Some Further Proofs of the Authenticity of the Protocols of Zion...
[As if it even matters -- or their contents and results don't speak sufficiently to that 'question' already, &c.]
A FIFTEENTH CENTURY "PROTOCOL"
The principles and morality of these latter-day Protocols are as old as the tribe. Here is one from the Fifteenth Century which Jews can hardly pronounce a forgery, seeing that it is taken from a Rothschild (ouch) journal. The Revue des etudes Juives, financed by James de Rothschild, ‘published in 1889 two documents which showed how true the Protocols are in saying that the Learned Elders of Zion have been carrying on their plan for centuries. On January 13, 1489, Chemor, Jewish Rabbi of Arles in Provence, wrote to the Grand Sanhedrim, which had its seat in Constantinople, for advice, as the people of Arles were threatening the synagogues. What should the Jews do? This was the reply: "Dear beloved brethren in Moses, we have received your letter in which you tell us of the anxieties and misfortunes which you are enduring. We are pierced by as great pain to hear it as yourselves. "The advice of the Grand Satraps and Rabbis is the following: " 1. As for what you say that the King of France obliges you become Christians: do it, since you cannot do otherwise, but let the law of Moses be kept in your hearts. "2. As for what you say about the command to despoil you of your goods" (the law was that on becoming converted, Jews gave up their possessions); "make your sons merchants, that little by little they may despoil the Christians of theirs. "3. As for what you say about their making attempts on your lives: make your sons doctors and apothecaries, that they may take away Christians’ lives. "4. As for what you say of their destroying your synagogues: make your sons canons and clerics in order that they may destroy their churches. "5. As for the many other vexations you complain of: arrange that your sons become advocates and lawyers, and see that they always mix themselves up with the affairs of State, in order that by putting Christians under your yoke you may dominate the world and be avenged on them. "6. Do not swerve from this order that we give you, because you will find by experience that, humiliated as you are, you will reach the actuality of power. "Signed V.S.S.V.F.F., Prince of the Jews, 21st Caslue (November), 1489" *****
LORD SYDENHAM ON THE "PROTOCOLS"
[The following letter appeared in the Spectator of August 27, 1921, and the late Lord Sydenham kindly consented to its reproduction.]
Sir--When the Protocols first appeared in English it was pointed out that they embodied a forgery perpetrated by the Tsar’s police with the idea of promoting pogroms. It now appears that they are adapted from a "pamphlet of 1865 attacking the Second Empire." This is most interesting, but it explains nothing. As you point out, Mrs. Webster had shown the Protocols to be full of plagiarisms which she effectively explained by the use of parallel columns, and before her most able book appeared Mr. Lucien Wolfe had traced other similarities. As the Protocols were obviously a compilation this was to be expected, and further resemblances may be discovered. The importance of the most sinister compilation that has ever appeared resides in the subject matter. The Protocols explain in almost laborious detail the objects of Bolshevism and the methods of carrying it into effect. Those methods were in operation in 1901, when Nilus said that he received the documents, but Bolshevism was then Marxian Communism, and the time had not come for applying it by military force. Nothing that was written in 1865 can have any bearing upon the deadly accuracy of the forecasts in the Protocols most of which have since been fulfilled to the letter. Moreover the principles they enunciate correspond closely with the recorded statements of Jewish authorities. If you will read the American edition, with its valuable annexes, you will understand this and the confirmatory quotations there given can be multiplied. Even the "Jewish world despotism," which you described as "a piece of malignant lunacy," is not obscurely hinted at. Take this one quotation from the Jewish State, by Theodore Herzl: "When we sink we become a revolutionary proletariat, the subordinate officers of the revolutionary party; when we rise, there rises also our terrible power of the purse." Compare this ominous statement with those of the Protocols, of which it is plainly an echo.
I note with thankfulness that you say that the discovery of the French pamphlet "does not clear up the whole mystery." Indeed it does not, and if you will carefully read Mr. Ford’s amazing disclosures you will wish for more light. The main point is, of course, the source from which Nilus obtained the Protocols. The Russians who knew Nilus and his writings, cannot all have been exterminated by the Bolsheviks. His book, in which the Protocols only form one chapter, has not been translated; though it would give some idea of the man. He was, I have been told by a Russian lady, absolutely incapable either of writing any portion of the Protocols or of being a party to a fraud.
What is the most striking characteristic of the Protocols? The answer is knowledge of a rare kind, embracing the widest field. The solution of the "mystery", if it is one, is to be found by ascertaining where this uncanny knowledge, on which prophecies now literally fulfilled are based, can be shown to reside.
I am, Sir, &c.,
SYDENHAM
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STARTLING NEW DOCUMENTS
The manifesto of Adolphe Cremieux, addressed to the National of Jewry on the occasion of the founding of the Universal Israelite Alliance. This has been pronounced a forgery, and something much less committal -- -especially written for Gentile consumption -- has been produced as the "real" thing. The unfortunate part of the business is that the "forgery" corresponds infinitely more closely with the facts of history than that which is claimed to be genuine! It proclaims three incontrovertible truths: (1) that the Jewish Nation is the enemy of all nations; (2) that Jews claim that they are a people "Chosen" to dominate the whole earth, and take possession of all the riches of all peoples; (3) that the power of all nations is already in their hands, and that Jews think they are on the eve of their complete conquest of the rest of the human race. The date of this Protocol, No. 2 of our series, is 1860
` A PROTOCOL OF 1860
We take this Protocol from the Morning Post of September 6th, 1920:
"A correspondent writing in reference to the hidden perils draws attention to a Manifesto issued in 1860 to the ‘Jews of the Universe,’ by Adolphe Cremieux, the founder of the Alliance Israelite Universelle, and the well-known member of the Provisional Government of 1871. Adolphe Cremieux, while Grand Master of the French Masonic Lodges, offered l,000,000 francs for the head of William I of Germany. On his tomb he requested the following sole inscription to be inscribed:
"’ Here lies Adolphe Cremieux, the founder of the Alliance Israelite Universelle."
