Oh, Fester, What are we to do with you ?
Didn't you ever learn that curiosity killed the cat ?

Hasn't the story of Toaff taught you anything ? I guess not,
or you wouldn't be rummaging around where you have
no bloody business to begin with.

Judging from your title, you might try your hand at rewriting that old Harold Arlen song about black magic, like this:

-That Old Blood Libel has me in it's spell,
-That Old Blood Libel that I know so well...
-Down and Down I go, and so forth, ad nauseam...

If you had only showed up a little sooner, you could have saved yourself all that trouble. But since you are hell bent
on raising this issue, I suppose you might as well go ahead and find out for yourself, if you must.

Wikipedia won't be much help, now that your own words
are soaked in innocent blood. I hope you find "the spleen"
for this, ( and if you do, you should save it as proof ):

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/607
"Jews Drank Blood" | Wake Up From Your Slumber

I had heard that various military/false flag operations were scheduled on Purim or other Jewish "special" days. My original interest was to draw out from our more learned community members what they knew about such connections.

Quas, still reeling from the link on the organ industry and thanks for sharing the thread from Feb.

Came across the following which I thought was quite well done. A quick excerpt which I think poses an obvious problem all of us, cannibal or not:

"We are asked to believe that time and again, insular communities who discovered they had a child-killer in their midst stubbornly refused to apprehend the alleged Gentile "real killers" and blamed the Jews out of religious bigotry. What possible interest could any community, medieval or otherwise, have in lynching an innocent scapegoat and allowing a real killer of children to go free? Why would everyone in Trier or Lincoln or Spoleto or Kiev go along with such a miscarriage of justice when doing so put other children at risk? Why (so far as we know) did the child-killings cease once the Jews had been punished and (usually) driven from the community?"

Why I Believe In Jewish Ritual Murder
From: nswpp@ix.netcom.com(NSWPP)
Date: 1997/09/29
Newsgroups: triangle.politics,alt.nswpp,alt.politics.white-power,alt.skinheads. WHY I BELIEVE IN JEWISH RITUAL MURDER

Yes, I do believe that the Jews have practiced ritual murder as part of their religious ceremonies in the past, and that they almost certainly do so today, with the following qualifiers:

*I do not believe this practice is or ever has been widespread, but has always been restricted to a small number of the most hard-core rabbis and Jewish cabalistic mystic sects;

*I am perfectly willing to accept the likelihood that individual Jews down through history have been falsely accused of this practice, just as I believe that on the other hand it has often been carried out undetected and/or unpunished. The Beiliss case in 1913 Russia is a good case in point: Mendel Beiliss himself was probably innocent of the actual commission of murder although he may have been peripherally involved in covering up the act on the part of his co-religionists;

*I am willing to accept that the overwhelming majority of Jews are unaware that the "blood libel" has at least a partial grounding in fact and genuinely believe it to be a slander, just as most Jews probably believe that the Holocaust occurred more or less as advertised despite mounting evidence to the contrary.

My belief in the preceding is based on two foundations:

extensive study of the historical, cultural, and religious aspects of Judaism, and my own personal observation, dealings, and experience with the Jews as individual people over a period of 25 years. I don't want this e-mail to get too prolix, since this isn't really my area of enthusiasm---the Jews' public and political crimes are far worse than their private religious ones---but briefly summarized:

1. There is an immense amount of anecdotal and circumstantial evidence that these sacrificial homicides took place in the past, back in times when concealment was harder and Aryans far more aware and wary of the Jew than they are today.

It is significant that ever since the days of Babylon, a period of almost four thousand years, this accusation (like many others) has been leveled against the Jews EVERYWHERE THEY HAVE EVER RESIDED in the world. Time and again down through the ages the Jews have been caught literally red-handed, in some cases toting the dead body of the child whose blood they have drained away to dispose of it in sacks or wagons, sometimes with the corpse being found in the synagogue cellars, etc.

The Jews' response to this is "ve is beink poisecute!" They maintain that down through forty centuries of history, there has been a mammoth conspiracy to frame them for ritual murder. According to this theory, in places as far apart as Cochin China, medieval Germany, 1913 Kiev and 1970 Montreal, and among peoples as diverse as knightly Crusaders, Turkish sultans, twelfth-century Yorkshire Saxons, Argentinians, Cossacks, British historians, Renaissance Italian popes, assorted saints and sinners, the burgomeisters of Prague, and modern-day Arabs, there exists one big long, continuous plot periodically to murder small children, drain them of blood, and plant the bodies on Jewish premises or in Jewish vehicles, etc.

