"israel Doesn't Need Recognition"

Good - because they're never going to get it.

But, that won't stop delusional zionists from revealing their religious fanaticism in all its glory.

The Arabs have no rights to Israel at all.

We keep hearing that Hamas and Fatah must recognize Israel in order for the Palestinians to have their own nation, side by side with Israel. Does this recognition make Israel a real entity, and without it, she is not real? Why is the Quartet making such a big deal concerning the need for recognition of Israel by her enemies?

Let me make it perfectly clear: Israel does not now, nor will she ever need, her enemies' recognition. The truth is that neither Hamas nor Fatah really recognize Israel. Fatah will say they do to gain what they want. Hamas, however, is more honest about their intentions. Israel knows where Hamas stands. Israel knows both groups want only one thing - the total destruction of the Jewish People. So, while Fatah will play the game and say what is in their best interest for now, Hamas is not willing to do the same.

She has G-d's recognition and that is what counts.

The truth is that the Palestinian people have done absolutely nothing to deserve their own state. They were supposed to stop their attacks on Israel. But, instead, they have kept them going all along. The news media in America has not been reporting these events like they should. So, many people think the Palestinians have been keeping their promises. But they don't keep their promises and, in the long run, they never will. They don't want to be Israel's neighbor at all. They will settle for nothing less than the destruction of Israel. They want all the land of Israel, not just part of it. They want all the Jews to leave Israel. If the truth be known, they would much rather drive them into the sea.

It is always Israel that gives and gives. She is the one who always makes the painful concessions. Not once have I seen the Palestinians make (or keep) a single concession. They are far too busy with their destructive nature to accomplish anything good. When they aren't killing Jews, they turn their destructive ways of hatred upon one other. And this is the people the nations beg to recognize Israel? Israel does not need their recognition. She has G-d's recognition and that is what counts.

One thing is for sure, Israel will still be around long after her enemies are no more. It has always been this way and it will continue to be this way.

Israel first became a nation in 1312 BCE. That was two thousand years before the rise of Islam. Therefore, we can see, plainly, that the Jewish People are the ones who have a legitimate claim to the land. Seven hundred and twenty-six years later, in 586 BCE, these first ancient Jews in the Land of Israel [Judea] were overrun. Israel's First Temple (on Jerusalem's Old City Temple Mount) was destroyed by the ancient and evil Babylonian king, Nebuchadnezzar. At that time, many of the Jews were killed or expelled from their land; however, some were allowed to stay. These Jews, along with their offspring, and other Jews who resettled there over the next 500 years, rebuilt the Nation of Israel. They also built the Second Temple in Jerusalem upon the Temple Mount.

What Israel's enemies think will not change a thing.

Thus, and very importantly, the claim that Jews suddenly appeared in the land only fifty years ago, right after the Holocaust, and then drove out the Arabs is nothing but a preposterous lie.

G-d has a covenant with the Jewish People, and He will keep that covenant, regardless of who recognizes Israel or who doesn't.

From the time Israel became a nation (once again) in 1948, the Arab nations have not wanted her there. They have fought to destroy her in every way they can. They don't want to share the land with the Jews at all. Quite simply, they do not want a Jewish presence in the Middle East. However, the Jewish People are not leaving their home, no matter what the Arabs want.

The Arabs have no rights to Israel at all. They need to be happy with all the 22 Arab countries they have. It is nothing but pure greed, and hatred, that makes them desire the land of Israel and the destruction of the Jewish People.

Israel is only 1/19th the size of California. She is surrounded by hostile Arab-Islamic dictatorships a massive 640 times her size. Yet, Arab propagandists accuse Israel of taking their land. One can see from looking at a map of the entire Middle East just how pathetic these accusations of Israeli expansionism really are. It is quite clear who the expansionists really are.

Israel has always sought peaceful coexistence with her neighbors. Unfortunately, she has been given precisely the opposite. Her neighbors are dedicated to one thing: her destruction. Of the countries surrounding Israel, only Egypt and Jordan have peace treaties with Israel, and, at best, these treaties are on very shaky ground.

The truth is that Israel exists. The truth is, she doesn't need her enemies to believe she exists in order for her to continue to exist. What her enemies think will not change a thing. They didn't give Israel her beginning, and they surely won't cause her ending. They don't possess that kind of power; only the G-d of Israel does.

"The G-d of israel???"

These people are terminally insane.

Not only do they believe that they are "Chosen", but they also believe that they have their own personal God.

What kind of twisted monotheism is that?

Or is it because they believe that the rest of us aren't human?

She's right though - israel does not need recognition. It won't be around long enough to enjoy it.

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I offer this as a prayer:

"God damn the maggots."

Abdul-Alhazred | Fri, 2007-03-02 22:35

and AZ, funny comment!