THE MANIFESTO
Emblem: On top -- the tablets of Moses, a little lower -- two extended hands clasping each other, and as basis of the whole -- -the globe of the earth.
Motto: "All Jews for one, and one for all."
The union which we desire to found will not be a French, English, Irish, OF German union, but a Jewish one, a Universal one.
Other peoples and races are divided into nationalities; we alone have not co-citizens, but exclusively co-religionaries.
A Jew will under no circumstances become the friend of a Christian or a Moslem before the moment arrives when the light of the Jewish Faith, the only religion of reason, will shine all over the world.
Scattered amongst other nations, who from time immemorial were hostile to our rights and interests, we desire primarily to be and to remain immutably Jews.
Our nationality is the religion of our fathers, and we recognize no other nationality.
We are living in foreign lands, and cannot trouble about the mutable ambitions of countries entirely alien to us, while our own moral and material problems are endangered.
The Jewish teaching must cover the whole earth. Israelites! no matter where fate should lead -- though scattered all over the earth, you must always consider yourselves members of a Chosen Race.
If you realize that the Faith of your forefathers is your only patriotism -- If you recognize that, notwithstanding the nationalities you have embraced, you always remain and everywhere form one and only nation -- If you are convinced of this, you, Israelites of the Universe -- then come and give ear to our appeal and prove to us your consent!
Our cause is great and holy, and its success is guaranteed. Catholicism, our immemorial enemy, is lying in the dust, mortally wounded in the head.
The net which Israel is throwing over the globe of the earth is widening and spreading daily, and the momentous prophecies of our holy books are at last to be realized.
The time is near when Jerusalem will become the house of prayer for all nations and peoples, and the banner of Jewish ’mono-deity' will be unfurled and hoisted on the most distant shores.
Let us avail ourselves of all circumstances.
Our might is immense -- -learn to adopt this might for our cause.
What have you to be afraid of?
The day is not distant when all the riches and treasures of the earth will become the property of the Children of Israel. "
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More than sixty years have elapsed since this Protocol was written, and the riches of the earth are now almost entirely in the possession or under the control of the Children of Israel. The Torah, said the Jew poet, Heine, is the Jews’ "portable Fatherland."
Cremieux says practically the same thing -- "the faith of our fathers is your only patriotism." The Jew regards all non-Jews as foreigners, and he is an alien everywhere.
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FUNERAL ORATION
THE FATAL DISCOURSE OF RABBI REICHHORN
Appended to the prophecies of the Protocol we have put a few of the events which have happened in fulillment. It will be seen that there is a close correspondence between this Protocol, the Cremieux Manifesto, and the epistle emanating from the "Prince of the Jews" in 1489 A.D., and published in a Rothschild magazine. It is probable that when the latter was published it was not imagined that any Gentile would ever think of connecting it with other documents emanating from Jewry, or with modern happenings.
In its issue of 21 October, 1920 (No. 195) La Vieille France published an extremely important Russian document in which the following passage occurs:
"There is a striking analogy between the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and the discourse of the Rabbi Reichhorn, pronounced in Prague in 1869 over the tomb of the Grand Rabbi Simeon-ben-Ihuda, and published by Readcliffe, who paid with his life for the divulgution; Sonol, who had taken Readcliffe to hear Reichhorn, was killed in a duel some time afterwards. The general ideas formulated by the Rabbi are found fully developed in the Protocols. "
In its issue of 10 March, 1921 (No. 214) La Vieille France gives the version of this funeral oration which was published in La Russie Juive. It is perfectly clear that the funeral oration and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion come from one and the same mint. Both are prophetic; and the power which made the prophecies has been able to bring about their fulfillment. This oration is so important that we append to it an account of the fulfillment of each of the sections. There can no longer be any doubt as to whose is the power which is disturbing the world, creating World Unrest, and at the same time reaping all the profits. Jewry is enslaving all Christian peoples of the earth. There IS a Jew World Plot and it now stands finally and completely unmasked. [1921, friends!)
1.Every hundred years, We, the Sages of Israel, have been accustomed to meet in Sanhedrin in order to examine our progress towards the domination of the world which Jehovah has promised us, and our conquests over the enemy -- Christianity.
2. This year, united over the tomb of our reverend Simeon-ben-Ihuda, we can state with pride that the past century has brought us very near to our goal, and that this goal will be very soon attained.
3. GOLD always has been and always will be the irresistible power. Handled by expert hands it will always be the most useful lever for those who possess it, and the object of envy for those who do not. With gold we can buy the most rebellious consciences, can fix the rate of all values, the current price of all products, can subsidize all State loans, and thereafter hold the states at our mercy.