That's one hell of a conspiracy!

There are other similar complaints always leveled against the Jews wherever and whenever they have gone---economic trickery and despoliation, refusal to assimilate, disloyalty to their host country, arrogant behavior and hatred against their hosts, etc. The Jewish response is always the same---for four thousand years, everybody in the world has been engaged in a collossal conspiracy to "get" them. Nowadays most people believe that, not suprising in view of the Jewish control of the media of communications which has existed in varying strengths in the Western world since the late nineteenth century. But in the old days it didn't wash.

Our medieval ancestors were not fools. They lived with the Jews side by side in close-packed urban communities, very small by modern standards, and knew the Jews far more intimately than we do today. Just like people today, they cared about their children and when a child was slain the entire community interested itself not only for purposes of revenge, but to ensure the safety of everyone's kids. We are asked to believe that time and again, insular communities who discovered they had a child-killer in their midst stubbornly refused to apprehend the alleged Gentile "real killers" and blamed the Jews out of religious bigotry. What possible interest could any community, medieval or otherwise, have in lynching an innocent scapegoat and allowing a real killer of children to go free? Why would everyone in Trier or Lincoln or Spoleto or Kiev go along with such a miscarriage of justice when doing so put other children at risk? Why (so far as we know) did the child-killings cease once the Jews had been punished and (usually) driven from the community?

2. The Jewish religion allows for and practices animal sacrifice, per the Old Testament or Torah as they call it, although these customs have long been held in abeyance and in theory apply only to the Temple in Jerusalem. There is an entire sect of "Kohanim" in Israel who practice and train successive generations of rabbis in the techniques of sacrifice in anticipation of the day when Israel succeeds in wresting the Al Aqsa mosque away from the Muslims who have held it for 1400 years and rebuilds the Temple. The Talmud teaches that non-Jews are *goyim*, beasts without souls. To a religious Jew there is no difference between a German or an American or an African and a cow or a horse or a fish; all lesser non-Jewish forms of life, humanoid or otherwise, were put here by God to serve and pleasure the Jew. When the Jews claim that they do not practice "human" sacrifice they are by their own weird lights telling the truth. They do not consider Gentiles to be human.

3. For the past 25 years I have been in a unique position to observe Jewish behavior and the Jewish character at first hand, since being a National Socialist they don't bother to keep their usual variety of masks on with me and they let all that Talmudic hatred hang out. Anyone who has ever done night duty in a National Socialist headquarters and lifted the telephone for call after call, hour after hour, to hear the crazed screaming Brooklynese of a Jew driven mad by hatred, spewing a string of profanity and terms of excrement, raving like some demented parrot or monkey, totally out of all human control---thus begins wisdom. Anyone who wants to understand the true nature of this "Light Unto The Nations" need only oppose them in public, and he will soon find out what utterly loathsome beings the Jews are, what vicious and contemptible cowards they are, what potentially deadly serpents they are.

But don't take my word for it. Check out the Nizkor playgroups and see for yourself. See a Revisionist post a calm, serious, well-researched comment on some aspect of the Holocaust and then see the literally HUNDREDS of hysterical, malicious, hateful, filthy and abusive posts which follow from the little cadre of about two dozen kikes and kike wannabes who go berserk attacking, vilifying, insulting, and threatening anyone who dares to contradict the self-proclaimed Chosen People of God.

I won't belabor this further, but I will close with two points:

First off, the Jewish people are entirely capable of practicing ritual murder, and there is an immense amount of historical evidence that they did so. I cannot imagine why they would stop now in this day and age, when they have the power to conceal their misdeeds and the captive media falsely to portray them as victims. How many of those little children you see on milk cartons have fallen victim to the knives of the rabbis and lie buried in some remote wasteland or were ground up into dog food in some Jewish-owned processing plant? I am convinced that at least some of them met that fate.

