GOD DAMN YOU, DICK CHENEY!!!


Damning testimony by Norman Mineta that unequivocally implicates Dick Cheney in the plane crash into the Pentagon and possibly connects him to the downing of flight 93 in Pennsylvania.

The thing that stands out for me, besides what MR highlighted at WRH and the questions derdy raised at youtube, is that orders were given to take down commercial airlines, to the effect that Mineta was concerned that flight 93 was in fact shot down by our fighters, enough so that he actually consulted with the Pentagon to confirm whether or not that happened.

But, CLEARLY, orders were given NOT TO SHOOT down the flight that crashed into the Pentagon.

The question is WHY WOULD FIGHTERS TARGET 93 and NOT TARGET the flight that crashed into the Pentagon?

The only possible conclusion is that the Pentagon flight was headed for its designated target, whereas flight 93 WAS NOT.

Another thing that's odd is why don't they refer to the flight that hit the Pentagon by its flight number?

Don't they know which plane hit the Pentagon?

This is mind boggling - how did all this crucial information and its implications escape us for so long?

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qrswave | Sat, 2007-03-03 01:51

There’s a bit of confusion. Some (including Cheney and Rumsfeld) say Flight 93 was shot down. Others say the plane landed at Cleveland airport.

SHOT DOWN

During a surprise Christmas Eve trip to Iraq in 2004, Rumsfeld said, “I think all of us have a sense if we imagine the kind of world we would face if … people who attacked the United States in New York, SHOT DOWN THE PLANE OVER PENNSYLVANIA and attacked the Pentagon…”

On the Sept. 16, 2001, edition of NBC's "Meet the Press," CHENEY said, “The president made the decision ... that if the plane would not divert ... as a last resort, our pilots were authorized to take them out.”
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42112

Several eyewitnesses saw an unmarked military-style plane flying around United Airlines Flight 93 before the jet crashed.

Witnesses Susan Mcelwain, Dennis Decker, and Rick Chaney were making wooden pallets when they heard an explosion and saw a large mushroom cloud spreading over the ridge. "As soon as we looked up, we saw a mid-sized (military) jet flying low and fast," Decker said. "It made a loop or part of a circle, and then it turned fast and headed out. " Describing the military plane as a Lear-jet type, with engines mounted near the tail and painted white with no identifying markings, Decker said, "If you were here to see it, you'd have no doubt that it was a jet plane, and it was flying real close when Flight 93 went down. If I was the FBI, I'd find out who was driving that plane."

FBI Special Agent William Crowley said investigators could not rule out that a second plane was nearby during the crash. He later said he had misspoke.”
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30682

“Flight 93 was confirmed hijacked at 9:16 am. three F-16s were ordered to 'protect the White House at all costs’ at 9:35 am. Seismographs in southern Pennsylvania registered a sonic boom (60 miles away from Shanksville) at 9:22 am. Flight 93 crashed at Shanksville at 10:06 am.”
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30682

Today The New York Times published transcripts of all three other doomed planes, but never released the full transcripts from Flight 93.

Here’s a detailed explanation of why the plane was shot down… http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/kovach/051011

“Capt. Adriane Craig, an Air Force spokeswoman NORAD, said the military could neither confirm nor deny whether an airplane was following the United 757.”

http://www.flight93crash.com/whole_engine.txt

NO, IT LANDED AT CLEVELAND

Many witnesses claim there was no plane wreckage at all. The following web sites have pictures of an empty crater…

And
http://home.comcast.net/~skydrifter/flt93.htm

FACT: just before Flight 93 crashed, the entire Cleveland airport was evacuated. Every person had to leave immediately. Then a mysterious 757 out of Boston landed at the airport after Flight 93 supposedly crashed. This is known as the “Cleveland Airport Mystery.”

On the morning of 9-11, the Associated Press reported that Flight 93 made an emergency landing at Cleveland Airport. Cleveland's Mayor Michael R. White said the plane landed due to suspicion that it had a bomb aboard. According to the official version, however, Flight 93 crashed near Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

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Some web sites say the control towers at Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and Johnston airports were all evacuated just before the supposed crash.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&add...

The Pittsburgh Post Gazette confirms the control tower evacuation…
http://www.post-gazette.com/neigh_city/20010923city0923p5.asp

This web site confirms that the Johnston airport control tower was also evacuated…
http://www.team8plus.org/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.20

More on the Cleveland Airport Mystery…
http://www.libertythink.com/2004/06/911-cleveland-airport-mystery.html
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THE ONLY THING WE CAN BE SURE OF IS THAT THE BUSH REGIME ENGINEERED 9-11 WITH MOSSAD’S HELP.

Abdul-Alhazred | Sat, 2007-03-03 04:08

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First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

Masher1 | Sat, 2007-03-03 05:12

Cheney's fighter jets would not have shot down the projectile targeted at the Pentagon. That was the Cheney / Rumsfeld operation - dozens of DoD personnel killed (cf. with thousands in a war launched on a false prospectus), and a plane that was either unmanned or mostly carrying technical planners who had to be silenced anyway.

Cheney & Co had seen two planes steered into the Towers, and must have suspected the Khazars. The Bush admin were probably unaware of UA 93's intended target (WTC7), and would have opted to shoot it down. They already had the casus belli to wage war on Afghanistan and Iraq.