4. Already the principal banks, the exchanges of the entire world, the credits of all the governments, are in our hand.
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5. The other great power is THE PRESS. By repeating without cessation certain ideas, the Press succeeds in the end in having them accepted as actualities. The Theatre renders us analogous services. Everywhere the Press and the Theatre obey our orders.
6. By the ceaseless praise of DEMOCRATIC RULE we shall divide the Christian into political parties, we shall destroy the unity of their nations, we shall sow discord everywhere. Reduced to impotence, they will bow before the LAW OF OUR BANK, always united, and always devoted to our
Cause.
7. We shall force the Christian into wars by exploiting their pride and their stupidity. They will massacre each other, and clear the ground for us to put our own people into.
8. The possession of the land has always brought influence and power. In the name of social Justice and Equality we shall parcel out the great estates; we shall give the fragments to the peasants who covet them with all their powers, and who will soon be in debt to us by the expense of cultivating them. Our capital will make us their masters. We in our turn shall be-ome the great proprietors, and the possession of the land will assure the power to us.
9. Let us try to replace the circulation of gold with paper money; our chests will absorb the gold, and we shall regulate the value of the paper which will make us masters of all the positions.
10. We count among us plenty of orators capable of feigning enthusiasm and of persuading mobs. We shall spread them among the people to announce changes which should secure the happiness of the human race. By gold and by flattery we shall gain the proletariat which will charge itself with annihilating Christian capitalism. We shall promise workmen salaries of which they have never dared to dream, but we shall also raise the price of necessities so that our profits will be
greater still.
11. In this manner we shall prepare Revolutions which the Christians will make themselves and of which we shall reap fruit.
12. By our mockeries and our attacks upon them we shall make their priests ridiculous then odious, and their religion as ridiculous and as odious as their clergy. Then we shall be masters of their souls. For our pious attachment to our own religion, to our own worship, will prove the superiority of our religion and the superiority of our souls.
13. We have already established our own men in all important positions. We must endeavor to provide the Goyim with lawyers and doctors; the lawyers are au courant with all interests; doctors, once in the house, become confessors and directors of consciences.
14. But above all let us monopolize Education. By this means we spread ideas that are useful to us, and shape the children’s brains as suits us.
15. If one of our people should unhappily fall into the hands of justice amongst the Christians, we must rush to help him; find as many witnesses as he needs to save him from his judges, until we become judges ourselves.
16. The monarchs of the Christian world, swollen with ambition and vanity, surround themselves with luxury and with numerous armies. We shall furnish them with all the money their folly demands -- and so shall keep them in leash.
17. Let us take care not to hinder the marriage of our men with Christian girls, for through them we shall get our foot into the most closely locked circles. If our daughters marry Goyim they will be no less useful, for the children of a Jewish mother are ours. Let us foster the idea of free love, that we may destroy among Christian women attachment to the principles and practices of their religion.
18. For ages past the sons of Israel, despised and persecuted, have been working to open up a path to power. They are hitting the mark. They control the economic life of the accursed Christians; their influence preponderates over politics and over manners.
19. At the wished for hour, fixed in advance, we shall let loose the Revolution, which by ruining all classes of Christianity will definitely enslave the Christians to US. THUS WILL BE ACCOMPLISHED THE PROMISE OF GOD MADE TO HIS PEOPLE.
A PROTOCOL OF 1919
A Russian newspaper, Prizyv, of 5th February, 1920, published in Berlin, contained an interesting document in Hebrew, dated December, 1919, which was found in the pocket of the dead Jew Zunder, the Bolshevik Commander of the 11th Sharp-shooter Battalion, throwing light on the secret organizations of Jewry in Russia.
This Protocol has, like the first, never been called in question by the Nation of Jewry. It reveals identically the same plans and purposes of the Jews for World domination and revenge which pervade them all. This one especially gloats over the Jew conquest and enslavement of Russia.
In extenso it ran as follows:
SECRET -- To the representatives of all the branches of the Israelite International League.
Sons of Israel! The hour of our ultimate victory is near. We stand on the threshold to the command of the world. That which we could only dream of before us is about to be realized. Only quite recently feeble and powerless, we can now, thanks to the world’s catastrophe, raise our heads with
pride.
We must, however, be careful. It can surely be prophesied that after we have marched over ruined and broken altars and thrones, we shall advance further on the same indicated path.
The authority of the, to us, alien religions and doctrines of faith we have through very successful propaganda, subjected to a merciless criticism and mockery. We have brought the culture, civilization, traditions and thrones of the Christian nations to stagger. We have done everything to bring the Russian people under the yoke of the Jewish power, and ultimately compelled them to fall on their knees before us.
We have nearly completed all this but we must all the same be very cautious, because the oppressed Russia is our arch-enemy. The victory over Russia, gained through our intellectual superiority, may in the future, in a new generation, turn against us.
Russia is conquered and brought to the ground. Russia is in the agony of death under our heel, but do not forget -- -not even for a moment -- -that we must be careful! The holy care for our safety does not allow us to show either pity or mercy. At last we have been allowed to behold the bitter need of the Russian people, and to see it in tears! By taking from them their property, their gold, we have reduced this people to helpless slaves.