Secondly, the Jews deserve everything that has happened to them in the past and everything that is coming to them in the future, especially when the Palestinians get their state as a toehold and America finally runs out of money and the New Yahk-Tel Aviv lifeline collapses. I do not question that innocent individuals of Jewish extraction have suffered down through the ages for crimes which they as individuals did not commit---but my people and all the peoples of the world have suffered far more at the hands of the Chosen Ones.

The Jews are great survivors, got to give them that. Like rats and cockroaches, and like rats and cockroaches I doubt we'll ever get rid of them entirely. But the world is a much smaller place now, global village and all that. It used to be they could just move on to the next "Goldeneh Medina" when they wore out their welcome somewhere else---but they can't to that any more. Everybody knows about them now, from Uganda to Honolulu, from Rome to Regina. They've run out of trap doors to dodge through and run out of places to run and hide. Their much-vaunted Israel is going to end up nothing but a death trap.

There is a reckoning coming, a reckoning between humanity and the Jewish people which will cause the very heavens to darken and the very devils in hell to hide their faces in shock and terror. You might say we owe them a Holocaust. We've been paying their bill for fifty years, and at some point we're finally going to get what we've paid for.

And when that day comes, who knows? Even I might pity them.....

Naaaaah! -Winston Smith
www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/rinn.html

My Jewish college buddy once explained that the Holocaust weeded out the weak and stupid Jews leaving the smart ones. But hey now, if the Holler is a LIE, then we don't need to rely on our smart Jewish media pundits to tell us the truth no more, right? Help yer Uncle Fester out woancha?

"Matzo - Myth or Reality?"
Orakuly (Oracles) Magazine
No. 6
October 7th - 25, 1999

The preparation of matzo, that terrible custom of the Jewish followers of the cabala over the course of centuries, has stunned the entire world. The barbaric claws of the matzo have spread throughout Europe and Russia, the Caucasus and the Balkans.

It is necessary to point out that this terrible rite is not in keeping with the entire Jewish people, but exists only among the followers of the Hasidic sect, which is the most fanatic and persistent sect in Judaism. They [Hasidic Jews] accept only the Talmud and the books of the Rabbis. In fact, they repudiate the entire Old Testament. Their secrets and certain customs are unknown even to members of the sect itself, as these are kept by rabbis. The Hasidic sect has existed since the times of the divine crucifixion and still continues to this day. Over the course of 20 centuries, fanatical followers of cabala have killed Christian children through horrific methods of torture and used their blood for wizardry and various mystical-religious ends.

An enormous number of crimes and harrowing evil deeds committed by Hasidic Jews are partially acknowledged historically and legally. Today no one can argue that anywhere Jews have lived in large numbers, the corpses of Christian children have been found periodically with the markings of horrific wounds and tortures. History has preserved an enormous number of these terrible episodes: the inhumane torture of children by the Hasidic Jews.

In 1115, close to the city of Magdeburg, the day before Passover, Hasidic Jews tortured five little boys, used their blood for satanic rituals and baked from them the Passover bread. The atrocities of the Jews did not go unpunished. After a two-year investigation, the Holy Church found the evil doers and burned them at the stake after torture.

In 1350 in Normandy, over the course of several years, the Hasidic Jews made victims of up to 20 small children. For some time, the knights of the Templer Order- some of whom were in hiding- were blamed for committing the crime. But the truth was soon revealed when, undergoing torture, Hasidic Jews confessed to the crime. Only through the immediate intervention of Franciscan monks were the Jewish children saved and then baptized by the Church. Twelve villages became victims of the Inquisition; hundreds of Hasidic Jews had their skin ripped off and the leaders of the sect were stoned, their corpses strewn across accursed fields.

A fairly large number of examples of evil Hasidic acts was revealed also in England. In 1260, the state exposed the Hasidic sect and severely punished its members.

In 1343, Norwegian Bishop Magnus El forced the authorities of Oslo to burn twenty Hasidic settlements as they were blamed for their cabala activities.

In the 15th century in Hungary, the mutilated corpses of children were often found that terrified people. In 1460, the Hungarian Feudal Lord Miklosh Chek gauged out the eyes of 55 Hasidic Jews and expelled them from the country for their various crimes.

Alongside Catholic Europe the Eastern Orthodox countries also suffered. Even in Byzantine drawings of the early era there are references to matzo and the Hasidic Jews.