The non-referral to "Flight 77" supports the theory that there was no Flight 77.

As for the Cleveland airport landing, that story was promoted by Greg Szymanski, a disinformation specialist who creates red herrings to steer readers away from Israel ansd Zionism. According to Szymanski, the Jesuits and the Vatican are the real power behind the New World Order. Szymanski also promotes a theory that the US military are in contact with "aliens" from the vicinity of Arcturus. Known as the "Tall Whites", these creatures are said to live for 800 years, grow to over eight feet tall in the second half of their lifespan, are able to run at 40 mph, and bark like dogs and chirp like birds. Greg Szymanski's source is a sci-fi writer. As a general rule, it is probably not a good idea to trust someone whose name (or a grandparent's name) has the -ski or -sky appendage.

The Cleveland landing could have happened, but there is little evidence to support it, and we have no need to argue for it. I would favor the simpler theory that Flight 93 was shot down.

Poseidon | Sat, 2007-03-03 06:21

however, the evidence that the rest of us have is pretty revealing, in my opinion.

Look at any other film footage, pictures, etc., of an actual plane crash and it becomes quite clear that a 757 DID NOT crash into the Pentagon. The hole simply was not large enough to support the GOV (government's official version), nor was there any debris of plane wreckage stown over the Pentagon lawn. I've also seen additional videos on YT of other witnesses confirming that it was not a commercial jet. More likely, it was UAV (unmaned aerial vehicle) that was purposely aimed at it's specific target per Cheney's orders.

Regarding Flight 93 - look at the Shanksville photos, folks. NO FREAKIN' PLANE DEBRIS!!!! All they gave us was a small hole. Again, the GOV does not support the evidence. Independent journalist, Christopher Bollyn, states that 93 landed in Cleveland. I'm not a promoter of Loose Change, but Avery's film mentions it, as well.


In the meantime, and based on the huge lack of evidence, I'm more inclined to believe the alternative theory that Flight 93's passengers are alive probably living on some remote island.

whitewraithe | Sat, 2007-03-03 09:05

The following interview is excellent.

Bollyn has clearly documented the roles of hardcore Zionists such as Zakheim, Netanyahu, Silverstein, Zelikow, Emmanuel, Chertoff in 9/11 and the coverup. That's an abbreviated list.

Who did the deal to privatize the WTC and load up on insurance? Did the 911 short selling trace back to the Vatican or Israel? Was it an Israeli or Vactican owned company that ran security at Logan and Newark? Was it Zionists or Jesuits who ran the 911 investigation and 911 Commission? I just can't figure it out, and oddly the media won't lift a finger. I tend to think the Syzmanski's compass is a tad skewed. The Bollyn interviews are most helpful.

Bollyn exposes the Zionist connections to the corrupt city government in Cleveland, where local news reporters wrote that Flight 93 landed at the Cleveland airport and were taken to a NASA building.
He shows the evidence that the Zionists are the masterminds of 9/11.

www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmithInterviewsBollyn.html

Listen to the above first, and then try these:

www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmithInterviewsBollyn-Simon.html

www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmithInterviewsBollyn-Simon.html

Fester | Sat, 2007-03-03 09:32

How come we have no people coming foward, even fake frauds, who'd vow that they were on the second flight force landed at Ohio's airport? We have someone from flight 1989, but none from the other plane? No if we are supposed to believe that there was no other plane then something is terribly wrong there.

good luck to everyone

alfa3647 | Sat, 2007-03-03 15:45

or reliance on evidence that is not well accepted is not helpful.

Without dismissing any theory, I prefer to run with that which is irrefutable - DICK CHENEY ordered fighter jets to stand down re: the pentagon flight.

This is more than enough to subpoena the MF for grand jury testimony. Or - AT THE VERY LEAST - under oath before Congress.

Enough pussy footing. This man has to be taken down.

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qrswave | Sat, 2007-03-03 17:12

Of course, the Zionist Khazar Mafia of self-styled "Jews" were behind the WTC 1, 2 (link), and 7 (link) demolitions, the remote takeover of in-flight aircraft (note that Dov Zakheim took legal action to get an article removed from the truthseeker website), the insurance scam, the short-selling, the 9/11 Commission, the cover-up, the creation of a new "Pearl Harbor" to trick "Western democracies" (i.e., Rothschildian elected dictatorships) into "fighting Israel's enemies" (i.e., aiding the Khazar Mafia's program for a fascist global dictatorship, now more like an autoimmune disease rather than a case of the sniffles). A Commission is set up to investigate the crime of the century, perpetrated by the Khazar tribe who have exploited Judaism for the last 1,200 years in their program for world domination. It turns out that the Commission is headed by Philip Zelikow, a Jewish writer and professor of history who, back in 1998, wrote of a "transforming event" rather like "Pearl Harbor", which would "divide our past and future into a before and after". Silverstein's connections with Netanyahu and Israeli political leaders are well documented.

But with Cheney and Rumsfeld tricked into carrying out the Pentagon attack, the administration had no choice but to cover for the Zionist Mafia's WTC demolitions and embezzlement of $2+ trillion from the Pentagon.