Be cautious and silent! We ought to have no mercy for our enemy. We must make an end of the best and leading elements of the Russian people, so that vanquished Russia may not find any leader! Thereby every possibility will vanish for them to resist our power. We must excite hatred and disputes between workers and peasants. War and class-struggle will destroy all treasures and culture created by the Christian people. But be cautious, Sons of Israel! Our victory is near, because our political and economic power and influence upon the masses are in rapid progress. We buy up Government loans and gold, and thereby we have controlling power over the world’s exchanges. The power is in our hands, but be careful -- place no faith in traitorous shady powers!
Bronstein (Trotsky), Apfelbaum (Zinovieff), Rosenfeld (Kamaneff), Steinberg -- all of them are like unto thousands of other true sons of Israel. Our power in Russia is unlimited. In the towns, the Commissariats and Commissions of Food, House commissions, etc., are dominated by our people. But do not let victory intoxicate you. Be careful, cautious, because no one except yourselves will protect us!
Signed, The Central Committee of the Petersburg Branch of the Israelite International League.
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It will be noted that the above was found in Hebrew , as the original of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and all the secret documents of the Jews are. There are plenty of manifestoes in Christian languages that are intended for the goyim to read. Of these we need take no account. "Israelite International League" can be none other than l’Alliance Israelite Universelle founded by Cremieux and headed by Rothschild.
All the Protocols tell the same tale of malice, revenge, cupidity and murderous hate against Christian and Christianity. Judaism as practiced by the Zionist Khazars who call themselves Jews is Satanism; and no amount of ritual and kabalistic camouflage can hide this fact.
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I find it amazing that even some anti-zionists do not find merit in these Protocols.
I don't think they READ them. Certainly not thoroughly. These Protocols is the jew or non-jew zionist entity's, [supremacists- imperialists-neocons ...whatever you want to call them] god, their Religion, their altar.
The materialistic earth is their reality and their possession, in TOTAL.
I can't believe there even has to be a question or a doubt that these protocols are working heavily and successfully among us - especially among anti-zionists.
I am afraid that - if the Americans are coming around - they are coming around too slowly.
I hope that I am wrong - maybe I am wrong.
5. The other great power is THE PRESS. By repeating without cessation certain ideas, the Press succeeds in the end in having them accepted as actualities. The Theatre renders us analogous services. Everywhere the Press and the Theatre obey our orders.
Truly a House of Mirrors, as well:
There is a scene in Seinfeld. Jerry and George are riding in a Limo, and the other two people in the limo [who look up to a character named Ryan] think George is Ryan or O'Ryan.
It turns out this Ryan is a leader and writer against jewish supremacists. George is forced to read a bit of "his own literature" out loud.
What he reads is how jews started Black Slavery and pitted Blacks against Whites, Whites against Blacks. The jews gain their fortunes by creating these hostilities.
So of course, this is "Funny". The audience laughs. The followers of Ryan and the unseen Ryan are made to be weirdos and of course "anti-semites".
This is just a few scenes of seinfeld where the show actually does make fun of the TRUTH, thereby rendering it "false".
Another game of the Protocols.
Indeed, their 'massive theatre" does have us laugh at the truth against them, and so the truth becomes silly, benign, and false.
Please do not read if Religion gives meaning to your existence.
The protocols are fake. Lets us for one moment consider the possibility that Christianity is a false religion. Moreover, the Christianity was created by Paul of Tarsus as a way of infiltrating the Rome (Empire) army and breaking their discipline. Additionally, The Pharasies and the Sadducee's were two different groups. Jesus of Nazareth was a noble Jewish patriot fighting against the subversion of his way of life. The Pharasies were agents of King Cyrus of Persia. Eventually Christianity became a tool of conquest. My poor people have been victims of this mind virus for six centuries. Please do not read if Religion gives meaning to your existence.
Here are my sources:
Paul of Tarsus,
or Christianity and Jewry1
http://www.savitridevi.org/paul_trans_english_fowler.html
A REAL CASE AGAINST THE JEWS
http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=religion_judaism_ant...
http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=ethnic_judaism&Numbe...
Why do you still watch Zionist Media? Honestly? And in particular, why would anybody watch Zeinfeld?
Latin, My 'answer' (also likely to offend and irritate more than a few good folks) is that, 1.) the Protocols are a REAL and authentic document, derived from minutes taken or text spoken at a Rothschild-led Sanhedrin; 2.) it hinders not that Christianity is, like all and any other organized religion, FAKE, and that Jesus is and was himself a mythological figure ; and 3.) my understanding of the pharaisees (gleaned from Reed's Controversy, and others) is that they were the jewish leadership or Sanhedrin (wherever based or located at that time) who prevailed over their more moderate counterparts, the Sadduces...politics as usual, I guess I'd say...
Would like to qualify my assertions by stating that my understanding and /or opinions in any oneof the articles is by no means pat or fully-informed, &c.
The Protocols are VERY real. The fact that they are known to be fakes nowadays doesn't mean that they're fake. Logically, it makes sense to proclaim them to be fake, since somehow they were revealed to the public, and whoever follows these Protocols obviously would not want their plan to be known to everyone. So the best thing is to rule them out as authentic, which is exactly what the judge in Switzerland did. All you have to do is look at where the world is today, and it seems like the situation now clearly applies to all the Protocols, so it only shows that they are not fake.
