Why the Stab in the Back?
It appears that Jeff Rense is getting the old CryptoJew heave-ho here on 'Slumber'. Why? Because he has a diverse web site. Or, more to the SPECIFIC point, (gasp) he posts articles about UFOs;
"Jeff Rense
I think Rense's website serves the best interests of Jewish Supremacism. I know people who looked at the the site, saw the part about UFO's, and then decided that all the rest is nonsense too.
Rense's site damages the credibility of those who reveal the truth, it helps to hide what's really been happening. It causes people to associate those of us who are aware of the Zionists' political power with the fools who believe in UFO's.
Such websites are an important part of the Jewish Supremacists' game.
Two MUCH better websites are wakeupfromyourslumber.com here, and crescentandcross.com.
justice seeker | Sat, 2007-03-10 20:09"
Justice Seeker says he/she know's people who "saw the part about UFO's, and then decided that all the rest is nonsense too." You know, that's almost a direct quote from Darryl Bradford "IAmTheWitness" Smith's site some while ago when he started branding anyone who wouldn't let him be the only 'self professed expert' on 9/11 and Zionism as cryptoJews. That’s, also, so much unmitigated bullsh*t.
I would say that Justice Seeker, perhaps, needs to walk in better circles.
"... It (rense.com) causes people to associate those of us who are aware of the Zionists' political power with the fools who believe in UFO's."
Ya' know, I've taken to staying pretty much away from any posting here although I always read the content of the site. You folks have pretty much formed a 'clic' along the lines of the old 'Capitol Hill Blue' "groupee" clic. I reckymember the wallopin' you meted out to poor old 'Jebus'. The boy had guts though. He stuck with you. Haven't seen him for awhile. I'm sure that you will say the reason is because he was a Zionist shill and he couldn't stand the heat. Could well be, but, I found him interesting and he brought up some very good points which, I felt, could have been researched and responded to a little better by such a fine, intelligent group.
Some sarcasm is inherent in the last three words of the foregoing paragraph but, not actually, a lot. I have been surprised at the pack mentality and attacks on anyone questioning anything any of you say. You even shy away from disagreeing with one another to the point that some of you, who may not have the best interests of the site in mind, have taken a dominance you don’t deserve. Reminds me of my grandchildren when they want to be friends with someone so bad that they will take any abuse dished out just to be their friend. I always tell them that friends who will treat them like that are not really FRIENDS at all.
Is that it? Are you folks so desperate to be accepted that you will take the abuse?
What has Rense done to deserve the backstab? Is there some proof or real evidence that he is working for the Zionists? Is there really any reason to believe that Alex Jones is really any better ALTHOUGH “…he avoids mentioning the most important factor of all, which is of course Jewish Supremacism. I'm sure that, like any other intelligent person, he is aware of it. But being aware of their power, he stays within certain boundaries.” Justice Seeker
Why does Jones get the benefit of the doubt while Rense gets the shiv Justice Seeker? I have seen UFO posts on PrisonPlanet before. Is Jones more acceptable because he openly proselytizes? He promises God’s plan rather than UFOs? (Got news, guys, God’s plan is a new world order you can’t survive). Does not Rense deserve the benefit of the same doubt? I read both Rense and Jones after I read Rivero. I actually would rather listen to Rense than the loudmouth Jones but I learn from them all. What is Rense’s crime here?
Why would anyone shiv Rense, Jones or Rivero for the likes of the French Connection? Lotus seems to go straight for the jugular (actually, more appropriately, for bleedout purposes, it should be the carotid artery) vein here;
"If they're not exposing the problem....
If Rense and Jones are not exposing the evildoers, then they're part of the problem. I wasted too much time on their sites and so do many, many others. They are sponge sites designed to soak up the pressure and tire people out.
The Zionist criminals have unleashed slaughter everywhere while shifting the blame onto others. Pidcock and Smith believe it's in the 100's of millions. And STILL THEY WHINE!!!
www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmithInterviewsPidcock2.html
www.iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmithInterviews_Chris.html
Lotus | Sat, 2007-03-10 23:18"
Who’s whining and who made Smith the expert?