Archbishop Frigian Bartholomew I, after a zealous ten-year investigation, discovered the lair of the cabalists, where monks found the skeletons of hundreds of innocent children. After undergoing torture, the Hasidic Jews confessed to the crime. Blaming them for Talmudic activities in 943, Father Zocius subjected hundreds of Jews to torture and demanded from the Emperor their expulsion from the kingdom. Across the centuries, a large number of Jews have become victims of the Christians' hatred because of the crimes of the Hasidic Jews.

In 19th century Russia, an abundance of data on the fanaticism of the Jews has been recorded. The blood of hundreds of innocent children was spilt in the Minsk, Vitebsk, Novgorod, Ryazan, Moscow, and Yaroslavl guberniia (regions). The tsarist authorities discovered a multiplicity of Hasidic sects and destroyed them by expulsion. Among the communal evil acts committed, one tragedy, which occurred in 1829, stands out in its cruelty and brutality, when 12 children were killed during Passover. Later, the police found the bodies, split in two by gigantic needles, which after torture were thrown by the Hasidic Jews into a ravine.

One well-known Jewish doctor attending a special conference devoted to this terrible phenomenon called matzo the national disease and a disgraceful blemish on the history of the Jewish people. Several Jewish rabbis have severely rebuked the followers of the Hasidic sect and condemned them to exile.

Translated from Georgian to Russian by Ariel Levine, UCSJ Caucasus-American Bureau Director
Translated from the Russian to English by Steve Swerdlow

www.fsumonitor.com/stories/121099geor.shtml

The hasidic movement only began in 18th century Poland so it's a little difficult to give credence to the post that accuses hasidim of crimes committed before their existence. Maybe it's a bad translation but it calls the entire post into question.

Likewise, scholars generally date kabalah to the 12th century.

Tal, der Wiki did say that the Hasids dated to the 18th century as you say. Maybe the author got that wrong, but with Prof. Toaff's work in the mix, I don't see that as enough of a reason to dismiss tthis staggeringly depraved little vein.

Are you perchance relying on der Wikipeida for the facts in question? Maybe, if the facts are so horrific, there is reason for us to doubt what the "experts" say regarding the Hasids, no?

I grew up Oswald, Osama, and a whole lotta other horseshit shoveled steadily and with savoir-faire by the most respectably dressed up sources. Peace.

Hey Uncle Fester !
I thought I already told you Wikipedia wouldn't be much help, now that your own words are soaked in innocent blood,
didn't I ? But you just can't help yourself, now can you ?

Quas, yes i bleeve you did, but know you that i ain't as green as you suspect. i might dip into da Wiki for a quickie now and then, but i'm still clean enough for the marriage bed of many a rabbied dog.

Did Tal lie with the Wiki also? How many other do and how frequently? If someone can offer something with a bit more historical weight then maybe we begin to prove the Wiki a whore.

It seems to yer Uncle Fester that Wiki's claim that the Hasids started after Prof. Toaff's period of Medieval Christian child butchering is likely technically true. The psychopaths who were engaged in the blood drinking are their under one hat or another. Might be mistaken, but it'll take more than the slatternly Wiki to dissuade your bald headed friend.