I saw an interesting documentary by a Russian researcher who has been writing about the Freemasonic and Zionist influences on Russia since the past century, and in that document he clearly explains the history of the Swiss ruling on the Protocols and how they could not prove that the Protocols were fake at the end, and there were numerous investigations done on it in order to come to the conclusion that they are not fake, but do we know about that part? Of course, not! If anyone here might have some knowledge of Russian, I can post the interview in here so that you guys will get the true story surrounding the Swiss ruling, and how later the Jews in Switzerland had to interfere and make sure that the Protocols were proclaimed as fake documents.
If Jesus were a fake, I doubt there would be such Zioscum hatred directed at him and Christianity.
If I'm not mistaken, you can go back in the Talmud many, many years to find filthy lies about Jesus, his mother, etc.
Why such vitriol if he's a myth?
If I'm not mistaken (and I may be), the only contemporaneous mentions of 'Jesus' were written by Josephus (whose accounts, altho' I have not read through, I don't actually give much credence to), and Seutonius, who wrote a single line about him ('an upstart causing problems in Palestine, or something like &c.), in his Lives ofthe Caesars... personally, I believe he was a composite of sorts, and largely mythological..
The ideas contained within the protocols are real. The author of Jewish inspired ideas or plans is in question. This to me seems like a propaganda campaign deigned and created by the Holy Alliance. Additionally, I also believe that the only translated version of the oft quoted Talmud is a Russian Translation commissioned by the Tsar. Common guys think critically. There are so many lies that you have to be skeptical of everyone.
This laughable! This not an argument! Lets test my observation.
Support for my claims:
A Lawsuit Threat Is Gone and Christmas Trees Return By WILLIAM YARDLEY Published: December 13, 2006 SEATTLE, Dec. 12 — Fourteen Christmas trees that were abruptly sent to storage on Friday were back on display Tuesday in the main terminal of Seattle-Tacoma International Airport, neither taller nor brighter than they had been before but clearly drawing more attention.
source:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/13/us/13trees.html
LAV....I see seinfeld for a lot of what it really is. I see things in that show that zombies don't see. I have had a clear picture of things about zionist shows since the mid-80s, more or less, and even more so today.
I see things my own Muslim fellows and family members that don't see and I am mystified at their stupidity and blindness.
All the reason to watch the stuff so I can bring forth a case of the Protocols at work as I just did on Nobo's post. :-)
FESTER...indeed! Jesus must be something for them to despise Him so much!
Fester may have a point but the argument is flawed. Logical structure is important! If one is not careful then one starts believing in absurdities. Santa or Satan is a great example. Nothing good can come from television. Your argument is like telling me that you go to the local pub and drink beer so you can then save the alcoholics. Quite frankly I am shocked that a pious Muslim woman such as yourself would be caught dead watching Zionist propaganda which is directly contributing to the destruction of Islam or at the very least waring against your beliefs. Turn the TV off!!!!!!!!
But a lot of stuff you bring forth LAV does not make sense to me.
You are no different than the religion pushers, screamers and cryers in any religious institution who demand you must believe in order to be saved.
You really are no different, only you say the opposite. Think critically for yourself - and stop judging others - even if they want to believe in popsicles - why should it concern you? If there is no harm, no foul, what is the problem?
And what the hell are you on about when you paste this???
Jesus of Nazareth was a noble Jewish patriot fighting against the subversion of his way of life.
Really, LAV? Do you know how many TV shows say just about the same thing? Jesus is a jew! Hell, yeah! They wouldn't dare say otherwise! You believe Jesus was a jew?
ALSO....
I seem to recall fahim talking about the falsness of the word "Christ" as in Jesus Christ. In the very next sentence he has the nerve to say that the jews founded the name Jerusalem. When in fact, aside from so many other "ites" that existed at that time, it would be appropriate to say they were ancient Israelites, NOT jews.
I say, make up your mind! If you want to question the validity in the name of "Christ", then I suggest you do the same for the word "Jew"! If religion is such a problem, look at yourself and realize that maybe YOU are the problem. Live and let live. If there is no harm nor foul in what people choose to believe then let it be.
LAV, you do it again.
I agree that the TV can be a problem. But it certainly has not helped you in your so-called Logical Structure ...whatever the hell that is.
The mind is not THAT weak, not THAT incapable of discerning what it considers real. Just because someone tells me that a plateful of cooked spiders are healthier than a plateful of donuts DOES NOT mean I am going to go hunting for spiders.
I may be watching zionist propaganda, but that doesn't mean I don't see it for what it is.
Perhaps, LAV, you are terribly frightened by the TV that you may be sucked in forever never to be found??? Heh heh...
The very idea that you would demand I turn off the TV says a lot about YOU, LAV. Not all TV watchers are taken in by the propaganda and NOT ALL people who don't watch TV are free from their proganda-ized thinking.
You cannot equate TV watching with alcoholism and I am not watching TV to save the people! I made a point about propaganda I noted on a show. What are YOU doing to save the world ...huh, Lav???
How non-sensical your logical structure is becoming!
And you seem to be telling everyone that the protocols do not match up to what is happening today, or to what has been happening in the world???
And you tell me you never understood my way of blogging. That's really funny....in a grotesque kind of way.
But I tell you, you are self-deceivers. You lack either the self-knowledge or the mettle to face the facts squarely and own up to the truth. You resent the Jew not because, as some of you seem to think, we crucified Jesus but because we gave him birth. Your real quarrel with us is not that we have rejected Christianity but that we have imposed it upon you!