I understand where a lot of people who see the atrocities of the Jews could be drawn in by Smith and Hufschmid but a little more research about these two might temper your rush to crown them as Messiahs and crucify the folks who have always been there.
To promote a site because you feel it meets your requirements is fine. The sidebar of my site is laden with my favorite links to include some which are Christian and one who is an Atheist turned back to Christian (Vault-Co). But to start accusing sites that have given a lot of us knowledge of being Zionist shills and CryptoJews because they may not be vehement enough against Zionists or (shudder, gnashing of teeth) they post UFO incidents then I feel you need some real proof and a study of the antics of the paranoid D. Bradford ‘IAmTheWitness’ Smith precludes much of anything he has to say as proof of much of anything concerning Rense, Jones or Rivero.
Don’t let ‘Slumber’ become a site of censorship.
Believe it or not I have never met a ‘fool’ who believed in UFOs. I have however, met a few crazy people among many more very intelligent people who do but, then, I couldn’t really ask the crazy ones about it because they were in conversation with God and couldn’t be disturbed.
for the record, Rense has linked to more than one of my posts, yet I have no affiliation to the site whatsoever. The same goes for Alex Jones who has linked to WUFYS numerous times.
No one pays either of them to link to posts from this site - no one urges them to link to posts at this site.
Therefore, I can only conclude that when they link to a post at WUFYS, that they do it to expose their readers to information that they find valuable.
I don't believe in UFOs. But, I do not disbelieve in them either.
I simply don't know and I am not interested in knowing at this point. I have my hands full with the criminals who roam our earth wreaking havoc unopposed.
I acknowledge that many people dismiss everything they see at his site because of some things that they do not take seriously. But, that approach is illogical - it's like guilt by association.
Every issue should be judged on its own merits.
Moreover, not everyone takes that approach and every bit of dissemination helps.
In short, I am grateful to everyone who links to this site.
And I strongly believe that truthseekers should try to remain inclusive.
I think DBS offers valuable information, too. But, his continued focus on other people's shortcomings is not helpful.
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"Money" has no value - people do.
Ranger, I'm sorry if it appears that I worship Smith. Not so. I think his language is a little intemperate and he injures people's feelings. On the other hand, he's a full-blooded patriot and a hard working son of a bitch who's busting his hump and taking BIG lumps with jackshit in the way of assistance. Pardon my French.
What distinguishes Smith, Bollyn, and Hufschmidt is that they can do the math when presented with essential facts. Other longer serving truthseekers overlook or minimize them.
Here's a few of them, any 3 of which would have a sensate public up in arms, but excuse me - I plagiarize Admiral Moorer.
WTC sale/ownership/insurance scam
Wanted war in Iraq
Want war with Iran
In charge of 9/11 crime scene
In charge of 9/11 Commission
Filmed, celebrated 9/11 attack
Post 9/11 false flag ops (mexico, etc)
Authored Patriot Act
Ownership of the media
Ownership of Federal Reserve
Ownership of both political parties
PNAC authors
Attacked USS Liberty
Are Smith and I mistaken in believing it is one group AND ONLY ONE GROUP repsonsible for the above?
Is not a pattern discernible?
Is it ok for "truthseekers" to shy away from these facts?
Ranger, if Smith is wrong on the facts please point out a major error. If you can show were he is factually wrong, my mind is open. But you must do better than simply saying "who made Smith the expert." It's like people incessantly saying "Oh boy, that Smith is such a liar" but incapable of pointing out a single significant lie.
Aum
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I'm a bit surprised that you wrote this, oldranger, since you used to respond so positively to my comments.
I didn't say Rense is a CryptoJew or that he knowingly serves Zionists' interests. What I do think is that he inadvertently fits in with their plans.
Look at rense.com. The first thing you'll notice is an ad "refuse to grow old, take this and you'll live forever". What do you think that ad does for the credibility of the site?
Scroll down and read about UFO's. Now, whether people who believe in UFO's are fools or not isn't really the point - the problem is that MOST PEOPLE THINK that people who believe in UFO's are nuts. My concern is, what will the average person think when he or she sees this? What does it do for the credibility of the rense.com website?
