAHAHA, in Swedish, the chosen ones would be "Det valda folket".

Consider the membership of aipac, well over 100,000; are they not zionist?

There are no doubt millions of jews and millions more goyim who would support israel, one way or another.

There's millions of jews and goyim who don't support zionism.

So, out of the 10 million jews in america, how many support israel with their money and breath?
(the shill gov't that sends them billions notwithstanding)

And how many of the rest of us may as well be zionist jews, because of supporting israel?

(correct the population numbers if you will)

Ben Freedman

Jack Bernstein

Myron Fagan

This list is TOO short.  WHERE ARE THESE RIGHTEOUS JEWS NOW?!?!?!?!?

If you are out there, WE NEED YOU NOW, more then EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WUFYS is the first place I've seen where bloggers aren't afraid of calling a black kettle - a black kettle.  This place is not for everyone, if someone can't handle the truth  posted here then there are other places such as DKOS, SFGate etc - I  don't keep track of them. 

all you want, but just remember, that is THEIR weapon used to divide us.

Nurture not nature...

eugenics is junk

Have any Jews shown up to save us yet?

Is Christianity a race?

Is Islam a race?

And now I ask, is Judaism a race?

Pretty self-explanatory.

I share your concerns about the future of this site. I hope it manages to uphold the moral integrity, prudence and savvy that it was founded upon. Fight smart - that has to be one of the bedrock principles of conduct for the serious anti-Zionist.

It's a complex issue though, I should say. I've been a staunch proponent of the 'Jew' isn't synonymous with 'Zionist' point of view in the recent debates here on that matter, and I still adhere to that idea for the sake of expediency, but I also understand where Gilad Atzmon is coming from:

[T]he debate between Zionists and Jewish anti-Zionists has no significance on Israel or the struggle against Israeli actions. It is there to keep the debate within the family while planting more confusion amongst the goyim. It allows the Jewish ethnic campaigner to maintain that “not all Jews are Zionists, in fact there are almost two dozen ‘Jewish Anti Zionists’ around the world”. As pathetic as it may sound, this dull argument has been good enough to effectively shatter any criticism of Jewish ethnocentric lobbying that may have been voiced the last four decades. Seemingly (and unfortunately), when it comes to ‘action’, the Zionists and the so-called Jewish ‘anti’-Zionists are acting as one people. Why are they acting as one people? Because they are one people. Are they really one people? It doesn’t matter as long as they themselves believe to be or act as if they are. And what is it that makes them into one people? They probably hate everyone else as much as they love themselves.

The whole article is well worth the read.

In any case, I've chosen to identify Zionism as the enemy and not Jewry as a collective, because I believe that it's Zionism that drives the perpetrators of 9/11 and the dual citizenship traitors that brought us the Iraq war, and the planned attacks on Iran for Israeli regional supremacy. It's all about Israel and Israeli hegemony - at least while that shitty little country still continues to exist. But I know that even if it didn't, we would still be slaves to Jewish supremacists.

I choose to attack from that angle because I believe it has the best chance of success, and I find it easier to bring people around to my way of thinking by pointing out the evil of Zionism as a political ideology. That's just the way I want to play it; it might not suit the next person.

But the day I begin to feel like a member of Stormfront here will be the same day I make my last post, and move on.

Well I have to say I am glad at least one person here has read Gilad’s article.  I was quite happy to have read something of that calibre on a pro-Palestine site, for it would finally allow people to realize some problems of the “Jewish” identity that created Zionism in the first place.  I even made a post here to get people to read it:  http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/7246 but I don’t think many people did as there was no feedback...

Yes gong after Zionism is safer.  It is easier to get people to rally for the cause since it is not perceivably as anti-Semitic [sic], and makes the job easier for us to go after the political faction as opposed to the religious one and battle all the non-sense surrounding the dogma of talking about the Judaic religion.

In the end, the hateful tribal ideology is what needs to be combated even after Zionism is dealt with.  Focussing on 9/11 as relating to Zionism is a good starter, but the elitist members of the tribal hate are in positions of control and influence over a great many sectors of society’s establishments, and this is not something to be passed over.

Peace.

or an ethnicity if you will. Judaism is the religion that comes with it, just as other races have religions they've traditionally been raised with.

