Egypt will not sever ties with israel
I wasn't exactly looking forward to war, but this is ridiculous.
Egypt will not sever political OR diplomatic ties with Israel despite a documentary showing Israelis executing unarmed Egyptian soldiers in 1967.In an interview with Tunisia's al-Sabah newspaper published Friday, Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmad Abul Ghait said severing ties "is not ideal; Egypt's ability on (maintaining) contacts and absorbing issues has proven its success and therefore, we will not sever our relations with Israel because of a documentary aired on television."
What an outrageous quote.
Although, the documentary pours salt on the wound - obviously, it's not the documentary that's causing outrage - it's the war crime.
Israeli television last week broadcast a documentary on the Israeli forces' killing of 250 Egyptian war prisoners at the end of the 1967 Middle East war, triggering widespread anger across Egypt and calls to cut off ties with the Jewish state. Egypt became the first Arab country, before Jordan, to sign a peace treaty with Israel in 1979.
Abul Ghait told the paper he informed his Israeli counterpart Tzipi Livni earlier this week, during a meeting in Brussels, of the Egyptian public outrage and demanded an official investigation into the issue.
The Israeli film showed the Israeli military unit which reportedly killed the war prisoners was led by current Infrastructure Minister Binyamin Ben-Eliezer, who cancelled a scheduled visit Cairo last week after the documentary prompted a public Egyptian outcry.
Abul Ghait said Ben-Eliezer's visit was not postponed, but cancelled "because we cannot imagine ourselves receiving a person surrounded by such suspicions, especially that the accusations came from the Israeli side."
This is a joke.
Egyptian authorities are sitting on a ticking time bomb.
Egyptians won't put up with this shit for much longer. Much like Americans won't put up with the shit that we're getting.
... the Israeli war crimes against Egyptian POWs has been common knowledge for YEARS. It's just that the Israeli press is freer than most when it comes to talking about Israel.
As for Egypt under Mubarak. Where do I start? The Egyptian dictatorship of Mubarak (unless you want to believe he is democratically elected every time with 98% of the votes) is a puppet regime in the service of the US (directly), and thus in the service of Israel (indirectly). Israel has acted arrogantly towards Egypt many times in the past years and Egypt always bent over backwards and took the insults. (On several occasions the Zionists murdered Egyptian troops on the border, an act of war, and Egypt goes into overdrive to pacify its population and keep the status quo.)
Heck, when the Zionists in US government talk about regime change in the Middle East, they openly talk about installing 'Mubaraks' in Iraq, a 'Mubarak' in Syria, etc.
Egypt has kept political and diplomatic ties through YEARS of Israeli crimes against Palestinians (and the occasional Egyptian), against the desires of the Egyptian population. Why would they take any action now because of a documentary?
Mubarak is a puppet. His secret police and torturers are what's keeping him in power, not the Egyptian population's love for him or tolerance of Israeli crimes.
after giving it some more thought, I realized that if Egypt were to do something as mild as severing economic ties with israel - ISRAEL would find a pretext to wage war against EGYPT.
israel wants Egyptian resources and does NOT want Egyptian COMPETITION - and they are prepared to do ANYTHING to get what they want.
So, in effect - Egyptians are being held hostage by nuclear-armed israelis, much like every other Arab state in the region, with the exception of Iran, which is finally calling their bluff.
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The war crimes have been common knowledge in Egypt for many years. Time magazine reported on it in the 90's and the mass graves had been previously excavated. (Still waiting on the Auschwitz excavation). Regardless the Egyptian regime has an iron fist on the people. Dissidents just disappear, and the people fear the regime. The aid money gets collected by the elite and the status quo continues. However unlike the good old USA, at least the Egyptian people know the score, even if they are powerless to do anything.
It makes me nauseous how Americans think they know what’s up, but have absolutely no clue. We are the most hoodwinked population in the world bar none.
Mubarak was trained as a MIG pilot in Bolshevik USSR (he's about 70 yo, right?). Moreover, he's of turanic descent: Mu-Barak, Barak is a turkik surname (like in Ehud Barak). Mubarak is probably a Mamluk Egyptian.
you never cease to amaze me!
