http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frameup/
Thanks to nobodaddy!
I learn something new everyday it seems. No one person has all the answers, and on one person can do it all --- WUFYS is a good community. Here's another:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frameup/




...thanks (and I lost count at around 1/4 of the way through at 20,000:)... love and peace, &c....