The Great Revealer | Sat, 2007-03-03 07:14

You've managed to quote the most right wring Ultra-nationalist media source in Israel, and are claiming that it represents the views of Israelis. And you people claim that be seeking TRUTH? Lying scumbags - this is nothing short of an attempt to incite hatred. The worts part? It works.

ProudJewishZionist | Sat, 2007-03-03 08:05

I lifted her rabid article word for word.

You just can't stand the truth.

And the fact that it works is hardly news - the truth is very effective.

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qrswave | Sat, 2007-03-03 09:06

This is "truth?" If you were truly out to find truth, you wuold quote news articles from the Right-wing, center, and left-wing media to give a balanced view of the different political views of Israelis.

Since you're NOT seeking truth, but rather seeking to continue your orgy of Israel hatred, you have quoted Aritz Sheva - the news source STARTED BY THE SETTLERS (whom by the way, I don't support). There are only a few hundred thousand settlers, and yet you claim that they represent Israelis as a whole.

This would be like me quoting FOX news (with added religious fanaticism) and claiming that it is representative of the views of all Americans. This is the most idiotic thing I have ever seen on this site (and that does say quite a lot).

ProudJewishZionist | Sun, 2007-03-04 04:37

"If you were truly out to find truth, you wuold quote news articles from the Right-wing, center, and left-wing media to give a balanced view of the different political views of Israelis."

Truth is not something that's conjured up by mixing up a variety of perspectives from different sources - many of whom are LYING THROUGH THEIR TEETH for political, economic, and personal gain.

Truth is objective reality - whether or not it's favorable to one group or another - in this case, Jews.

Anyone with two eyes and even a modicum of background on israeli atrocities can see that zionism is a supremacist ideology based on theft, dispossession and murder - notwithstanding the plethora of excuses zionists and their apologists offer through their media organs.

And as far as this article is concerned - they may be just a fraction of the israeli population, as you describe them, but that's what this whole thing is about, isn't it?

They dictate israeli policy and THEY are at the heart of this crisis.

You are just frustrated because for the most part - the truth speaks for itself. We just communicate it.

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qrswave | Sun, 2007-03-04 04:54

The accuracy of any comment about Israel is directly proportionate to how much it makes Zionists scream. The louder Zionists wail, the more they confirm the truth.

The same principle applies to charges of "anti-Semitism." When Israel applies a new charge of "anti-Semitism" to Lebanon, Syria, or elsewhere, we must ask, "Damn, who did the Jewish maggots assassinate or bomb this time?"

(Apologies to maggots.)

DEATH TO ISRAEL.

DEATH TO ZIONISM.

Abdul-Alhazred | Sun, 2007-03-04 05:08

I guess I'm expecting too much from the likes of you. I donn't suppose I can expect someone who says things like "Death to Israel" and "Death to Zionism" to think critically and impartially.

Israel will live on because it is the ONLY country that protects us. After the holocaust (yes, I know you don't believe it happened, but just bear with me) in which my grandmother's entire family (on my mother's side) was killed, it was Israel who protected her. You Americans didn't want the Jews, the British didn't want the Jews, Europe didn't want the Jews - you have nobody to blame for the creation of Israel but your racist administrations.

It was ISRAEL WHO TOOK IN MY FAMILY AND PROTECTED US. And don't tell me about how peacefully we lived in the Muslim world, my family (on my father's side) was forced to flee on horseback from Persia to Uzbekistan where they were greeted with more porgroms and forced to flee to Israel. The journey took a total of 5 years.

I'll end this rant now, because I know well that its pointless.

ProudJewishZionist | Sun, 2007-03-04 05:22

ProudJewishZionist wrote—

“You Americans didn't want the Jews, the British didn't want the Jews, Europe didn't want the Jews - you have nobody to blame for the creation of Israel but your racist administrations.”

I am continually amused by how stupid you think we Gentiles are. The US, Canada, and England repeatedly offered to take all Jews from Central Europe during World War II, but the World Zionist Organization would not allow this. The WZO said it must be Palestine or nowhere. Hitler would have been happy to send Jews to Palestine, except the rulers of Iraq asked him not to, and Hitler needed Iraq’s oil.

Therefore Jews ended up in labor camps, along with gypsies, plus Russian prisoners of war, and so forth.

Oh that’s right—I forgot. The millions of other deaths have no “moral equivalency” with anything Jewish.

Fuck you.

You’ve come to the wrong place if you think you can confuse and befuddle people with your Zionist filth. Save your verbal excrement for Goyim who are still under your foul spell. And open a book once in a while!

DEATH TO ALL JEWS WHO DO NOT PUBLICLY RENOUNCE ZIONISM

Abdul-Alhazred | Sun, 2007-03-04 05:42

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