Poseidon | Sat, 2007-03-03 18:40

by Joe Quinn is posted on Signs of the Times at Evidence That a Frozen Fish Didn't Impact the Pentagon on 9/11 and Neither Did a Boeing 757. This is one of the most technical, if not logical essays I've read that overwhelmingly debunks the GOV of Pentagate.

whitewraithe | Sat, 2007-03-03 18:58

Well i don't give a crap what you do with that lying sack of shit but posting THAT fracking url ANY whare around me is gong to get some notice.

Daryl Bradford Smith is a habitual liar. And spreading his lies or ANY DBS URL's is sort of retarded.

First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

Masher1 | Sat, 2007-03-03 21:56

Masher, nice petulanat outburst, but next time provide some facts for people to evaluate. Otherwise, no one much give's the proverbial rat's ass.

Smith has a fine interview with Bollyn on the history of Odigo, the Israeli military, and the sundry criminals festering behind it.

Enjoy:
www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Bollyn_30Aug2006.html

Fester | Sat, 2007-03-03 22:51

Whatever Dude. If you are posting his URL's Your not going to listen to me. There are many places YOU you own self can find out about Daryl,Eric,Chris and many others Lies direct.

Here is one i found go have a look for your own good.
http://www.bluwiki.org/go/Daryl_Bradford_Smith

(And really posting DBS URL's really does make you look retarded.)

I know Plenty about this dude. I also have listened to all 3 of those shows as well as every other one he did up to march 05 and i can tell you that there are FAR better places to get information.

First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

Masher1 | Sat, 2007-03-03 23:24

and not one without lies of some sort. In early 06 he goes into MySpace i go and join his friend list. The bullshit he started spouting in the early days of 06' really caused me to question DBS and his WHOLE show. So i Closed my MySpace account. After deleting around 100 comments and leaving. Then after he spouted off about how he kicked me off his friends list when he did not do anything of the sort. I.E. he lied. He does it all the time.

And if you have listened to every one of his shows you should have MANY issues with the French Connection. If not then you are lost.
First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

Masher1 | Sat, 2007-03-03 23:39

ExhibitA:
http://mathaba.net/news/?x=540709
see comments.

So as to the DBS dude his credibility will ALWAYS be shot as does the cred of any of the folks willing to be interviewed by him.

First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

Masher1 | Sat, 2007-03-03 23:47

I can see why you might have problems with DBS. I rate him as just a little to quick to label others as gatekeepers and shills. I can not glean, from any of your comments here or on mathaba, what your precise beef is with DBS.

I also can't see why you refer to ICH as a 'Dictator like place' in your comments on mathaba. What has Tom done to you?

Sullivan | Sun, 2007-03-04 00:07

The way he wields a BAN for one thing. The thing he glosses over by omitting is another. iwas a real watcher of ICH i started commenting there years ago. But just like DBS the guy just seemd to want more messes never a push of good helpful stories. Just a constant drone of finger pointing. never even a hint that they wnt ANYTHING to go good. I guess i just got tired of the doom and gloom he sells.

The real kicker was his reason to ban me. His loss i say and to be truthful getting the stories directly is far better than using ICH. Anyhoo.

First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

Masher1 | Sun, 2007-03-04 00:21

The way he wields a BAN for one thing.

As far as I am aware he has only ever banned for abusive behaviour.

The thing he glosses over by omitting is another. i was a real watcher of ICH i started commenting there years ago.

I have been there too, and it has improved considerably since it moved to ichblog.eu.

But just like DBS the guy just seemd to want more messes never a push of good helpful stories. Just a constant drone of finger pointing.

I think ICH is considerably more than finger-pointing, and has regular excellent articles from the likes of Mike Whitney and Charles Sullivan. ICH is focussed on the news and for that reason could seem a little dark.

never even a hint that they wnt ANYTHING to go good. I guess i just got tired of the doom and gloom he sells.

We live in a pretty messed-up world, and the postings on ICH and any number of other similar popular sites reflects that
fact.

By the way, DBS is an entirely different kettle of fish. He spends most of his time bad-mouthing 9/11 truthers who don't share precisely his opinion. As far as I am concerned, anyone seeking to divide opinion is not to be trusted. Not one of us has the full picture.

Sullivan | Sun, 2007-03-04 00:30

Now Daryl is on the other hand is far more involved than it appears. I would go as far as to say that DBS and his show is one of the ways that this Banker Elite steer there particular crowd. A very large crowd of folks too. Now if you ask does Daryl offer any helpful thing you can do to counter Zionism? Any little tricks that hurt them? Or does he provide any concrete proofs of even 10% of the thing he claims? does he use questionable content to educate with? After i ask this of each show i have archived i all ways come up with No,No,No,No always. And i have 60 shows! this is a major problem. I think DBS is CIA damage control. Spin Plain and simple.

First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

Masher1 | Sun, 2007-03-04 00:35

Masher, you make many accusations against DBS in your list of his programs but, for example, under your listing for DBS' show with Capt. James Ennes you claim that the "Egyptian court dismisses case against PM." You provide no date or source for this and a Google search only listed your site. Yet there are many sources which document this atrocity. http://www.umassd.edu/specialprograms/mideastaffairs/witness2.htm

http://web.archive.org/web/20031211100314/http://www.mideastfacts.com/po...

You also give credence to Michael Oren on the attack of the USS Liberty. Oren's claims have been refuted time and again on the www.ussliberty.org site as well as many others.