You're an endless fountain of information!
But, please, elaborate on the significance of being a Mamluk Egyptian...
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I don't know, "Mubarak" is Arabic and means "Blessed" (Of all the meanings in the world..). I'm interested about what you're saying though, care to elaborate?
Thanks
Oh, ... there's little hidden history about the Mamluks. Even zionist-controlled wikipedia will teach you that the Mamluks
were mercenaries of turkik origins (in fact, most of them Kipchaks, aka Cumans and therefore once part of the confederation of turkik tribes ruled by the Khazars in their heydays) who took control of Egypt and installed themselves in the country's aristocracy layers. So, Mu-barak certainly isn't a pharaonite Egyptian, nor a Copt (the earliest egyptian Christians, whence the name E-copt => Egypt for a country that calls herself 'Misr' ...).
OK, anticipating the next comment before I read it and as I write this: Mubarak went to be trained as a pilot in the USSR after WW2, when the Bolsheviks had somewhat waned, but it makes little difference ...
The US-UK-IL axis of evil always chose their puppet leaders in key ME countries (where there has been a regime change) so they belong to the right tribal-loyalty groups. Mubarak (Mu-Barak, Barak is definitely turkik) sounds turkik to me, and now Sphinx tells us the name means 'Chosen' in Arabic. Mubarak also one of the 'Chosen Ones'? Next, Karzai (Karz-ai) is definitely a central-asian turanic name. As for Chalabi, he was a Sephardi Jew we said ...
Sorry history_worm, it's "Blessed" not "chosen".
"Chosen" would be mukhtar/mokhtar
Mubarak - Passive adjective form of "baraka", which means blessing, as in God's blessings.
between the two...but, more importantly, clearly, he acts as if he's chosen.
The cultural and historical narrative is certainly interesting, indeed intriguing. But, the bottomline is that all these people - wherever they come from and whatever their names - share the same qualities, in varying degrees:
Arrogance
Selfishness
The question is - how do we free ourselves from their tyranny?
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Usually tyranny brings on its own destruction. It's only a matter of time before the downfall arrives. Remember that throughout history, tyranny has always failed in the end.
The question is now, how long we should wait.
There is an intermediary step - an intervening proximate cause for its downfall - namely, RESISTANCE.
If we 'wait,' we'll wait forever.
God helps those who help themselves.
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history_worm - any connection???
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The resistance is ALWAYS there. And in this certain case it's also there. However, it's always a matter of time before the resistance rises up and topples the tyranny. For now, it's still too weak to do so. But someday, it'll happen.
I don't think there's a link between the words Turan (a region now in Turkmenistan, called Turan by the Turks themselves, and the place where historically turkik foes of the Persians originated) and Tyrant (the name of a greek despot, if I recollect well).
Every culture has had its tyrants and tyrannies, in my view. But the tyranny of the Zionists has a long history, that's my point, since it can be traced back all the way to the Huns, the Mongols, the Ottomans. So, it's now some 1600 years we Indo-Europeans (Christians, if you like it) have been experiencing this onslaught and recognising it as such is the basic prerequisite to rid ourselves from this yoke.
As to qrs' fundamental and most important question, "just how do we rid ourselves from this tyranny?", well I keep saying there are very good directions given by John Beaty in his most remarkable book 'The Iron Courtain over America' (1951). John Kaminski also wrote a very good piece about this chief quest, do you know all this qrs?
A side question: can anyone explain to me why Jeff Rense is still featuring Henry Makow on his program/website, but ousted John Kaminski? Yet the first is a decoy planted by the conspirators, whilst Kaminski is a true independent, and very deep, thinker.
So for Mubarak I must stand corrected, Mubarak - Passive adjective form of "baraka", which means blessing, as in God's blessings. (The Sphinx) Could this be just another example of chameleonism? Camouflage? Then 'barak' as in Ehud Barak must mean 'blessed' too, in Hebrew? It's a connery, I know for sure that Barak is a historical turkik surname. It's typical of Turanians to modify and present their name so as to appear ethnical within the local populace.