Next you'll see an abundance of articles stating that global warming is a hoax. Now, most people don't believe in UFO's, but they DO believe global warming is for real. The evidence is overwhelming. I've been seeing the gradual disappearance of glaciers here in British Columbia, Canada. I've been experiencing very different winters than those I remember from my youth (I'm 62 this year). I know global warming is no hoax.
Then we scroll down and see some excellent and truthful articles about Zionism on rense.com! But if someone saw all the rest, would they approach these articles with an open mind?
I don't understand what you mean about "friends that treat you badly" on this site. I like all the regulars here, such as Qrswave (who I think is amazingly intelligent and resourceful) Quasimodo, The Great Revealer and History Worm. It's good to see some quality posts from newer people such as Lotus. I've learned from all of them, especially Qrswave, and I appreciate having been been enlightened!
Old Ranger, all I really want is for the naive ordinary people everywhere to wake up from their slumbers, and realize what's been going on. I like websites that may help to achieve this end, such as this one and crescentandcross.com.
- Justice Seeker (aka Michael Price)
"Believe it or not I have never met a ‘fool’ who believed in UFOs. I have however, met a few crazy people among many more very intelligent people who do but, then, I couldn’t really ask the crazy ones about it because they were in conversation with God and couldn’t be disturbed."
If you want to make a POINT, I suggest you do it with some sort of semblance regarding MANNERS and RESPECT. I don't knock atheists, I never HAVE. The only atheists I have ever smashed are the ones pretending to know about scripture, you know....the ones called zionists.
It's bad enough, that zionists are out there making fun of people who believe in UFOs - the same ones who are anti-zionists - in that case you're on the WRONG BLOG complaining!
If you want to rip up anyone go to these pathetic blogsites:
StopDestroyingLebanon
Zionist.com
Scotsmanblog.com
Knock yourself out! Hey, my stuff has been deleted many times from some of these blogs because the zionists have power and sway over these sites or they are zionists themselves that direct these sites - whatever. And I don't even mention Rense! Except for stopdestroyinglebanon when someone brought him up and the zionist peakfrean went on a frenzied verbal "UFO" attack. The webmaster there was too much of a WUSS to react.
They would LOVE to tear up the UFO-enamored, zionist-hating crowd.
What? You can't see the true intentions of this incredible blogsite?? It's gotta be one of the best ones I have EVER come across! Never have I seen such tolerance for the hateful zionists that come onto this site - their posts don't get deleted - and yet what a breath of fresh air to post without worrying about tender zionist-israeli toes!
What the hell is your problem Old Ranger!!??
Did I mention God too much for your liking???
Well too GOD Darned bad for you! Don't worry about your little pal Jebus Shmebus. You don't give him/her enough credit! I'm sure the skin of this person is a lot thicker than you give credit for.
Heave Ho, Old Ranger !
I was thinkin' maybe if I jumped right back into your soup,
and made a big splash, while it's still too damned hot,
you might just go ahead and delete your whole blog again,
like you did the last time.
But since you been rode so hard and put up wet for so long,
I figured you might be able to stand just one more of my
lame questions, before you decide, yay or nay, whether to grace us "groupees" any further with your periodic presence.
So here we go again, Old Ranger...
Anybody who ever gave half a cockeyed look at the endless profusion of video footage, public and private, from the World Trade Center on 9-11, couldn't have hardly helped but notice literally dozens and dozens of "UFOs" in that vicinity, at the time of the "attacks".
In my worn out lexicon, that little aneurism always stood for Unidentified Flying Object , to the best of my very limited knowledge. So one might logically deduce that if one sees any particular object flying through the air, whether it be a bird, or a plane or Superman! , and doesn't have the last idea in Hell what the fork it is, it's still just a plain old Unidentified Flying Object, no matter what. Nothing very esoteric about that.
So here's my question. If Jeff Rense is running such a
state of the art UFO website, and continues to suffer from so much maximum exposure, why in the world hasn't he ever done a feature spread on these little doobies ?
http://www.orbwar.com/woolworth/
The Untold Story of the Woolworth Building Incidents on 9-11
( I don't know, maybe he already has, and I didn't notice-
but there's lots more where those came from...)
- and as far as your main question goes, the only answer
I got is some more lame words from another old song:
They smile in your face
All the time they wanna take your place
The Back -Stabbers, yeah...