-Marcus Eli Ravage
Are you saying that you believe this snippet of ridiculous arrogance, LAV? Is that what you are saying? Or are you saying that your poor people believe this and this is their undoing?
I really don't see where you are headed when you put up your sources. Do you agree with it or are you against what it says?
That you have the right to believe in anything. Pretend that I believe in little green men. This is fine but I don't have the right to ask the government to create a little green men commission.
If I were to ask for such a thing then you as a tax payer have the right to ask for proof. However, in the world there exists many communities that have their idiosyncratic beliefs and they have a right to live that way. Mormons with their many wives. Muslims with their modesty laws. However, there are no laws requiring critical thinking. Imagine asking people to support their beliefs with well thought out arguments. We would have blood on the streets. The masses would scream " We have the right to be irrationale!" This maybe true but here at WYFUS we are making claims against Jews! Therefore the burden of proof is on side.
Anti-Jewishism requires no proof only vitriol.
Lastly, Imagine that we held these standards to those that accuse Muslims of the 911 attacks? War and countless lives would have been spared.
Just being exposed to this material can have a degrading affect. Here are just a few concepts for R- Observational Learning,desensitization,flickering light hypothesis and the list goes on. However, I suspect that you are immune to these scientifically calculated poisons. Yes, you are different. Additionally one become one of the empty heads counted for advertising revenue. Yeah! you are a real fighter!
I am a co founder on a non profit that provides food for people living in abject poverty for free! I also made over 30 hours of podcasts. I quite when various intelligence agencies scared the shit out of me.
So go ahead and believe they are fake. That's you, lav.
Now you are living in a fantasy world, lav, when you say:
Imagine that we held these standards to those that accuse Muslims of the 911 attacks? War and countless lives would have been spared.
WOW...that is some Wizard of Oz! Some Over the Rainbow! Some Emerald City!
Thank you, lav.
I guess the Protocols were in session [before during and after 9/11] instead of your logical-structured thinking.
sniff sniff
That was an interesting argument LAV.
You used as your counter example something that most folk (excepting kids & a few morons) would find as obvious to the point of stupidity. So there would be no argument possible.
After all we all know exactly who Santa Claus is ! Its me! lol.
So if jews denied my existence then they'd get little credibility with me and maybe others as well. So they would probably think twice about that one, no?
On the other hand, saying someone didn't exist 2000 years ago today is pretty easy, given that the jews at the time were not too keen on him living his life out to the full, let alone becoming the (murdered) leader of a faith. There's just no knowing what they might say/do today with all their power.
What we do know is that jews systematically lie. And they create false images of past and present "reality".
Of old, for instance, there are many lies in the Torah (much of the old testament bible). The story of Exodus, they didn't really part the red sea (proven by those put ashore on the Godwin sands) and the 10 commandments were actually off the Rosetta Stone. The story of the Pharaohs cow dreams interpreted by Joseph were written about 100bc around the time of the cult of the cow. Which means the jews were constantly revising their bible, the Torah. Thats just for starters.
Of modern, for instance, take the 2002 Hollywood film "TimeMachine" supposedly based on HGWell's book of the same name. Well its arch-empire of evil is run by superbrain being with psy-powers. But of course, in HGWell's book the Morlocks are a race of humans who live hidden UNDERGROUND and whose existence is not know to the above ground dweller simpletons, the Eloi (as in the 1960 version).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Time_Machine
HGWells was writing about jews/masons - the morlocks and the masses - us - mushrooms in the dark. Don't forget HGWells was on of Cecil Rhodes (a jew convert of De Beers Diamonds fame) fellow club members - the club to rule the world in the new world order - Wells wrote TimeMachine as a warning to them.
Then there's the holohoax.... need I say more?
DO NOT LOOK AT THIS - IF YOU ARE AN ATHEIST.
See how Jesus was GOD.
http://www.armageddonchurch.com/?Translation_of_Megiddo_mosaics
http://www.armageddonchurch.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megiddo_(place)
Have you seen this in the mainstream media? On your TV?
This is proof that jews STOP you from knowing about Christ!
The protocols are therefore self-evidently real and not fake! As the jews deny Christ and anyone who would deny a righteous man, must self-evidently be the liar.
KC
"The Talmud and talmudic literature...contain very offensive statements and precepts directed specificallly against Christianity. For example, in addition to a series of scurrilous sexual allegations against Jesus, the Talmud states that his punishment in hell is to be immersed in boiling excrement" from Israel Shahak's Jewish History, Jewish Religion p. 20-21
If he's a composite or chimera or a cartoon character, it seems nose on your face obvious that there would NOT be a need to get so worked up about him. The Big Dirt would be full of commentary on his fictious nature rather than foot-stamping, pants-shitting rage.
I merely used Fester's argument and substituted Santa for Jesus. The argument structure is wrong.
Nobo- this is why your children are destined to be goy slaves.
Any and all story/ies that would cause confusion in their enemies would do, remember the fall of the tower of Babylon?? Thats cointel for you!
Interestingly, jews seem to use Hollywood films to identify and attack their enemies with. So we should be looking at any of their recent fiction anti-hero's to see if they are really our allies and possibly our best hope of salvation/leadership.
Take the changed story about HGWells Time Machine in 2002 for instance.
Is the Morlock leader - a superbrain with psy capabilites - our real best hope? The arch-enemy of the jew?