Tango | Sun, 2007-03-04 01:50

Masher, fascinating multi-volume whine.

Daryl Bradford Smith may have harshly banned someone. Big f#ckin deal. No one really gives a shit.

His shows consistently turn up very important details regarding Zionist involvement in 911 and other crimes. He and Bollyn are clearly on the right track as NewSlut Extraordinaire Paul Zahn has been forced to try to smear both of them. Bollyn has additionally had his arm broken and been tasered by Homeland Security pigs.

Your extended and exceedingly lame postings strongly suggest that you are an idiot or troll or both.

Fester | Sun, 2007-03-04 05:11

And so are his defenders. And to the WIKI i had nothing to do with the info on his shows there.
He may reveal all manner of info BUT how am i supposed to trust ANY info he reveals if he is a known lier? Once i used to let a bit of BS slide but after the amount of dreck this dude has spouted i don't trust a single word he says anymore. And if you are on his show YOU are by association looking just as Questionable. Same with the URL parrots on his audio files. You all look questionable.

I don't give examples because i am NOT going to listen to all that crap again to show you where to look for Smith doing nefarious thing with his podcast. I just content my self to warning folks that Daryl is a lier and trusting him for any reason is foolish. believe me or not i don't give a rats anus.

First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

Masher1 | Sun, 2007-03-04 05:42

The video of Norman Mineta's testimony is safely preserved for posterity. There are sources where the file may be downloaded, e.g. whatreallyhappened. 9-11 Research has a page on Cheney and the Mineta testimony here, pointing out that Mineta's account makes more sense if Cheney's orders were NOT to defend the Pentagon (as all 9/11 skeptics would suspect). And in any case, the official transcript is available here (and has been cached by the 9-11 Research site).

The criminals have to argue that Cheney's orders were to shoot down the putative Flight 77, but the young man bizarrely kept questioning this at 50, 30, and 10 miles out, when shoot-down would be the logical response to a hijacked aircraft headed for the Pentagon. But they must also insist that regular office compartment fires can melt tons of structural steel and partly boil steel members in a skyscraper that was not even hit by a plane. The crooks must assert that Islamic fundamentalists are prone to drinking, gambling, visiting strip bars, and speculating on stock options of companies involved in airlines, reinsurance, financial services, weapons manufacturing, etc. The genocidal Mafia that plotted 9/11 must claim that no one had ever conceived that terrorists might use planes as guided missiles when in fact this had been widely known for years since the "Bojinka plot" and in March 2001 the Fox TV network had aired an X-Files spin-off that involved a US government plot to crash a hijacked Boeing into the World Trade Center, that "suicide hijackers" were simultaneously so skilled that they knew how to turn off an aircraft transponder - but still flunked a chance to fly a Cessna at a flight school and practised piloting a Boeing 757 or 767 with an Arabic language flight training manual on the way to the airport, that airport, train and bus video cameras mysteriously fail whenever Islamic hijackers or bombers are on the job, that it was just coincidence that Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu's father Benzion was secretary to Ze'ev "Vladimir" Jabotinsky, who founded the Zionist terrorist movement that played an important part in the creation of Israel (e.g. King David hotel bombing, conspiracy to assassinate British foreign secretary Ernest Bevin), or that Bibi was a unit team leader in Sayeret Matkal, an elite special forces unit of the Israeli Defense Force, and just happened to be in New York City in the morning of 9/11 and in London on the morning of the 7/7 attacks (having received advance warning), and is a close friend of Larry Silverstein who, along with Zionist billionaire and "Holocaust survivor" Frank Lowy, just happened to have taken over the World Trade Center lease and ensured the Towers were insured for billions of dollars against terrorist attacks within six weeks of 9/11. And the tin-foil crackpots hold that it was just a coincidence that Rabbi Dov Zakheim had access to Boeings and to the very Flight Termination System incorporating a Command Transmitter that was capable of electronically hijacking a plane and crashing it into a building, no suicide or Cessna drop-out pilots required. Another spooky coincidence concerned the massive Israeli spy-ring that was busted around the time of the attacks, and the five "dancing Israelis" caught celebrating and filming the burning Towers, whilst in possession of foreign passports, box cutters, $4,700 cash hidden in a sock, and a van that tested positive for traces of explosives.

It is sometimes amusing to see the tangled hoops that the Likud party tries to jump through, claiming that its only wish is for peace, but it is thwarted by Palestinian "terrorists", "dictatorial Arab regimes", "Muslim fundamentalism and nazism", etc. When they quote the Tehran Times' (2002) compilation of evidence that Israel did 9/11, the Likudniks actually do a pretty good job of proving the Iranians are very much in touch with reality.

Those who have lost loved ones in the attacks attempt to believe in the Zionist-concocted 'reality', but clearly have a hard time imagining how terrorists could be so lucky and governments so inept.

In short, the official 9/11 conspiracy theory - and the criminals' defense - is based on junk science, junk psychology, junk logic, junk math, junk history, and junk politics. And for "junk", read "Khazar".