2. There are millions of Zionists in the United States however there are different levels of insight that Zionists have. I think it's a relatively small cabal of people running things at the top, the Rothschilds, the other international bankers & the heads of the Zionist movement & then you have the rank & file Zionist Jews who don't know stuff like that Hitler was funded by Rothschild, that the Rothschilds were behind pogroms against Jews, that bombs were placed in synagogues in order to get Jews to emigrate to Israel, etc. However many of these people are still selfish, ignorant jerks who are not willing to listen to any of these facts, espescially when they're presented by non-Jews. I'm not sure that these assholes make up a majority of Jews or not but there are a lot of them.

It's not strictly Zionist that's the problem, it's also the ideology of Jewish supremacy found in Judaism within the Talmud, etc. These things such as the content of the Talmud need to become public knowledge, the amount of lies these people have gotten away with is astounding. Such as that one can simply quote from the Talmud directly & probably be called an anti-semite for doing so. I don't understand how things got so out of hand, unless there is some truth behind the Jewish belief of the non-Jews being on average less intelligent than Jews. But even if that's true they're still grossly immoral along with it & their achievements in the name of Zionism & world conquest are nothing to be proud of & can only be the result of some sort of sickness.

Well I have to say I am glad at least one person here has read Gilad’s article.  I was quite happy to have read something of that calibre on a pro-Palestine site, for it would finally allow people to realize some problems of the “Jewish” identity that created Zionism in the first place.  I even made a post here to get people to read it:  http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/7246 but I don’t think many people did as there was no feedback...

Actually, I first read Atzmon's article here when you posted it, but I bookmarked the original after a quick internet search because you didn't provide a link. I prefer to provide references as close to the source as possible, but in doing so I failed to credit you with the find. Apologies for that, and thanks for the article.

Don't be discouraged by a lack of feedback. There's always someone that benefits from a good post. Telling the truth is sometimes a thankless task, but it's never a fruitless one.

Cheers bro.

I agree with these statements from aZIXx:

In the end, the hateful tribal ideology is what needs to be combated even after Zionism is dealt with.

and Infinite:

It's not strictly Zionist that's the problem, it's also the ideology of Jewish supremacy found in Judaism within the Talmud, etc.

which is why I wrote this:

It's all about Israel and Israeli hegemony - at least while that shitty little country still continues to exist. But I know that even if it didn't, we would still be slaves to Jewish supremacists.

But this, from aZIXx, is key:

Yes going after Zionism is safer.  It is easier to get people to rally for the cause since it is not perceivably as anti-Semitic [sic], and makes the job easier for us to go after the political faction as opposed to the religious one and battle all the non-sense surrounding the dogma of talking about the Judaic religion.

For now, it's imperative that we do what works. Our efforts have to be goal oriented, or there's no point. Awaken the people first, penetrate the conditioning that's accumulated after a lifetime of lies and media indoctrination, and they will come to know the deeper truth of it all on their own. Fucking around recklessly like a bull in a china shop is no way to catalyze a critical mass awakening.

If I understand him correctly, this is what Sh'arks is getting at. Ugly, racist [sic] bullshit will get us nowhere.

Thank you for reading it, and no need to give me credit, I just want people to read the damn thing LOL

As for the source, I try - and usually succeed - in always providing the source for the material, as I did with the Gilad article.  If you go to it, you will see the link is in the title of the article:

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don't have his personal insight.

 

 

 

The Jewish Experience - by Gilad Atzmon

For more than half a century, those who have been trying to

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I didn't notice it at the time.

Cheers.

On this point about jews and zionists.  I agree that comments made by someone like say this  spermwhale are ridiculous.  She is indeed like a bull in a china shop.  It's better to say the reasons WHY one has to talk this way.  Therefore, make a post, back up why one says such things.  Then it will make sense. 

The majority of jews are extremely loyal to "israel" whether they like it or not.  Wealthy jews [and possibly those who are middle to upper middle class] must give a percentage of their income to "israel".  This I have learned from friends I have in the USA.  They work with jews in the garment industry.  I am supposing it is true.

It's all the same to me - jews/zionists/supremacy

If you have personally come across jews who do not have such a mindset for loyalty to "israel", and if they have voiced how deplorable and depraved "israel" has become, you have found a rare jew, indeed.  They  are rare and hard to come by.

How about the Neturei Karta, they call themselves "True Torah Jews." i know they don't believe in the creation of israel.

Question, do they follow the talmud?