Forget the heartless, fatalist, cannibal veneer they put on him. That just so we despise him.
A trashy lie, a deception, for us to swallow hole, so we hate what is our best & perhaps only hope of getting through the deluge of lies they tell us.
Someone who truely is a living GOD on planet earth.
KC
LAV, what the fuck are you on about? Is this debate club? Did teacher leave you in charge? You're spewing chunks left, right, and center. Calm down. I'll take the point and you can stuff the structure, ok?
LAV: "Fester may have a point but the argument is flawed. Logical structure is important! If one is not careful then one starts believing in absurdities. Santa or Satan is a great example. Nothing good can come from television. Your argument is like telling me that you go to the local pub and drink beer so you can then save the alcoholics. Quite frankly I am shocked that a pious Muslim woman such as yourself would be caught dead watching Zionist propaganda which is directly contributing to the destruction of Islam or at the very least waring against your beliefs. Turn the TV off!!!!!!!!"
Lav, I'm pleased to say that I don't have any children, or any family to speak of otherwise. But are you sure you aren't applying someone else's comments to me? All I argue is that the Protocols are real, derived from a Rothschild-led Sanhedrin, &c.; and that ALL organized religions are are bald-faced frauds just on the face (and to the marrow) of 'em, &c., &c., &c.
.. deception ..
but TRUTH is thorough and requires no clever device to illustrate it.
You used a simple device ... thought to be clever, but not so clever really, when exposed to decomposition, more of a trap for the unwary.
Now a steaming rotting mass destined to make good fertilizer.
KC
Look where Galilee and Nazareth are. Learn the difference between the ancient Israelites and the judeans and their schism over the "oral traditions" from the captivity in Babylon.
Torah vs talmudic.
This is simple logic. Come on guys! Nobo, I think that the protocols where counter propaganda devised by the Holy Alliance. Incidentally, check out the counter alliance on the time- Great Britain, The Vatican, and the Ottoman Empire.
Please understand, I don't dispute a Jewish plot to control the world. I merely suggests that the protocols are not real. Nobo sadly the smart ones choose not to have children. The Slavery ends with me!
Claymoremind that is insulting. Why do you try learning that the Pharisee were agents of King Cyrus of Persia! Pharisee are from Fars. Paul was a Pharisee! Shit he declares this boldly in the Bible. Try reading it sometime! Acts 23:6
http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=156
* “Yashu (Jesus) was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness and refused to repent.” (Sotah 47a)
So the jews reckon he was a jew. But then he spoke Greek, like most jews did, and he lived outside of Judea, again like most jews did. Maybe he was right handed like gentiles were and most jews weren't.
So.. its been 2000 years.
LAV... Logic
There are many types of logic,
there is the "Solomon" logic - cut the baby in two and that will find the mother.
there is the mathematical logic
* + - / ~ OR AND NOT < > = etc
there is soritic logic... e.g.
Sun=Gold=Yellow=Coward=Saffron=Golden=Sand=Hay=Straw=Corn=Dorado
Moon=Silver=Sand=Sterling
Solomon=Wise=Wisdom=Salt=Bright=Smart=Brain
But I don't know any logic that reckons Santa Claus (me) does not exist.
Here's something to puzzle...
To create something from nothing the creator, that great architect, only has to make...
0 = (+1) + (-1)
(Here the + is a separator or divider)
Now that equation reminds (I'm using "reminds" predicate logic) me of Judaism.
Do you know why?
[Here's a CLUE - False Flag - Black v's White, Christian v's Muslim, Men v's Women, Communism v's Fascism (was originally capitalism) - dozens of Bible Stories stolen/lied about = e.g. 12 tribes of Israel bs (was 12 standing megalithic stones) - 9/11, Christ was not a jew, Christ did not exist, the Protocols of Zion are fake, 6 million jews died in Auschwitz ...... need I go on]
Divide - divide - divide... until we all sit alone too isolated to defend ourselves.
KC
What about Acts 26???
YOU are insulting US, Lav with your incomplete mumbo jumbo.
In Acts 26, Paul goes against his former beliefs as a Pharisee. And his people seek to KILL him for doing so. For embracing the Word of God and traveling in the world to spread the works of Jesus, speaking of the Kingdom of God, the pharisees want him dead. He almost had King Agrippa converted.
And I believe Paul was beheaded the same day as Peter was crucified [Paul's last travels]. His conversion is clearly stated in Acts 26.
He went against the hypocrisy of the Pharisees. Now some Pharisees did convert as well. Not all of them were hypocrites. Just the ones in power.
Your comment is most deceiving, lav, and shame on you. AS IF Paul was an an evil agent and nothing else....as you would have us believe.
More of this structured logic? Or just choosing what you want us to believe?
According to the late, great Jack Otto, Rothschild commisioned his fellow tribesman and catholicv church / jesuit infiltrator, &c., Adam Weishaupt to write the Protocols. I don't know his specific source, but it sounds eminently feasible to me...
(I'm not 'on the road' yet -- will be in about a week.)
Latin, If you find the time or desire, you should listen to Otto's broadcast of 02/24/07, hr. 2, 23 minutes in... http://216.240.133.177/Otto/07/
I added 'A 15th Century "Protocol"' from / by 'the king of the jews' at the top of the blog... also undeniable, &c.
Make that PRINCE of the Jews...