Poseidon | Sun, 2007-03-04 06:41

- is Justice Denied..... At this rate, Cheney will be long dead from natural causes, before anybody ever nails his sorry ass to the wall.

quasimodo | Sun, 2007-03-04 07:17

The author of the bluwiki "debunking" of DBS is an infamous Zionist propagandist and "Holocaust" promoter, so of course he will call Smith a liar. Although I believe some of Hufschmid and Bollyn's actions have been very suspicious and they were caught lying, e.g. about AFP "censoring" Bollyn's articles, there remains a considerable volume of good anti-Zionist information on the DBS site and it should not be written off. (Daryl just does the talking; Eric Hufschmid and Christopher Bollyn write the articles.) None of us can be 100% right, but if people follow Bollyn's work, they will at least be looking in the right direction.

Poseidon | Sun, 2007-03-04 08:00

Folks, I am not saying this lightly as I am a proud anti-Zionist myself and member of this blog.

http://www.ziopedia.org

But the true evil behind all of this bullcrap, and I do mean everywhere, is the Jesuit order.

You don't know anything about their history do you, or WHAT they actually want!???

Do you know what Hagee wants and other Jesuit servants and slaves of the Knights of Malta!?!?

They want the whole country destroyed!!!!! They want every self styled jew killed, except a few of their khazarian puppets just to feast on their remains.

The Jesuit order wants to completely dismantle everything. They are the embodiment of what this evil illuminati is, originally called "alumbrados"

Even the FBI knows who these traitorous vanguards are.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2007/020307okcinvestigation.ht...

Think about that for once. I don't like Alex Jones much but this is correct, Strassmier is a fraud.

Strassmier belongs to the Jesuit Order. He's a Roman Catholic.

FOLKS do not pretend to know all the answers!!!! Not every criminal hides behind a Jewish veneer, many of the worst are simply Roman Catholics!

They PRETEND to be anything, period!!

http://www.arcticbeacon.com

Greg Szymanski is not lying and he is not ignorant, either!

The Jesuit order controls the Zionists who helped Cheney bring down those towers.

The Jesuit order controls both the Zionists, and the Ayatollahs and has for many years.

Vladmir Putin the so called freedom fighter is in the pocket of the Jesuit order.

Are you aware of just how dispicable and evil this is at all?

http://a-loon.blogspot.com

Folks, Israel and Saudi are all a means to an end for the Jesuit Order to destroy the Middle East and install its "one world religion". Do not pretend that this doesn't exist!!!! I agree with Daryl Smith too, but he is flat WRONG on all counts with who is the one at the top.

http://www.illuminaticonfessions.webfriend.it

The Jesuit Order is purely Satan period, we were visited by these bastard child Jesuits. And no, they were not scary looking fake jews nor were they aliens.

They were white, racist homophobic religious zealots.

And they had a black Jesuit in a suit preaching about the "re-emergence" of Jesus.

It was truly disturbing, and chilling stuff. He carried a black bible, and left a "blessing" on our house in the mail!

For gods sake, do you know what happens to anyone who gets blessings from the Pope!?!? Look it up!!!!

If that wasn't horriffic enough as it is, they talked about the coming crucifixtion. Evidently they were very angered by our outspoken call for the arrest of the Jesuits.

So angered, they tried to bring us into their "communion". This sickening crap is known as the time where all "heathens" will accept Jesus and submit their "prayer papers" to the minister on the day of mass.
There, they physically drink wine as it was blood and crucify Jesus again for all "sinners". They "eat him as if it was the flesh" and have a disturbing stomach turning ritual that they even do to Jews and Protestants in their congregation. I never want to see these people as long as I live, I want to see them in jail for gods sake!

GulfofSanity | Sun, 2007-03-04 19:08

Hey thanks for your comment!

I do not pretend to know everything. There is so much misinformation out there that there really is no way of knowing for certain WHO is behind all this insanity.

But, clearly - SOMEONE is. At this point, it's good enough to expose LIARS wherever they are and WHOEVER they are - Jesuit or Jew, Muslim or Maronite, Christian or Catholic.

It doesn't matter - route out the LIARS and route out the SUPREMACISTS - all of them traitors to humanity.

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qrswave | Sun, 2007-03-04 19:16

And Coulson is correct!!!

Don't stop now, the only way we will stop these bastards now after the evil they have done is with the Grand Jury!!!

http://www.fija.org

It is about time the Grand Jury is convened for Oklahoma City!!!!!

Bring them down!!!!! Bring the Jesuits down period, and down goes Bill Clinton, his Zionist sockpuppets, and Hillary with them once the Oklahoma City investigation steamrolls into multiple Grand Jury investigations.

The only power we have left now that the Jesuits never got a hold of, is not this "fake notion of Jesus", but the Grand and Trial Juries.

Its time to use them, and once and for all indict these Jesuit bastards and bring them to their knees. Then with them, all the Khazar and Moslem freaks will fall.

GulfofSanity | Sun, 2007-03-04 19:34

But, for the record, I am a devout Muslim and I believe that Jesus, the son of the Virgin Mary, is one of God's prophets.

However, I agree - let's indict the criminals that are destroying our world!

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qrswave | Sun, 2007-03-04 19:42

I'm talking about the radical Mullahs, the Black Brotherhood that is too a controlled opposition.

http://www.arcticbeacon.com

Yes I can concur.