Fester: you're new to our forum, please go back visit some of this blogsite's past months' posts and have a look at our discussions.
You sound like a real Jew-hater, indiscriminately so. You call yourself a National Socialist, so a Nazi of history, and claim to have done night duty at the National Socialist 'party' (?) headquarters. Beware of spreading Jew-hate in this forum, we are critics of the judaised Khazars but (at least I) not indiscriminate 'anti-Semites'. I can understand the origin of your animosity, for the 'steppe wolves' are indeed just that most of the time: wolves (in sheep's skins). But we beg you and others like you to be rational and not emotional. I see from your writings you are unaware of the difference between the Oriental Jews (True Jews) and the judaised Khazars, or Ashkenazi Jews, who are in fact Turko-Mongols (Turanians) and form about 90% of world Jewry. These Turanians are impostors to the jewish faith and sneaky invaders of all the countries of the world, takers of Palestine in the name of the ancient religion they have only hijacked. You should inform yourself of such important difference between True and Fake Jews and reason from that point onwards.
Now on to the vivid issue of the blood libel. You raise a hell of an accusation here, that the ritual murder of goy children has been/is a constant practice of the Hasidic Jews in their history, making the birth of the Hasidim movement date from the biblical times or so. You qualified your accusation shoving it to the doorstep of some of these cabbalist, mystic Hasidic Jews, but you ought to substanciate your claims with some solid evidence and references (not just Internet Jew-hate sites, please).
The Hasidic Jewish movement does indeed stem from the judaised Khazars' diaspora in Poland and was founded in 1698. I offer you a reasonably bona-fide Internet link here, but my books (in particular H. Graetz) confirm the polish/ashkenazi origins. Similarly, the cabbalist sect of the Sabbateans stems from the judaised Khazars' diaspora in Turkey, then in Eastern Europe (home of the Ashkenazis till the 3rd partition of Poland), etc.
Concluding, about Prof. Toaff's book, for those of you who can read Italian, the book was available in Internet at this site, but the author requested even those chapters available on-line to be withdrawn from view. My conclusion is that, evidently, Ariel Toaff hit on a very dangerous truth. So that is what khazar censorship has achieved for itself: we are ALL now convinced that ritual murder was/is a reality!

Cheers, history_worm

Worm, I didn't author the "WHY I BELIEVE IN JEWISH RITUAL MURDER" in screed. The author's nom de guerre is Winston Smith.

I thought his point that it is nonsensical to think that communities would let ritual murderers go free in order to scapegoat Jews was worth sharing. His other point, that these events happened whereever these communities settled (the name of the sect still not clear) was also important for those unfamiliar with the topic.

I ain't no Jew-hater, but please let me know where you found evidence of such sentiment in anything I, not Winston Smith, said.

I am aware of the Khazar angle. Many thanks for the links and the info on the Turanian stuff. Quas pointed me to a previous blood libel discussion but I'll search and see if there's more I missed. Peaces.

"Worm, I didn't author the "WHY I BELIEVE IN JEWISH RITUAL MURDER" in screed. The author's nom de guerre is Winston Smith."
Oh, ... sorry Fester, I just read the comments above too quickly. So, let me warn everybody against Jew-hate material like what this Wiston Smith has written, there are some discrediting excesses in his language. We must remain cool and rational in our quest against the New Tartar Yoke.
Peace and cheers everyone,

history_worm

So let me finally get this straight, History Worm.

"Jew Hate" ( depending on what, or who, you call a "Jew" )
is to be shunned at all costs.

But "Khazar", or "Turanic" Hate is to be tolerated, if not encouraged, due to the effect of a "New Turanian Yoke".

I think it's way past time that some particular "people"
in this funky world start figuring out what they really are
to begin with, and start representing "themselves" as such, before they get their collective teeth shoved down their throats by mistake, whether or not they bloody well deserve it.

And let all your Holy Inquisitorial Spanish "Jews" go
back to Queen Isabella, if she would ever have them.

And speaking of "Jew Hate", and "Blood Libel", and 9-11
all day, this little dainty should be of some interest,
by tying them all together quite nicely:

http://www.iamthewitness.com/Bollyn-blood-libel.html
Bollyn, Blood Libel

Quas, I don't go for Jew Hate as such (hating Jews just because they're Jews) nor for Turanian Hate. All I'm saying is that 90% of the Jews are of Turanic descent and that they are particularly evil-doing because of that and of their combined Kok-Turk/Khazar/Ashkenazi history. Their ferocity derives from their infancy in the steppes and has only been made worse by the downfall of Khazaria, at the turn of the XI Century, and by the adoption of Talmudic Judaism. I'm 100% convinced of that. So, before hating them, we must understand their background. You say now rightly, THEY THEMSELVES must come to terms with their own true origins and background. I'm 100% convinced of that too. Hating them serves just nothing, we must debunk them, fight them with their own weapons. Only by spreading our knowledge and debunking Khazar-controlled disinformation all the time shall we prevail - perhaps - in reawakening the Goyim and incite them to free themselves from the New Tartar (Turanic) Yoke.

Cheers, history_worm

A few more snippets on That Old Blood Libel.

Anyone know of Sir Richard F. Burton and his 1850 treatise 'Human Sacrifice Among The Sephardine Jews'?