Nobodaddy,
You mentioned "late Jack Otto", which implies that he passed away. Do you have any info as to what happened to him? I found his speech on youtube in regards to the book he wrote called 'The Forbidden Knowledge' so I'm very interested to know what happened to him. I tried looking him up on wikipedia, but there's nothing about him there. Thanks.
By logic I am referring to Aristotelian Logic. Basically if the argument form is valid then the conclusion could be true. This also depends on the truth value of the premises. However, if the argument form is invalid then the conclusion could be true or false regardless of the truth value of the premises. However since we have reached the tipping point of utter stupidity. These important rules governing the rules of inquiry are subject to the whim of the ignorant. The most offensive part is the insistence on utterly moronic people to believe absurdities. It is quite reminiscent if the lesser animals on animal farm belief in "sugar candy mountain land".
Fem,
He died a few hours after doing (his final) RBN show on 4th of Aug., '07, of heart attack or failure -- a bad heart condition which he'd been plagued with for many years previous to his passing (according to his self-professed protegé, John Stadtmiller (supposedly, and / or amazingly enough -- inasmuch as Stadtmiller [from what I've listened to of him], seldom addresses the issue of 'zionism', &c.. head-on] who explains it all in the show of 11th Aug. (All of Otto's RBN shows can be had here: http://216.240.133.177/Otto/07/ (Feb.-Aug). I wish he'd done a million more, &c.
Latin,
Still pondering the question of their complete authenticity myself -- still, I do not think that they are make-believe in any way -- in spite of their too, too obvious use of words like "goyim" and "we, the jews", &c.
Considering what the elite think of the masses one can safely bet that they maybe true but not completely. Moreover, it most likely that they were written as counter propaganda by the Tsar and the Holy Alliance. Anyway I would be interested in discussing this in private- if you are interested?
LAV - If Santa were a fake, I doubt there would be such Zioscum hatred directed at him and Christmas; therefore Santa is real!
Doesn't make sense. Your lack of TV watching has not helped you. The zionists do not hate santa. They thrive on santa. Santa is one of their big money-making industries. Zionists don't hate Christmas. They hate the spiritual meaning of Christmas [obviously, they won't admit it]. But they turned Chri$tma$/$anta into one of the biggest shopping sprees in the world.
This laughable! This not an argument! Lets test my observation.
I posted them together as a way to illustrate a point. How can you attack my argument and leave festers festering falsehood unassailable? Some intellectual honest would be nice.
From one of your links above, lav.
A clumsy Russian forges a set of papers and publishes them in a book called “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion”, which shows that we plotted to bring on the late World War. You believe that book. All right. For the sake of argument we will underwrite every word of it. It is genuine and authentic. But what is that beside the unquestionable historical conspiracy which we have carried out, which we have never denied because you never had the courage to charge us with it, and of which the full record is extant for anybody to read?
If you really are serious when you talk of Jewish plots, may I not direct your attention to one worth talking about? What use is it wasting words on the alleged control of your public opinion by Jewish financiers, newspaper owners and movie magnates, when you might as well justly accuse us of the proved control of your whole civilization by the Jewish Gospels?
- Marcus Eli Ravage
Clumsy? When one reads the protocls the last thing one would think of is that the author is clumsy! And by all means a clumsy christian Russian at that, eh?
But of course!
Let's make FUN of the TRUTH! That's what they do best. See Jerry Seinfeld in my comment above - how they make light and fun of the TRUTH. Yes the audience does laugh. I didn't. OH...but you tried to distract people because of my TV watching, eh, LAV?
You prefer to miss my whole point!
Now let us look at the word "ALLEGED" used by this Ravage person [a proud supporter/sustainer/product of the protocls like the rest of his ilk].
Ravage - What use is it wasting words on the alleged control of your public opinion by Jewish financiers, newspaper owners and movie magnates,
Already he cannot wait to steer us from a powerful, well-rooted TRUTH. He causes us to veer away from it. His last paragraph is just a throw-away of garbage. The jewish gospels? What the hell are those? Extremely confusing.
Are you telling me that you agree and trust in the words of this most arrogant Marcus Eli Ravage person?
THINK!!!
Did I just say Clause instead o Claus????
HMMMM.... now that is worth looking into!
Speaking of a play on words....an anagram comes to mind. Move the "t" and the "n" and you get Satan, instead of Santa.
spooky!!!
Adding, removing or replacing a vowel in a surname is a habit commonplace amongst members of 'the tribe' :)
Rhiannon!
I have no idea where I've read this but underwear wearin Superman character was created to divert peoples attention from Christ.
Probably that's why we got plethora of superheros running around wearing underwears inside out! Just look at the box office this year - Ironman, Batman etc, etc!
Whatta great anagram to remember, no wonder you're my fav! :)
LAV, you jackass. Go back and READ what I said. It was not offered as a logical proof, it was a simple, common sense observation. You have yet to respond with anything of value and instead innundate us with rubbish. What's that horseshit line of yours, "abandon logic and we're all lost!." Keep fluffing, dude, you'll be a big radio star someday.
Additionally, I quit the radio show for many reasons. And I would never even remotely consider doing something like that agian. Dogma! Be careful dogma has a way of limiting peoples imaginations.
Again, you offer common sense for idiots and ammunition to people that would like to discredit the Zionist resistance movement with your brilliant reasoning. Fester your are a good cheerleader but no leader.