GulfofSanity | Sun, 2007-03-04 19:54

Gulf of Insanity, Please slither back over to Ziopedia, or whatever other self respecting blog won't have you either. The only worse plague this blog could ever be prone to, other than periodic infestations of Zionist maggots, is Jezuist Conspiracy Zionist lizards like yourself. For such imputations as you espouse, Ignatius of Loyola would lop off your sniveling Zionist shnozzola, in a heartbeat. May the Black Pope rot all your potatoes.

quasimodo | Sun, 2007-03-04 20:01

http://www.illuminatifriends.webfriend.it

Look it up for your own sakes, there is much more to this conspiracy than a simple Zionist or 50 muslims.

http://illuminati-news.com/black-nobility.htm

None of it is a LIE, all of it is verifiable facts!!!!

Learn what the Jesuit Order actually is before its too late. I am not related to any zionist either. I am a anti-zionist, who refuses to ignore the real evil including in the catholic church.

May the so called "Ignatius Loyola" and his purveyors rot in damnation or turn themselves in for their sins.....Loyola isn't alive any longer.

GulfofSanity | Sun, 2007-03-04 20:11

http://www.tacklingthetoughtopics.net

Never just dismiss anything out of hand, read and consider everything you see.

GulfofSanity | Sun, 2007-03-04 20:15

A whole lot of cash seems to be flowing into the Trolls dish. I have been seeing there paid "poops" all over the net last week. I guess there going to try that "surge" crap too. Good luck with that. We still outnumber you 10,000 to 1...

First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

Masher1 | Sun, 2007-03-04 20:28

Thank you for that, Quasimodo!

Despite what Masher tries to claim, there has been a marked increase recently of accusations that the Vatican, the “Black Pope,” the Jesuits, etc. are behind every plot. I have wondered who exactly is behind this—the Zionists and their “Christian” puppets or the Christian fundamentalists who seem to hate the Catholic Church so much?

The Vatican, as well as the Jesuits have strongly condemned the invasion of Iraq and the continuing killing there, yet the same groups who also oppose this war, would rather alienate Catholics than garner their support at a time when we all need to band together.

Are these attacks on Bradford Smith also due to the fact that he doesn’t support the ridiculous claims against the Catholic Church?

Tango | Sun, 2007-03-04 22:32

Uses his podcast to sow DIS-INFO. He is a lier. And he is not to be trusted. How lazy do you have to be to follow him? he may in fact cover tons of important stuff BUT he is a PhD level bullshit artist. The level of the BS is surely up for interpretation but he is a known lier. So as a result nothing he says is to be trusted. I mean if you start at page one of this blog and read the entire thing (including comments+links) you would have far more Peer reviewed SOLID information. Upon review of 4 random shows i cannot believe the things he tries to claim.
As i said not one of his shows is Without important distortions or out and out lies. not one. And i have 60 of em.

And i sure would like to assure you all that trying to point and say bunk like
"Are these attacks on Bradford Smith also due to the fact that he doesn’t support the ridiculous claims against the Catholic Church?"
and trying to infer something are useless. Daryl is a lier. plain and simple.

Attacks? well if you call it attacking him by pointing at his known flaws as a self confessed 'witness'. Sure i am attacking his credibility. He is surely due. He wants to be in the shadows well he can be a little more truthful. If he hopes for anything more than 'Attacks' on his shady character he needs to stop the lies. Simple.

First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

Masher1 | Sun, 2007-03-04 23:13

I'm was not very political until 9/11 but EVERYONE should read The Zionist conspiracy to divide the Arab states into small units at www.freearabvoice.org/ZionistConspiracy_DivideTheArabWorld.htm.

What we've seen in Iraq and soon Iran is unmistakeably to the benefit of Israel rather than the Pope and Vatican. Likewise, the people around 9/11 are Israelis not Jesuits.

I don't know about this Daryl Smith, but the clear signs point to Israeli/Zionist work. Aum

Lotus | Sun, 2007-03-04 23:44

Here we go with the "Jesuits did it" again. Okay, I have to admit I thought, maybe, we were being led astray at one time too; that the Catholic Church might be behind all the world's ills.

After more research, I came to the conclusion that the Jesuit agenda is simply more disinformation meant to confuse the uninformed masses. This doesn't mean that the Jesuits are lily-white in this whole convoluted affair, they play some sort of role in the Zionist takeover of the world (Rothschild owns the Vatican Bank, right?), but the evidence clearly doesn't attribute them as being the propagators orchestrating world events.

I don't care what Leo Zagami says! If the Illuminati Jesuits were as powerful as we've been led to believe, this man would not be breathing right now. More than likely, he's a Zionist shill, plant, or agent.

Look at the evidence:

Who owns the World Bank? Jewish Zionists.

Who owns the IMF (International Monetary Fund)?
Jewish Zionists.

Who owns and operates the Federal Reserve?
Jewish Zionists.

Who controls the American Government?
AIPAC and B'nai B'rith, all Jewish Zionists.

Also look at the history of the Catholic Church. At one time the Holy Roman Empire was the most powerful and influential presence on earth, but they fell just as Zionist Israel will, one day, fall. And I might add that it's now been conclusively proven that Pope John Paul II was half Jewish. In addition, Zionists infiltrated Catholicism with Vatican II changing and basically corrupting the way Catholics worshiped Christ. Zionists are also responsible for the probable assassination of, at least, two Popes, the first Pope John Paul being one. Also refer to The Plot Against the Church by Maurice Pinay, and Cardinal Siri and the Plot Against the Pope.