Are they not the descendants of Issac(pbuh)

Good question. 

In the spirit of Isaac, then the Neturei Karta, to me are descendants...IN THE SPIRT.

They are still Ashkenazi, biologically.  A Christian is no longer a Christian when creating heartbreak for others out of spite or greed.  Deviating away from the Soul, embracing material goods while knowingly harming others to get them, this so-called Christian is a deviant of Jesus, and therefore a deviant of all prophets' teaching.

You can't fool your Soul.

How about scumbags like Walid Shoebat,   Muhammad Dahlan, and so many others like them.  They may be genetically  closer descendants to Ishmael and Isaac than the  Ashkenazi are to the Tribes.  But who really cares?  God doesn't.  The reality is:  Heritage, eye color, skin tone, bone structure, traditions, culture mean NOTHING to God.

To me, the only time heritage matters is when zionists start lying to mislead others [example - anti-semitism], to hurt others for their own personal gain. - indeed one of their favorite weapons used to gain power in the Middle East.   THEN I throw their  ashkenazi  biology-birthplace at them.

Otherwise, I really don't care about semitism.   It was always irrelevant until zionism came along.

Neturei Karta seem to follow the Truth  parts of the Talmud [how much of God's Word is in this book I don't know].  Do they ignore the sick human-made parts about gentiles, Mary and Jesus?  It seems like they do. 

To me, they appear to be the very few Jews in this world that are honest about "israel".

If you check their website, they do put out a verse from the Talmud [which comes from Torah] where God plainly says Israelites do not get Israel until He says so.  No building of the 3rd Temple,  God's Word, which the zionist jews conveniently  ignore.

Are they here now???

still waiting

Is your question directed at me?

 How about the returning Israelites are anyone  but the zionist jews who own and run the media.

Anyone   but zionist jews and their supporters  who conjured and run the federal reserve.

Anyone   but the zionist jews and their supporters who believe in such dangerous thinking that eastern immigrant atheist jews and fanatic zealot squatters retain special rights to the Land of Palestine.

Anyone   but the zionist jews and their supporters who make wars to wipe away millions of families for OIL, WATER, PIPELINES, MILITARY BASES, ELECTRICITY, GAS, LAND GRABS....and so on.

Yes...we are here.

Couldn't have said it better.

Those bastards are about as far away from a God-Loving people as possible. I would however, lay off the Naturei Karta and other groups of Jews who support human rights and truth.

Rhiannon you are indeed a brave soul and one with integrity to speak truth to power.  Let's hope your actions inspire more jews to do the right thing.

Rhiannon ain't a Jew, AC. Brave soul maybe, but not Jewish.

thanks coz. then why did she blatantly lie when that's what I was obviously asking?  does she skim these comments as quickly as I do sometimes?

Just a misunderstanding, I think. I'm sure she wasn't trying to lead you to believe that she's Jewish. Rhiannon isn't a liar.

Who'd wanna lie about being Jewish on a site like this? It'd be like walking into a Hell's Angel's stronghold with a pink tutu on.

Although, if Rhiannon did that, she'd probably be received quite well. ;)

i doubt that anyone posting here is a jew.

Rhiannon meant anyone who isn't a zionist jew,
and i will enhance this to mean anyyone who insn't_a_supremacist_zionite_bastard.

I'm sure she's enthused about the hell's angels though, coz.

May be the poster is ...   ask him.

When I said:  Yes...we are here.  I am talking about people like you and I. 

That zionist jews go on about being the descendants of biblical Israelites is laughable at best, especially for the reasons [hidden and otherwise] that they say so. 

Therefore, their claim is bogus.  

I like the lyric:  "lose your love when you say the word 'mine'".

The Neil Young lyric is like a parable in that "israel" demands too much "love"  for the wrong reasons, insists that God loves them best, and based on such braggart cowardice its okay to see others as their lowly servants.

When you spend too much time winning 'love', demanding  'love',  there is no time to be kind.  The zionist jew media is the most deceitful, most mean-spirited, and most powerful weapon zionist jews, their followers, their puppets have:  brainwashing by the bullies.

Why not everyone else in this world  -[BUT the zionist jews, their supporters, their puppets]- be the descended Israelites?

Why should we believe the zionist jew, his books and newspapers?

No...I am not jewish. 

Oh but why just pink?

Why not a whole bunch of colors?

      Tutu_Sweet