If anything, it is the ZIONISTS who are controlling the Jesuits! Wake up!

whitewraithe | Mon, 2007-03-05 00:02

I see this. Jewish IDF troopers doing as they please killing and raping Palestine as they see fit. I don't see Catholic/Jesuit persons doing this stuff. Sure they do a pretty good job of subverting the bible and that pedophile thing .. whatever. the israeli is seen! And been caught! Doing a ton of nefarious shit. The Black Pope crap is just more Hollywood CIA gutter noise. this Jesuits crap poped its head the second the fester post rattled out. I will say this LAME.

Lame and retarded.

First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

Masher1 | Mon, 2007-03-05 00:26

Leo Zagami is right up there with Szymanski in his fabricated claims about the Catholic Church. Posted on Zagami’s Web site was the absurd claim that Pope John Paul II “who sold cyanide to the Nazis for use in Auschwitz” and that “after the war the salesman, fearing for his life, joined the Catholic Church.” Zagami has since (it was there as of 2/27/07) deleted that entry, even the cached page.

Karol Wojtyla was forced to work for the Nazis after they occupied Poland. He worked in a quarry in 1940 and later he was transferred to the Solvay chemical plant where he worked in the water purification unit.

As to his joining the Catholic Church “after the war,” this is completely inaccurate. Pope John Paul II came from a very devout family and was already a seminarian during the war. And I cannot imagine where it was “proven conclusively” that he was half-Jewish.

On the subject of pedophilia in the Church, there was an interesting study done by Philip Jenkins, a Episcopalian professor of history and religious studies at Pennsylvania State University where he pointed out that the problem of pedophilia was no more prevalent in the Catholic Church than in any other denomination. "You name me a denomination and I'll give you a case," Philip Jenkins told The Catholic Standard & Times, Philadelphia archdiocesan newspaper. "Some (denominations) with huge problems include Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Buddhists, Jews, Baptists, Pentecostals, Episcopalians -- you name them."

"My research of cases over the past 20 years indicates no evidence whatever that Catholic or other celibate clergy are any more likely to be involved in misconduct or abuse than clergy of any other denomination -- or indeed, than nonclergy. However determined news media may be to see this affair as a crisis of celibacy, the charge is just unsupported."
http://clarionherald.org/20020410/art502.htm

Tango | Mon, 2007-03-05 02:13

Wow! I just finished listening to the interview with Bollyn on Odigo and I am stunned. I knew it was an Israeli company that had sent warnings on 9/11 but I did NOT know about its ties to the Israeli military establishment or the other companies which follow this pattern.

Masher says that Smith is a liar. I didn't hear anything that sounded dishonest. What are other people's views on his credibility? I am planning to listen to more. Aum

Lotus | Mon, 2007-03-05 02:28

Wes Penre, who owns the domain www.illuminati-news.com, claims to have been physically attacked by a "reptilian" in his bedroom. Since by his own admission, it happened as he was in the stage between being awake and being asleep, where you are still aware of your environment, but are slowly entering "dreamland", it appears that he had a hypnagogic hallucination, if not a nightmare. Sensing a malevolent "presence", sensation of a weight on the chest, vividness, and feelings of paralysis and of being unable to breathe are all common features of hypnagogia.

Maybe Penre had undergone some sort of reptile experience earlier that day, such as seeing a lizard or hearing a news item about them. His mistake is that it can appear that "you are still aware of your environment", but that is an illusion.

There was one time that I dreamed about being in some weird kind of electrical storm and having to duck to avoid lightning that flashed a few feet above the ground; it seemed as if "the gods" were trying to get me. A few days later when I looked at my diary, I realised that the day before the dream (about 1980) I had bought an anti-static pistol to treat my vinyl records. As for the hypnagogia, I have had only mild experiences such as a sensation of people being around, a vague sense of paralysis, and a feeling that I had the choice of drifting off to sleep or awakening. There can be a sensation of a crescendo of noise, which would explain Penre's imagining the reptile roaring. The instances that I recall are probably where I opted against sleep.

If an advanced alien species wanted to conquer earth, they would select a tribe as their "chosen race", write them a "Protocols" showing them how to take control of the media, the banks, governments, etc. Their procedure would be the exact opposite of the Iraq invasion.

But these theories are unsupported conjecture. All the evidence is that the master criminals are Zionist Khazars, not Jesuits or Saudis or Pakistanis or tall whites or reptoids. Those who believe in theories of Jesuits or reptoids as the movers and shakers appear to be inexperienced evaluators chasing chimeras that have been tipped by disinfo decoys or deluded dilettantes or degenerates.

Poseidon | Mon, 2007-03-05 02:53

That he uses a MIXTURE of truth first and lies after. All a bias that in a "All doors watched net" This guy is used to ensnare with fancy talk and a compelling line the naive and new line of truth seekers uses every trick he can to keep you doing NOTHING. Then he can add his agenda bias to his movments. This bias is all related to the thing he whines about constantly that are hurting his numbers or lack of results on all those URL zombies.

I'm certainly not saying every single thing he says is a lie. But with a clear head and a whole bunch of his Mp3 files and you will see how easly he weaves the bankers programming into his own form of ADL like logic like Cryptojew,zionist and the like. If the facts don't agree with his views he calls them some disparaging remark then totally fails to prove the facts are in error contrary to his shows claims. This use Truth To Deceive by mingling baloney with lots of truths in select ways is as old a espionage is. He OMITS Plenty. He is not stupid. He is an skilled and very long minded deceiver. Listen to his descriptions of the Wolf in sheep's clothing places around 9/11 movement. Seems to have a keen knowledge of the WHOLE deception game. As i have said 60 files as evidence i rate Daryl Bradford Smith is CIA. If DBS and his Mp3 files are your source of any topic you need better sources. He will always be around to hook the lesser minded who fail to fact check. Try this directly find and challenge Daryl directly. I bet you get terse unsatisfactory answers to your questions.

First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

Masher1 | Mon, 2007-03-05 04:08

Masher1, after listening to the Odigo interview, I've spent the rest of the day listening to the other Smith-Bollyn interviews (www.iamthewitness.com/ByPerson.html).

You said,

"you will see how easly he weaves the bankers programming into his own form of ADL like logic like Cryptojew,zionist and the like...mingling baloney with lots of truths in select ways is as old a espionage is. He OMITS Plenty."

Please explain what you mean. I have found the interviews to be full of facts I was not aware of. No wonder Bollyn was attacked! I really don't see what you are complaining about.

Can you support what you claim with 3 or 4 specific, factual cases? Aum

Lotus | Mon, 2007-03-05 10:22

I want to - but, have not had time.

However, I have read and heard things by him that make good sense.

And I am inclined to keep an open mind when reading work by people who appear to share my values and exhibit a good ability to reason logically.

I decide, based on logic and reason and my own knowledge base, what I believe and what I reject.

But, even if I reject some of a person's theories, as long as I believe that we share the same values, I will continue to keep an open mind about his or her work.

I think Chris Bollyn falls into that category of people.

In this eternal struggle, the fault lines are drawn not by what you know - none of us knows everything - but by what you value.

Anyone who has proven him or herself to reject supremacism and strive for truth is someone I can work with.

And, in seeking truth, all of us make mistakes. So, it's important to keep an open mind and remain forgiving.

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"Money" has no value - people do.

qrswave | Mon, 2007-03-05 10:34

Qrswave, I was NOT a political person before 9/11 and only became one after seeing Loose Change. I was lucky to run into a few sites which educated me about our "special" relationship with Israel and was even more shocked.

When I read the dispute here over Daryl Smith, I started listening to the interviews with Bollyn. There is an incredible amount of detail on Zionist invovlement. I finished listening to this interview today and was shocked to hear that the people from Simon family that is tied to Lee "9/11 Commission" Hamilton have backed Loose Change financially. Wow! I wish I knew how to research to confirm these things on my own, but I do know a little about Lee Hamilton's past.

I would love to hear your opinion of this interview sometime. Aum

www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmithInterviewsBollyn-Simon.html

Lotus | Mon, 2007-03-05 10:56

Smith is CIA.

Trust me or not.

First you take D.C. Then you take New York.

Masher1 | Mon, 2007-03-05 20:39

Lotus: You can find a good archive of Chris Bollyn's articles, which he provides for free, at Smith's French Connection. There is a Chris Bollyn link on the left margin.
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Bollyn.html
The French Connection

-and if I said it once before, I said it a thousand times already, but I'll say it again, anyway. You know that everybody has to learn sometime, and everybody has to be wrong sometime. But as far as most of what Bollyn has been trying so hard to tell us for the last 5 years, you can take it right to the bank. His concise, well written articles are in plain coherent English, as opposed to some participants of this blog, myself included. So "read 'em and weep", as they say in poker parlance, and then see what YOU think.

quasimodo | Mon, 2007-03-05 23:32
whitewraithe | Tue, 2007-03-06 05:02

Libby is down for the counts. Cheney is next.

March 6, 2007 -- Libby Guilty on 4 of 5 Counts. Former Chief of Staff to Vice President Dick Cheney, Irving Lewis "Scooter" Libby was found guilty on four of five counts today by 11 jurors at his trial at the US District Court in Washington, DC. Libby was found guilty of obstruction of justice in lying to the grand jury investigating the outing by the White House of covert CIA agent Valerie Plame Wilson, making a false statement to the FBI about his conversation with NBC Washington Managing Editor Tim Russert, perjury for lying to the grand jury about his conversation with Russert, and perjury for lying to the grand jury about his conversations with other journalists.

Libby: Guilty on 4 of 5 counts.

Libby was found not guilty of making a false statement to the FBI about his conversation with Time magazine's Matt Cooper. Libby faces a maximum sentence of 25 years is prison and a $1 million fine. Libby is free on bail while awaiting appeal. Special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald said he does not expect to file any further charges and the investigation of CIA Leakgate is now inactive. However, Fitzgerald added that if new information is uncovered in the case, there may be other investigations. However, observers believe that any further investigations would entail another special counsel and other grand juries. In addition, the House Judiciary Committee may either ask for or subpoena relevant documents in the prosecution of Libby and, according to committee sources, if the evidence shows that Cheney and Libby conspired to disclose the identity of Plame and her Brewster Jennings CIA front operation, impeachment hearings targeted against Cheney cannot be ruled out.

quasimodo | Wed, 2007-03-07 01:36

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